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2011-12-08 4:16 PM in reply to: #3931762 |
Champion 10019 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Dating Just a quick vote for not judging someone by their age. Older or younger, you might find a lot in common with someone and it doesn't matter. I met my husband when I was 22 and he was 40 and we will be celebrating our 10th anniversary next March. He had never been married or had kids, so he lived the life of a young person (going out to bars to see bands on Tuesday nights, etc). We have a great time together and maturity is never a problem. I was mature 22 year old, starting my masters, living independently, etc. The only potential issue, as Renee pointed out, is children. Don't date a younger person without having a frank discussion about that. Edited by BikerGrrrl 2011-12-08 4:16 PM |
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2011-12-08 4:32 PM in reply to: #3931562 |
Pro 4824 Houston | Subject: RE: Dating mrbbrad - 2011-12-08 2:19 PM BrianRunsPhilly - 2011-12-08 2:15 PM I agree with Renee, especially when it comes to divorced people with kids. To not put them first is just plain selfish. Did Renee post that? I tried to find any reference to putting kids first but could not. If she did, I respectfully disagree with her and you .Hear me out; making children a priority is very important. Kids need their parents to look out for them, provide for them, guide them. But, children grow up. They leave home. They start their own lives. If a parent has no life of their own outside their children and constantly puts their children's needs/wants/wishes ahead of their own, that parent will end up very unhappy. Sacrifices? Sure. Concessions? Sure. Put children first ahead of all else? No. Not healthy for them or the parent. I was a divorced Mama with 2 boys when I married my husband. My boys were first until after we were married which I think is the way it should be. I dated a lot between husbands because I did not date before I got married the first time. I had oats to sew. My sons did not meet the men I dated. They did not meet my husband until we had been together for 9 months and I knew we had a future. I only dated when my boys were with their Dad. Obviously this is not an option for a parent who has sole custody. When we married my husband also said vows to the boys and gave them each an engraved cross. He was marrying all of us. We have been married 11 years. I still do the majority of parenting and discipline which is best for us. My husband is a wonderful father to all of our children and my boys are closer to him than his own father. I think the way we treated them during the courtship and beginning of our marriage is a huge part of that. I was a kid that met SEVERAL men my Mom dated and the same with my Dad. Each of these people came and went and then became yet another adult that abandoned me. This was not the experience I wanted my boys to have.
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2011-12-08 4:43 PM in reply to: #3930350 |
Member 113 colorado | Subject: RE: Dating I found it a little weird dating after being married for 18 years...and my husband isn't that crazy about it..but I think he is coming around. |
2011-12-08 5:16 PM in reply to: #3930350 |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: Dating Online dating is weird. I gave up on it. What's funny to me is how people look at you as if you have issues because you're 34 and have never been married. The dating pool in this city is VERY shallow and has entirely too much chlorine in it. |
2011-12-08 7:13 PM in reply to: #3931848 |
Pro 3932 Irvine, California | Subject: RE: Dating thebigb - 2011-12-08 3:16 PM Online dating is weird. I gave up on it. What's funny to me is how people look at you as if you have issues because you're 34 and have never been married. The dating pool in this city is VERY shallow and has entirely too much chlorine in it. Haha, wait until you're 46! I'm also taking a break from online dating. I haven't found anyone yet where there's mutual attraction. So instead, I'm trying to just focus on being a happier and better me. Life is too short to worry about what I don't have.
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2011-12-08 7:36 PM in reply to: #3930350 |
Pro 5755 | Subject: RE: Dating Well it's nice to know there's a bunch of us dealing with similar issues. Can you imagine what it would be like if we didn't have a time-intensive (and healthy!) hobby? And what would we do with all that excess income? Seriously, getting more active is one positive that came out of being single and happy. And maybe caring less what people actually think since I AM happy. Now, bring on the cute runners |
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2011-12-08 11:27 PM in reply to: #3930350 |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: Dating Can I toss in my night's latest text, it seems appropriate in this discussion. "I have a lot going on and things I need to figure out, I need to take a break from the dating scene." This was an hour after planning what to do on Saturday. Yeah, FML. I'm just going to marry my bike. Is it polygamy if I marry my running shoes as well? |
2011-12-09 2:38 AM in reply to: #3930350 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Dating Read this on Huffington Post on the way to work. It's a bit of a generalization (OK a HUGE generalization) but at the same time there are points that actually hold true. Not for all women or even most, but for SOME women ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tracy-mcmillan/why-youre-not-married_... Anyway take it with a grain of salt. It's purely fiction and meant to amuse. This woman doesn't, in my opine, have the credentials to give advice on how to find `the one' but she sure is entertaining in attempting to describe those who are looking. |
2011-12-09 6:27 AM in reply to: #3931658 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Dating ratherbeswimming - 2011-12-08 3:58 PM Live for you for a while. Let life happen. This is true for almost anyone, I will be using this advice with my oldest daughter. Thanks. |
2011-12-09 7:40 AM in reply to: #3930909 |
Master 1440 | Subject: RE: Dating cdban66 - 2011-12-08 10:28 AM I am quite grateful that my wife and I are still together after 25 years. I'm not sure I could do the dating thing. Once that pond has been fished out, I'm not sure you want what is left. Not in this town anyway X2 |
2011-12-09 8:38 AM in reply to: #3932104 |
Pro 5755 | Subject: RE: Dating mr2tony - 2011-12-09 3:38 AM Read this on Huffington Post on the way to work. It's a bit of a generalization (OK a HUGE generalization) but at the same time there are points that actually hold true. Not for all women or even most, but for SOME women ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tracy-mcmillan/why-youre-not-married_... Anyway take it with a grain of salt. It's purely fiction and meant to amuse. This woman doesn't, in my opine, have the credentials to give advice on how to find `the one' but she sure is entertaining in attempting to describe those who are looking. Hard to take her seriously seeing that she's living in LA, working in TV, was married 3 times, and is looking for #4. Seems like she is writing from experience. Any women (or man) who is looking that hard to get married has issues. Personally I just want to find someone compatible and enjoy life with them as equals. Except I'd still have to be a teeny bit faster |
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2011-12-09 8:41 AM in reply to: #3932074 |
Pro 5755 | Subject: RE: Dating thebigb - 2011-12-09 12:27 AM Can I toss in my night's latest text, it seems appropriate in this discussion. "I have a lot going on and things I need to figure out, I need to take a break from the dating scene." This was an hour after planning what to do on Saturday. Yeah, FML. I'm just going to marry my bike. Is it polygamy if I marry my running shoes as well? I'd say that's funny, but it's happened to me too. At that point you either reach for the scotch or hop on the bike. Do the running shoes count as dating twins? |
2011-12-09 8:48 AM in reply to: #3932104 |
Champion 17756 SoCal | Subject: RE: Dating mr2tony - 2011-12-09 12:38 AM Read this on Huffington Post on the way to work. It's a bit of a generalization (OK a HUGE generalization) but at the same time there are points that actually hold true. Not for all women or even most, but for SOME women ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tracy-mcmillan/why-youre-not-married_... Anyway take it with a grain of salt. It's purely fiction and meant to amuse. This woman doesn't, in my opine, have the credentials to give advice on how to find `the one' but she sure is entertaining in attempting to describe those who are looking. I totally agree with you, she is over generalizing and exaggerating but there are truths hidden in there and I enjoyed the piece for what it was. I really liked the last paragraph of piece. For me I was already married and I have kids so another marriage is not my goal. It's finding someone else compatible enough with me to share my life with. If marriage or whatever came out of that then ok but that’s not my end game. |
2011-12-09 8:57 AM in reply to: #3932216 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Dating verga - 2011-12-09 7:40 AM cdban66 - 2011-12-08 10:28 AM I am quite grateful that my wife and I are still together after 25 years. I'm not sure I could do the dating thing. Once that pond has been fished out, I'm not sure you want what is left. Not in this town anyway X2 I know you meant this tongue-in-cheek (or at least partially as a joke) but again, with the `being single means you're not desireable' rhetoric. This is why there's a 51 percent divorce rate in the U.S. People, at least where I'm from, get married just to be married because it's the societal norm or they're under pressure from friends, parents, etc. etc. etc. There's nothing wrong with being single. There's nothing wrong with people who choose not to marry, marry later in life or can't find someone they want to spend the rest of their life with. there's nothing wrong with someone (like me) who is married for a time and then isn't anymore. It still amazes me that people view singles as having something wrong with them, or in this case, unable to be ``fished'' out of the dating pool. |
2011-12-09 9:02 AM in reply to: #3930350 |
Master 2277 Lake Norman, NC | Subject: RE: Dating I always found dating to be quite easy and I think I know why... I think too many people focus on the "end-game". Whether it be having sex or getting into a relationship or find the "right partner" or even so long-term as "finding my future spouse". It causes you to put on an act. To work towards a goal. To try to impress and try too hard to "seal the deal". Some people actually "hunt for their soul-mate." Wow! Is THAT a high bar one sets for themself! I always just tried to have fun in the moment. To simply enjoy a good time and respect the women I was with. I wasn't thinking any farther ahead than just enjoying myself at that particular time. No acts. No games. No lines. Just, "let's have some fun together." You quickly get to know one another and what happens, just... happens. I don't think dating web sites are a good thing because it sets the tone for an end-goal of getting into a relationship or even marriage. I know it's worked for a lot of people and that's great. When people say, "they met over the Internet", sometimes the best ways is through a common interest web site like BT. Two people who enjoy triathlon, each other's company and things just develop and happen. To me, that's a better foundation. Of course I've been married 20 years now and I asked my wife to marry me 72 hours after we first met. So take my BS with a grain of salt.
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2011-12-09 9:01 AM in reply to: #3932325 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Dating mr2tony - 2011-12-09 10:57 PM verga - 2011-12-09 7:40 AM I know you meant this tongue-in-cheek (or at least partially as a joke) but again, with the `being single means you're not desireable' rhetoric. This is why there's a 51 percent divorce rate in the U.S. People, at least where I'm from, get married just to be married because it's the societal norm or they're under pressure from friends, parents, etc. etc. etc.cdban66 - 2011-12-08 10:28 AM I am quite grateful that my wife and I are still together after 25 years. I'm not sure I could do the dating thing. Once that pond has been fished out, I'm not sure you want what is left. Not in this town anyway X2 There's nothing wrong with being single. There's nothing wrong with people who choose not to marry, marry later in life or can't find someone they want to spend the rest of their life with. there's nothing wrong with someone (like me) who is married for a time and then isn't anymore. It still amazes me that people view singles as having something wrong with them, or in this case, unable to be ``fished'' out of the dating pool. So utterly bingo. I actually dig it. And though I've danced with my share of piglets the last 18 months, I've still spent the vast majority of it not only single, but alone at home. And I've learned to love it, to love myself in different ways (think what you will about that), to enjoy my own company. Yeah, it's a little odd when all of your friends are married/together, but I'm odd anyway. So what? |
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2011-12-09 9:05 AM in reply to: #3932325 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Dating mr2tony - 2011-12-09 10:57 PM verga - 2011-12-09 7:40 AM I know you meant this tongue-in-cheek (or at least partially as a joke) but again, with the `being single means you're not desireable' rhetoric. This is why there's a 51 percent divorce rate in the U.S. People, at least where I'm from, get married just to be married because it's the societal norm or they're under pressure from friends, parents, etc. etc. etc.cdban66 - 2011-12-08 10:28 AM I am quite grateful that my wife and I are still together after 25 years. I'm not sure I could do the dating thing. Once that pond has been fished out, I'm not sure you want what is left. Not in this town anyway X2 There's nothing wrong with being single. There's nothing wrong with people who choose not to marry, marry later in life or can't find someone they want to spend the rest of their life with. there's nothing wrong with someone (like me) who is married for a time and then isn't anymore. It still amazes me that people view singles as having something wrong with them, or in this case, unable to be ``fished'' out of the dating pool. So utterly bingo. I actually dig it. And though I've danced with my share of piglets the last 18 months, I've still spent the vast majority of it not only single, but alone at home. And I've learned to love it, to love myself in different ways (think what you will about that), to enjoy my own company. Yeah, it's a little odd when all of your friends are married/together, but I'm odd anyway. So what? |
2011-12-09 9:07 AM in reply to: #3932334 |
Pro 6191 | Subject: RE: Dating Bigfuzzydoug - 2011-12-09 10:02 AM I always found dating to be quite easy and I think I know why... I think too many people focus on the "end-game". Whether it be having sex or getting into a relationship or find the "right partner" or even so long-term as "finding my future spouse". It causes you to put on an act. To work towards a goal. To try to impress and try too hard to "seal the deal". Some people actually "hunt for their soul-mate." Wow! Is THAT a high bar one sets for themself! I always just tried to have fun in the moment. To simply enjoy a good time and respect the women I was with. I wasn't thinking any farther ahead than just enjoying myself at that particular time. No acts. No games. No lines. Just, "let's have some fun together." You quickly get to know one another and what happens, just... happens. I don't think dating web sites are a good thing because it sets the tone for an end-goal of getting into a relationship or even marriage. I know it's worked for a lot of people and that's great. When people say, "they met over the Internet", sometimes the best ways is through a common interest web site like BT. Two people who enjoy triathlon, each other's company and things just develop and happen. To me, that's a better foundation. Of course I've been married 20 years now and I asked my wife to marry me 72 hours after we first met. So take my BS with a grain of salt. Excellent attitude, not just for dating, but for life. We think the same way |
2011-12-09 9:15 AM in reply to: #3932338 |
Pro 5755 | Subject: RE: Dating TriAya - 2011-12-09 10:05 AM mr2tony - 2011-12-09 10:57 PM verga - 2011-12-09 7:40 AM I know you meant this tongue-in-cheek (or at least partially as a joke) but again, with the `being single means you're not desireable' rhetoric. This is why there's a 51 percent divorce rate in the U.S. People, at least where I'm from, get married just to be married because it's the societal norm or they're under pressure from friends, parents, etc. etc. etc.cdban66 - 2011-12-08 10:28 AM I am quite grateful that my wife and I are still together after 25 years. I'm not sure I could do the dating thing. Once that pond has been fished out, I'm not sure you want what is left. Not in this town anyway X2 There's nothing wrong with being single. There's nothing wrong with people who choose not to marry, marry later in life or can't find someone they want to spend the rest of their life with. there's nothing wrong with someone (like me) who is married for a time and then isn't anymore. It still amazes me that people view singles as having something wrong with them, or in this case, unable to be ``fished'' out of the dating pool. So utterly bingo. I actually dig it. And though I've danced with my share of piglets the last 18 months, I've still spent the vast majority of it not only single, but alone at home. And I've learned to love it, to love myself in different ways (think what you will about that), to enjoy my own company. Yeah, it's a little odd when all of your friends are married/together, but I'm odd anyway. So what? If you're not happy with yourself when you're alone, how happy are you really going be with someone else? "Dances with Piglets" - what a great potential movie title. |
2011-12-09 9:20 AM in reply to: #3932342 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Dating ratherbeswimming - 2011-12-09 9:07 AM Bigfuzzydoug - 2011-12-09 10:02 AM I always found dating to be quite easy and I think I know why... I think too many people focus on the "end-game". Whether it be having sex or getting into a relationship or find the "right partner" or even so long-term as "finding my future spouse". It causes you to put on an act. To work towards a goal. To try to impress and try too hard to "seal the deal". Some people actually "hunt for their soul-mate." Wow! Is THAT a high bar one sets for themself! I always just tried to have fun in the moment. To simply enjoy a good time and respect the women I was with. I wasn't thinking any farther ahead than just enjoying myself at that particular time. No acts. No games. No lines. Just, "let's have some fun together." You quickly get to know one another and what happens, just... happens. I don't think dating web sites are a good thing because it sets the tone for an end-goal of getting into a relationship or even marriage. I know it's worked for a lot of people and that's great. When people say, "they met over the Internet", sometimes the best ways is through a common interest web site like BT. Two people who enjoy triathlon, each other's company and things just develop and happen. To me, that's a better foundation. Of course I've been married 20 years now and I asked my wife to marry me 72 hours after we first met. So take my BS with a grain of salt. Excellent attitude, not just for dating, but for life. We think the same way There should be no destination in a relationship. Relationships aren't road trips, they're around-the-world jaunts that, if all goes well, should never end. Unfortunately too many people have a goal in mind and if they don't reach that goal they jump off the boat. My college roommate had a girlfriend who told him to, and I quote, ``sh*t or get off the pot.'' So in other words, marry me or leave me. He left. Smart man. |
2011-12-09 9:21 AM in reply to: #3932325 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Dating mr2tony - 2011-12-09 9:57 AM verga - 2011-12-09 7:40 AM cdban66 - 2011-12-08 10:28 AM I am quite grateful that my wife and I are still together after 25 years. I'm not sure I could do the dating thing. Once that pond has been fished out, I'm not sure you want what is left. Not in this town anyway X2 I know you meant this tongue-in-cheek (or at least partially as a joke) but again, with the `being single means you're not desireable' rhetoric. This is why there's a 51 percent divorce rate in the U.S. People, at least where I'm from, get married just to be married because it's the societal norm or they're under pressure from friends, parents, etc. etc. etc. There's nothing wrong with being single. There's nothing wrong with people who choose not to marry, marry later in life or can't find someone they want to spend the rest of their life with. there's nothing wrong with someone (like me) who is married for a time and then isn't anymore. It still amazes me that people view singles as having something wrong with them, or in this case, unable to be ``fished'' out of the dating pool. You are right, I apologize for my poor analogy. I didn't mean this as a knock on single people or being single. As a matter of fact, my eldest daughter is going through some stuff and I keep telling her to figure out who she is, enjoy her time, learn what she wants to do & be. Then later she can figure out what she is looking for in a partner, or if she even wants to find a partner. There is a large benefit from knowing yourself before you try to add someone else to the mix. I am impressed by the fact that many of the people in this thread have mentioned that same type of thing. I would also subscribe to the theory that when you are not looking for "that special someone", then you find them. I really liked one poster's statement to "Let life happen". |
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2011-12-09 10:00 AM in reply to: #3932363 |
Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Dating mr2tony - 2011-12-09 9:20 AM There should be no destination in a relationship. Relationships aren't road trips, they're around-the-world jaunts that, if all goes well, should never end. Unfortunately too many people have a goal in mind and if they don't reach that goal they jump off the boat. My college roommate had a girlfriend who told him to, and I quote, ``sh*t or get off the pot.'' So in other words, marry me or leave me. He left. Smart man. Buuuuut..... Otherwise, that's called stringing the other person along. |
2011-12-09 10:09 AM in reply to: #3932430 |
Pro 4612 MA | Subject: RE: Dating lisac957 - 2011-12-09 11:00 AM mr2tony - 2011-12-09 9:20 AM There should be no destination in a relationship. Relationships aren't road trips, they're around-the-world jaunts that, if all goes well, should never end. Unfortunately too many people have a goal in mind and if they don't reach that goal they jump off the boat. My college roommate had a girlfriend who told him to, and I quote, ``sh*t or get off the pot.'' So in other words, marry me or leave me. He left. Smart man. Buuuuut..... Otherwise, that's called stringing the other person along. Yeah, I think there should be a middle ground. It is really rare for one to know immediately if you're going to spend a alife time with another person with just a few meetings - the only successful story I heard about is BigFuzzyDoug. it takes time to get to know someone. So give yourself the opportunity to observe. I agree that "at some point you have to take a hard look at the relationship and decide if it's something you want to commit to..", but this "point" should not be at the very beginning. In fact, I don't even consider the first few dates a "relationship". It is just a "getting to know each other" phase. But what do I know. I have not gone on a date for the past 4 years of my single life, and before that I had a BF for 9 years.
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2011-12-09 10:22 AM in reply to: #3932430 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Dating lisac957 - 2011-12-09 10:00 AM mr2tony - 2011-12-09 9:20 AM There should be no destination in a relationship. Relationships aren't road trips, they're around-the-world jaunts that, if all goes well, should never end. Unfortunately too many people have a goal in mind and if they don't reach that goal they jump off the boat. My college roommate had a girlfriend who told him to, and I quote, ``sh*t or get off the pot.'' So in other words, marry me or leave me. He left. Smart man. Buuuuut..... Otherwise, that's called stringing the other person along. Open dialouge is very important as are expectations. My friend, for example, wasn't ready to get married. She was. They broke up. Which is fine -- they wanted different things. He didn't string her along, she didn't stay with him just to not be single. The problem with them is that they didn't have open dialogue. It's my opine that she did just what the author of that article described, his then-girlfriend stayed with him and played his game thinking she could change him until one day it just came to a head. Had they had that conversation in the beginning or developed the dialogue as time went on, it never would've come to such a heated ending. Now, had he told her he'd marry her eventually with no intentions of doing so, then THAT would be stringing her along. |
2011-12-09 10:31 AM in reply to: #3932104 |
Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Dating mr2tony - 2011-12-09 2:38 AM Read this on Huffington Post on the way to work. It's a bit of a generalization (OK a HUGE generalization) but at the same time there are points that actually hold true. Not for all women or even most, but for SOME women ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tracy-mcmillan/why-youre-not-married_... Anyway take it with a grain of salt. It's purely fiction and meant to amuse. This woman doesn't, in my opine, have the credentials to give advice on how to find `the one' but she sure is entertaining in attempting to describe those who are looking. I absolutely love this article. No need to caveat it so heavily - some serous grains of truth in there, probably for a lot of us. |
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