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2013-09-17 5:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Hello Everyone, I hope you are all doing well. I was going back and forth with Janyne the other day and she mentioned an update for everyone, since we have a few new names and faces. And really, I could use the help more than anyone, so I went back and started digging stuff out of early posts, Yanti's original post, and a variety of other places. So, with out further ado, I present tips, tricks and tidbits:
 
WELCOME to the Mad Manatees! We are all mentors AND "mentorees," which sounds like manatees--hence our name.
 
IMPORTANT: All experience levels and goals are welcome. We have brand-new triathletes, multiple-Ironman finishers, folks at the highest levels of endurance sport, and everyone in between. Our training philosophies, gear, and methods are similarly varied. What we share is a commitment to health--physical, social, mental, spiritual, nutritional, et-al--and to each other. Every edition of the Manatees (12th season now?) is a very active group. 
 
1) We ask that you frequently check in, be accountable (even just to admit you're procrastinating or overwhelmed). We understand that life can be a bit much at times, but we truly care about how you are.
2) Be supportive.  This comes in many forms, from gentle prodding to ah, um, other stronger methods. All have been used on me to some degree of success. 
3) Be passionate about wanting health through sport. 
4) Keeping up your training log here on BT and having it open to other group members is mandatory. (If you don't know how to do that, we will help you get set up). We know how BT works and how to guide you through its wealth of resources.
5) Inspires are awesome, you will get them. Use the "Reply" button to respond to someone, in the event that you would like to do so. Unlike forum threads, if you type and post, it may not be seen by the person you are trying to get it to.
6) If you want a table for your log, feel free to copy Janyne's, it is awesome.
7) Keep posting races to your log or keep Janyne updated and she will try to keep you on the list. Stay off the DL and if you can't, please let us know. Again, for the record, we care.
 
AS ALWAYS, ALL FORMER MANATEES ARE WELCOME AT ANY TIME.
 
A few other resources that we can add you too, if you'd like, are the Manatee bike album and the Manatee group in Google. The group came in handy for me during an outage of BT and for something else that I can't remember right now. Send an email to me or Janyne or just about anyone else in the group and we'll get you in there. 
 
Bike album - https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113601404233718914952/albums/5853... feel free to pile on with other helpful Manatee hints that you may have.
 


2013-09-17 5:31 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by cdban66
Hello Everyone, I hope you are all doing well. I was going back and forth with Janyne the other day and she mentioned an update for everyone, since we have a few new names and faces. And really, I could use the help more than anyone, so I went back and started digging stuff out of early posts, Yanti's original post, and a variety of other places. So, with out further ado, I present tips, tricks and tidbits:
 
WELCOME to the Mad Manatees! We are all mentors AND "mentorees," which sounds like manatees--hence our name.
 
IMPORTANT: All experience levels and goals are welcome. We have brand-new triathletes, multiple-Ironman finishers, folks at the highest levels of endurance sport, and everyone in between. Our training philosophies, gear, and methods are similarly varied. What we share is a commitment to health--physical, social, mental, spiritual, nutritional, et-al--and to each other. Every edition of the Manatees (12th season now?) is a very active group. 
 
1) We ask that you frequently check in, be accountable (even just to admit you're procrastinating or overwhelmed). We understand that life can be a bit much at times, but we truly care about how you are.
2) Be supportive.  This comes in many forms, from gentle prodding to ah, um, other stronger methods. All have been used on me to some degree of success. 
3) Be passionate about wanting health through sport. 
4) Keeping up your training log here on BT and having it open to other group members is mandatory. (If you don't know how to do that, we will help you get set up). We know how BT works and how to guide you through its wealth of resources.
5) Inspires are awesome, you will get them. Use the "Reply" button to respond to someone, in the event that you would like to do so. Unlike forum threads, if you type and post, it may not be seen by the person you are trying to get it to.
6) If you want a table for your log, feel free to copy Janyne's, it is awesome.
7) Keep posting races to your log or keep Janyne updated and she will try to keep you on the list. Stay off the DL and if you can't, please let us know. Again, for the record, we care.
 
AS ALWAYS, ALL FORMER MANATEES ARE WELCOME AT ANY TIME.
 
A few other resources that we can add you too, if you'd like, are the Manatee bike album and the Manatee group in Google. The group came in handy for me during an outage of BT and for something else that I can't remember right now. Send an email to me or Janyne or just about anyone else in the group and we'll get you in there. 
 
Bike album - https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113601404233718914952/albums/5853... feel free to pile on with other helpful Manatee hints that you may have.
 

Thanks for keeping us organized Chris!

2013-09-17 6:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

Touching base.

Still in a cast lol.  Getting on the trainer tonight - my new program while cast is as follows.

Run - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 zone 2

Trainer - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 strength

Strength - 2 x per week - squats, lunges, calf raises whatever i can do unimpeded!

Sportoga(yoga based) - 1 x per week

Stretching - after every session

massage - 1 x per week

soul destroying.

2013-09-17 8:39 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by jobaxas

Touching base.

Still in a cast lol.  Getting on the trainer tonight - my new program while cast is as follows.

Run - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 zone 2

Trainer - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 strength

Strength - 2 x per week - squats, lunges, calf raises whatever i can do unimpeded!

Sportoga(yoga based) - 1 x per week

Stretching - after every session

massage - 1 x per week

soul destroying.


Not Soul destroying that looks good to me. At least you can still do all of that.

Are they going to take the cast off eventually and give you a fiberglass one that you may or may not be able to wear when you accidentally fall into the pool and do some kick drills or one armed f/s

Edited by StaceyK 2013-09-17 8:40 PM
2013-09-17 8:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by StaceyK
Originally posted by jobaxas

Touching base.

Still in a cast lol.  Getting on the trainer tonight - my new program while cast is as follows.

Run - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 zone 2

Trainer - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 strength

Strength - 2 x per week - squats, lunges, calf raises whatever i can do unimpeded!

Sportoga(yoga based) - 1 x per week

Stretching - after every session

massage - 1 x per week

soul destroying.

Not Soul destroying that looks good to me. At least you can still do all of that. Are they going to take the cast off eventually and give you a fiberglass one that you may or may not be able to wear when you accidentally fall into the pool and do some kick drills or one armed f/s

I'm having a follow up x ray on Friday - then will demand fibreglass one! 

2013-09-18 8:36 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by jobaxas
Originally posted by StaceyK
Originally posted by jobaxas

Touching base.

Still in a cast lol.  Getting on the trainer tonight - my new program while cast is as follows.

Run - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 zone 2

Trainer - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 strength

Strength - 2 x per week - squats, lunges, calf raises whatever i can do unimpeded!

Sportoga(yoga based) - 1 x per week

Stretching - after every session

massage - 1 x per week

soul destroying.

Not Soul destroying that looks good to me. At least you can still do all of that. Are they going to take the cast off eventually and give you a fiberglass one that you may or may not be able to wear when you accidentally fall into the pool and do some kick drills or one armed f/s

I'm having a follow up x ray on Friday - then will demand fibreglass one! 

Glad to hear that you are likely getting a case "upgrade," now to get you all healed up and cast free!



2013-09-18 8:54 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by jobaxas

I'm having a follow up x ray on Friday - then will demand fibreglass one! 




sounds high tech!!

Welcome to Wednesday - I'll spare you the camel commercial although it still does make me giggle.

Strength training this am and hopefully a few miles outside after work. Fall is here in the Northeast and it's going to be picture perfect for outdoor activities!

Have a good day - don't work too hard.

MBC OUT
2013-09-18 8:58 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by jobaxas

Touching base.

Still in a cast lol.  Getting on the trainer tonight - my new program while cast is as follows.

Run - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 zone 2

Trainer - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 strength

Strength - 2 x per week - squats, lunges, calf raises whatever i can do unimpeded!

Sportoga(yoga based) - 1 x per week

Stretching - after every session

massage - 1 x per week

soul destroying.

That will keep you busy! Curious what the difference between the trainer speed and strength sessions were?

2013-09-18 9:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
I think that it's time to up the anti on my mid-week trainer rides so they are more than just steady rides. I have been looking at some trainer sessions in a couple of books that I have. A lot of them have single leg drills in them. Are these worth doing or not? Is there a purpose to them?
2013-09-18 9:53 AM
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Originally posted by StaceyK I think that it's time to up the anti on my mid-week trainer rides so they are more than just steady rides. I have been looking at some trainer sessions in a couple of books that I have. A lot of them have single leg drills in them. Are these worth doing or not? Is there a purpose to them?

I don't really see the value in them. Some think they help make a more complete pedal stroke, but you have two legs that can share the work. Time is better spent focusing on what to do with the effort along with some cadence variation in there.

2013-09-18 10:32 AM
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Kind of under the weather today.   I've plans to do a century ride this Saturday.     Not sure if I am up to it.    There are other distances to do.   There is a metric century, a fifty miler and a 34 miler.     Methinks I will wait to Saturday and decide which one I'll do.    

 



2013-09-18 11:19 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
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Kind of under the weather today.   I've plans to do a century ride this Saturday.     Not sure if I am up to it.    There are other distances to do.   There is a metric century, a fifty miler and a 34 miler.     Methinks I will wait to Saturday and decide which one I'll do.    

 

Sorry you're feeling sub par. Hope you're feeling better by Saturday.

2013-09-18 11:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by jobaxas

Touching base.

Still in a cast lol.  Getting on the trainer tonight - my new program while cast is as follows.

Run - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 zone 2

Trainer - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 strength

Strength - 2 x per week - squats, lunges, calf raises whatever i can do unimpeded!

Sportoga(yoga based) - 1 x per week

Stretching - after every session

massage - 1 x per week

soul destroying.

I'm liking the massage once a week!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2013-09-18 11:38 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

Originally posted by StaceyK I think that it's time to up the anti on my mid-week trainer rides so they are more than just steady rides. I have been looking at some trainer sessions in a couple of books that I have. A lot of them have single leg drills in them. Are these worth doing or not? Is there a purpose to them?

I suspect they may have been a contributor to my Achilles injury...I won't do them anymore.

2013-09-18 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by StaceyK I think that it's time to up the anti on my mid-week trainer rides so they are more than just steady rides. I have been looking at some trainer sessions in a couple of books that I have. A lot of them have single leg drills in them. Are these worth doing or not? Is there a purpose to them?

Rather than doing those drills, you could up the anti by spending some time working in higher zones, e.g., you could do a workout where you warmed up for 20' then did something like 8' @ zone 4, 3' recovery, 10' zone 3 or 4 3' recovery ,10' zone 3 or 4, 10' cool down.  In other words, just work on upping the hard part of the workout, so you don't spend all your time in zone 2.

2013-09-18 12:13 PM
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Due to our recent flooding (caused by rain amounts that some of you see daily) we've had some road closures. I thought you all would appreciate this road closure sign...





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2013-09-18 12:16 PM
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Due to our recent flooding (caused by rain amounts that some of you see daily) we've had some road closures. I thought you all would appreciate this road closure sign...

Awesome!  Those are street names presumably?

2013-09-18 12:16 PM
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Due to our recent flooding (caused by rain amounts that some of you see daily) we've had some road closures. I thought you all would appreciate this road closure sign...

That's great!

2013-09-18 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by rrrunner

Due to our recent flooding (caused by rain amounts that some of you see daily) we've had some road closures. I thought you all would appreciate this road closure sign...

Awesome!  Those are street names presumably?

They are

2013-09-18 3:21 PM
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Originally posted by jobaxas

Touching base.

Still in a cast lol.  Getting on the trainer tonight - my new program while cast is as follows.

Run - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 zone 2

Trainer - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 strength

Strength - 2 x per week - squats, lunges, calf raises whatever i can do unimpeded!

Sportoga(yoga based) - 1 x per week

Stretching - after every session

massage - 1 x per week

soul destroying.

That will keep you busy! Curious what the difference between the trainer speed and strength sessions were?

A trainer speed session will be about 60mins with some high intensity zone 4 intervals.

A strength session lower intensity - nearer zone 2 maintained over a longer period in bigger gears.

I use the Macca workouts he uses on the trainer - some are brutal!

 

2013-09-18 3:26 PM
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Originally posted by StaceyK I think that it's time to up the anti on my mid-week trainer rides so they are more than just steady rides. I have been looking at some trainer sessions in a couple of books that I have. A lot of them have single leg drills in them. Are these worth doing or not? Is there a purpose to them?

I suspect they may have been a contributor to my Achilles injury...I won't do them anymore.

Listening to a Macca podcast a while back his coach says no.  Don't do them.  Plenty of strength exercises to work those muscles off the bike



2013-09-18 3:27 PM
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Originally posted by rrrunner
Originally posted by jobaxas

Touching base.

Still in a cast lol.  Getting on the trainer tonight - my new program while cast is as follows.

Run - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 zone 2

Trainer - 4 x per week.  2 speed, 1 long, 1 strength

Strength - 2 x per week - squats, lunges, calf raises whatever i can do unimpeded!

Sportoga(yoga based) - 1 x per week

Stretching - after every session

massage - 1 x per week

soul destroying.

I'm liking the massage once a week!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the massage is going to keep me sane through this

2013-09-18 3:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by rrrunner

Due to our recent flooding (caused by rain amounts that some of you see daily) we've had some road closures. I thought you all would appreciate this road closure sign...

That is so cool!

2013-09-18 3:55 PM
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Survived session 2 of masters swim!  And (are you listening/reading, Chris?) today I got my first nuggets of wisdom on how to improve my stroke!   Boy, it is WORK to think about every arm movement, so much work that I at first struggled to keep track of my laps.  So my question to the fishy or in the know manatees, how long, roughly, will it take for these new movements/habits to become more natural, assuming I go to every workout 3 x week for ~75 minutes, working on those new techniques?  I also used a pull buoy for the first time ever today, I swear the first few laps it was trying to drown me!

On a different note, please send some prayers for my little Jack Russell.  Late Monday night she was showing signs of pain/distress/something wrong and a visit to the vet the next morning showed she has a slipped disc.  Poor dear is on an anti-inflammatory, a muscle relaxer, and is on mandatory rest for a week.  Yeah...tell a JR with an equally active 'sister' to rest...  Also, my father-in-law's health has declined and we are taking an unplanned trip to WV this weekend, so send some prayers for him as well.  Hoping the dog is well enough for the trip and that my FIL improves, although the way DH talks, he doesn't really want to improve.  He's tired of being sick and getting treatments and feeling bad, etc.  His spirit has definitely waned along with his health.

2013-09-18 3:56 PM
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Oh shoot, I still didn't finish my RR from 2 weekends ago...I'll get working on it, maybe tomorrow!  It is partially done.
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