Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) (Page 335)

Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Hi Manatees,

Insomnia for the second night in a row last night... wide awake at 3am for a few hours only to fall asleep around 5:30 to have the alarm go off at 6am.  Blargh! 

 

Needless to say, biking didn't happen this morning - I'll just have to give George a good workout after work. 

Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

HA!  Good to know my alma mater is doing something useful for the world... and destroying epic drunken stories all at the same time. 

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/the-mathematical-formula-that-proves-cow-tipping-is-a-myth/279357/

 

FYI - cows are NOT comfortable to ride. 

Originally posted by amd723 That is an important piece of scholarly work! It also means I have to call out at least one friend who claims to have gone cow tipping in high school. Although, now that I think of it, I don't think she ever said they were ever successful in getting the cow tipped.

Originally posted by QueenZipp
Funny....but makes me wonder how much time and money was spent researching something as silly as cow tipping when there are so many other useful things to study.....Oh WTH, they probably had grant money and since there was math involved in the study it might have *some* relevance.... 

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Hmmmm, I have an interesting issue. Maybe you guys could weigh in on this.

Option 1

My plan was to start building up my mileage now through the end of November, running a "B" HM mid  October (training right through, no real taper) and then running an "A" HM the beginning of December. Take December easy, keeping running but not a ton of structure and then ramping up into marathon training in January.

the "B" race is local, would be totally just for fun, super cheap etc.

the "A" race is a tough course, not a PR course, and notoriously bad weather. But it's local and bad weather doesn't scare me. I just realize it's one of those mental strength type of courses

 Option 2

 My coach, however, suggested I run a HM at the end of October. He thinks I am in a position to PR, or would be by then. I think he wants me to run it to A. PR and B. lots of the team is running it so, it would look good for the team. If that makes sense. Essentially I would just be running the one HM and then I guess just keeping my volume up into December and ramping right into marathon training in January.

 What do you guys think?

Originally posted by brigby1

I like option 1 as the type of runs seem more appealing to me, *but* I'm not involved in a team and am not seeking a PR. Having the team look good does make sense, but the weight of that would depend on how invested one is with the team. Nice to be there, like the people, or really trying to work with it to elevate the program more?

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Hmmmm, I have an interesting issue. Maybe you guys could weigh in on this.

Option 1

My plan was to start building up my mileage now through the end of November, running a "B" HM mid  October (training right through, no real taper) and then running an "A" HM the beginning of December. Take December easy, keeping running but not a ton of structure and then ramping up into marathon training in January.

the "B" race is local, would be totally just for fun, super cheap etc.

the "A" race is a tough course, not a PR course, and notoriously bad weather. But it's local and bad weather doesn't scare me. I just realize it's one of those mental strength type of courses

 

Option 2

 

My coach, however, suggested I run a HM at the end of October. He thinks I am in a position to PR, or would be by then. I think he wants me to run it to A. PR and B. lots of the team is running it so, it would look good for the team. If that makes sense. Essentially I would just be running the one HM and then I guess just keeping my volume up into December and ramping right into marathon training in January.

 

 

What do you guys think?

Originally posted by rrrunner Sooooo I had a big bag of old running shoes in my closet and FINALLY took them to the LRS this last weekend. Then it occured to me I should have saved a pair for my mud run next weekend. So do I use my oldest pair of current shoes, which still have some miles left in them, or buy a pair of cheapies just for the race?

Originally posted by rrrunner

I'm far from an expert (and didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night) but I like the team/PR route. I see a lot of team presence at the local races here and I think it does promote the teams. And, btw, if I saw your speedy little arse blasting past me in a race I would sure take notice if you were on a team.

Originally posted by Asalzwed

I'm also not really worried about a PR right now.

I attribute a lot of my progress to this team and this coach, so there is a certain amount of loyalty. Although there is no pressure. It's nice to be there as in having a good team showing, having teammates to work with during the run, and having the team show up in a significant way in the top 10 on the male and female side (i imagine)

While I may or may not be a top 10 contender, I don't imagine my performance would do anything to elevate the program lol There are some mighty FAST women who will whoop my rear. 

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Oooh that's tough. How many miles left? Do you have sensitive feet (as in you have to wear a specific shoe or you have issues?) If that's the case and you get cheap shoes, be sure they are comfortable ... Although shoot, even cheap shoes aren't really cheap!

Originally posted by brigby1

Something else I noticed in the article that doesn't seem to be brought up was about outside of running too. Going barefoot a lot of the time in the States may not really be possible, but there are more shoe options. I've been using a couple Merrel Barefoot shoes for some time instead of more traditional thicker soles. They have a nice variety of options for men & women in more lifestyle shoes, in addition to running or training shoes.

Jen, where are you coming from with shoes? The PureCadence may be lighter, but wouldn't put them in with racing flats, and that's probably a good thing here. It's also good that you want to learn to do it right. I went with more the approach of sliding over as opposed to completely starting over. That way I could keep running and not be so frustrated by taking such huge steps back. You'll be building up coming off an injury, so it won't be quite the same, but just wanted to put another perspective out there as it would have taken me at least several years of slow work had I tried to go with something much slimmer (much more lightweight than what you're looking at).

Originally posted by rrrunner

I don't think I'd be too sensitive to an "odd" fit cheapie, considering the nature of these races. The "old" Solomons are probably close to retirement but I hadn't planned to do it quite yet, i.e. next weekend

Originally posted by rrrunner Sooooo I had a big bag of old running shoes in my closet and FINALLY took them to the LRS this last weekend. Then it occured to me I should have saved a pair for my mud run next weekend. So do I use my oldest pair of current shoes, which still have some miles left in them, or buy a pair of cheapies just for the race?

Originally posted by switch

A very wise man helped me through this once with a little tough love advice. 

Don't train late in the day (I'm wondering if this is one of the main culprits).

Don't have any caffiene after 2.

Limit alcohol to

Try to eat at least two hours before bed.

No screen within 20 minutes of trying to go to bed.

Don't do anything other than read (a paper book--no screen), have sex and sleep in your bed.

Maintain hydration throughout the day.

Hugs Mon.  Insomnia sucks, and I still struggle with it sometimes, even when I'm doing everything "right".  Some of my worst times are in really high volume or high intensity training periods. Those insomnia periods are often accompanied by bad, soak-the-sheets night sweats.  I now take that as an early sign of over reaching and try to back down right away. 

/end unsolicited advice.

Originally posted by Asalzwed

It's probably cheaper to just run in the old ones ... OR go to a thrift shop or something to get them really cheap. Luckily I think they wash and donate all of the muddy shoes at the end so I don't have too big of an objection to buying new ones. 

Originally posted by rrrunner

Ooooh I hadn't heard that. I wouldn't mind leaving whatever life is left in my old Solomons for someone else to use.

Originally posted by Asalzwed

I guess that depends on who is organizing the event.

You could go barefoot! 

Originally posted by Asalzwed

I'm also not really worried about a PR right now.

I attribute a lot of my progress to this team and this coach, so there is a certain amount of loyalty. Although there is no pressure. It's nice to be there as in having a good team showing, having teammates to work with during the run, and having the team show up in a significant way in the top 10 on the male and female side (i imagine)

While I may or may not be a top 10 contender, I don't imagine my performance would do anything to elevate the program lol There are some mighty FAST women who will whoop my rear. 

Originally posted by Artemis

Definitely agree on racing.  I need to do one of the two, probably both.  I have a tendency to sign up for races, not be able to train for them as much as I should, and then do the race anyway.  Not a good plan.

He wants me to wait at least 3 weeks before aqua jogging.  Right now, I can swim, but only with a pull buoy.  No kicking.  He's concerned that I've had this fracture for so long, so he wants to give it a fair amount of healing before I do anything.  After that, I will be.  There's an aqua jogging class 3 days/week at the gym. 1 or 2 in the afternoon!

Originally posted by jmkizer

Depending on how much swimming you think that you'll be able to get in during the next three weeks, you might consider this pull buoy (Aqua Sphere ErgoBuoy Pull Buoy).  I got one last year when my leg was acting up and it was good for the long distances of pulling.   I got it at Dick's.   It would only be worth it if you think you'll use it for longer stuff or if you think that shelling out $20 will motivate you to get to the pool more.