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 2012-10-11 10:45 PM in reply to: #4450913 |
Pro  9391     Omaha, NE |  Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight?morey000 - 2012-10-11 10:38 PM I agree Biden did well and on substance likely won the debate. I just think his delivery ruined the message. I watched a couple of the "undecided" panels and they were pretty overwhelming in favor of Ryan simply because of joes rudeness.Obama looked like he didn't want to be debating Romney in the first place. Biden looked like he never wanted his debate with Ryan to end. Ryan may have give conservatives what they wanted to hear, but Biden gave America what they wanted to hear. If you thought this debate was a draw... you missed the total eviseration of a high school debate kid by his seasoned principal. It demonstrated the difference between a man who is justifiably a heartbeat away from the presidency...and a plebe. Obama couldn't have expected anything more from his #2, and it's about time, as Obama has had to cover for Joe many times. This time, it was the other way around. Looking forward to next week, and seeing if the president can earn his right for another 4 years of not having to fly commercial. Ultimately it won't matter and its all up to the big dogs in the next two debates. |
| 2012-10-11 10:47 PM in reply to: #4450916 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? ChineseDemocracy - 2012-10-11 10:43 PM I totally agree. I try to think how both sides would respond to things, but its hard. tuwood - 2012-10-11 11:36 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-10-11 10:15 PM I think he gave the base what they wanted but im not sure how well it will play in the middle. Takeaway the rudeness I think Joe won, throw in the rudeness Andi think tie at best or even a slight ryan win.I also think Joe stepped in it with Libya directly contradicting the state department.Delivery-wise, Biden was excellent. I loved the fire in the belly! He didn't let Ryan get away with shenanigans...he called him out on the mullarkey. Loved it! Joe represented Delaware well tonight. btw, the moderator was fantastic. Honestly, it's funny how subjective rating debate performances can be. I am psyched to see the next debate. I'll leave it at that.  |
| 2012-10-11 10:51 PM in reply to: #4450913 |
Elite 4547 | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? morey000 - 2012-10-11 11:38 PM Obama looked like he didn't want to be debating Romney in the first place. Biden looked like he never wanted his debate with Ryan to end. Ryan may have give conservatives what they wanted to hear, but Biden gave America what they wanted to hear. If you thought this debate was a draw... you missed the total eviseration of a high school debate kid by his seasoned principal. It demonstrated the difference between a man who is justifiably a heartbeat away from the presidency...and a plebe. Obama couldn't have expected anything more from his #2, and it's about time, as Obama has had to cover for Joe many times. This time, it was the other way around. Looking forward to next week, and seeing if the president can earn his right for another 4 years of not having to fly commercial. awesome post. Joe was fantastic. Ryan's request letters for stimulus money? Priceless. Someone's got to remind him you ask for those things in person, off the record. one more thought, "Mr. Ryan, if you are elected, what is something special that you can bring to the Office?" "...smokin' fast, sub 3 hour marathon times." ..."and Mr. Vice President?" "babes in biker bars!" |
| 2012-10-11 11:20 PM in reply to: #4450913 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? morey000 - 2012-10-11 10:38 PM CNN snap poll as to who won:Obama looked like he didn't want to be debating Romney in the first place. Biden looked like he never wanted his debate with Ryan to end. Ryan may have give conservatives what they wanted to hear, but Biden gave America what they wanted to hear. If you thought this debate was a draw... you missed the total eviseration of a high school debate kid by his seasoned principal. It demonstrated the difference between a man who is justifiably a heartbeat away from the presidency...and a plebe. Obama couldn't have expected anything more from his #2, and it's about time, as Obama has had to cover for Joe many times. This time, it was the other way around. Looking forward to next week, and seeing if the president can earn his right for another 4 years of not having to fly commercial. Ryan 48% Biden 44% |
| 2012-10-12 12:13 AM in reply to: #4449875 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? I just got around to watching it.....geez.....does Biden have 5-hour energy drinks on an IV drip? |
| 2012-10-12 1:02 AM in reply to: #4450912 |
Expert 1240 Columbia, MO | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? tuwood - 2012-10-11 10:36 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-10-11 10:15 PM I think he gave the base what they wanted but im not sure how well it will play in the middle. Takeaway the rudeness I think Joe won, throw in the rudeness Andi think tie at best or even a slight ryan win.I also think Joe stepped in it with Libya directly contradicting the state department.Delivery-wise, Biden was excellent. I loved the fire in the belly! He didn't let Ryan get away with shenanigans...he called him out on the mullarkey. Loved it! Joe represented Delaware well tonight. btw, the moderator was fantastic.
I think Biden opened up a can of worms by saying "I say what I mean" That is just waiting to be a GOP ad... I say what I mean We are going to raise taxes by 5 trillion I say what I mean Hey the middle class has been buried for 4 years....
It goes on and on |
| 2012-10-12 6:31 AM in reply to: #4450917 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? GomesBolt - 2012-10-11 11:43 PM
i agree so much with these comments. i was really pleased with the answer of "i'm a catholic and i'm personally pro-life but i believe citizens of states should vote on this." it's a nice moderate, almost libertarian tack. i will not take away your right to abortion but i will never exercise it. also...i think joe did a lot to make up for obama's weak performance and i think that's why he was so aggressive. i counted 3 times of bagging on the 47% comment. but ryan was pretty strong as well. they both seemed more like 'politicians' than the pres candidates did. interesting commentary on "who won" after they wrapped the debate up - while party voters will be pleased with each of their candidates and affirm their vote, the undecideds tend to vote on the pres so the vp debate has little influence in the overall election. regardless, it was nice to see them take the stage against each other. i was well entertained. |
| 2012-10-12 7:23 AM in reply to: #4449875 |
Expert 1186 North Cackalacky | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? |
| 2012-10-12 7:26 AM in reply to: #4450892 |
| New user 900 , | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? ChineseDemocracy - 2012-10-11 10:15 PM Delivery-wise, Biden was excellent. I loved the fire in the belly! He didn't let Ryan get away with shenanigans...he called him out on the mullarkey. Loved it! Joe represented Delaware well tonight. btw, the moderator was fantastic.
I've never been to Delaware. Is everyone there that rude? |
| 2012-10-12 7:57 AM in reply to: #4451052 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? ScudRunner - 2012-10-12 8:23 AM Poll: By Wide Margin, Democrats want Biden in all Remaining Debates It's official, the New Yorker has become The Onion... |
| 2012-10-12 8:02 AM in reply to: #4451053 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? NXS - 2012-10-12 8:26 AM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-10-11 10:15 PM Delivery-wise, Biden was excellent. I loved the fire in the belly! He didn't let Ryan get away with shenanigans...he called him out on the mullarkey. Loved it! Joe represented Delaware well tonight. btw, the moderator was fantastic.
I've never been to Delaware. Is everyone there that rude?
I thought this ad would come-out today. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/11/rnc_web_ad_laughing_at_the_issues.html How anyone can look at that and not describe it as unprofessional, I have no idea. And then there's this: <headslap> Edited by GomesBolt 2012-10-12 8:04 AM |
| 2012-10-12 9:13 AM in reply to: #4449875 |
Extreme Veteran 441 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? I think both candidates accomplished what they needed to. The Democrat base firmly believes that everything the Republican candidates say is a lie and thier positions deserve derision. The Republican base feels the same way about the Democrat candidates. None of them will be swayed in the least bit by any debates. What Biden needed to do was to fire up a base that had become somewhat demoralized by the first debate and who thought that Obama had been far too "nice". He doesn't do that by being thoughtful and engaging. He does that by going on the attack and projecting himself the way that the majority of the base would want him to. And that's exactly what he did. And the "reviews" from liberal sources bear that out. Now that Biden has shored up the enthusiasm concern for the base the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. What Ryan needed to do was to show that he was not a monster who doesn't care about grandma, as he has been portrayed by the Democrats. He does that by staying calm in the face of attacks and states his case in a firm but respectful manner. Based on the "reviews" by the major news organizations he accomplished that. Now the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. In the current political climate there are very few truly undecided voters. So, without massive momentum for a candidate (Obama '08), the election effectively comes down to turnout. With Romney threatening to generate significant momentum and potentially deteriorating turnout of the Democrat base, it was much more important for Biden to do what he needed to do than for Ryan. So, although each candidate accomplished his goal at the debate, the greater impact overall has to go to the Democrats. It will be interesting to see how the next Presidential debate will go. One thing that I think most pundits have overlooked is that with Biden being overly aggressive, and thereby firing up the base, Obama can focus on being "presidential" rather than risking coming across as just being angry. |
| 2012-10-12 9:18 AM in reply to: #4451181 |
Expert 1186 North Cackalacky | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? zaichikmiller - 2012-10-12 10:13 AM I think both candidates accomplished what they needed to. The Democrat base firmly believes that everything the Republican candidates say is a lie and thier positions deserve derision. The Republican base feels the same way about the Democrat candidates. None of them will be swayed in the least bit by any debates. What Biden needed to do was to fire up a base that had become somewhat demoralized by the first debate and who thought that Obama had been far too "nice". He doesn't do that by being thoughtful and engaging. He does that by going on the attack and projecting himself the way that the majority of the base would want him to. And that's exactly what he did. And the "reviews" from liberal sources bear that out. Now that Biden has shored up the enthusiasm concern for the base the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. What Ryan needed to do was to show that he was not a monster who doesn't care about grandma, as he has been portrayed by the Democrats. He does that by staying calm in the face of attacks and states his case in a firm but respectful manner. Based on the "reviews" by the major news organizations he accomplished that. Now the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. In the current political climate there are very few truly undecided voters. So, without massive momentum for a candidate (Obama '08), the election effectively comes down to turnout. With Romney threatening to generate significant momentum and potentially deteriorating turnout of the Democrat base, it was much more important for Biden to do what he needed to do than for Ryan. So, although each candidate accomplished his goal at the debate, the greater impact overall has to go to the Democrats. It will be interesting to see how the next Presidential debate will go. One thing that I think most pundits have overlooked is that with Biden being overly aggressive, and thereby firing up the base, Obama can focus on being "presidential" rather than risking coming across as just being angry. I don't know you, so please take this with all due respect: you are clearly far too reasonable to post in a political thread here. Stop it. |
| 2012-10-12 9:28 AM in reply to: #4451187 |
Extreme Veteran 441 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? ScudRunner - 2012-10-12 10:18 AM zaichikmiller - 2012-10-12 10:13 AM I think both candidates accomplished what they needed to. The Democrat base firmly believes that everything the Republican candidates say is a lie and thier positions deserve derision. The Republican base feels the same way about the Democrat candidates. None of them will be swayed in the least bit by any debates. What Biden needed to do was to fire up a base that had become somewhat demoralized by the first debate and who thought that Obama had been far too "nice". He doesn't do that by being thoughtful and engaging. He does that by going on the attack and projecting himself the way that the majority of the base would want him to. And that's exactly what he did. And the "reviews" from liberal sources bear that out. Now that Biden has shored up the enthusiasm concern for the base the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. What Ryan needed to do was to show that he was not a monster who doesn't care about grandma, as he has been portrayed by the Democrats. He does that by staying calm in the face of attacks and states his case in a firm but respectful manner. Based on the "reviews" by the major news organizations he accomplished that. Now the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. In the current political climate there are very few truly undecided voters. So, without massive momentum for a candidate (Obama '08), the election effectively comes down to turnout. With Romney threatening to generate significant momentum and potentially deteriorating turnout of the Democrat base, it was much more important for Biden to do what he needed to do than for Ryan. So, although each candidate accomplished his goal at the debate, the greater impact overall has to go to the Democrats. It will be interesting to see how the next Presidential debate will go. One thing that I think most pundits have overlooked is that with Biden being overly aggressive, and thereby firing up the base, Obama can focus on being "presidential" rather than risking coming across as just being angry. I don't know you, so please take this with all due respect: you are clearly far too reasonable to post in a political thread here. Stop it. I can be calm and reasonable about politics. Sports, on the other hand..... |
| 2012-10-12 9:50 AM in reply to: #4451187 |
Expert 1310 Alabama | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? ScudRunner - 2012-10-12 9:18 AM zaichikmiller - 2012-10-12 10:13 AM I think both candidates accomplished what they needed to. The Democrat base firmly believes that everything the Republican candidates say is a lie and thier positions deserve derision. The Republican base feels the same way about the Democrat candidates. None of them will be swayed in the least bit by any debates. What Biden needed to do was to fire up a base that had become somewhat demoralized by the first debate and who thought that Obama had been far too "nice". He doesn't do that by being thoughtful and engaging. He does that by going on the attack and projecting himself the way that the majority of the base would want him to. And that's exactly what he did. And the "reviews" from liberal sources bear that out. Now that Biden has shored up the enthusiasm concern for the base the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. What Ryan needed to do was to show that he was not a monster who doesn't care about grandma, as he has been portrayed by the Democrats. He does that by staying calm in the face of attacks and states his case in a firm but respectful manner. Based on the "reviews" by the major news organizations he accomplished that. Now the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. In the current political climate there are very few truly undecided voters. So, without massive momentum for a candidate (Obama '08), the election effectively comes down to turnout. With Romney threatening to generate significant momentum and potentially deteriorating turnout of the Democrat base, it was much more important for Biden to do what he needed to do than for Ryan. So, although each candidate accomplished his goal at the debate, the greater impact overall has to go to the Democrats. It will be interesting to see how the next Presidential debate will go. One thing that I think most pundits have overlooked is that with Biden being overly aggressive, and thereby firing up the base, Obama can focus on being "presidential" rather than risking coming across as just being angry. I don't know you, so please take this with all due respect: you are clearly far too reasonable to post in a political thread here. Stop it. I was thinking the same thing. |
| 2012-10-12 10:09 AM in reply to: #4451230 |
Extreme Veteran 516 | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? pilotzs - 2012-10-12 8:50 AM ScudRunner - 2012-10-12 9:18 AM zaichikmiller - 2012-10-12 10:13 AM I think both candidates accomplished what they needed to. The Democrat base firmly believes that everything the Republican candidates say is a lie and thier positions deserve derision. The Republican base feels the same way about the Democrat candidates. None of them will be swayed in the least bit by any debates. What Biden needed to do was to fire up a base that had become somewhat demoralized by the first debate and who thought that Obama had been far too "nice". He doesn't do that by being thoughtful and engaging. He does that by going on the attack and projecting himself the way that the majority of the base would want him to. And that's exactly what he did. And the "reviews" from liberal sources bear that out. Now that Biden has shored up the enthusiasm concern for the base the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. What Ryan needed to do was to show that he was not a monster who doesn't care about grandma, as he has been portrayed by the Democrats. He does that by staying calm in the face of attacks and states his case in a firm but respectful manner. Based on the "reviews" by the major news organizations he accomplished that. Now the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. In the current political climate there are very few truly undecided voters. So, without massive momentum for a candidate (Obama '08), the election effectively comes down to turnout. With Romney threatening to generate significant momentum and potentially deteriorating turnout of the Democrat base, it was much more important for Biden to do what he needed to do than for Ryan. So, although each candidate accomplished his goal at the debate, the greater impact overall has to go to the Democrats. It will be interesting to see how the next Presidential debate will go. One thing that I think most pundits have overlooked is that with Biden being overly aggressive, and thereby firing up the base, Obama can focus on being "presidential" rather than risking coming across as just being angry. I don't know you, so please take this with all due respect: you are clearly far too reasonable to post in a political thread here. Stop it. I was thinking the same thing. Lol, yeah, really, what was he thinking!! |
| 2012-10-12 10:39 AM in reply to: #4451268 |
Expert 2180 Boise, Idaho | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? PatsyID - 2012-10-12 9:09 AM pilotzs - 2012-10-12 8:50 AM ScudRunner - 2012-10-12 9:18 AM zaichikmiller - 2012-10-12 10:13 AM I think both candidates accomplished what they needed to. The Democrat base firmly believes that everything the Republican candidates say is a lie and thier positions deserve derision. The Republican base feels the same way about the Democrat candidates. None of them will be swayed in the least bit by any debates. What Biden needed to do was to fire up a base that had become somewhat demoralized by the first debate and who thought that Obama had been far too "nice". He doesn't do that by being thoughtful and engaging. He does that by going on the attack and projecting himself the way that the majority of the base would want him to. And that's exactly what he did. And the "reviews" from liberal sources bear that out. Now that Biden has shored up the enthusiasm concern for the base the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. What Ryan needed to do was to show that he was not a monster who doesn't care about grandma, as he has been portrayed by the Democrats. He does that by staying calm in the face of attacks and states his case in a firm but respectful manner. Based on the "reviews" by the major news organizations he accomplished that. Now the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. In the current political climate there are very few truly undecided voters. So, without massive momentum for a candidate (Obama '08), the election effectively comes down to turnout. With Romney threatening to generate significant momentum and potentially deteriorating turnout of the Democrat base, it was much more important for Biden to do what he needed to do than for Ryan. So, although each candidate accomplished his goal at the debate, the greater impact overall has to go to the Democrats. It will be interesting to see how the next Presidential debate will go. One thing that I think most pundits have overlooked is that with Biden being overly aggressive, and thereby firing up the base, Obama can focus on being "presidential" rather than risking coming across as just being angry. I don't know you, so please take this with all due respect: you are clearly far too reasonable to post in a political thread here. Stop it. I was thinking the same thing. Lol, yeah, really, what was he thinking!! Gee, Thanks a bunch. You single-handedly killed a good thread with reason and political smarts. I'm gonna go TANing. |
| 2012-10-12 10:56 AM in reply to: #4450913 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? morey000 - 2012-10-11 9:38 PM Obama looked like he didn't want to be debating Romney in the first place. Biden looked like he never wanted his debate with Ryan to end. Ryan may have give conservatives what they wanted to hear, but Biden gave America what they wanted to hear. If you thought this debate was a draw... you missed the total eviseration of a high school debate kid by his seasoned principal. It demonstrated the difference between a man who is justifiably a heartbeat away from the presidency...and a plebe. Obama couldn't have expected anything more from his #2, and it's about time, as Obama has had to cover for Joe many times. This time, it was the other way around. Looking forward to next week, and seeing if the president can earn his right for another 4 years of not having to fly commercial. And you know what's even worse than that.... If Obama is that weak against Romney, and Biden is so strong against a "school kid".... then it can be even more reason to say Obama does not belong in the driver seat for 4 more years. I mean he was out done by his rival, and he was out done by his VP.... Hummmm |
| 2012-10-12 11:06 AM in reply to: #4451338 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? jeffnboise - 2012-10-12 9:39 AM PatsyID - 2012-10-12 9:09 AM pilotzs - 2012-10-12 8:50 AM ScudRunner - 2012-10-12 9:18 AM zaichikmiller - 2012-10-12 10:13 AM I think both candidates accomplished what they needed to. The Democrat base firmly believes that everything the Republican candidates say is a lie and thier positions deserve derision. The Republican base feels the same way about the Democrat candidates. None of them will be swayed in the least bit by any debates. What Biden needed to do was to fire up a base that had become somewhat demoralized by the first debate and who thought that Obama had been far too "nice". He doesn't do that by being thoughtful and engaging. He does that by going on the attack and projecting himself the way that the majority of the base would want him to. And that's exactly what he did. And the "reviews" from liberal sources bear that out. Now that Biden has shored up the enthusiasm concern for the base the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. What Ryan needed to do was to show that he was not a monster who doesn't care about grandma, as he has been portrayed by the Democrats. He does that by staying calm in the face of attacks and states his case in a firm but respectful manner. Based on the "reviews" by the major news organizations he accomplished that. Now the campaign can concentrate on swaying the remaining undecided voters. In the current political climate there are very few truly undecided voters. So, without massive momentum for a candidate (Obama '08), the election effectively comes down to turnout. With Romney threatening to generate significant momentum and potentially deteriorating turnout of the Democrat base, it was much more important for Biden to do what he needed to do than for Ryan. So, although each candidate accomplished his goal at the debate, the greater impact overall has to go to the Democrats. It will be interesting to see how the next Presidential debate will go. One thing that I think most pundits have overlooked is that with Biden being overly aggressive, and thereby firing up the base, Obama can focus on being "presidential" rather than risking coming across as just being angry. I don't know you, so please take this with all due respect: you are clearly far too reasonable to post in a political thread here. Stop it. I was thinking the same thing. Lol, yeah, really, what was he thinking!! Gee, Thanks a bunch. You single-handedly killed a good thread with reason and political smarts. I'm gonna go TANing.
We can always talk about the CA debate that almost came to blows! |
| 2012-10-12 11:46 AM in reply to: #4449875 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? In the interest of not having this thread die down...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49387561
Thus, there is no difference between either of these candidates. |
| 2012-10-12 12:42 PM in reply to: #4451503 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? JoshR - 2012-10-12 11:46 AM In the interest of not having this thread die down...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49387561
Thus, there is no difference between either of these candidates. At least he represented his constituency, then. And is representing them now, too. It's all about who one's courting at the time. |
| 2012-10-12 1:25 PM in reply to: #4451181 |
Veteran 312 St. Paul | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? zaichikmiller - 2012-10-12 9:13 AM So, without massive momentum for a candidate (Obama '08), the election effectively comes down to turnout. Agreed. At this point, there are greater gains to be made by increasing you supporters turnout than by battling over the undecideds. A 20% swing in undecided voters likely will have a smaller impact that a few % increase in supporter turnout at the polls. |
| 2012-10-12 1:28 PM in reply to: #4450913 |
Veteran 312 St. Paul | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? morey000 - 2012-10-11 10:38 PM Ryan may have give conservatives what they wanted to hear, but Biden gave America what they wanted to hear. Funny - I'm conservative and all along I though I lived in America! |
| 2012-10-12 2:39 PM in reply to: #4451092 |
Elite 4547 | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? GomesBolt - 2012-10-12 9:02 AM NXS - 2012-10-12 8:26 AM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-10-11 10:15 PM Delivery-wise, Biden was excellent. I loved the fire in the belly! He didn't let Ryan get away with shenanigans...he called him out on the mullarkey. Loved it! Joe represented Delaware well tonight. btw, the moderator was fantastic. I've never been to Delaware. Is everyone there that rude? I thought this ad would come-out today. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/11/rnc_web_ad_laughing_at_the_issues.html How anyone can look at that and not describe it as unprofessional, I have no idea. And then there's this:
I'll tell ya his reaction was a heck of a lot more professional than mine would be if I had someone sitting 5' away from me intentionally misleading the American people. Joe's laughter was incredulous laughter. How could one not laugh incredulously after hearing what Ryan was presenting? Joe was great. He didn't let Ryan get away with it. He spoke from the heart...his final remarks didn't sound scripted like Ryan's did. |
| 2012-10-12 2:44 PM in reply to: #4451808 |
Champion 18680 Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: Who is watching the VP debate tonight? ChineseDemocracy - 2012-10-12 3:39 PM GomesBolt - 2012-10-12 9:02 AM NXS - 2012-10-12 8:26 AM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-10-11 10:15 PM Delivery-wise, Biden was excellent. I loved the fire in the belly! He didn't let Ryan get away with shenanigans...he called him out on the mullarkey. Loved it! Joe represented Delaware well tonight. btw, the moderator was fantastic. I've never been to Delaware. Is everyone there that rude? I thought this ad would come-out today. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/11/rnc_web_ad_laughing_at_the_issues.html How anyone can look at that and not describe it as unprofessional, I have no idea. And then there's this:
I'll tell ya his reaction was a heck of a lot more professional than mine would be if I had someone sitting 5' away from me intentionally misleading the American people. Joe's laughter was incredulous laughter. How could one not laugh incredulously after hearing what Ryan was presenting? Joe was great. He didn't let Ryan get away with it. He spoke from the heart...his final remarks didn't sound scripted like Ryan's did. Why should this bother Biden The Obama campain does not know the meaning of the word truthful? Really see two can play that game.
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