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bcraht - 2013-05-15 9:42 PMHow the puddy, Salty?  (Don't nobody get dirty now.)
Easily the best I've had-oh! Rocky! He's doing well! He's home with special food and a bunch of meds. It wasn't a blockage I guess it was a UTI but some crystals were starting to form. I don't know what all that means but the doctor said it was a good thing. Plus he's not squatting every 2 minutes anymore.


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Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 9:27 PM
bcraht - 2013-05-15 9:42 PMHow the puddy, Salty?  (Don't nobody get dirty now.)
Easily the best I've had-oh! Rocky! He's doing well! He's home with special food and a bunch of meds. It wasn't a blockage I guess it was a UTI but some crystals were starting to form. I don't know what all that means but the doctor said it was a good thing. Plus he's not squatting every 2 minutes anymore.

I heart you fatpugpuddy.

2013-05-16 9:46 AM
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MadMathemagician - 2013-05-16 7:59 AM I finished the life guarding class last night.  One of the instructors also runs the local water park.  The park is only open over the summer.   She offered me a job.    Since I'm not teaching this summer I just might take her up on it.     

Oh yeah, you have to do that! It is one of my dream jobs.

Absolutely!!!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBRJ6jQfap0

(Iapologize in advance for getting this ridiculous song stuck in your head today!)

2013-05-16 10:01 AM
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MadMathemagician - 2013-05-16 6:59 AM I finished the life guarding class last night.  One of the instructors also runs the local water park.  The park is only open over the summer.   She offered me a job.    Since I'm not teaching this summer I just might take her up on it.     
Awesome!!
2013-05-16 10:25 AM
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MadMathemagician - 2013-05-16 7:59 AM I finished the life guarding class last night.  One of the instructors also runs the local water park.  The park is only open over the summer.   She offered me a job.    Since I'm not teaching this summer I just might take her up on it.     

Oh yeah, you have to do that! It is one of my dream jobs.

Absolutely!!!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBRJ6jQfap0

(Iapologize in advance for getting this ridiculous song stuck in your head today!)

lovelovelove

I was a lifeguard! In high school! We'd spend all day hanging out at the pool anyway; why not get paid for it? Some crazy crazy times.

Go for it my dear mad polymath!

2013-05-16 10:36 AM
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I found a smooshed-up snack size Mars Bar in my bed that I must've slept on last night. Happiness.


2013-05-16 11:11 AM
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TriAya - 2013-05-16 10:25 AM
jmhpsu93 - 2013-05-16 9:46 PM
cdban66 - 2013-05-16 8:06 AM

MadMathemagician - 2013-05-16 7:59 AM I finished the life guarding class last night.  One of the instructors also runs the local water park.  The park is only open over the summer.   She offered me a job.    Since I'm not teaching this summer I just might take her up on it.     

Oh yeah, you have to do that! It is one of my dream jobs.

Absolutely!!!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBRJ6jQfap0

(Iapologize in advance for getting this ridiculous song stuck in your head today!)

lovelovelove

I was a lifeguard! In high school! We'd spend all day hanging out at the pool anyway; why not get paid for it? Some crazy crazy times.

Go for it my dear mad polymath!

My first semester of college I took a life guard course as an elective . Then the second semester I worked at the field house ( which had a pool) and did a little life guarding. Mainly though, I spent my time allowing the cute guys use the pool even when it was closed. I watched over them to ensure safety!
2013-05-16 11:11 AM
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QueenZipp - 2013-05-16 5:59 AM Hey Yanti....do salamanders freak you out as much as geckos?  I was changing litter boxes this morning and there was a salamander of some sort scooting across the garage floor.  I guess Oscar kitty has a pet--but he's probably afraid of it cause he's so goofy.

Funny, we stopped by a friend's house last evening and they had found a bearded dragon in their back yard!

I love every kind of lizard but one.

Well.....(caution, Zoo Geek moment)---TECHNICALLY, Salamanders are amphibians, not lizards. and they are super cute. I would love to find them here, but sadly, there are very few that are common in my neck of the woods. 

'btw, after graduation madness, I am planning the next (possibly 2 tatts)---This time it will be California Tiger Salamanders on one leg, and a few different frogs on the other leg; OR I mights just get a Blue Tree Monitor on my left shoulder and back (a big one!)

--Just had to share.

2013-05-16 11:15 AM
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QueenZipp - 2013-05-16 6:18 AM
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Took the HH Intermediate plan I and put in excel, rearranged the days.  Voila.

ETA: added the dates.

Thank you!!!! I seemed to have a mental block every time I tried to rearrange the days!

Well, first I am glad you got the schedule part solved! Yay! Go Kirsten!!! I sometimes struggle with counting backwards with that stuff too. I run out of fingers...

Second, can you tell me a little about your running history? I think you said you have been doing tri for quite some time (like 7 years or something?) Also, what are your goals for the marathon. And don't say "just to finish" if that's not true. 

2013-05-16 11:17 AM
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TriAya - 2013-05-16 9:35 AM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 9:27 PM
bcraht - 2013-05-15 9:42 PMHow the puddy, Salty?  (Don't nobody get dirty now.)
Easily the best I've had-oh! Rocky! He's doing well! He's home with special food and a bunch of meds. It wasn't a blockage I guess it was a UTI but some crystals were starting to form. I don't know what all that means but the doctor said it was a good thing. Plus he's not squatting every 2 minutes anymore.

I heart you fatpugpuddy.

Are you calling me that or Rocky? Either way, totally true.

Are you having, like, the best birthday ever? 

 

I couldn't figure out how to get you a book, or a gift card for a book without having to buy a card and have it shipped. I'm getting you that damn book, I just need heeeelp

2013-05-16 11:27 AM
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And OMG, I did my first real, REAL track workout last night. 

5 x 1200 (93 seconds a lap, or 6:09 min/mile pace), with a recovery lap in-between

I moved up a group but there wasn't anyone there from that group yesterday so I was told to attempt to hang on to the BOP of the next group.

It was probably the most difficult workout I have done. Additionally, I made the huge mistake of eating jalapenos before the workout. I am a freak of nature and can pretty much eat ANYTHING before running EXCEPT jalapenos. I knew that, but I did it anyway. IDIOT. I had to RUN to the porta between rep 4 and 5 and do the 5th solo. 



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Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 11:17 PM
TriAya - 2013-05-16 9:35 AM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 9:27 PM
bcraht - 2013-05-15 9:42 PMHow the puddy, Salty?  (Don't nobody get dirty now.)
Easily the best I've had-oh! Rocky! He's doing well! He's home with special food and a bunch of meds. It wasn't a blockage I guess it was a UTI but some crystals were starting to form. I don't know what all that means but the doctor said it was a good thing. Plus he's not squatting every 2 minutes anymore.

I heart you fatpugpuddy.

Are you calling me that or Rocky? Either way, totally true.

Are you having, like, the best birthday ever? 

 

I couldn't figure out how to get you a book, or a gift card for a book without having to buy a card and have it shipped. I'm getting you that damn book, I just need heeeelp

Absolutely the best birthday ever especially since now my widdle salty fatpugpuddy showed up.

Book. Hm. Let me peruse.

2013-05-16 11:32 AM
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TriAya - 2013-05-15 11:58 PM

bcraht - 2013-05-16 9:42 AM How the puddy, Salty?  (Don't nobody get dirty now.)

That sounds like an invitation to me.

And there it is--proof that Manatees can't follow directions Wink

2013-05-16 11:33 AM
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Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 12:15 PM
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bcraht - 2013-05-15 10:03 PM



Took the HH Intermediate plan I and put in excel, rearranged the days.  Voila.

ETA: added the dates.

Thank you!!!! I seemed to have a mental block every time I tried to rearrange the days!

Well, first I am glad you got the schedule part solved! Yay! Go Kirsten!!! I sometimes struggle with counting backwards with that stuff too. I run out of fingers...

Second, can you tell me a little about your running history? I think you said you have been doing tri for quite some time (like 7 years or something?) Also, what are your goals for the marathon. And don't say "just to finish" if that's not true. 

Yes, I have been running since about 2005.  Probably have done a dozen 10K's, half a dozen HM.  I hate doing stand alone 5K's cause I am too cheap to spend that much money on a race entry to have a 5K run.  

I did do track in high school, but that was ancient history and I did the shot put, discus and mile walk.  

This is my first 26.2.  I have been injured a few times mostly soft tissue stuff, torn hip flexors and torn gastroc.....The hip flexors were from a fall when I tripped in the pre dawn hours (blinded by headlights), the gastroc was levaqun induced tendinopathy.  Spent 10 months in PT and rehabbing.  

My goal is to be in the 4:00-4:20 range which would put me at about a 9:20 pace....the course is moderately hilly.  Late in the course there are about 4-5 miles of solid up and down (it's the part that the half marathon course has in the middle of the course) and it ends on a pretty steep down hill.  Really 4 hours is probably pretty aggressive, but I may surprise myself there--the 4+ range is definitely realistic.  

2013-05-16 11:34 AM
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Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 7:27 AM
bcraht - 2013-05-15 9:42 PMHow the puddy, Salty?  (Don't nobody get dirty now.)
Easily the best I've had-oh! Rocky! He's doing well! He's home with special food and a bunch of meds. It wasn't a blockage I guess it was a UTI but some crystals were starting to form. I don't know what all that means but the doctor said it was a good thing. Plus he's not squatting every 2 minutes anymore.

Does he normally go outside?

2013-05-16 11:36 AM
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bcraht - 2013-05-16 11:34 AM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 7:27 AM
bcraht - 2013-05-15 9:42 PMHow the puddy, Salty?  (Don't nobody get dirty now.)
Easily the best I've had-oh! Rocky! He's doing well! He's home with special food and a bunch of meds. It wasn't a blockage I guess it was a UTI but some crystals were starting to form. I don't know what all that means but the doctor said it was a good thing. Plus he's not squatting every 2 minutes anymore.

Does he normally go outside?

No he is an indoor kitty. But he was an outdoor kitty for about 12 years (he's 13)



2013-05-16 11:40 AM
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Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 9:36 AM
bcraht - 2013-05-16 11:34 AM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 7:27 AM
bcraht - 2013-05-15 9:42 PMHow the puddy, Salty?  (Don't nobody get dirty now.)
Easily the best I've had-oh! Rocky! He's doing well! He's home with special food and a bunch of meds. It wasn't a blockage I guess it was a UTI but some crystals were starting to form. I don't know what all that means but the doctor said it was a good thing. Plus he's not squatting every 2 minutes anymore.

Does he normally go outside?

No he is an indoor kitty. But he was an outdoor kitty for about 12 years (he's 13)

So recently-ish indoors only?  Didja get the number of litter boxes lecture?  Like litter boxes = n+1 where n is the number of cats you have?  Often we see UTIs develop in kitties what go outside to pee normally but then can't/won't in bad weather, hold it too long, UTI.  But if has been using the LB normally, then maybe just a fluke and hopefully won't happen again.

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Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 11:27 PM

And OMG, I did my first real, REAL track workout last night. 

5 x 1200 (93 seconds a lap, or 6:09 min/mile pace), with a recovery lap in-between

I moved up a group but there wasn't anyone there from that group yesterday so I was told to attempt to hang on to the BOP of the next group.

It was probably the most difficult workout I have done. Additionally, I made the huge mistake of eating jalapenos before the workout. I am a freak of nature and can pretty much eat ANYTHING before running EXCEPT jalapenos. I knew that, but I did it anyway. IDIOT. I had to RUN to the porta between rep 4 and 5 and do the 5th solo. 

So proud. Clearly, it's that you're the kind of person who needs to be tortured

And it could have been worse ... you could have been using your phone to time and, err, dropped it ... and CAUGHT IT.

2013-05-16 11:42 AM
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Grrrrr.  My 17 year old step son called me last night at 11:53 to tell me that his Commencement ceremony is tonight at 7pm.  Unfortunately I work until 7:30.  TEENAGERS!
2013-05-16 11:43 AM
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QueenZipp - 2013-05-16 11:33 AM
Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 12:15 PM
QueenZipp - 2013-05-16 6:18 AM
bcraht - 2013-05-15 10:03 PM



Took the HH Intermediate plan I and put in excel, rearranged the days.  Voila.

ETA: added the dates.

Thank you!!!! I seemed to have a mental block every time I tried to rearrange the days!

Well, first I am glad you got the schedule part solved! Yay! Go Kirsten!!! I sometimes struggle with counting backwards with that stuff too. I run out of fingers...

Second, can you tell me a little about your running history? I think you said you have been doing tri for quite some time (like 7 years or something?) Also, what are your goals for the marathon. And don't say "just to finish" if that's not true. 

Yes, I have been running since about 2005.  Probably have done a dozen 10K's, half a dozen HM.  I hate doing stand alone 5K's cause I am too cheap to spend that much money on a race entry to have a 5K run.  

I did do track in high school, but that was ancient history and I did the shot put, discus and mile walk.  

This is my first 26.2.  I have been injured a few times mostly soft tissue stuff, torn hip flexors and torn gastroc.....The hip flexors were from a fall when I tripped in the pre dawn hours (blinded by headlights), the gastroc was levaqun induced tendinopathy.  Spent 10 months in PT and rehabbing.  

My goal is to be in the 4:00-4:20 range which would put me at about a 9:20 pace....the course is moderately hilly.  Late in the course there are about 4-5 miles of solid up and down (it's the part that the half marathon course has in the middle of the course) and it ends on a pretty steep down hill.  Really 4 hours is probably pretty aggressive, but I may surprise myself there--the 4+ range is definitely realistic.  

Alright. So you have a very solid running history. THAT is great.

What I first recommend (and I am being very lazy right now, so I didn't check to see what you are doing) but work on building up a solid base of running before you start the plan. Get used to getting out there as frequently as possible and slowly ramp up your mileage. You have a few months, which is a great position to be in. I wouldn't worry about speed or anything.

Now, my comments on Higdon, and of course these are subjective. BUT what I felt, was that his plans were lacking. I don't think they have enough weekly mileage to support the long runs and I don't think the long runs in the beginning of the plan are long enough. The biggest things I noticed in doing a plan that addressed both of these things were exceptionally better recovery after the weekly long run, injury prevention and AMAZING post marathon recovery. 

 

*Additional thoughts: How do you feel about that FRI/SAT combo of pace + long run? When I first started running, I had a difficult time with stacked workouts like that. Now I can handle them, and believe them to be a fantastic tool but it's something to think about. So definitely adjust the schedule to what works for YOU

 



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2013-05-16 11:46 AM
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TriAya - 2013-05-16 11:40 AM
Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 11:27 PM

And OMG, I did my first real, REAL track workout last night. 

5 x 1200 (93 seconds a lap, or 6:09 min/mile pace), with a recovery lap in-between

I moved up a group but there wasn't anyone there from that group yesterday so I was told to attempt to hang on to the BOP of the next group.

It was probably the most difficult workout I have done. Additionally, I made the huge mistake of eating jalapenos before the workout. I am a freak of nature and can pretty much eat ANYTHING before running EXCEPT jalapenos. I knew that, but I did it anyway. IDIOT. I had to RUN to the porta between rep 4 and 5 and do the 5th solo. 

So proud. Clearly, it's that you're the kind of person who needs to be tortured

And it could have been worse ... you could have been using your phone to time and, err, dropped it ... and CAUGHT IT.

Oh, Jesus Christ in a race car. Is that what you said yesterday? Because the visual is amazing.

Since it's your birthday a little while longer, you can torture me however you'd like.



2013-05-16 11:49 AM
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bcraht - 2013-05-16 11:40 AM
Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 9:36 AM
bcraht - 2013-05-16 11:34 AM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 7:27 AM
bcraht - 2013-05-15 9:42 PMHow the puddy, Salty?  (Don't nobody get dirty now.)
Easily the best I've had-oh! Rocky! He's doing well! He's home with special food and a bunch of meds. It wasn't a blockage I guess it was a UTI but some crystals were starting to form. I don't know what all that means but the doctor said it was a good thing. Plus he's not squatting every 2 minutes anymore.

Does he normally go outside?

No he is an indoor kitty. But he was an outdoor kitty for about 12 years (he's 13)

So recently-ish indoors only?  Didja get the number of litter boxes lecture?  Like litter boxes = n+1 where n is the number of cats you have?  Often we see UTIs develop in kitties what go outside to pee normally but then can't/won't in bad weather, hold it too long, UTI.  But if has been using the LB normally, then maybe just a fluke and hopefully won't happen again.

I actually didn't get that lecture. But then again, J picked him up, I didn't.

But yeah, he is recently indoor.

 

Oh yeah, sooooo any tips on giving them oral meds? We have two different liquids and one pill. He screamed like a mofo this morning when we tried to put it in his mouth. Like, he literally sounded like a child being murdered. I think someone is going to call CPS ...

2013-05-16 11:58 AM
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Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 9:49 AM
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Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 9:36 AM
bcraht - 2013-05-16 11:34 AM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 7:27 AM
bcraht - 2013-05-15 9:42 PMHow the puddy, Salty?  (Don't nobody get dirty now.)
Easily the best I've had-oh! Rocky! He's doing well! He's home with special food and a bunch of meds. It wasn't a blockage I guess it was a UTI but some crystals were starting to form. I don't know what all that means but the doctor said it was a good thing. Plus he's not squatting every 2 minutes anymore.

Does he normally go outside?

No he is an indoor kitty. But he was an outdoor kitty for about 12 years (he's 13)

So recently-ish indoors only?  Didja get the number of litter boxes lecture?  Like litter boxes = n+1 where n is the number of cats you have?  Often we see UTIs develop in kitties what go outside to pee normally but then can't/won't in bad weather, hold it too long, UTI.  But if has been using the LB normally, then maybe just a fluke and hopefully won't happen again.

I actually didn't get that lecture. But then again, J picked him up, I didn't.

But yeah, he is recently indoor.

 

Oh yeah, sooooo any tips on giving them oral meds? We have two different liquids and one pill. He screamed like a mofo this morning when we tried to put it in his mouth. Like, he literally sounded like a child being murdered. I think someone is going to call CPS ...

Yes, but I'm just off to work, so for now:  Wrap him up burrito style in a towel, tip his nose up towards the sky, and get the pill as far back on his tongue as you can--he won't choke.

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Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 12:43 PM
QueenZipp - 2013-05-16 11:33 AM
Asalzwed - 2013-05-16 12:15 PM
QueenZipp - 2013-05-16 6:18 AM
bcraht - 2013-05-15 10:03 PM



Took the HH Intermediate plan I and put in excel, rearranged the days.  Voila.

ETA: added the dates.

Thank you!!!! I seemed to have a mental block every time I tried to rearrange the days!

Well, first I am glad you got the schedule part solved! Yay! Go Kirsten!!! I sometimes struggle with counting backwards with that stuff too. I run out of fingers...

Second, can you tell me a little about your running history? I think you said you have been doing tri for quite some time (like 7 years or something?) Also, what are your goals for the marathon. And don't say "just to finish" if that's not true. 

Yes, I have been running since about 2005.  Probably have done a dozen 10K's, half a dozen HM.  I hate doing stand alone 5K's cause I am too cheap to spend that much money on a race entry to have a 5K run.  

I did do track in high school, but that was ancient history and I did the shot put, discus and mile walk.  

This is my first 26.2.  I have been injured a few times mostly soft tissue stuff, torn hip flexors and torn gastroc.....The hip flexors were from a fall when I tripped in the pre dawn hours (blinded by headlights), the gastroc was levaqun induced tendinopathy.  Spent 10 months in PT and rehabbing.  

My goal is to be in the 4:00-4:20 range which would put me at about a 9:20 pace....the course is moderately hilly.  Late in the course there are about 4-5 miles of solid up and down (it's the part that the half marathon course has in the middle of the course) and it ends on a pretty steep down hill.  Really 4 hours is probably pretty aggressive, but I may surprise myself there--the 4+ range is definitely realistic.  

Alright. So you have a very solid running history. THAT is great.

What I first recommend (and I am being very lazy right now, so I didn't check to see what you are doing) but work on building up a solid base of running before you start the plan. Get used to getting out there as frequently as possible and slowly ramp up your mileage. You have a few months, which is a great position to be in. I wouldn't worry about speed or anything.

Now, my comments on Higdon, and of course these are subjective. BUT what I felt, was that his plans were lacking. I don't think they have enough weekly mileage to support the long runs and I don't think the long runs in the beginning of the plan are long enough. The biggest things I noticed in doing a plan that addressed both of these things were exceptionally better recovery after the weekly long run, injury prevention and AMAZING post marathon recovery. 

 

*Additional thoughts: How do you feel about that FRI/SAT combo of pace + long run? When I first started running, I had a difficult time with stacked workouts like that. Now I can handle them, and believe them to be a fantastic tool but it's something to think about. So definitely adjust the schedule to what works for YOU

 

What other plan do you recommend?  I am working on having a good base averaging most months 75-80 miles.  Last month was a drop cause I irritated toe peroneals but so far rebuilding higher mileage isn't an issue.
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Hiya Manatees.  I'm not dead, but I'm not doing very well.  Still pretty sick.  Made it to work today only because I had to (picking up posters, feeding cells, etc).  I can't wait to go back to bed.
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