Mucho Mental Manatee Mentors--CLOSED (Pop Tarts?) (Page 57)

A little something from the Dalai Lama to start the weekend:

"Not only is your own happiness and welfare related to others, but the more you help them, the happier you will be."

Enjoy the rest of the week!

Stacey, you have a great excuse to not follow the Google group -- you aren't in it yet!  I sent you some info.

Many of the Manatees are set up as moderators of a private Google community for Manatee stuff.  Current members are: Chris, Darren, Monica, Salty, Ann-Marie, Yanti, Chad, Jennifer, Kirsten, Melanie, Randee and me.  If you are not listed and have a gmail account, send it to me, Chris, Darren, or Monica and we'll add you.

I think that we can hang out here but be aware that it looks like email notifications were turned off when we were archived.

second! I agree with everything Janyne said ( like usual).

and lastly , it is the first day of winter and we are in the 80s!>p>ETA: just saw Janyne's post about notifications being turned off because we were archived, so I guess now I know what happened!

Edited by amd723 2013-12-20 8:54 AM

Racing Manatees!

December 21-22
Yanti - Bali Aqua Stars Aquathlon on Saturday

Disabled list:
Melanie - strained hamstring
Chris - under the weather

December 25 is Janyne's birthday

Stay tuned for an upcoming challege to help you find your mojo! < Jantastic and perhaps something else

Manatee Business:  We've been archived.  Keep a lookout for the new Manatee group in early January!

Jantastic Sign Up Information
Go to http://www.jantastic.me/Register on there and when it gets to choose/create team just search through for the Mad Manatees under M.

The fantastic NyNy, thank you again for the good report!

GO ME!

Yeah, my new Iron training plan--race on weekends, stuff my face in between.

Big warm healing {MELON PRESS} for Melbo and Dub6.

GO YANTI, you racing MACHINE!!  SWIM, SWIM, SWIM!  Oh, and run.

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by mtnbikerchkI'm BACK! Didja miss me?Looks like I missed some races, some birthdays and the end of our little 2013 group!So happy belated birthdays and hope your races went well (I'll be watching for race reports)!Can we still use this thread or is that "frowned upon?" I love the google group too!

Did you test ride bikes?

NO My flight was cancelled on Sunday so we lost a DAY. Then we left on Wednesday so I didn't have time. I do think I've made a decision though......I just need to pull the trigger TGIF ALL!! GO YANTI!!!!! Nothing like getting back on the horse, so to speak, eh? Jumping in with both feet!!

So exciting, a new bike!  Decide, already, then DOOOO EEEEIIITTTT!!!   And post pics for us.

Happy b-day Janyne!!!

heal up manatees!

Just in a lot of pain now--not so much personally, but on behalf of those close to me. Crushing. From my log:

Thank you. So much. Any thoughts you can spare for Kerry and Rudi's families, that'd be great too.

I think I'd rather talk about bikes ... so which one?

Thank you for sharing a bit of Rudi and Taj with us.  May they go in peace.

{{hugs}}

Ann and I continue to keep you in our prayers. I so wish I could take away your pain, but only He can do so for many of us. Peace, my friend.

Thank you. Really. Love and light.

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by TriAya I think I'd rather talk about bikes ... so which one?

I hate to be THAT person who just talks about ME ME ME and my first world problems - especially in the presence of such pain. Since it may cause a short term distraction (in a good way) I'll give ya my short list: 2014 Felt B12 2014 Trek 7.0 2014 Trek 7.5 if I feel like spending an extra $1,000 to get ultegra over the 105 (which I don't) 2013 Trek 7.0 wsd leftover, gently used, great price Leaning towards the 2014 7.0. There is a Trek employee/engineer on the ST forums and I asked his opinion of the 2013 great deal vs the 2014 frame and this is what he had to say: "Tis the season for shops to try and unload old inventory, which means discounts and deals...so can see where the 2013 package is coming from...and it would be a great bike. Still, the 2014 platform fixed so many things from the previous one...not just being lighter and faster, but easier to live with in terms of brake adjustments and seatpost clamping and other common gripes about the 2010-2013 bike. The 2014 has more upgrade upside too. Not only could you put the same cockpit upgrades on the 2014 as the 2013, but unlike the 2013 you can pretty much turn a 2014 7 into a 9 because there's no difference in the interfaces at the front of the bike...want to drop the new 9-series integrated bar on there, you're set. Couldn't do that before. The Shimano 105 blend (there's some Tiagra and Dura Ace in there) drivetrain on the new bike is nicer too. Lots of little things that Shimano does just make it easier to live with...and abuse, neglect, etc. On the wheels, a $99 wheelcover on the stock 2014 rear wheel is a pretty big drag/$ savings. A wheelcover on our Aeolus 5 D3 is the fastest thing we've ever tested in the back of an SC, in fact. Slightly better than the Zipp Super9 clincher disk...which is the best of the rest (as long as it has our R4Aero on it anyway). I feel for the shop...they're really my more direct customer in many ways...but I really do prefer the new bike. The only catch there is availability. Happily (for you, maybe), what we do still have in warehouses is the 7.0...but there aren't many. 7.5 and above have a few weeks lead time on them right now. "

Talking about bikes is basically talking about T.I.T.S., and almost regardless of the circumstances or context, I like T.I.T.S.

Yeah ... I'd lean toward the 2014 Trek 7.0 too. Unless there was a really $$$ race I was signing up for and the difference in buying the 2013 could be that, considering I'd probably never really need that kind of versatility in upgrading the components.

Also, other than crashing the crap out of them, resulting in types (though not extent) of damage that bike shops say they've never seen before, I never neglect or abuse anything on my bikes. Oh, unless you count forgetting to change the saddle out before it blows up 9 days before an IM. Stuff like that.

P.S. I should be packing for Jakarta and resting before the aquathlon tomorrow (only the 2nd I've ever done in my life! The last one was 25 HOLY SHYTE! years ago). Instead, I'm baking vegan peanut butter cookies. Sometimes, that's the only thing that'll do. That, and I have no eggs.

Well, holy shyte, I knew we were archived, but not that email notifications were discontinued.  I have missed a bunch.

Yanti, I am so sorry to hear about Rudi and Taj.  The donation of Taj's organs is a wonderful gift by the family.  I hope they are able to know to whom the organs went, maybe that will help ease their pain a tiny amount.  Prayers for all.

I hope your race goes well, too.

I have been thinking about the Pod.  I have not been as active in here, simply due to time constraints.  But, I do read all posts and keep up.  I would like to see us continue and get some 'new blood'.  I think Jan 2 would be a good time to reopen.

In other news, we took my niece and nephews to Cultus Lake last night; it's a small community about an hour from here that is mostly a recreation area, although the number of permanent residents has steadily increased over the past 10 years.  I did a 30km trail race around the lake a few years back.  Anyway, this year the community has put on a Christmas 'festival'.  It was the first year, so not super well organized, but the highlight was Santa landing on the driving range in a helicopter!  It was really cool.  The kids got to get a picture with Santa and some goodies.  Then we went down to the lake where the trees were all decorated, as well as many of the houses.  It was a great night.  And now, today it has snowed 2 inches overnight and is still snowing.  Since this is Vancouver, it will turn to rain this afternoon and create a slushy awful mess, so I am going to go for a run while I can enjoy it .  Happy Friday everyone!

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by TriAya I think I'd rather talk about bikes ... so which one?

I hate to be THAT person who just talks about ME ME ME and my first world problems - especially in the presence of such pain. Since it may cause a short term distraction (in a good way) I'll give ya my short list: 2014 Felt B12 2014 Trek 7.0 2014 Trek 7.5 if I feel like spending an extra $1,000 to get ultegra over the 105 (which I don't) 2013 Trek 7.0 wsd leftover, gently used, great price Leaning towards the 2014 7.0. There is a Trek employee/engineer on the ST forums and I asked his opinion of the 2013 great deal vs the 2014 frame and this is what he had to say: "Tis the season for shops to try and unload old inventory, which means discounts and deals...so can see where the 2013 package is coming from...and it would be a great bike. Still, the 2014 platform fixed so many things from the previous one...not just being lighter and faster, but easier to live with in terms of brake adjustments and seatpost clamping and other common gripes about the 2010-2013 bike. The 2014 has more upgrade upside too. Not only could you put the same cockpit upgrades on the 2014 as the 2013, but unlike the 2013 you can pretty much turn a 2014 7 into a 9 because there's no difference in the interfaces at the front of the bike...want to drop the new 9-series integrated bar on there, you're set. Couldn't do that before. The Shimano 105 blend (there's some Tiagra and Dura Ace in there) drivetrain on the new bike is nicer too. Lots of little things that Shimano does just make it easier to live with...and abuse, neglect, etc. On the wheels, a $99 wheelcover on the stock 2014 rear wheel is a pretty big drag/$ savings. A wheelcover on our Aeolus 5 D3 is the fastest thing we've ever tested in the back of an SC, in fact. Slightly better than the Zipp Super9 clincher disk...which is the best of the rest (as long as it has our R4Aero on it anyway). I feel for the shop...they're really my more direct customer in many ways...but I really do prefer the new bike. The only catch there is availability. Happily (for you, maybe), what we do still have in warehouses is the 7.0...but there aren't many. 7.5 and above have a few weeks lead time on them right now. "

I kind of hesitate to delve into this since you have probably made up your mind already.

First of all, 105 is fine.  I would not hesitate to go with either a 105 or Ultegra.  Remember that Ultregra from a few years ago is today's 105.

I have put tens of thousands of miles on the three Trek roadies that I've owned and they've all been great bikes.  I have a Felt tri bike and that has also been great.  Test ride both and see how you feel.  As Yanti said, it's all about time in the saddle.  You can buy a bike that is fast on paper but you need to do the work on the engine to see that pay off.

It seems really weird to archive us before starting the new threads.  Pfft!

Cool Santa!