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 2010-05-03 3:17 PM in reply to: #2833875 |
Expert  1207   Liberty Lake, WA |  Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Threadhalfironmike - 2010-05-03 1:15 PM mallen4574 - 2010-05-03 11:18 AM I hate to be that guy but I'm so pumped about my time I can't help but tell everyone I know. I ran a 42:40 and felt great at the finish. Nice numbers for the month - and great 12k time. No problem being that guy, but it just opens you up to having people say, "if you felt great at the finish you weren't pushing hard enough" haha! Or they could point out that you got chicked not once, not twice, but 11 times. Really, a very impressive run. |
| 2010-05-03 3:30 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
Master 1254 Chesapeake, VA | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread
Geez. Great numbers everybody! I feel like a slacker compared to most of you. Although I think I only missed 3 planned workouts for the month. May will be even better with a HIM, and 2 century rides (one with 11,000+ feet of climbing). | |
| 2010-05-03 4:44 PM in reply to: #2832791 |
| Regular 252 | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread runnergirl - 2010-05-03 6:54 AM This may have already been mentioned but I'm too lazy to go back through the entire thread. Can anyone tell me what the total feet of climbing for one loop of the bike course? Thanks! 1350-1400 feet. |
| 2010-05-03 5:28 PM in reply to: #2834316 |
Master 2501  | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread ericd256 - 2010-05-03 4:44 PM runnergirl - 2010-05-03 6:54 AM This may have already been mentioned but I'm too lazy to go back through the entire thread. Can anyone tell me what the total feet of climbing for one loop of the bike course? Thanks! 1350-1400 feet.The folks I was with last weekend in CdA figured that the total climbing for the course was just shy of 6K. So that would mean one loop would be just shy of 3K. Are they off by that much? Is the total just 3-ish K feet? |
| 2010-05-03 5:38 PM in reply to: #2834401 |
Expert 1207 Liberty Lake, WA | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread kkcbelle - 2010-05-03 4:28 PM ericd256 - 2010-05-03 4:44 PM runnergirl - 2010-05-03 6:54 AM This may have already been mentioned but I'm too lazy to go back through the entire thread. Can anyone tell me what the total feet of climbing for one loop of the bike course? Thanks! 1350-1400 feet.The folks I was with last weekend in CdA figured that the total climbing for the course was just shy of 6K. So that would mean one loop would be just shy of 3K. Are they off by that much? Is the total just 3-ish K feet? From MapMyRide, one loop is 1371'. http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/id/coeur-d-alene/387744574 |
| 2010-05-03 5:52 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
Extreme Veteran 483 San Diego | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread I checked out some Garmin Connects for the course and the one that used the Garmin Edge 500 (with the barometric altimeter) shows about 2,500 ft. of climb per loop. The other (GPS-based) elevations show about 2,000 ft. |
| 2010-05-03 6:31 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
Elite 5316 Alturas, California | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread I like the idea of 4000 to 5000 feet total beter than 6000...... I had heard 5000-5500 on some other random thread about CDA. I think Vineman was like 4400... so hopefully not much worse. |
| 2010-05-03 6:45 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
Regular 56 | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread If there is any good news about any of this, it is that "what goes up, must come down"! |
| 2010-05-03 6:58 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
The Original 7834 Raleigh/Durham | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread I'm worried I'm not getting in enough climbing. The "hilliest" route around here for 56 miles is about 1,100 feet of climbing which is not enough. It's more "rolling" so I'm getting constant up and down but I have a feeling it's not going to be enough to make me ready for the CDA bike course. I'm wondering if I need to add in some hill repeats in the middle of my ride or something to help me get more climbing? I need to figure something out because I don't want to be under prepared for IM CDA. |
| 2010-05-03 7:19 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
Regular 56 | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread This video may give you some perspective of the course: http://iamtri.com/video/coeur-dalene-bike-course Here are some photos of the bike course and the bike course profile: http://iamtri.com/group/ironmancoeurdaleneimcda/forum/topics/imcda-the-bike |
 2010-05-04 9:04 AM in reply to: #2834629 |
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| 2010-05-04 12:22 PM in reply to: #2835508 |
| New user 41 | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread UrsusAdiposimus - 2010-05-04 10:04 AM I am actually worried that I am doing too much climbing and not getting in enough steady-state work. My long rides have all averaged 90' of climbing per mile, or 2x that of IM CDA. I live right near Harriman park near NYC and the place has an absolutely savage amount of climbing. I hope I am not testing the law of diminishing returns here. I don't think too much climbing is going to hurt you - I live in midwest farmland Ohio and there are ZERO rolling hills and ZERO mountains to climb. Flat as a pancake. I am just trying to spend a ton of time in harder gears and lower candence. If anyone else has any suggestions, let me know! 53 days! |
| 2010-05-04 12:38 PM in reply to: #2836126 |
| The Original 7834 Raleigh/Durham | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread spathrw - 2010-05-04 1:22 PM UrsusAdiposimus - 2010-05-04 10:04 AM I am actually worried that I am doing too much climbing and not getting in enough steady-state work. My long rides have all averaged 90' of climbing per mile, or 2x that of IM CDA. I live right near Harriman park near NYC and the place has an absolutely savage amount of climbing. I hope I am not testing the law of diminishing returns here. I don't think too much climbing is going to hurt you - I live in midwest farmland Ohio and there are ZERO rolling hills and ZERO mountains to climb. Flat as a pancake. I am just trying to spend a ton of time in harder gears and lower candence. If anyone else has any suggestions, let me know! 53 days!Spin classes- crank up the resistance and climb! I've been doing 1-2 spin classes a week and if you do it right they will make you stronger. Of course it's not the same as riding hills but I've noticed spin classes have helped me more than riding the trainer. Of course our instructor is hard core which helps too. |
| 2010-05-04 12:45 PM in reply to: #2836126 |
| Master 1254 Chesapeake, VA | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread spathrw - 2010-05-04 1:22 PM I don't think too much climbing is going to hurt you - I live in midwest farmland Ohio and there are ZERO rolling hills and ZERO mountains to climb. Flat as a pancake. I am just trying to spend a ton of time in harder gears and lower candence. If anyone else has any suggestions, let me know! 53 days! Yup. I live at sea level and our hills are considered bridges. This will be my third time doing CdA and lots of focused trainer sessions will be a huge asset come race day. I am also traveling for a couple of my longer rides to get in some real mountain training. |
| 2010-05-05 5:34 PM in reply to: #2834418 |
| Member 34 Denver-ish | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread T in Liberty Lake - 2010-05-03 4:38 PM kkcbelle - 2010-05-03 4:28 PM ericd256 - 2010-05-03 4:44 PM runnergirl - 2010-05-03 6:54 AM This may have already been mentioned but I'm too lazy to go back through the entire thread. Can anyone tell me what the total feet of climbing for one loop of the bike course? Thanks! 1350-1400 feet.The folks I was with last weekend in CdA figured that the total climbing for the course was just shy of 6K. So that would mean one loop would be just shy of 3K. Are they off by that much? Is the total just 3-ish K feet? From MapMyRide, one loop is 1371'. http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/id/coeur-d-alene/387744574 I've seen it quoted from numerous sources (both GPS and barometric - actual ride data) that the gain is between 5K and 7K (total including both loops). Mapmyride appears to be incorrect for this IMCdA. |
| 2010-05-06 10:15 AM in reply to: #2236122 |
| Regular 156 Annapolis, MD | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread There appears to be a wide range of reported elevation gains for the course (so far I've seen between 1371 and 3500 feet per loop in this thread). Does the WTC have any real data for the course? |
| 2010-05-06 2:14 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
| Pro 3705 Vestavia Hills | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Ummm ... is the May 6th water temp in Lake Coeur d'Alene really 47*F (8.5*C)? If so is it reasonable to think that it will go up 13* between now and race day? (I like to hope for at least 60* water temp for race day ... is that too much to ask for?  )http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwisweb/graph?agency_cd=USGS&site_no=12417610&parm_cd=00010&period=7 |
| 2010-05-06 2:37 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
| The Original 7834 Raleigh/Durham | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread I checked the 10 day forecast and it looks like the weather should be warming up over the next few days. Hopefully the lake will warm up as well. I would also like to see 60 degree water temp on race day- that would be great! Does anyone know what the temp has been for the past few years on race day? |
| 2010-05-06 2:41 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
| Expert 1006 Kansas City, MO | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Well, if i am not going to senile...... I believe it was 58 degrees in 2008, I know they let us wear neoprene booties and caps for the race that year. But to be honest the first couple minutes were cold but it was totally fine after that.. course I may have a little more insulation than some too..... |
| 2010-05-06 3:00 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
| The Original 7834 Raleigh/Durham | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread How is it swimming with booties on? Do they create any type of drag or do they end up falling off? Edited by runnergirl 2010-05-06 3:01 PM |
| 2010-05-06 3:49 PM in reply to: #2841919 |
| Master 1254 Chesapeake, VA | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread brian - 2010-05-06 3:14 PM Ummm ... is the May 6th water temp in Lake Coeur d'Alene really 47*F (8.5*C)? If so is it reasonable to think that it will go up 13* between now and race day? (I like to hope for at least 60* water temp for race day ... is that too much to ask for? )http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwisweb/graph?agency_cd=USGS&site_no=12417610&parm_cd=00010&period=7 It was approximately 60 degrees in 2007 & 2009. I think this is pretty close to the normal water temp this time of year. This year's race is later in June than normal so that should help as well. |
| 2010-05-06 3:51 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
| Member 59 Houston | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Not sure about wearing booties (would seem to get in the way and slow you down..??) but I plan on purchasing a neoprene swim cap just in case its too cold for me... I get cold pretty easily |
| 2010-05-06 3:58 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
| Expert 1006 Kansas City, MO | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread the neoprene booties were no problem at all, they fit on you just like a swim cap and peel right off... they were not really necessary in my opinion but the water was down around 55-56 degrees on thursday and people were freaking out. it was nice walking around in them b/c they have just a little bit of sole so that if you hit a rock or stick it didn't hurt.... but not worth the money if you want my two cents... |
| 2010-05-06 4:27 PM in reply to: #2236122 |
| Member 15 | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread On the topic of elevation, I came across these websites: http://www.trimaven.com/Ironman/ironman-coeur-dalene/All-Pages Bike: 112 miles The bike course is a 2 loop course, closed to cars and takes you north up towards Hayden Lake. The bike course is more challenging than it initially would appear. The course is very technical, with enough difficulty to keep things interesting. <script src="http://www.trimaven.com/races/swfobject.js" type="text/javascript"><script type="text/javascript">
Not sure how accurate this is, but thought it might be helpful. |
| 2010-05-07 12:24 AM in reply to: #2842251 |
| Master 1472 | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread bheemeryck - 2010-05-06 2:27 PM On the topic of elevation, I came across these websites: http://www.trimaven.com/Ironman/ironman-coeur-dalene/All-Pages Bike: 112 miles The bike course is a 2 loop course, closed to cars and takes you north up towards Hayden Lake. The bike course is more challenging than it initially would appear. The course is very technical, with enough difficulty to keep things interesting. <script src="http://www.trimaven.com/races/swfobject.js" type="text/javascript"><script type="text/javascript">
Not sure how accurate this is, but thought it might be helpful. A couple of thing immediately stand out as questionable. First off the bike start and finish are at the exact same place... can not be a difference in elevation as indicated. It shows a max grade of over 19%. I say BS. I have ridden this course countless times and can not think of any hill that steep if even for a very short time. 19% is crazy steep. It's crazy to me that with today's technology we can't get accurate and consistent data. Edited by idahodan 2010-05-07 12:27 AM |
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