SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! (Page 359)

drink some water the night before and you won't have to carry 3 bottles for 14 mile ride.


Edited by fattyfatfat 2009-11-25 10:25 PM

no its not.

SWEET!!!!!!!!!    presidio is calling you!

Yeah no kidding.  I actually stick to a basic plan of my fav bottled water the week before a race and I drink at least 2 liters a day.  Too much more than that I get headaches from the sodium displacement and I don't like trying to supplement that right before a race.  But going from Michigans 50-60 degree peak October temperatures to Nevada's morning temps of 80-90 and knowing that I was going to get a butt kicking climbing the hills - I figured that an extra pound of water wasn't going to affect my performance negatively.  And I didn't feel too awkward as they were running a half there too

OK so on a more serious note: I'm mapping out my training plan for next year.  Of course, I am planning it to peak a few weeks before my 2 week Peak (and then a 1 week taper).

So here's the basic layout. 

8 Weeks Prep - Nov 29-Jan23 -- High Frequency, Short Duration (Prevent [and Carve off] those extra Holiday pounds), Low Volume.

16 Weeks Base - Jan24-May15 -- High Frequency, Moderate Intensity and Moderate to High Volume.

6 Weeks Build - May 16-June26 -- Moderate Frequency, High Duration, Heavy Intensity (Critical Volume the Week of June 6 and/or June 13).

3 Weeks Peak/Race/Taper - June27-July16 -- Moderate Frequency, Short Duration, Low Volume.

I'm trying to determine my exact weeks for Critical Volume.

But I'll try to have a specific focus each month just to keep things fun: March on VO2 Max Training; April on Lactate-Threshold Training; May on Power; June on VO2 Max/Critical Volume; July on Taper and Recovery.

But this will set me up for a great early season local sprint tri in May and I'll have just finished my post race recovery in time for an August Oly.  Maybe toss in another Oly somewhere in June and I think that's my season. 

Help me tear this apart.  I'm looking at a BT 20 Week Plan that would run from Feb28-July16.  Obviously I'll have to edit the plan a bit during the final push for the Build Phase, but I think I'm on track for a well planned training. 

I almost feel like I'm jumping the gun, but to get the plan to work for me and the planned HIM, I'm limited for time.  The Prep Phase will be much less structured, especially the first 4 weeks due to Christmas and New Years (and "The Snip" December 28th - yikes).

Is anyone else starting to set up training plans for next season yet?

Edited by JHagerman 2009-11-25 11:26 PM

   

I love waking up and seeing another page of posts! 

Kim, I love the new bike.  It gives me insight into what mine is going to look like.  Carbon is being cut now.  And while you are tempted by nice weather, it is sleeting here for the Berbee Derby 10/5K this morning. 

Tony, you have a white seat.  I was thinking of getting one and wrapping my bars in white too. How do they hold up?  Look grungy early or will it last me a season?

Jeremy, I don't have the expertise to comment on the plan, but the one question that comes to mind is are you treating all sports the same? e.g. your VO2 phase will be for the bike, run and swim? 

Stan, I tried the fist drill you suggested.  I think it helped. Going back this morning to work on it some more. THANK YOU!  All other tips welcome.  I have my first 500TT swim in two weeks.

To the rest of you, have a great Thanksgiving!

PS I got a request to make my sweet potatos from two years so I won't  be doing the Ruth Chris recipe this year.  Will be curious how everyone likes  it.

Edited by SSMinnow 2009-11-26 5:41 AM

Yes they do, just not the same day:

Thanksgiving Day in Canada is celebrated in much the same way as in the United States. It was formerly celebrated on the last Monday in October. But in 1957, the Canadian government proclaimed the second Monday in October to be the holiday.

 

But not the same day.  Does that mean they get two days off for Thanksgiving...ours and theirs?

your post states Canada is the only other country that celebrates thanksgiving.  that is not accurate. and i think we've hashed out that the boys up north eat some turkey or bald eagles or something.

 


 

Happy Thanksgiving. In Boston visiting the inlaws and my wife's 1000s of relatives. Lunch and dinner = One big pot luck of naughty food.Has anyone had problems with their garmin in fog? I went for a run this morning and I'm pretty sure I ran only 6 ish miles but the garmin said 10. It also said I averaged less than 5 min miles. Maybe I just need to run in Boston fog more often.

Btw keep the bike porn coming. Very sexy bikes.

Happy Turkey Day ALL!!!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!

Suzy, as I understand it, I think that for the VO2 Max Training I am conditioning myself to faster/farther/longer.  The VO2 Max Effort stage is the Critical Volume stage, so yes,  all 3 sports.  I think I'll end up with about a 20-25 hour week at 8k swim, 275m bike and 15-20m run.  I need to see if this is a 1 week thing or a two week gig.  Right now I'm just getting the dates planned.  The actual workouts are still being built.  I'm looking at a BT plan that I would alter the specific workouts/days to fit my bigger plan.

Does this make sense??

Easy you guys, settle down now....We had our Thanksgiving weekend back in October. We fried a bald eagle and it was quite lovely(Whatever Turkey all the way JohnO)

Linda, we DO NOT get today and tomorrow off. I took the days off as we tend to trade around the NYMEX holidays.

And i found this on the web somewhere:

Other Countries' Days of Thanksgiving Celebrations

Here are some other countries that also have set aside days to give thanks.

• Ancient Chinese, Chung Ch'ui, during harvest time.

 

 

• Ancient Greeks, during autumn, a festival to honor the goddess of corn and grains, Demeter.

 

 

• Ancient Romans, during autumn, a celebration honoring the goddess of corn, Ceres.

 

 

• Brazil, Dia Nacional de Acao de Gracas, 4th Thursday of November.

 

 

• British Isles, Lammas Day, a harvest festival.

 

 

• Canada, Thanksgiving Day or Fete de Grace, or Harvest home Festival, 2nd Monday in October.

 

 

• Germany, Erntedankfest, 1st Sunday in October.

 

 

• Israel, Sukkot, the 5th day after Yom Kippur.

 

 Japan, Labor Thanksgiving Day, November 23.

 

 Korea, Chusok, 15th day of the eighth lunar month of the traditional Korean calendar.

 

 

• Liberia, Thanksgiving Day, 1st Thursday in November.

  Mexico, Independence Day, September 16th.

 

Switzerland, The Federal Day of Thanks, Penance, and Prayer, 3rd Sunday in September.

Other Countries' Days of Thanksgiving Celebrations

Here are some other countries that also have set aside days to give thanks.

• Ancient Chinese, Chung Ch'ui, during harvest time.

 

 

• Ancient Greeks, during autumn, a festival to honor the goddess of corn and grains, Demeter.

 

 

• Ancient Romans, during autumn, a celebration honoring the goddess of corn, Ceres.

 

 

• Brazil, Dia Nacional de Acao de Gracas, 4th Thursday of November.

 

 

• British Isles, Lammas Day, a harvest festival.

 

 

• Canada, Thanksgiving Day or Fete de Grace, or Harvest home Festival, 2nd Monday in October.

 

 

• Germany, Erntedankfest, 1st Sunday in October.

 

 

• Israel, Sukkot, the 5th day after Yom Kippur.

 

 

• Japan, Labor Thanksgiving Day, November 23.

 

 

• Korea, Chusok, 15th day of the eighth lunar month of the traditional Korean calendar.

 

 

• Liberia, Thanksgiving Day, 1st Thursday in November.

 

 

• Mexico, Independence Day, September 16th.

 

 

• Switzerland, The Federal Day of Thanks, Penance, and Prayer, 3rd Sunday in September.

Did I just beat Steve's weather post for length of post??? oooohhh i hope so.
You cats enjoy your birds today. I'm off for a run, thrn costco and some football this afternoon.
How about Marion barber going off today and scoring 3 TD's. I'd be thankful for that.

The bar tape does get dirty but it cleans pretty easily either with Simple green or hot water/dish soap.

My white saddle after a year is still very clean.

Had a good race, this AM.  22 and some change.  LOL ran the first mile in 6:45 and couldn't catch the 10 year old in front of me.  I kept waiting for him to fade but never did, he just pulled away.

Realized I need to take a new pic of my tri bike with the newer brake levers and bar tape but here is a current one of my road bike.

nice job.  now you know how i feel, well its not just the 10 year olds, it pretty much everyone. ;-)

freakin' awesome day down here.  got a nice ride in and a short run.  birds in the oven!!!

edit... you might have a fire hazard with all that stuff on top of the radiator.  


Edited by fattyfatfat 2009-11-26 11:26 AM

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.  Got in a nice and easy 5 mile run this morning.  Now it's time to watch some football and chow down!

Edited by Jeepguy2358 2009-11-26 11:42 AM

Stan, coming from the foggiest city in the country, I can say, no Garmin issues with fog here.  But maybe Boston fog is more dense than SF fog

I did a 5 mile run this morning to start the day off right!  Now it's time to get the ovens started
 
Oh, last night there wasn't anything on TV after we watched last week's episode of "dexter"  omg, love that show!  Oh, sorry, sidetrack!  Anyhow they had this "biggest loser, where are they now? show" and they started showing one contestant who went on to do a full Ironman and finished under 13 hours...amazing story and very inspiring... and then they showed a previous winner "Matt" who somehow got to go to Kona and he missed cutoff by 3 minutes...still very inspiring.  
The thing that I found interesting is that he is being interviewed and says "this is the hardest thing in the world to do"
 
And I thought about it.  Yes Ironman is super hard, but it is a choice you make, to train for it, live the lifestyle and complete a goal.  But there are way harder things that people have to go through often through no choice of their own, like living in a war torn country or religious persecution or growing up in poverty or without certain freedoms that I think many of us take for granted.  

Super thanks to my grandparents for immigrating to this country so that I could grow up with so many choices and without fear of persecution.  Good to keep things in perspective.  

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!   

Regarding Matt Hoover.... SOME GOOD READING!
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=2536425;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

I loved watching the Matt Hoover story during the "Where are they now" thing.  17:03... wow!  Dedication and perseverance.

I'm also a Dexter freak.  I did NOT expect that last scene to turn out the way it did.  Only 3 weeks left!

Me too, Jeremy.  Omg, I knew there was something about that girl that was creepy...right after the Deb/Lundy thing happened, Kathy said who did it...and i was like, NO WAY!  wow.  i love this show, but now I don't want to watch the last 3 episodes...it's too good!!!  I want to savor it....  my favorite show on tv...   Hope you are home with the family for Thanksgiving!

I am home with the family.  We had a day away, now we're back home setting down.

I'm too excited for the last few episodes.  I'm anxious to see how this season ends, but I almost want to wait until each episode has been aired so I can watch the last 3 back to back On Demand.