Mad Manatees Mentor Group - VERY CLOSED!!! Sorry! (Page 35)

WWMD? (What Would Manatees Do?)

Kirsten, with the achilles challenges you have been having, my thought would be to give as much time to healing as you could. So, given that I want to heal up and I am cheap, Vancouver wins in my book. The HM would give you a good idea where you are in your training as well.

Thanks for the replies, guys.  My achilles was uncrunchy/uncreaky since Friday afternoon, so I did a couple (3 really) eccentric drops just to see, and I could feel it creaking a bit.  So, I don't think there is any way I will be ready June 2.  Honestly, I am cheap too, so Vancouver is probably the better option, but you know, if someone tells me I can't do Option B, it's the one I really want to do...

I got up early this am and went to the pool.  I wanted to make sure I hadn't forgotten how to swim (Haven't been since Dec 14) as masters starts back up tomorrow.  I just did 1000m, but felt ok.  I then did 30 min of aquajogging.  Going to do a ride on the drainer later.  Happy Sunday everyone!

1 week into training for Big Sur and I am melting down already.  I forgot how hard it is to train when you are a blob who has done nothing in a long time.  This has been the longest I have gone "out of shape" in my adult life (at least in the past 18 years since I started running).  I feel like I am starting from nothing.  It seems like a totally different body than one that has run 6 marathons in the past, and just PR'd in 4/12 at Big Sur.

I am struggling and a traditional marathon plan seems overwhelming right now (Hanson's is not bad right now but I feel like even that is too much and Higdon's, with the long run is very overwhelming). 

What do you all think of this:

4 days a week running-starting at 30 min (3 days) and 1 hour for the long run building to 60 min (3 days) and 4 hour long run

2 days a week doing 1 hour crosstraining moderately hard(Tuesday) and one as active recovery (Sunday)

Squats and lunges daily. 

I am thinking of training to minutes only, not mileage.  Should I try to pace to a HR monitor and build this plan with some zone work in it, letting my HR set the pace? 

This is new territory but when I think miles I am feeling way too overwhelmed.  I may drop to a lesser race (21 mile, 10.9 or 9 mile option).  Ultimately, I would like to start the marathon (and finish) and make it to the 22 mile mark (which has a sag bus for those that don't make the cut off).  That way I would still do at least the 21 mile but get to run on the best part of the Big Sur course, not the 21 mile course which does not run the Highway 1 area of Big Sur. 

What do you think of my minutes/HR plan?  

I will be incorporating a basically meatless diet and hydration and sleep into my plan.

Salty, I am totally going from 0 to marathon and I have 16 weeks.  However, as one of my trainer friends told me, I can't call it couch to marathon because I have 6 marathons under my belt (4 since 8/11).  I am hoping for some muscle memory.   The Hanson's plan starts out with 10-15 miles per week and increases to 60mpw.  It is an 18 week plan.  Crosstraining is NOT part of their plan.  They run you 6 times/week after the 1st 5 weeks (only 3, 4, 5 times/wk to start).  They don't believe that crosstraining is benefitial to marathon training except for active recovery.  

I guess you are right about it not being enough.  I will just stick with what I am doing. 

I love the idea of just going from week to week and not looking ahead.  I think that is what freaks me out the most. 

I am quite realistic, as I was last year, that this goal might be too lofty.  However, I was able to pull it off and PR last year even with my minimal training (remember calf issues and pneumonia, along with my daughter being in the ICU). 

I am going to beg that the manatees keep me on track and when I start to doubt myself that you guys remind me to have faith in myself.  I hope that you all call me out if I am slacking.  I will try hard not to cheat myself.  Thanks for the reminder!! 

Mind you if the weather in Melbourne is anything like it has been here then I would stay inside in the aircon.

Next time you feel like caving, turn around and ride away from home.  Keep riding away until you hit your time and then call for a ride.  Take money to stop at a Sbx and sit there till your ride comes.  You'll feel better about it and you won't have to go up that hill.   If someone can't come pick you up till later, you will have a warm place to sit and enjoy.  You've earned that latte with no regrets. 

Not meaning that you have regrets now but these are sometimes the games we have to play with ourselves.  I, for one, can never do loops and see my car on a run.  I have to run in such a way that I have to make it back to my car to make my mileage. 

30 mins on the trainer tonight.  1st time I've gotten on my bike in months and let me just say - OUCH!  That was hard.  

Also did my 1st swim session of the year this week.  Swam on Friday night.  I know my pull was good because my triceps have been sore for 2 days.  

Can't believe how far away I am from my next Ultra - but I will get there.  

And BTW TJ - when I got on the trainer, I WAS going to ride for 1 hour.  I guess I'm not worthy either and should be booted from the group too!