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can i cheat. these are awesome.    thanks!

There have been a few posts about lifting the head while breathing.  A great mental picture to help with this is laying your head on a "pillow" when you breath.

As you swim your body is rolling from one side to the other as one stroke starts and the other finishes.  When you are NOT breathing your head is still and the body rotates around it..when you take a breath your head will rotate WITH the body.  If you are going to breath to the right think about laying your head (ear) on your left shoulder (pillow) as your body rolls to the right.  Same thing if you are going to breath to the left..lay your head on your right shoulder as your body rolls to the left.

Just something to think about.

Robert

Edited by TriFrog93 2009-12-30 11:05 AM

ok. who is the wise guy that logged into suzy's acct?  knock it off.

I know when I trained just over 2 years ago for my first marathon, I gained about 10 pounds especially towards the end.  I got in a mentality that I was running so much that I could eat and everything.  Not saying that you do that, just was one thing that I recognize after the fact.

The tri training has helped me trim back down, dont get me wrong I still eat candy and stuff that is not considered healthy, but part of why I workout so hard is to feel a bit less guilty about that.  I think the biggest thing for me was getting out and doing my HR tests for running etc. When I ran my first marathon, I did it with a Polar HRM.  I ran most of it at about 185, my training was all in that range as well, maybe a bit lower. 

My second marathon and through tri training, I tested my HR zones and trained correctly.  For training runs I was down in the 140ish range.  I did a lot of running with my wife who was training for a 10 mile race, so it forced me to run slower and kept my zones lower.

That being said, I cut over 30 minutes off my time, and did not feel like I was going to die the whole run (only the last mile or so when I was pushing my pace)

It is painful to start training in those low zones but base building is HUGE for both fitness going forward and weight loss aspects.

Trevor--

I was a swim coach for 15 years...haven't coached since 2004, but I will answer your question.  I am not a fan of zoomers and never had my swimmers use them.  We would use regular fins in workout..I felt they helped more with ankle flexibility.  If you have zoomers and not regular fins you will probably be ok...It's not like you will be doing 1,000m kick sets.

I believe the drills you will be doing are to help develop proper body position (drills have many different names) and if the workout has you doing 100 repeats of a drill and you are having trouble maintaining form for the entire 100 I would break it down into a distance that allows you to maintain proper technique before I started using zoomers for help.

Drills were not meant to be done fast...just done well.  If doing 2x50s instead of 1x100 allows you to preform the drill properly I would think you would be better of not using the zoomers.

Robert

... ouch.  Maybe soon I can do something again.

whoa.  just looked at your logs.  whats up!?!  just working a lot or what?

Christmas travels, family stuff and then The Snip. 

ahhhhh i forgot.  hope your healing up!

AWESOME!!! 

How are we coming with the tent?

Good to see you back Jeremy.

Yeah, healing is going well.  I specifically did not look at what 'exactly' was going to happen, good thing I didn't.  When I got in the dr office the nurse drops a pamphlet and says "look through this and ask the dr if you have any questions."

I saw 1 pic and realized that I was totally unprepared for where the cuts were going to be - yikes.  So while no, it wasn't painful... it was very uncomfortable.  Today is day 2 of recovery.

nothing announced about the tailgating yet on the new site.  not worried though, he'll have a spot for us. supposed to be a big announcement friday.  but that has been put off a few times already.

edit.. hey Kelly if you are going to talk to Audra soon, you mind asking about the team tailgating status? 

Edited by fattyfatfat 2009-12-30 12:14 PM

I don't mean to butt in here but I know quite a few people who use zoomers or fins during their swim workouts and I'm curious as to what the benefits of using them are?  Do you use them during regular drills or for something more specific like when you are focusing on kicking? I have to admit that I have no clue what the difference between "regular" fins and zommers are.  I have fins I use for sorkeling...would those constitute "regular" fins? 

Soooo....did you get a cake or not?

And hey I'm almost 4 weeks past mine. you'll be fine in another few days.

Edited by TrevorC 2009-12-30 12:55 PM

I believe my wife is coming down with me. I told her if she don't want to sit around and wait 8 7 (CMON 6 1/2!!!) hours for me to finish on Sunday, to volunteer.

No cake... no real sympathy either.  She went back to work yesterday and today - so we have a babysitter here watching our girls (as the school is closed).  That's not odd at all...

Zommers are just really short fins. They don't have as much length to them therefore they do not propel you as much( I think???) I only use them when I do kick drills 'cause my kick is pathetic and I don't want to be swimming 100m kick drills for 10 minutes.

So on the fins/zoomers question - I've been told by several swim coaches to use them.  One b/c my kick is terrible and I take about 3min per 50 w/o them.  I think the masters coach couldn't take it!  LOL 

I've also been told to use them for drills when I need to work on something specific.  The fins keep my body in a better position/balance so I can focus on the drill/exercise/whatever that I am supposed to be doing and not on keeping my fat a*s from sinking.

That said - I had my first swim lesson yesterday w/ Tony's swim coach.  She videotaped me - UGH!!!!!!!!!!!  I hate seeing myself on video.  No joke I looked like a wounded sea lion.  It wasn't pretty.  Anyway to make a long story short - she told me to settle down my kick, keep my arms at 11 o'clock and focus on balance in the water. 

I did my swim set this morning and I was 20-30 sec. faster than I had since starting back in the pool this month.  Now I'm back to where I was in June, knocked out the flailing crap and am ready to realy start swimming.  Thank goodness.  I go back in a week or so for another lesson.

It was a tough day yesterday.  I also had my bike VO2 test and my numbers were crappy.  I feel like I should be stronger on the bike but I know I'm not.  It drives me crazy.  So I spent the afternoon moping around but now I'm back to kick some butt and work on my workouts.  :-)

I didn't bake my hubby a cake, but in hindsight I probably should have. I, for one, would like to thank you (and all men who take this plunge!) for taking one for the team. Soon you will feel better, I promise! Hang in there and be one with the frozen peas!! 

Racing a 5k on Fri.  It'll be a good test for me to stretch it out a little without trashing my legs for a 9 miler on Sunday.

Goals/Resolutions for 2010:
1)   Complete Marathon training/race injury free and with a finish time that starts with a 4:??
2)   Train consistently for my races this year...especially my HIM in September and to be able to "race" these events instead of just completing them.
3)   Maintain my weight below 210....or just be back in a 32 pants....who cares what the scales say.
4)   Really focus on healthy eating, building healthy relationships and personal growth.
5)   Reconnect with my passions of reading and cooking and develop some more...maybe tennis.

We Shall See.

Steve

Had mine done about 18 years ago and am so glad I did...and speaking of frozen peas...I was laying on the sofa with an ice bag on my "junk" and my very young daughter walked by and asked what was the matter...I flippantly told her I had a headache.  About a week later my wife walks into the den and sees the daughter with a bag of frozen peas on her groin and ask what's up with that and my daughter replies that she has a headache and this is how I had showed her how to treat it.

I have never understood guys that were reluctant to have this procedure done instead of having their wife have to have major surgery...just sayn'

Steve