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Marriage has its benefits????



Yep.  Mostly tax related.

I missed those tax benefits somewhere...  There might be some other benefits though...



Ironically, probably the best benefit comes from divorce and bifurcated alimony.

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2009-11-19 11:09 AM
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Johners - 2009-11-19 12:04 PM
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Artemis - 2009-11-19 10:50 AM
NRG42 - 2009-11-19 11:47 AM

Marriage has its benefits????



Yep.  Mostly tax related.

I missed those tax benefits somewhere...  There might be some other benefits though...



Ironically, probably the best benefit comes from divorce and bifurcated alimony.



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2009-11-19 11:09 AM
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Artemis - 2009-11-19 11:03 AM
NRG42 - 2009-11-19 11:57 AM You are married not dead......


Doesn't mean you can't look, sure. In general, though, it is hard to get to know people of the opposite sex well because there's always the perception issues.  Plus, if the other person is single, you never know what they are thinking.

Not saying it's right or wrong, it just is.


Completely agree.......these situation can become very complicated!
2009-11-19 11:14 AM
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The weird thing about divorce is they run out and get remarried.....is it different the second time around????  or are the expections more clear????   Or is it that they are just older and wiser and sure of what they want???

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NRG42 - 2009-11-19 12:09 PM
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NRG42 - 2009-11-19 11:57 AM You are married not dead......


Doesn't mean you can't look, sure. In general, though, it is hard to get to know people of the opposite sex well because there's always the perception issues.  Plus, if the other person is single, you never know what they are thinking.

Not saying it's right or wrong, it just is.


Completely agree.......these situation can become very complicated!


I count myself lucky.  I've always had more friends that are guys.  My husband is understanding and it doesn't bother him.
2009-11-19 11:26 AM
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Artemis - 2009-11-19 11:14 AM
NRG42 - 2009-11-19 12:09 PM
Artemis - 2009-11-19 11:03 AM
NRG42 - 2009-11-19 11:57 AM You are married not dead......


Doesn't mean you can't look, sure. In general, though, it is hard to get to know people of the opposite sex well because there's always the perception issues.  Plus, if the other person is single, you never know what they are thinking.

Not saying it's right or wrong, it just is.


Completely agree.......these situation can become very complicated!


I count myself lucky.  I've always had more friends that are guys.  My husband is understanding and it doesn't bother him.


Same here.......


2009-11-19 11:29 AM
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It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.
2009-11-19 11:33 AM
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Aikidoman - 2009-11-19 11:29 AM

It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.


That's the breaks. Even a hint of impropriety is enough to make a married guy-single girl friendship impossible. It goes back to the old question, `Can men and women ever really be `just friends?'' I think they can because I have female friends I haven't yet fu**ed.

And really, the cool friend can hang out with us when I'm there. I won't complain.
2009-11-19 11:34 AM
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Artemis - 2009-11-19 11:09 AM
Johners - 2009-11-19 12:04 PM
ashort33 - 2009-11-19 10:53 AM

Artemis - 2009-11-19 10:50 AM
NRG42 - 2009-11-19 11:47 AM

Marriage has its benefits????



Yep.  Mostly tax related.

I missed those tax benefits somewhere...  There might be some other benefits though...



Ironically, probably the best benefit comes from divorce and bifurcated alimony.



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2009-11-19 11:37 AM
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Aikidoman - 2009-11-19 11:29 AM It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.
That's the breaks. Even a hint of impropriety is enough to make a married guy-single girl friendship impossible. It goes back to the old question, `Can men and women ever really be `just friends?'' I think they can because I have female friends I haven't yet fu**ed. And really, the cool friend can hang out with us when I'm there. I won't complain.


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2009-11-19 11:37 AM
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2009-11-19 11:38 AM
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I am reminded of a thought I had the other day.  Do they still sell chemistry sets?  I had a pretty big one as a kid and pulled off quite a few experiements.




Out of context, and that could sound pretty bad.

2009-11-19 11:38 AM
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mr2tony - 2009-11-19 11:33 AM
Aikidoman - 2009-11-19 11:29 AM It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.
That's the breaks. Even a hint of impropriety is enough to make a married guy-single girl friendship impossible. It goes back to the old question, `Can men and women ever really be `just friends?'' I think they can because I have female friends I haven't yet fu**ed. And really, the cool friend can hang out with us when I'm there. I won't complain.


But did you want to? That's the kicker.

I have a friend who is probably doing IMKS next year. A few of her guy friends said they would also do it and offered to train with her. She immediately said "no thanks" because she thinks it would be "disrespectful" to her husband to train alone with another guy. What does TAN think about that?
2009-11-19 11:41 AM
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lisac957 - 2009-11-19 9:38 AM
mr2tony - 2009-11-19 11:33 AM
Aikidoman - 2009-11-19 11:29 AM It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.
That's the breaks. Even a hint of impropriety is enough to make a married guy-single girl friendship impossible. It goes back to the old question, `Can men and women ever really be `just friends?'' I think they can because I have female friends I haven't yet fu**ed. And really, the cool friend can hang out with us when I'm there. I won't complain.


But did you want to? That's the kicker.

I have a friend who is probably doing IMKS next year. A few of her guy friends said they would also do it and offered to train with her. She immediately said "no thanks" because she thinks it would be "disrespectful" to her husband to train alone with another guy. What does TAN think about that?


Sounds like she knows how her relationship works with her husband and made her choice.
2009-11-19 11:42 AM
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mr2tony - 2009-11-19 11:33 AM
Aikidoman - 2009-11-19 11:29 AM It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.
That's the breaks. Even a hint of impropriety is enough to make a married guy-single girl friendship impossible. It goes back to the old question, `Can men and women ever really be `just friends?'' I think they can because I have female friends I haven't yet fu**ed. And really, the cool friend can hang out with us when I'm there. I won't complain.


The real question is..........if you are just friends and an opportunity was presented, from either party involved......would you have the will power to say "NO" this can't happen? and does the relationship change after the encounter?
2009-11-19 11:42 AM
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lisac957 - 2009-11-19 12:38 PM
mr2tony - 2009-11-19 11:33 AM
Aikidoman - 2009-11-19 11:29 AM It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.
That's the breaks. Even a hint of impropriety is enough to make a married guy-single girl friendship impossible. It goes back to the old question, `Can men and women ever really be `just friends?'' I think they can because I have female friends I haven't yet fu**ed. And really, the cool friend can hang out with us when I'm there. I won't complain.


But did you want to? That's the kicker.

I have a friend who is probably doing IMKS next year. A few of her guy friends said they would also do it and offered to train with her. She immediately said "no thanks" because she thinks it would be "disrespectful" to her husband to train alone with another guy. What does TAN think about that?

 

Hmmm,  not sure.  If it's someone I really like and have a lot in common with I'm sure there will probably be some curiousity. But maybe that's just me cause I'm a perv



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NRG42 - 2009-11-19 12:42 PM
mr2tony - 2009-11-19 11:33 AM
Aikidoman - 2009-11-19 11:29 AM It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.
That's the breaks. Even a hint of impropriety is enough to make a married guy-single girl friendship impossible. It goes back to the old question, `Can men and women ever really be `just friends?'' I think they can because I have female friends I haven't yet fu**ed. And really, the cool friend can hang out with us when I'm there. I won't complain.


The real question is..........if you are just friends and an opportunity was presented, from either party involved......would you have the will power to say "NO" this can't happen? and does the relationship change after the encounter?

Oh it would change. I've skills.

2009-11-19 11:44 AM
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SO... I'm thinking about Army Reserve Chaplaincy... anyone here been in the reserves?

2009-11-19 11:45 AM
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lisac957 - 2009-11-19 12:38 PM
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Aikidoman - 2009-11-19 11:29 AM It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.
That's the breaks. Even a hint of impropriety is enough to make a married guy-single girl friendship impossible. It goes back to the old question, `Can men and women ever really be `just friends?'' I think they can because I have female friends I haven't yet fu**ed. And really, the cool friend can hang out with us when I'm there. I won't complain.


But did you want to? That's the kicker.

I have a friend who is probably doing IMKS next year. A few of her guy friends said they would also do it and offered to train with her. She immediately said "no thanks" because she thinks it would be "disrespectful" to her husband to train alone with another guy. What does TAN think about that?


i kind of agree.  if she were to train in a group, still being the only female, i think it's a diff story, but all that time alone with someone is probably not right.  then again, i'm totally influenced by how i make decisions and it may or may not fit anyone else's goals/values.
2009-11-19 11:45 AM
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4 more hours untill vacation time...  (10 days).

I also have three weeks off in Dec.  Can't wait.
2009-11-19 11:46 AM
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lisac957 - 2009-11-19 11:38 AM

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Aikidoman - 2009-11-19 11:29 AM It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.
That's the breaks. Even a hint of impropriety is enough to make a married guy-single girl friendship impossible. It goes back to the old question, `Can men and women ever really be `just friends?'' I think they can because I have female friends I haven't yet fu**ed. And really, the cool friend can hang out with us when I'm there. I won't complain.


But did you want to? That's the kicker.

I have a friend who is probably doing IMKS next year. A few of her guy friends said they would also do it and offered to train with her. She immediately said "no thanks" because she thinks it would be "disrespectful" to her husband to train alone with another guy. What does TAN think about that?


In some cases yes in some cases no. Just because I WANT to have sex with someone doesn't mean it's inevitable. Shoot I can think of about 10 BT girls I wanna bang but that doesn't mean I'm going to go out and do it. I mean, I could now that I'm single, but some of them are married or have boyfriends so that's not an option. Therefore, just friends.

My FBI friends here, for example, I'd never touch them even though they're attractive women. I've never really even thought about it. I mean, I guess Tab P would fit into Slot V but really, they're just friends. I think of them the same way I think of my guy friends here, probably because I knew them before I was divorced.

Anyway I used to train with a young lady and her husband would get all huffy. And he was a very good friend of mine. My wife, on the other hand, didn't give a rat's butt. So it's all about the individual


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trixie - 2009-11-19 12:42 PM

Hmmm,  not sure.  If it's someone I really like and have a lot in common with I'm sure there will probably be some curiousity. But maybe that's just me cause I'm a perv

I told you Trix... you can trust me. I'm all holy and stuff...

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trixie - 2009-11-19 11:43 AM

NRG42 - 2009-11-19 12:42 PM
mr2tony - 2009-11-19 11:33 AM
Aikidoman - 2009-11-19 11:29 AM It's ok to have friends that are girls...

Maybe if I just said it. 

I know a girl (one of my wife's coworkers) and ran into her again (with my wife) and realized while talking that "this chick is REALLY cool".  IF I was single, a person I would not mind going out with and getting to know and hang out with.

However, I know my wife is amazing and I want to be with her.  There is NO question about that.

But I started to think, that there are probably a LOT of cool and fun and amazing people in this world that you would like to know more than just as an aquaintance.  It doesn't have to be romantic, but more than just a smile and handshake.  The problem is, once you are married, you can't just go ask someone out on a date!!!!

Does that make sense?  I have no desire to mess around, I'm SO happy.  But I do see the 'limitations' that a marriage imposes.
That's the breaks. Even a hint of impropriety is enough to make a married guy-single girl friendship impossible. It goes back to the old question, `Can men and women ever really be `just friends?'' I think they can because I have female friends I haven't yet fu**ed. And really, the cool friend can hang out with us when I'm there. I won't complain.


The real question is..........if you are just friends and an opportunity was presented, from either party involved......would you have the will power to say "NO" this can't happen? and does the relationship change after the encounter?

Oh it would change. I've skills.


I actually like change......
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akustix - 2009-11-19 11:44 AM

SO... I'm thinking about Army Reserve Chaplaincy... anyone here been in the reserves?



How old are you, if I may ask? Do they have age restrictions?

Lisa's boyfriend is an officer in the reserves.
2009-11-19 11:48 AM
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meherczeg - 2009-11-19 9:45 AM
i kind of agree.  if she were to train in a group, still being the only female, i think it's a diff story, but all that time alone with someone is probably not right.  then again, i'm totally influenced by how i make decisions and it may or may not fit anyone else's goals/values.


Group training is a different beast.  one on one is a bit different.  I bet I could do it a couple times but then I might start getting questions...

However, my wife does a lot of odd things for her career that would cause a lot questions for many marriages, but I understand the industry...  It also doesn't hurt that most of the guy dancers are gay! 
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