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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm just shaking my head...seriously? She has a 2 year old that she obviously wasn't supervising, and she has the nerve to sue the restaurant when the unsupervised child put something in their mouth? Cue John Stossel...give me a break! |
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![]() Kido - 2013-03-14 12:46 PM I'm hungry. McDonalds anyone? Condom on the side, please.
You just gave me an idea.
The Condom Cone,,,,,, |
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![]() mr2tony - 2013-03-14 2:53 PM Kido - 2013-03-14 4:47 PM No can do -- despite what people think I'm not on welfare and I have a job and tonight I must stay later than usual. I know, bunk, but that's the way the condom fits. mr2tony - 2013-03-14 2:38 PM Cruse you're getting more curmudgeonly every day. Now ... GET OFF MY LAWN!!! It's almost 5 there. Go home already.
Well, let me this about that, you are immature and I don't have to get off the lawn! So there! I think you should sue your employer, for,,,, oh it doesn't matter make something up.... nobody should have to work that much,,,,,,, it just not fair. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() crusevegas - 2013-03-14 6:58 PM mr2tony - 2013-03-14 2:53 PM Kido - 2013-03-14 4:47 PM No can do -- despite what people think I'm not on welfare and I have a job and tonight I must stay later than usual. I know, bunk, but that's the way the condom fits. mr2tony - 2013-03-14 2:38 PM Cruse you're getting more curmudgeonly every day. Now ... GET OFF MY LAWN!!! It's almost 5 there. Go home already.
Well, let me this about that, you are immature and I don't have to get off the lawn! So there! I think you should sue your employer, for,,,, oh it doesn't matter make something up.... nobody should have to work that much,,,,,,, it just not fair. You knew that already! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2013-03-14 2:37 PM WHAT? They do? Why didn't anyone tell me! I always had to sheepishly buy them from Walgreens and avoid eye contact with the old lady cashier. I also always got a pack of gum too. Can't go in and JUST buy condoms. According to the kid in the story, aren't they one and the same?--you could save some money.... |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() lifejustice - 2013-03-14 7:02 PM Would you make up your mind, exactly whcih of the dwarves are you?I started this thread angry. Then I went for a run. Now I am reading this and laughing. Sorry for being a grump. |
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![]() mr2tony - 2013-03-14 5:51 PM crusevegas - 2013-03-14 6:58 PM You knew that already!mr2tony - 2013-03-14 2:53 PM Kido - 2013-03-14 4:47 PM No can do -- despite what people think I'm not on welfare and I have a job and tonight I must stay later than usual. I know, bunk, but that's the way the condom fits. mr2tony - 2013-03-14 2:38 PM Cruse you're getting more curmudgeonly every day. Now ... GET OFF MY LAWN!!! It's almost 5 there. Go home already.
Well, let me this about that, you are immature and I don't have to get off the lawn! So there! I think you should sue your employer, for,,,, oh it doesn't matter make something up.... nobody should have to work that much,,,,,,, it just not fair. I'm nothing if not master of the obvious. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2013-03-14 5:23 PM Sous - 2013-03-14 11:39 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know.
New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
I think the point was that someone without kids can't really speak authoritatively about parenting... not that they can't have opinions about kids. There is a difference. BTW, what exactly is a "fighting dog" is that kinda like an "assault weapon". Seeing, you know, that any dog can be raised to be a fighting dog, and any gun can be used in an assault. GREAT point about the dog, though. Cuz you know, it's just as common to fight Shih Tzus, Teapot Yorkies, and Beagles in the ring as Pit Bulls and Rottweilers. I can see how you can get them mixed up. And the dogs/guns argument is spot on - same thing for sure. Not that I trust wiki all the time, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds Yea and you know that ferocious killer Petey was pit bull too. That day he went wild and mauled Spanky, Alfalfa, and Buckwheat to death will still haunt me forever. |
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Sensei ![]() | ![]() Sous - 2013-03-15 6:04 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 5:23 PM Sous - 2013-03-14 11:39 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know.
New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
I think the point was that someone without kids can't really speak authoritatively about parenting... not that they can't have opinions about kids. There is a difference. BTW, what exactly is a "fighting dog" is that kinda like an "assault weapon". Seeing, you know, that any dog can be raised to be a fighting dog, and any gun can be used in an assault. GREAT point about the dog, though. Cuz you know, it's just as common to fight Shih Tzus, Teapot Yorkies, and Beagles in the ring as Pit Bulls and Rottweilers. I can see how you can get them mixed up. And the dogs/guns argument is spot on - same thing for sure. Not that I trust wiki all the time, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds Yea and you know that ferocious killer Petey was pit bull too. That day he went wild and mauled Spanky, Alfalfa, and Buckwheat to death will still haunt me forever. It astounds me you don't get that there are certain breeds suited for fighting because of temperament and physical attributes. No point in a discussion with someone who doesn't understand simple concepts, so I'm done. Enjoy your black and white world with no exceptions or grey area. Lack of common sense must be liberating. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2013-03-15 12:30 PM Sous - 2013-03-15 6:04 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 5:23 PM Sous - 2013-03-14 11:39 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know.
New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
I think the point was that someone without kids can't really speak authoritatively about parenting... not that they can't have opinions about kids. There is a difference. BTW, what exactly is a "fighting dog" is that kinda like an "assault weapon". Seeing, you know, that any dog can be raised to be a fighting dog, and any gun can be used in an assault. GREAT point about the dog, though. Cuz you know, it's just as common to fight Shih Tzus, Teapot Yorkies, and Beagles in the ring as Pit Bulls and Rottweilers. I can see how you can get them mixed up. And the dogs/guns argument is spot on - same thing for sure. Not that I trust wiki all the time, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds Yea and you know that ferocious killer Petey was pit bull too. That day he went wild and mauled Spanky, Alfalfa, and Buckwheat to death will still haunt me forever. It astounds me you don't get that there are certain breeds suited for fighting because of temperament and physical attributes. No point in a discussion with someone who doesn't understand simple concepts, so I'm done. Enjoy your black and white world with no exceptions or grey area. Lack of common sense must be liberating. Any dog of any breed can be trained and made into a fighter, the question is can they win. |
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Sensei ![]() | ![]() trinnas - 2013-03-15 9:37 AM Kido - 2013-03-15 12:30 PM Sous - 2013-03-15 6:04 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 5:23 PM Sous - 2013-03-14 11:39 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know.
New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
I think the point was that someone without kids can't really speak authoritatively about parenting... not that they can't have opinions about kids. There is a difference. BTW, what exactly is a "fighting dog" is that kinda like an "assault weapon". Seeing, you know, that any dog can be raised to be a fighting dog, and any gun can be used in an assault. GREAT point about the dog, though. Cuz you know, it's just as common to fight Shih Tzus, Teapot Yorkies, and Beagles in the ring as Pit Bulls and Rottweilers. I can see how you can get them mixed up. And the dogs/guns argument is spot on - same thing for sure. Not that I trust wiki all the time, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds Yea and you know that ferocious killer Petey was pit bull too. That day he went wild and mauled Spanky, Alfalfa, and Buckwheat to death will still haunt me forever. It astounds me you don't get that there are certain breeds suited for fighting because of temperament and physical attributes. No point in a discussion with someone who doesn't understand simple concepts, so I'm done. Enjoy your black and white world with no exceptions or grey area. Lack of common sense must be liberating. Any dog of any breed can be trained and made into a fighter, the question is can they win. Of course. Given enough effort, you can teach a Shih Tzu to fight, or hunt, or be a birder, or fight, or be a herder. So by that fact, are you also saying like Sous that it makes all breeds the same and you can't classify ones into lap dogs, birders, hunters or fighters? That training a Chihuahua to herd sheep makes that breed just the same as a German Shepherd or Border Collie where that particular skill is almost instinctual? I'm shocked that understanding a particular breed is better suited for a particular skill is such a hard concept to understand. I can hammer a nail with my cordless drill - so a tool is a tool and they are all the same I guess. I can race around an indi track with a tractor so indi cars and tractor are the same thing I suppose. They both have basically the same parts. Engine, wheels, seat, controls. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know. New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
Exactly who made the rule? I love to hear your opinions on kids... they're so cute <3 |
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Sensei ![]() | ![]() KateTri1 - 2013-03-15 9:54 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know. New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
Exactly who made the rule? I love to hear your opinions on kids... they're so cute I'm not going to say exactly. But they said things along those line in this thread and just about ANY thread where a parent doesn't agree with what a non parent says. "you can't say anything or don't know until you have kids of your own" is pretty much the party line it seems. Fine with me - I don't have to share my thoughts then. Saves me some breath and typing. |
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![]() | ![]() KateTri1 - 2013-03-15 11:54 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know. New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
Exactly who made the rule? I love to hear your opinions on kids... they're so cute BT made the rule. I'm surprised it's not listed in the Terms and Conditions yet |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KateTri1 - 2013-03-15 11:54 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know. New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
Exactly who made the rule? I love to hear your opinions on kids... they're so cute Yep, just like puppies. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2013-03-15 12:58 PM KateTri1 - 2013-03-15 9:54 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know. New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
Exactly who made the rule? I love to hear your opinions on kids... they're so cute I'm not going to say exactly. But they said things along those line in this thread and just about ANY thread where a parent doesn't agree with what a non parent says. "you can't say anything or don't know until you have kids of your own" is pretty much the party line it seems. Fine with me - I don't have to share my thoughts then. Saves me some breath and typing. Honestly, all kidding aside, even as a parent and teacher, it's really hard to give ideas to other parents unless specifically asked. I've opinions on general child topics, but if someone is personally venting about their kid.. generally, things go best if I just listen, express empathy, and keep my mouth shut. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2013-03-15 12:30 PM Sous - 2013-03-15 6:04 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 5:23 PM Sous - 2013-03-14 11:39 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know.
New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
I think the point was that someone without kids can't really speak authoritatively about parenting... not that they can't have opinions about kids. There is a difference. BTW, what exactly is a "fighting dog" is that kinda like an "assault weapon". Seeing, you know, that any dog can be raised to be a fighting dog, and any gun can be used in an assault. GREAT point about the dog, though. Cuz you know, it's just as common to fight Shih Tzus, Teapot Yorkies, and Beagles in the ring as Pit Bulls and Rottweilers. I can see how you can get them mixed up. And the dogs/guns argument is spot on - same thing for sure. Not that I trust wiki all the time, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds Yea and you know that ferocious killer Petey was pit bull too. That day he went wild and mauled Spanky, Alfalfa, and Buckwheat to death will still haunt me forever. It astounds me you don't get that there are certain breeds suited for fighting because of temperament and physical attributes. No point in a discussion with someone who doesn't understand simple concepts, so I'm done. Enjoy your black and white world with no exceptions or grey area. Lack of common sense must be liberating. You too... Pitbulls are bad, they can bite hard, guns are bad because they can shoot a projectile that can kill... Pot-Kettle-Black. Just because a dog can bite hard and can be trained to fight doesn't mean the breed is bad. Just because a gun can be used to kill someone, doesn't mean guns are bad. The KEY to both of these things is that it takes a human being to make both things dangerous. Simple as that... how's that lack of common sense thing working out for 'ya? |
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Sensei ![]() | ![]() Sous - 2013-03-15 12:49 PM Kido - 2013-03-15 12:30 PM Sous - 2013-03-15 6:04 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 5:23 PM Sous - 2013-03-14 11:39 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know.
New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
I think the point was that someone without kids can't really speak authoritatively about parenting... not that they can't have opinions about kids. There is a difference. BTW, what exactly is a "fighting dog" is that kinda like an "assault weapon". Seeing, you know, that any dog can be raised to be a fighting dog, and any gun can be used in an assault. GREAT point about the dog, though. Cuz you know, it's just as common to fight Shih Tzus, Teapot Yorkies, and Beagles in the ring as Pit Bulls and Rottweilers. I can see how you can get them mixed up. And the dogs/guns argument is spot on - same thing for sure. Not that I trust wiki all the time, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds Yea and you know that ferocious killer Petey was pit bull too. That day he went wild and mauled Spanky, Alfalfa, and Buckwheat to death will still haunt me forever. It astounds me you don't get that there are certain breeds suited for fighting because of temperament and physical attributes. No point in a discussion with someone who doesn't understand simple concepts, so I'm done. Enjoy your black and white world with no exceptions or grey area. Lack of common sense must be liberating. You too... Pitbulls are bad, they can bite hard, guns are bad because they can shoot a projectile that can kill... Pot-Kettle-Black. Just because a dog can bite hard and can be trained to fight doesn't mean the breed is bad. Just because a gun can be used to kill someone, doesn't mean guns are bad. The KEY to both of these things is that it takes a human being to make both things dangerous. Simple as that... how's that lack of common sense thing working out for 'ya? Sigh. I didn't say the breed was bad. I said it was a breed that has attributes suited for fighting. Love put bulls. Mentioned above I have known many sweet and adorable pit bulls. It's settled then because I have repeated it several times. You don't agree or understand that certain breeds are suited for hunting, fighting, shepherding, etc. People train certain breeds to do what they are naturally inclined to do. Some are bread to just be show dogs because they are just aesthetically pleasing. Just because breed is suited for fighting naturally, doesn't make the dog a fighter automatically OR make the dog bad. Find anywhere I said that. Some would say I was inclined for sports like basketball and volleyball since I'm 6'7". Are they WRONG? No, I am inclined. But I'm in triathlon where shorter, lighter people are more inclined to be good at. No one is bad, no one is wrong, and it obviously the training that determines it. Short people can be great basketball players, and tall people can be good at triathlon, but they have natural attributes that can help in a particular path/direction. If that's a concept you can't get, I'm wasting my breath trying to explain it further. If you are just trying to argue for argument sake and push buttons, I'm still wasting my breath. Bottom line, I have been wasting my time today. Typical. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2013-03-15 4:15 PM Sous - 2013-03-15 12:49 PM Kido - 2013-03-15 12:30 PM Sous - 2013-03-15 6:04 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 5:23 PM Sous - 2013-03-14 11:39 AM Kido - 2013-03-14 2:34 PM It's amazing I am not allowed to have an opinion about kids unless have them. I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them. I have opinions about guns and nuclear weapons. Last I checked, I don't own an ICBM. I have opinions about how Bowman/Elway manage the broncos, but I don't own a NFL team. If you don't have Cancer, you can't talk about it cuz you just don't know.
New rule, if you don't have personal experience or have/own something, you can't speak about it AT ALL.
I think the point was that someone without kids can't really speak authoritatively about parenting... not that they can't have opinions about kids. There is a difference. BTW, what exactly is a "fighting dog" is that kinda like an "assault weapon". Seeing, you know, that any dog can be raised to be a fighting dog, and any gun can be used in an assault. GREAT point about the dog, though. Cuz you know, it's just as common to fight Shih Tzus, Teapot Yorkies, and Beagles in the ring as Pit Bulls and Rottweilers. I can see how you can get them mixed up. And the dogs/guns argument is spot on - same thing for sure. Not that I trust wiki all the time, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds Yea and you know that ferocious killer Petey was pit bull too. That day he went wild and mauled Spanky, Alfalfa, and Buckwheat to death will still haunt me forever. It astounds me you don't get that there are certain breeds suited for fighting because of temperament and physical attributes. No point in a discussion with someone who doesn't understand simple concepts, so I'm done. Enjoy your black and white world with no exceptions or grey area. Lack of common sense must be liberating. You too... Pitbulls are bad, they can bite hard, guns are bad because they can shoot a projectile that can kill... Pot-Kettle-Black. Just because a dog can bite hard and can be trained to fight doesn't mean the breed is bad. Just because a gun can be used to kill someone, doesn't mean guns are bad. The KEY to both of these things is that it takes a human being to make both things dangerous. Simple as that... how's that lack of common sense thing working out for 'ya? Sigh. I didn't say the breed was bad. I said it was a breed that has attributes suited for fighting. Love put bulls. Mentioned above I have known many sweet and adorable pit bulls. It's settled then because I have repeated it several times. You don't agree or understand that certain breeds are suited for hunting, fighting, shepherding, etc. People train certain breeds to do what they are naturally inclined to do. Some are bread to just be show dogs because they are just aesthetically pleasing. Just because breed is suited for fighting naturally, doesn't make the dog a fighter automatically OR make the dog bad. Find anywhere I said that. Some would say I was inclined for sports like basketball and volleyball since I'm 6'7". Are they WRONG? No, I am inclined. But I'm in triathlon where shorter, lighter people are more inclined to be good at. No one is bad, no one is wrong, and it obviously the training that determines it. Short people can be great basketball players, and tall people can be good at triathlon, but they have natural attributes that can help in a particular path/direction. If that's a concept you can't get, I'm wasting my breath trying to explain it further. If you are just trying to argue for argument sake and push buttons, I'm still wasting my breath. Bottom line, I have been wasting my time today. Typical. You didn't "say" it, but it was very clearly implied when you posted "I don't own a pit bull/fighting dog, but I have my opinion about them" What exactly did that mean, 'cuz I for one didn't read that to mean "I've known many sweet and adorable pit bulls" I guess my powers of deduction must be a bit off, you know, due to my lack of common sense. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2013-03-15 9:58 AM "you can't say anything or don't know until you have kids of your own" is pretty much the party line it seems.
Actually, after seeing the way many kids act, I wouldn't take their parents advice on anything. I'm equal opportunity on this one: Whether you have kids or not, unless I specifically ask you for advice, ain't interested.
As for many of the "experts", so far the majority seem to be living on their own planet. I'm dying to see how their kids turn out, because much of the "expert advice" I've seen/read seems to be remarkably idiotic, or naive. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() r1237h - 2013-03-16 12:32 AM Kido - 2013-03-15 9:58 AM "you can't say anything or don't know until you have kids of your own" is pretty much the party line it seems.
Actually, after seeing the way many kids act, I wouldn't take their parents advice on anything. I'm equal opportunity on this one: Whether you have kids or not, unless I specifically ask you for advice, ain't interested.
As for many of the "experts", so far the majority seem to be living on their own planet. I'm dying to see how their kids turn out, because much of the "expert advice" I've seen/read seems to be remarkably idiotic, or naive. I am not an expert either, but I'd like you to list 4 or 5 resources you've actually researched in order to come to your conclusion and make this broad statement. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KateTri1 - 2013-03-16 5:44 AM r1237h - 2013-03-16 12:32 AM Kido - 2013-03-15 9:58 AM "you can't say anything or don't know until you have kids of your own" is pretty much the party line it seems.
Actually, after seeing the way many kids act, I wouldn't take their parents advice on anything. I'm equal opportunity on this one: Whether you have kids or not, unless I specifically ask you for advice, ain't interested.
As for many of the "experts", so far the majority seem to be living on their own planet. I'm dying to see how their kids turn out, because much of the "expert advice" I've seen/read seems to be remarkably idiotic, or naive. I am not an expert either, but I'd like you to list 4 or 5 resources you've actually researched in order to come to your conclusion and make this broad statement.
I wasn't aware that I needed to do research in order to have an opinion. Does it need to be peer reviewed? However, if you will accept some non-researched examples, a few years ago we were part of a Parent Participation Pre-school. One of the conditions was that all the parents meet once a month in order to hear a lecture on child rearing, behavior or some related topic. Two that I remember fondly were: 1. That families can work as a democracy. Once a week, have the family meet, adults and children, and discuss plans. Everyone has an equal vote in deciding. With all due respect, me and my 8 year old twins don't have an equal vote. Our family is not a democracy, it's a dictatorship, with me and my wife being in charge. We will take the kids opinions and desires into account, listen to what they have to say, accommodate if possible, but the end decision is ours, the adults. 2. That if you explain calmly and carefully to a child what you want, talking to them eye to eye, they will do what you want. Really? In what universe? Not saying it never happens, but the theory was that it will always work.
Of course, we can add the many, many teachers and education experts who have a problem with homeschooling, who have explained that the child will not learn to deal with disappointment, wont be able to learn at home as well as one can learn under the expert guidance of a trained professional teacher, not have any social skills, and won't know how to deal with society and their peers. So far two out of three are, nonetheless, both succeeding and thriving, with number three probably joining them within a year, maybe two. And doing a he11 of a lot better then they did in regular school. Edited by r1237h 2013-03-17 2:54 AM |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() r1237h - 2013-03-17 3:48 AM KateTri1 - 2013-03-16 5:44 AM r1237h - 2013-03-16 12:32 AM Kido - 2013-03-15 9:58 AM "you can't say anything or don't know until you have kids of your own" is pretty much the party line it seems.
Actually, after seeing the way many kids act, I wouldn't take their parents advice on anything. I'm equal opportunity on this one: Whether you have kids or not, unless I specifically ask you for advice, ain't interested.
As for many of the "experts", so far the majority seem to be living on their own planet. I'm dying to see how their kids turn out, because much of the "expert advice" I've seen/read seems to be remarkably idiotic, or naive. I am not an expert either, but I'd like you to list 4 or 5 resources you've actually researched in order to come to your conclusion and make this broad statement. I wasn't aware that I needed to do research in order to have an opinion. Does it need to be peer reviewed? No one ever has to do research to have an opinion, but they do in order to be credible. And I think that your response is from and isolated example, taken out of context. What I would take away from yours, from my very researched non expert take on the advice you were given is, it's good to have kid buyin, so having them give input about rules can be a good thing. Of course for safety there has to be non negotiables, and I do not negotiate with an 8 year old. Also, everyone always loses when an adult goes off on a child. If I ever raise my voice with my son or my class. (except in times of safety issues) it's a fail. |
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