Mad Manatees Mentor Group - VERY CLOSED!!! Sorry! (Page 34)

TriAya - 2013-01-05 1:25 AM

Not like I have been NO WAY NOT LIKE I HAVE BEEN NOT THIS TIME NO NO NO

I think the post-IM, post-crazy holidays "depression" was me getting sick; I just didn't notice the particulars until a low fever set in yesterday which has been spiking high today.

It's okay, the brief periods of feeling okay are quickly taken over by the WORST HEADACHE EVER or another fever spell. I'm very tired and need to rest but feel terribly restless. But I'm in bed, anyway.

Also, I'm not feeling run-over sick (yet) and really do not want to go there / put myself there (indeed, some old dogs CAN learn new tricks). Not having any respiratory or horrible-GI symptoms (I'd call 'em mild GI symptoms), so that's good. I really hope it isn't one of my teeth again, in hiding waiting to blow up.

Muskrat37 - 2013-01-06 12:32 PM

That can be taken many different ways... LOL  

And yes, I would be interested...I love teaching / coaching... I give swim lessons on the side and wish I could do it or coaching for a living.  

Artemis - 2013-01-05 10:25 PM Hiya Manatees!  I am back from visiting my family in Wisconsin and got back today.  Sorry for the radio silence. We decided to try computer-free travel.  I did some FB updates, but that's about it.  Sadly, no running. I got a cold and spent most of the week sick.  That and the cold weather seemed like a disaster for my lungs.  Going to run tomorrow, though. Temps here are in the 40s, and it feels downright balmy!

jobaxas - 2013-01-06 7:52 AM Hey Manatees can't sleep due to time zone change gotta love that! Also stressing about IM!!! Original Manatees you know of my cycling phobia new manatees welcome! I am a triathlete who just cannot ride!! I can put in hours and hours on the drainer but road riding just a cold sweat! Not really asking advice though its always welcome! I've got eleven weeks til IM so serious hours on the drainer coming up I figure all time in the saddle is worthwhile. Can I do IM with this plus minimal riding around a local track? I did my HIM on that alone and it was fine not pretty as I didn't have nearly enough hours in the saddle and wasn't used to steep climbs. Melbourne not hilly no reason to stop (my big hang up) but I need handling skills to eat and drink comfortably. I'm gonna wear a camelpak and two bottles on the bike unless its 100F that will be fine. Aero bars - can I complete IM without I did HIM without and not uncomfortable except wear and tear on nether regions!!! Thoughts manatees. I've got this far I don't wanna pull out. I want to learn to love my bike

rrrunner - 2013-01-07 2:09 AM

Dear, dear Jo. GET OUTSIDE!!!!!! Can you schedule more time with your bike coach? You were doing so well after you saw him!

Many triathletes do most of their bike training on the drainer but they will also say that handling skills suffer. When your handlling skills are already, um, uncomfortable, then you REALLY need to ride outside some. Get outside for at least part of your long rides if you can get away. (I can't imagine doing my long rides on a drainer, ugh). What if Melbourne throws some weather related issues at you? You need to have a solid comfort on the bike so that you can handle unexpected issues.

As for aero, I think the main benefit loss is time savings. If you're not worried about that then I wouldn't worry about aero. Besides, that brings a whole new set of handling challenges  

KansasMom - 2013-01-07 2:06 AM

8.35 mile run yesterday. I feel great about my effort, my pace, and how good I felt after. My heart rate was a little elevated this morning, well, at 82, quite a bit elevated, so I am going to take it really easy today. A one mile run and an easy 30 minutes on the trainer. I'm playing Blokus with my 6 year old this morning. I hope everyone has a great day.

Artemis - 2013-01-06 3:25 PMHiya Manatees!  I am back from visiting my family in Wisconsin and got back today.  Sorry for the radio silence. We decided to try computer-free travel.  I did some FB updates, but that's about it.  Sadly, no running. I got a cold and spent most of the week sick.  That and the cold weather seemed like a disaster for my lungs.  Going to run tomorrow, though. Temps here are in the 40s, and it feels downright balmy!

jobaxas - 2013-01-06 6:52 AM Hey Manatees can't sleep due to time zone change gotta love that! Also stressing about IM!!! Original Manatees you know of my cycling phobia new manatees welcome! I am a triathlete who just cannot ride!! I can put in hours and hours on the drainer but road riding just a cold sweat! Not really asking advice though its always welcome! I've got eleven weeks til IM so serious hours on the drainer coming up I figure all time in the saddle is worthwhile. Can I do IM with this plus minimal riding around a local track? I did my HIM on that alone and it was fine not pretty as I didn't have nearly enough hours in the saddle and wasn't used to steep climbs. Melbourne not hilly no reason to stop (my big hang up) but I need handling skills to eat and drink comfortably. I'm gonna wear a camelpak and two bottles on the bike unless its 100F that will be fine. Aero bars - can I complete IM without I did HIM without and not uncomfortable except wear and tear on nether regions!!! Thoughts manatees. I've got this far I don't wanna pull out. I want to learn to love my bike

KansasMom - 2013-01-06 7:06 AM

8.35 mile run yesterday. I feel great about my effort, my pace, and how good I felt after. My heart rate was a little elevated this morning, well, at 82, quite a bit elevated, so I am going to take it really easy today. A one mile run and an easy 30 minutes on the trainer. I'm playing Blokus with my 6 year old this morning. I hope everyone has a great day.

Muskrat37 - 2013-01-07 3:57 AM

One hell of a trip - hope the little one gets better soon.  

I would say forget aero.  I have a tri bike - it was my first tri bike ever, and my first good bike in a long time (20 years)... the first time I tried to ride aero, it was a sight to see!  I'm not afraid of my bike or riding (I love doing it) and I love to go super fast, but at about 40 - 45 mph I always come out of aero and get on the horns anyways... Aero just doesn't feel as stable as the horns do.  

I would suspect aero would be scary for you.  

That's it...that's all I can offer.. Have fun - I'll be here on the other side of the world rooting for you to find a love of the bike. 

KansasMom - 2013-01-06 10:02 AM I was just thinking about you last night. I am glad you got away. Sorry about the cold. How did E like Christmas?

jobaxas - 2013-01-06 10:35 AM Welcome back hope you had fun o. Your travels. I'm glad to be home to a nearly normal routine apart from jet lag and Artemis sick with tonsillitis and ear infection- the fun never stops!!!

jogo - 2013-01-06 10:12 AM

1 week into training for Big Sur and I am melting down already.  I forgot how hard it is to train when you are a blob who has done nothing in a long time.  This has been the longest I have gone "out of shape" in my adult life (at least in the past 18 years since I started running).  I feel like I am starting from nothing.  It seems like a totally different body than one that has run 6 marathons in the past, and just PR'd in 4/12 at Big Sur.

I am struggling and a traditional marathon plan seems overwhelming right now (Hanson's is not bad right now but I feel like even that is too much and Higdon's, with the long run is very overwhelming). 

What do you all think of this:

4 days a week running-starting at 30 min (3 days) and 1 hour for the long run building to 60 min (3 days) and 4 hour long run

2 days a week doing 1 hour crosstraining moderately hard(Tuesday) and one as active recovery (Sunday)

Squats and lunges daily. 

I am thinking of training to minutes only, not mileage.  Should I try to pace to a HR monitor and build this plan with some zone work in it, letting my HR set the pace? 

This is new territory but when I think miles I am feeling way too overwhelmed.  I may drop to a lesser race (21 mile, 10.9 or 9 mile option).  Ultimately, I would like to start the marathon (and finish) and make it to the 22 mile mark (which has a sag bus for those that don't make the cut off).  That way I would still do at least the 21 mile but get to run on the best part of the Big Sur course, not the 21 mile course which does not run the Highway 1 area of Big Sur. 

What do you think of my minutes/HR plan?  

I will be incorporating a basically meatless diet and hydration and sleep into my plan.

silverback25 - 2013-01-06 4:50 AM

Hi everyone.

1st weeks training almost complete. very happy with how it's gone. Still suffering with a bit of a chest cold so i've taken it steady with only short sessions. Normally i would have taken the week off to get over the cold but i set myself a goal for 2013 and i didn't want to blow it in the 1st week.

Also i've managed to drop 4lbs this week.

bcraht - 2013-01-05 8:22 PM

Still trying to decide between two Half Iron Races...

Pros to Oliver

1 swim loop, 2 bike, 2 run (I don't love loops)

Little holiday and visit with friends

3 weeks before HM

Cons to Oliver

Have to travel

June 2nd (enough time given recent injury?)

Pros to Vancouver

25-40$ cheaper

No travel required

July 14th--more time to prep

Cons to Vancouver

No holiday/visit with friends

2 swim loops, 4 bike loops (with a b!tch of a hill at the start of each lap), 2 run loops (did I mention I don't love loops?)

3 weeks after HM

 

WWMD? (What Would Manatees Do?)

KansasMom - 2013-01-06 10:06 AM

8.35 mile run yesterday. I feel great about my effort, my pace, and how good I felt after. My heart rate was a little elevated this morning, well, at 82, quite a bit elevated, so I am going to take it really easy today. A one mile run and an easy 30 minutes on the trainer. I'm playing Blokus with my 6 year old this morning. I hope everyone has a great day.

rrrunner - 2013-01-06 10:09 AM

Dear, dear Jo. GET OUTSIDE!!!!!! Can you schedule more time with your bike coach? You were doing so well after you saw him!

Many triathletes do most of their bike training on the drainer but they will also say that handling skills suffer. When your handlling skills are already, um, uncomfortable, then you REALLY need to ride outside some. Get outside for at least part of your long rides if you can get away. (I can't imagine doing my long rides on a drainer, ugh). What if Melbourne throws some weather related issues at you? You need to have a solid comfort on the bike so that you can handle unexpected issues.

As for aero, I think the main benefit loss is time savings. If you're not worried about that then I wouldn't worry about aero. Besides, that brings a whole new set of handling challenges  

jogo - 2013-01-06 1:12 PM

1 week into training for Big Sur and I am melting down already.  I forgot how hard it is to train when you are a blob who has done nothing in a long time.  This has been the longest I have gone "out of shape" in my adult life (at least in the past 18 years since I started running).  I feel like I am starting from nothing.  It seems like a totally different body than one that has run 6 marathons in the past, and just PR'd in 4/12 at Big Sur.

I am struggling and a traditional marathon plan seems overwhelming right now (Hanson's is not bad right now but I feel like even that is too much and Higdon's, with the long run is very overwhelming). 

What do you all think of this:

4 days a week running-starting at 30 min (3 days) and 1 hour for the long run building to 60 min (3 days) and 4 hour long run

2 days a week doing 1 hour crosstraining moderately hard(Tuesday) and one as active recovery (Sunday)

Squats and lunges daily. 

I am thinking of training to minutes only, not mileage.  Should I try to pace to a HR monitor and build this plan with some zone work in it, letting my HR set the pace? 

This is new territory but when I think miles I am feeling way too overwhelmed.  I may drop to a lesser race (21 mile, 10.9 or 9 mile option).  Ultimately, I would like to start the marathon (and finish) and make it to the 22 mile mark (which has a sag bus for those that don't make the cut off).  That way I would still do at least the 21 mile but get to run on the best part of the Big Sur course, not the 21 mile course which does not run the Highway 1 area of Big Sur. 

What do you think of my minutes/HR plan?  

I will be incorporating a basically meatless diet and hydration and sleep into my plan.