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gravesjo - 2010-08-11 4:42 AM Hey all!
Haven't been on for a while.  Sorry to hear that Mikerunkle and Thegomer won't be joinging us.  I can't imagine having to refocus my attention to another race at this point, but kudos to you both for seeming to take it in stride. 

I'm all for the hat (a vote for light colored too) or a t-shirt.  Im pretty easy.   

Quick question/ advice....I did a long brick this past weekend (2 mile swim, 50 mile bike, and a 6 mile run).  Swim and bike were awesome but about the last 5 miles of the bike and the entire run, the naseau had set in.  My legs felt good and I wasn't lacking energy per se just felt like i wanted to throw up.  Im guessing nutrition issues.  I've been using Infinit nutrition, about 1 200 kcal bottle per hour plus a sleeve of 200 kcal Cliff Shot bloks.  By the end of the bike I just wanted water, everthing was getting too sweet for me.  Is there such thing as too many calories?  If I dilute my nutrition then Im not getting enough calories.  I think I was nervous about bonking so I ate and drank as much as I could handle while still trying to be regimented about it.  All in all I was happy with the day as I know now my muscles are ready for my HIM in Sept if I can just figured out how to feed them with out off my stomach. 

Off to Illinois to visit friends today and get in some nice long flat FL style riding.   

Take care

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Welcome to the 4th sport of triathlon.  I had the exact issue at IMLouisville last year.  And I walked 10 miles of the 26.2....It was not fun!  It could be to many calories, but what i've learned recently is that it can also be hydration.  If you don't have enough water in your stomach to help break down your infint then it can cause issues.  I am still working through it and trying to figure it out so i don't have a repeat of last year at floirda this year.

P.S. You don't need as many calories as you may think.  I've made it through a HIM feeling great all the way through with a total of about 500 calories for the whole day. I'm 5'10" and 165lbs.  Now if I was doing a full I would have been getting low, but for a 1/2 that worked fine for me.



2010-08-11 1:49 PM
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mroudabush - 2010-08-11 7:39 AM Planning ahead for 2011 and IMFl is on the list.  Anyone know how long general entry was open on the web(minutes?) or is the best way to get in by volunteering?

Thanks for your time


I registered on-line and had two computers ready to go right at the start time, I used one and my wife used the other, the first one in was the registration I went with.  Ended up not being an issue and my brother-in-law got in on-line as well.  I think as long as you are on-line and ready when the timing starts, you should be fine, but man was I anxious that morning.

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gravesjo - 2010-08-11 4:42 AM Hey all!
Haven't been on for a while.  Sorry to hear that Mikerunkle and Thegomer won't be joinging us.  I can't imagine having to refocus my attention to another race at this point, but kudos to you both for seeming to take it in stride. 

I'm all for the hat (a vote for light colored too) or a t-shirt.  Im pretty easy.   

Quick question/ advice....I did a long brick this past weekend (2 mile swim, 50 mile bike, and a 6 mile run).  Swim and bike were awesome but about the last 5 miles of the bike and the entire run, the naseau had set in.  My legs felt good and I wasn't lacking energy per se just felt like i wanted to throw up.  Im guessing nutrition issues.  I've been using Infinit nutrition, about 1 200 kcal bottle per hour plus a sleeve of 200 kcal Cliff Shot bloks.  By the end of the bike I just wanted water, everthing was getting too sweet for me.  Is there such thing as too many calories?  If I dilute my nutrition then Im not getting enough calories.  I think I was nervous about bonking so I ate and drank as much as I could handle while still trying to be regimented about it.  All in all I was happy with the day as I know now my muscles are ready for my HIM in Sept if I can just figured out how to feed them with out off my stomach. 

Off to Illinois to visit friends today and get in some nice long flat FL style riding.   

Take care

Justin 

 

Welcome to the 4th sport of triathlon.  I had the exact issue at IMLouisville last year.  And I walked 10 miles of the 26.2....It was not fun!  It could be to many calories, but what i've learned recently is that it can also be hydration.  If you don't have enough water in your stomach to help break down your infint then it can cause issues.  I am still working through it and trying to figure it out so i don't have a repeat of last year at floirda this year.

P.S. You don't need as many calories as you may think.  I've made it through a HIM feeling great all the way through with a total of about 500 calories for the whole day. I'm 5'10" and 165lbs.  Now if I was doing a full I would have been getting low, but for a 1/2 that worked fine for me.



This is what I was going to say.  Make sure you are drinking enough water otherwise you can't digest those carbs.
2010-08-11 11:43 PM
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THanks for the advice.  That makes sense.  I was kinda thinking that as long as I could tolerated it I would pack in the calories.  Obviously I didn't tolerate it but at least I didn't throw up.  Sorry to here about your ordeal, sounds miserable.  

 
2010-08-12 5:16 AM
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Keep track of how many calories you took in, how much hydration you consumed, what type of ride you did, weather conditions and what happened. All this can help you figure out what works and doesn't going forward and 2 months or 2 years from now you won't remember exactly what happened.

If you used concentrated nutrition the carb % could have been to high unless you were chasing it with water in the right ratio.

I find when it is hot or I ride with more intensity I need to back off calorie intake some.

If you used infinite call them from what I have heard from others they are quite good at problem solving and making suggestions so it works better in the future.
2010-08-12 9:48 AM
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Love the logo, would buy a hat for sure and a shirt.  One can never have too many head sweats hats!! I really don't have time to coordinate so thanks to anyone who does this!!

I have my swim coach back so YAY swimming is fun again,.  They had some coaching changes at the swim club a few times now but now we get her back instead of the gnew guy who failed to bring his personality to practice and well is a bit pf a prat in my opinion.  My bike is getting mroe and more solid and my run sucks but what is new really.  My current plan is to make the swim and bike feel easy to minimize the suffering on the run. 



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What training is everyone doing this weekend?

Normally I do long stuff during the week but this weekend due to travel Saturday I'm doing 2.5 hour ride with my husband on a new bike course of an Oly we are doing end of the month and swim in race pond. Sunday is 4 hour ride and 40' run.

Have fun everyone...weather looks great for training here in MA!
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I did a 2 hour run today in the Houston heat.  Tomorrow a 3000 meter swim.  Sunday a 4 hour ride + 1 hour run.
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I'll be swimming tonight, Doing a shorter ish run tomorrow morning, then I have to move into a new apartment. Sunday will be a long run with a long bike on Monday.
2010-08-13 5:21 PM
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I've got an open water swim and long run tomorrow and then a long bike (5 hrs) on Sunday. Woo hoooooo.... Looking forward to it!!
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brick tomorrow - 100 km ride, 10 km run
long run on sunday - 18 km.

ETA - Apparently Tara Costa from the Biggest Loser is now going to be doing Ironman Florida.

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im doing an oly locally saturday and have nothing on the schedule sunday. perhaps shanks will have me swim long? this is a recovery week so its been paltry...
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hello all.  6 hour ride tomorrow, 3 hour ride/45' run on sunday...planning on getting on the bike about 5:30 tomorrow so my face doesn't melt off in that 6th hour!  My client informed me we are 84 days out!!!  Time to get bizzy and focus   Be safe out there!!
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Mimir98 - 2010-08-13 7:31 PM hello all.  6 hour ride tomorrow, 3 hour ride/45' run on sunday...planning on getting on the bike about 5:30 tomorrow so my face doesn't melt off in that 6th hour!  My client informed me we are 84 days out!!!  Time to get bizzy and focus   Be safe out there!!

hope you didn't melt.  I went to the super market and almost threw up in the parking lot it was so hot.  You will rock it of course  

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Just reading everyone's workout plans is motivating for some strange reason.  I'll go with it.   Got in a 4 hour ride and 1 hour run.   Just went with the Infinit nutrition  (~1 bottle an hour) and extra water.  No extra food.  Worked out nicely!  Only pace limiting factor was the oppressive heat, which hopefully will be far away from florida.  

Tara Costa doing IMFL huh?.  Something tells me she's going to kick my butt.  I remember her being really obsessive about her workouts on the show.  Oh well, I'll wish her well as she goes by.  

 
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I won't be doing any major workouts this weekend.   Sitting here in my room in Iraq looking at my bike case....with the bike  all packed up inside!

Should be home in a week and hopefully the bike follows shortly after!

At least Tara probably isn't in my AG...I think she's in 25-29 most likely.  I think she was 27 on the show...


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Weekend:
I did an F-1 draft legal triathlon today.  Finished in 2 hrs.  Then swam an extra 800 in the lake.

The F1 race was two 400M loops in the lake, followed by 10 mi bike, 3.2 mi run, another 10 mi bike, another 3.2 run.  It was fun.  Lot's of transitions.  both the second bike and second run were much easier than I thought they'd be.

Tomorrow's plan is a 60 mile loop in the mountains of New Mexico.  Probably 4 to 5 hours or so.  Don't think I'll brick off it.  Had some good running today.  -pretty much as hard as I could for two 1/2 hr sessions seperated by a 10 mile bike.
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This past week was the first week of my 13 week plan.   It called for a 1:30 bike and 1:00 swim yesterday and a 1:30 run today.  I didn't feel well, so finished the bike, but cut the swim off at 30 min.  Today I'm truly sick with what seems like a sinus infection and a fever, so I had to skip the run completely.  I'm just resting as much as possible, and hope to feel well enough to do the run tomorrow, because it was a scheduled rest day.  Cry
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Relaxing weekend out of town with hubby . Gotta keep my #1 Sponsor and support crew happy. I was able to get in a few OWS this weekend.

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jashac is a bear! i did a stupid local olympic instead of going long this week and now im in a world of soreness, all for a stupid medal. I left tri-ghost to his own devices for his Sunday century and 5 miler t-run. I am not sure it was worth it.

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jashac is a bear! i did a stupid local olympic instead of going long this week and now im in a world of soreness, all for a stupid medal. I left tri-ghost to his own devices for his Sunday century and 5 miler t-run. I am not sure it was worth it.

FWIW to you who are near to Augusta or doing Augusta and not on the Augusta message board yet, this is a cross post:

Check out enduranceconcepts.com for their planned swim/run on Sunday the 22nd from the Augusta boathouse at 7:30 am. Coach Jim Christian may be coordinating that as he is out of Augusta. Should be well run if its done like last year.

FWIW me and tri-ghost and perhaps some others are only doing the swim. Then we are going off to do a drop bike ride@high18s-19mph of the Augusta bike course TWICE stopping at the boathouse after the first loop to refill bottles etc. Anyone who thinks they can hang is more than welcome.


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Morning all, I have a gear conundrum,

The bike I plan on using for IMFL has a 50/36 FSA carbon compact crankset, I live in a particularly hilly area.

For IMFL I believe I need something a little larger. the largest FSA compact (110BCD) chainring is a 52T.

So for the questions, will a 52T work with the smaller 36T or is this too much of a gap - does this even matter as I don't anticipate using the smalll ring anyways during IMFL. Cost of the 52T is about $50 (a matching 38T is $40)

OR  Should I get a standard crankset 53/39 - can get an aluminium FSA Gossamer for $90.

Are there any other options I'm not considering?

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I did a 4 hour bike/45 min run Saturday and a 9mile run Sunday morning followed by an hour spin on the trainer Sunday evening.  I feel pretty good overall.  Wore the compression socks some when I was at home.

 
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Millarg, I have the same issue as you, but in reverse. I bought my P3 with IMFL in mind and it has a 'standard' 53/39, but I live in a hilly area so my other road bike has a compact on it. My issue is that I am doing a HIM on a course with a couple of big hills but want to use the P3. I talked to my bike shop and they suggested simply swapping the two over would give the best result and the least hassle, so I would think that if you can get hold of a 53/39 for a sensible price then that would probably be the easiest option - although I wouldn't claim to be a bike expert so am happy to be corrected by anyone more knowledgeable
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jldicarlo - 2010-08-14 7:02 PM I won't be doing any major workouts this weekend.   Sitting here in my room in Iraq looking at my bike case....with the bike  all packed up inside!

Should be home in a week and hopefully the bike follows shortly after!

At least Tara probably isn't in my AG...I think she's in 25-29 most likely.  I think she was 27 on the show...

YAY FOR JEN COMING HOME!!!! WHOOP WHOOP

I dont' watch BL so I have no idea who this chiqa is.  Old ladies with walkers pass me on the run so I feel quite confident that who ever she is she will probably kick my butt as well.

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