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spudone - 2010-12-29 2:34 PM So for those of you not in the Pacific Northwest -- what made you choose IMCdA?


I HATE OCEAN SWIMS SO MY FIRST CRITERIA WAS A LAKE OR RIVER SWIM.  SO THEN DID NOT WANT TO DO LP FOR 1ST IM DUE TO HILLS, SECOND DID NOT WANT LOUISVILLE DUE TO MISERABLE HEAT, DID NOT WANT TO TRAIN DURING THE SUMMER FOR AZ.  THIS LED ME TO CDA.  THEN I VOLUNTEERED AND LOVED THE AREA AND MY WIFES FAVORITE PLACE ON EARTH IS THE NORTHWEST AREA OF MONTANA.  CHOICE WAS EASY FOR ME.


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spudone - 2010-12-29 3:34 PM So for those of you not in the Pacific Northwest -- what made you choose IMCdA?


After IMLP this year, I was not ready the next day to sign up for another one.  It took some time to decide if I wanted to do it, and some negotiation with the family to make sure it was a good decision for us as a family.  By the time that happened, IMLP (closest to me) was closed, but CdA was still open.

My criteria for my ideal IM:
- good chance that it won't be blazing hot.
- some hills on the bike to help break up drafting (I do not want to be torn between letting a peleton zoom by and cheating).
- summer to fall to allow adequate time for outdoor training in DC area.
- bonus: easy travel on southwest airlines.
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Why IMCdA?

Well, I was signed up for IMFL for 2010 as my first IM distance when the oil spill occurred.  We were very concerned in early june that the swim was going to be completely fubar.  I considered registering for Rev3 Cedar Point or B2B 2010 as a IMFL backup as I wanted to do a real IM race and not just a long brick (which was my worst case scenario).  WTC was not forthcoming at all at that time regarding alternate swim venue plans.  But, in the back of my mind was the idea that the swim would be good to go, and that it would more than fool-hardy to do Rev3/B2B + IMFL within 2-3 month span.

So, with my daughter starting elementary school and the reticence to take long trips during the school year I decided to register for a summer 2011 IM race as my backup.  My options were IMCDA, IMUSA.  Of the two, CDA seemed easier to get into and seemed like a better destination race.
Plus the early summer date means that I won't be doing peak training in the middle of the heat of alabama for an august or early sept race.

I'm hoping that this will become a sort of awesome way to see the world with wife and kids.  We're talking about doing Cozumel 2012 and if the logistics of IMCDA are not insurmountable I believe we will.

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spudone - 2010-12-29 12:34 PM So for those of you not in the Pacific Northwest -- what made you choose IMCdA?


I've always wanted to do IM CdA.  I grew up in Spokane...so this is like my backyard, even though I live in CA now.  It's an insanely gorgeous area and my entire family can come watch without having to travel.  I'm really, really excited! 
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spudone - 2010-12-29 12:34 PM So for those of you not in the Pacific Northwest -- what made you choose IMCdA?


I'm really, really excited! 


I hadn't noticed.
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JoshKaptur - 2010-12-29 7:13 PM
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spudone - 2010-12-29 12:34 PM So for those of you not in the Pacific Northwest -- what made you choose IMCdA?


I'm really, really excited! 


I hadn't noticed.


Are you flipping me crap, mister?  Did you not see what I did to funkyd04? Tongue out 


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spudone - 2010-12-29 1:34 PM

So for those of you not in the Pacific Northwest -- what made you choose IMCdA?


When I got into tris last March, my biggest goal was to do the New York City triathlon, since that's where I grew up and getting up to Olympic distance seemed like such a huge deal at the time. A couple of months later, I started daydreaming about doing Lake Placid one day while running. Two months after that, I said why not make 2011 even bigger and more challenging than it was already going to be based on meeting a huge professional milestone (launching our spacecraft off to Jupiter in early August) and throw in an ironman too. At the time, CDA was still open, I liked what I read about the course, especially the multiple loops through town for my wife and son to watch, and I was on the way.

So I'm excited, not as excited as nerdjock, mind you, but somehow managing to slack less on training nonetheless.
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I know I asked about people outside the Pacific Northwest, which is where I am.  But I'm bringing friends this time

This'll be CdA #2 for me, which I chose the first time around mainly because it's within driving distance.  This year I have my brother and three other guys also joining - they're from Oregon, Idaho, Illinois, and Hawaii.  We could've settled on another race but the June date works out well for all of us.  Also how often do you get a bunch of people you already know to go sign up for an Ironman with you.  Pretty awesome.
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Why CDA?

 

Beautiful location. Living in CA, I wanted to stay on the west-ish coast. AZ is too flat and it just didn't hold any allure, plus it's such a late season race. With CDA, I can do CA 70.3 as a good warm-up and train from Jan. on.

I was in MT for a couple of years in the 80's going to school and we drove through CDA, thought it would be a good place to vacation with the family after the race...or event (not race) in my case. Pacing is key and nutrition, oh and training, and, and....

 

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thanks alot for the support josh, kstater, spudone etc. I think y'all are right. i just need some downtime for me to clear my head. im not ruling anything out. im just going to force myself to not think race for a bit. let things evolve and see where it goes.

the bit about burnout in your blog is so true josh. i need to be really cognizant of that. i love this sport too much to let it die out. thus some smart use of rest and recovery is in order. no more can i tempt fate and not allow myself down time.

and worse comes to worse, as you guys noted, its a helluva a vacation haha

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JoshKaptur - 2010-12-29 3:21 PM
spudone - 2010-12-29 3:34 PM So for those of you not in the Pacific Northwest -- what made you choose IMCdA?


After IMLP this year, I was not ready the next day to sign up for another one.  It took some time to decide if I wanted to do it, and some negotiation with the family to make sure it was a good decision for us as a family.  By the time that happened, IMLP (closest to me) was closed, but CdA was still open.

My criteria for my ideal IM:
- good chance that it won't be blazing hot.
- some hills on the bike to help break up drafting (I do not want to be torn between letting a peleton zoom by and cheating).
- summer to fall to allow adequate time for outdoor training in DC area.
- bonus: easy travel on southwest airlines.

^^^^ See bold.  Plus fly fishing.


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Hey all! Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas! I'm looking forward to the New Year! Had a good time with some family in TN for a White Christmas.

Why IMCdA? I've watched the past 2 years, on site, as friends tackled it and it's gorgeous. I figured it'd be a good challenge, and it works well into my schedule in that I get the summer off because of grad school.

So, my brother is getting married on 4th of July weekend (yay---after IMCdA) but because of that, the family get together that was going to happen at IMCdA isn't really happening now because it's happening at the wedding. My Mom may come out, and I may have a friend that decides to come out--but I have a house rented in Downtown CdA, less than a mile from finish line. It's this house: http://www.vrbo.com/234966. I am looking for other folks who might be interested in sharing.  PM me if you are and we can discuss.
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Well, I went with the HED Jet 6 C2 (60mm) for the front and Jet 9 C2 (90mm) for the back for my Christmas present.  Cheaper versus ZIPP, lighter than my current OEM wheels, and stronger for use now and then as a training wheel.  My 12-27 cassette is on order now. 

December training logs are final after my swim at lunch today.

Swim - 17 hours ~ 42,500 meters
Bike - 21 hours ~ 410 miles
Run- 19 hours ~ 149 miles

On another note, I've been looking at various CdA post race write-ups and race reports to learn/pick-up the little things as I don't have much tri experience.  I found this one interesting:  http://www.deltatriathlon.com/uploads/IMCDA_2007_Nasrin.pdf

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Hope you all have a great new year's eve and 2011!

December's totals:
Bike:9h 10m 56s  - 193.21 Mi
Run:14h 07m 23s  - 107.64 Mi
Swim:1h 00m 27s  - 2700 Yd
Strength:5h 21m

Crappy month. Sick, traveled far, and burned out a bit. Hopefully the trend goes back up in January. I think I am nearly done with the ravages of the bug that got me and got some mental clarity. Need to bring it like the above log ^^^

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Hi peolpe,

I understand burn-out & discouragement.
I understand injury & discouragement.
I understand rejection & disparagement.

I love swimming.
I love cycling.
I love running.
Triathlon is one cool sport.

We will do the best with which life has delt us.


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Happy Newyear everybody!

Train safe & smart.


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ironeric2010 - 2010-12-29 12:34 PM What's the drive time to glacier?  I think it's about 5 hours?
Had talked about doing that or taking the long haul down to yellowstone.

Regarding bike shipment....my thought was to use something like ironmanbikes and ship via fedex.  Although perusing the CDA website I noticed a big fat TBD on the "bike shipping options".  This is what was offered at IMFL this year and I thought something similar used to be on the CDA website.

Yes, the Ironman Bike Store offers full service bike repairs, assembly and disassembly of bikes that are shipped via FedEx, UPS or transported via air carrier. They will be staffed by expert bike technicians and stocked with a variety of merchandise.



I shipped my bike to IMLP 2010 and delivered to the bike store.   Just as easy as Tri Bike Transport (which I've used 3 times for IMAZ) but that wasn't offered for Seattle-to-Lake Placid.  The additional complexity was boxing my bike, but I already own an Ironcase so that was easy enough.  It takes me 30 minutes to pack my bike.

I expect they will remove the TBD and have a delivery address soon enough.

spudone - 2010-12-29 12:34 PM So for those of you not in the Pacific Northwest -- what made you choose IMCdA?


Well, I am from the Pacific Northwest but I've never done IMCDA before.  I choose IMCDA this year for several reasons. 

Timing was most important.  IM St. George wasn't going to work - I need to be in New York for my daughter's graduation May 18th.  IMLP I did last year, although late July is great.  I've raced IM Canada twice and (a) didn't want to do that again and (b) it interferes with the first day of school which is Monday after race day.  In 2009 we drove all night back to Bellevue so my daughter could be there for her first day of high school.  Race an Ironman, shower, grab some food, drive 300 miles overnight - it's just not as much fun as might think.  So IMCDA on 6/26 works out well.

Expenses will be lower and logistics should be easy, as easy as IMC but the drive is a bit longer.  I thought lodging would be easier, but it looks to be just as difficult.  We hope to rent a house or condo and make an early summer vacation of it.  Without flying, things are oh so much cheaper.

I have a number of local tri friends who are racing IMCDA and a number who have raced it before.  So knowing lots of people in the race (including some BTers, I hope) will be nice.

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Following (or trying to) the Iron Fit Intermediate plan for IMCDA. Want to do a warm-up HIM, but the one right here is town is 6 weeks prior to the race. Is this too close to the 140.6 to allow for proper recovery and finish the program? What about going at 75%?

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Gotta get my next marathon out of the way and step up these bike numbers big-time. Bring on 2011 and CDA training! WOOT!!!

Happy New Year, peeps!!

December's totals:
Bike:3h 47m 01s  - 58 Mi
Run:31h 20m 36s  - 200.15 Mi
Swim:35m  - 2000 Yd
Running Drills:42m
Yoga:1h 00m

2010 totals
Bike:206h 39m 44s  - 3059.89 Mi
Run:240h 19m 30s  - 1505.87 Mi
Swim:61h 06m 42s  - 205039 Yd
Strength:3h 37m
Massage:2h 30m
  
Running Drills:6h 03m
Walking:30m
Yoga:10h 00m
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jamesarr - 2011-01-01 8:20 AM Following (or trying to) the Iron Fit Intermediate plan for IMCDA. Want to do a warm-up HIM, but the one right here is town is 6 weeks prior to the race. Is this too close to the 140.6 to allow for proper recovery and finish the program? What about going at 75%?

Thanks for any advice.

Jim

Not sure I have "advice" per se, but some things to consider, Jim. I think it depends on your fitness level whether you can do a HIM 6 weeks out and if you're capable of restraining and only doing 75%. Sometimes it's tough to do that in the heat of a race. Those competitive juices start flowing and holding back just isn't an option in that moment. I know the build and recovery periods in an IM training program are important and if executed properly will take you up to the IM prepared and ready to roll. I guess if your build can coincide with the HIM and you don't peak for that race instead of IMCDA. Just some things to consider. Hope it helps.



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jamesarr - 2011-01-01 9:20 AM

Following (or trying to) the Iron Fit Intermediate plan for IMCDA. Want to do a warm-up HIM, but the one right here is town is 6 weeks prior to the race. Is this too close to the 140.6 to allow for proper recovery and finish the program? What about going at 75%?

Thanks for any advice.

Jim


Hi Jim,

I'm following the exact same plan, and six weeks out is right in the middle of the 5-6 hour long ride and 2-3 hour long run weekends, which is the peak of the plan. If you think you can recover in a week so you can make the full workouts the following weekend, then you're probably ok to go for it. Since you've already done a half, you should have a good idea how you are going to recover. If you aren't reasonably sure that you can keep it to one lost weekend of long workouts at that point in time, then I wouldn't do it. Since you've already run a half, I wouldn't view it as a necessity. Good luck with your training.
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Many thanks for the feedback.

After looking a little more closely at the program, and reviewing my post-race issues from Augusta I think I'll be able to do the HIM. Besides some tendonitis in my right foot, I was feeling pretty peppy by Friday following the race.

The local race is a hilly bike/run course. I'm sure if the race director could find a lake with some hills he'd be staging the race there. I think I'll be able to hold back as I'm really working on keeping my heart rate in the zone and letting the speed be what it is.

First timer at 140.6, and looking for a <14 hour finish as my stretch goal.
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jamesarr - 2011-01-01 11:20 AM Following (or trying to) the Iron Fit Intermediate plan for IMCDA. Want to do a warm-up HIM, but the one right here is town is 6 weeks prior to the race. Is this too close to the 140.6 to allow for proper recovery and finish the program? What about going at 75%?

Thanks for any advice.

Jim

A Half Iron 6 weeks out is perfect to test pacing and nutrition strategy for CDA. Should you find your plan inadequate you still have 3 weeks of training to straighten things out before the race.

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kkcbelle - 200 miles running - you go - wow!!!!!!  making some of us look bad when we were feeling good about our month.
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