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 2013-04-17 8:03 PM in reply to: #4704686 |
Veteran  1100   Dayton |  Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSEDjobaxas - 2013-04-17 6:58 PM jmkizer - 2013-04-18 5:16 AM ukweeble - 2013-04-17 12:31 PM jobaxas - 2013-04-17 12:25 AM So firstly as part of the MaccaX group I got some stickers for my bike....
cool Should we start referring to your bike as The Stalker?! Funny when Macca does his podcast he says oh here's a question from Joanne Baxas our Stalker. What episode? :D |
| 2013-04-17 8:08 PM in reply to: #4704730 |
Veteran 1100 Dayton | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED bcraht - 2013-04-17 8:06 PM StaceyK - 2013-04-17 3:42 PM jmkizer - 2013-04-18 3:16 AM So Janyne this all just sounds like blah, blah, blah in my head - what does it all mean. And if you have a budget and that's all you can afford what do you choose if fit isn't an issue? (Sorry to change the subject but my heart needs a diversion from Boston and other tragic stuff that has happened in our family over the last 6 months. My BIL was killed in a horrible farm accident in September and last night I found out that his son has been admitted to hospital after having a nervous breakdown, he is 30 years old. I don't know what to do to help.)Artemis - 2013-04-17 2:08 PM ukweeble - 2013-04-17 12:29 PM jmkizer - 2013-04-16 11:56 PM StaceyK - 2013-04-16 6:30 PM So if you have narrowed it down to just these 2 why don't you go back again this weekend and ride just these two and see which one you feel better on, be it because of colour or fit or both combined. I have a Giant Avail 1 which is the women's version of the Defy, being the lower model it has a mixture of Sora and Tiagra components on it. The gearing is Tiagra and while it isn't supa smooth it works well enough for this BOP girl. Maybe if I ever do a HIM I will look at upgrading, but I got to finish studying before I can't even think about that. Come on Stacey! That makes way too much sense! Sounds obvious but the bike shop had neither in stock in my size (extra midget), so i could only test their slightly more exotic bigger brothers which use the same frame but different components and colour schemes. Ultimately i do have to look at price as i will also have to add a few goodies/necessities such as trip comuter and water bottles and poss tri bars so here is the breakdown of actual cost to me including the relevent staff discount. Excluding my add ons. Focus 2.0 SL with Ultegra £568 Focus 3.0 SL with 105 set up £511 Giant Defy 1 with 105 set up £500 Giant Defy 2 with Tiagra £400 My target was £400 but the Defy 1 is looking good value now i have them all written down like this. Who needs a water bottle anyway? I like having the best components you can get. I'm also curious if there is a difference between the two different frames. While I agree with you that I'd go with 105 or Ultegra, given the choice, if the frame doesn't fit, that can only be fixed so much and if it's uncomfortable, well, you have yourself a £500 cloths rack. Both frames are aluminum and the Focus has a carbon fork. The Focus has an FSA Gossamer and the Giant has a Shimano R565 crankset. Both are 50/34 (compact). Crap, sorry Stacey. I think that is the hardest part, not being able to help. I'm glad you asked that question though. I have tried to read up a fair bit on bike components over the past year. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think as far as components go: Sora I have Sora. It works. Made sense for me on my first bike. I don't know the functional difference as a newb. I'll prob upgrade on my next bike though. Funny story about how I was just about to pay $300 more for the 105 bike, but then the salesman talked me out (at Performance) so I could wait to utilize the "double points weekend". And that's how I didn't spend $300. Works for me! Edited by ponderingfox 2013-04-17 8:08 PM |
| 2013-04-17 8:17 PM in reply to: #4704801 |
Elite 4435  | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED Oh maybe the second one or third...I seem to get a shout out every time! |
| 2013-04-17 9:19 PM in reply to: #4686654 |
Extreme Veteran 536 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED So I got offered a number in next weekend's Wallis Sands half marathon. It was in my plans but then it sold out, and then I did Great Bay instead (TOUGH course). I already know the answer,but what do you all think? |
| 2013-04-17 9:26 PM in reply to: #4704886 |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED ArielLIlB - 2013-04-17 10:19 PM So I got offered a number in next weekend's Wallis Sands half marathon. It was in my plans but then it sold out, and then I did Great Bay instead (TOUGH course). I already know the answer,but what do you all think?
DOOOO EEEEEEIIIIIITTTT! |
| 2013-04-17 9:34 PM in reply to: #4704895 |
Extreme Veteran 536 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED Artemis - 2013-04-17 10:26 PM ArielLIlB - 2013-04-17 10:19 PM So I got offered a number in next weekend's Wallis Sands half marathon. It was in my plans but then it sold out, and then I did Great Bay instead (TOUGH course). I already know the answer,but what do you all think?
DOOOO EEEEEEIIIIIITTTT! And there it is. Anyone else? |
| 2013-04-17 9:42 PM in reply to: #4704909 |
Master 2770 Central Kansas | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED ArielLIlB - 2013-04-17 9:34 PM Artemis - 2013-04-17 10:26 PM ArielLIlB - 2013-04-17 10:19 PM So I got offered a number in next weekend's Wallis Sands half marathon. It was in my plans but then it sold out, and then I did Great Bay instead (TOUGH course). I already know the answer,but what do you all think?
DOOOO EEEEEEIIIIIITTTT! And there it is. Anyone else? Awesome!! I love half marathons. [CHANTING] Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! [/CHANTING] |
| 2013-04-17 9:59 PM in reply to: #4704886 |
Elite 4435 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED ArielLIlB - 2013-04-18 2:19 PM So I got offered a number in next weekend's Wallis Sands half marathon. It was in my plans but then it sold out, and then I did Great Bay instead (TOUGH course). I already know the answer,but what do you all think? That's a rhetorical question right? |
| 2013-04-17 10:10 PM in reply to: #4704928 |
Master 3870 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED jobaxas - 2013-04-17 7:59 PM That's what I thought! Notice I didn't answer... ArielLIlB - 2013-04-18 2:19 PM So I got offered a number in next weekend's Wallis Sands half marathon. It was in my plans but then it sold out, and then I did Great Bay instead (TOUGH course). I already know the answer,but what do you all think? That's a rhetorical question right?  |
| 2013-04-17 10:17 PM in reply to: #4686654 |
Elite 4435 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED At school yesterday they made movies, Artemis was the lead as a flower that winds up in the garbage. Her best friend Willow was a deodorant aerosol. here they are - 2 mins after the picture came through Willow's mum said, oh BTW Willow has headlice....mmmmm. (photo (3).jpg) Attachments ---------------- photo (3).jpg (12KB - 5 downloads) |
| 2013-04-17 10:37 PM in reply to: #4704944 |
Master 3870 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED jobaxas - 2013-04-17 8:17 PM So cute! But NOOOOOO!!!!! Fingers crossed you miss out on that special "gift" .At school yesterday they made movies, Artemis was the lead as a flower that winds up in the garbage. Her best friend Willow was a deodorant aerosol. here they are - 2 mins after the picture came through Willow's mum said, oh BTW Willow has headlice....mmmmm. |
| 2013-04-17 10:40 PM in reply to: #4704954 |
Elite 4435 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED 4agoodlife - 2013-04-18 3:37 PM jobaxas - 2013-04-17 8:17 PM So cute! But NOOOOOO!!!!! Fingers crossed you miss out on that special "gift" .At school yesterday they made movies, Artemis was the lead as a flower that winds up in the garbage. Her best friend Willow was a deodorant aerosol. here they are - 2 mins after the picture came through Willow's mum said, oh BTW Willow has headlice....mmmmm. I know right! I don't mind Artemis getting them she has blonde hair and it's thin and straight, easily fixed. Me dark hair and lots of it, like heaps. it takes an age to comb through all that medical shite! |
| 2013-04-18 12:04 AM in reply to: #4704954 |
Elite 4435 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED 4agoodlife - 2013-04-18 3:37 PM jobaxas - 2013-04-17 8:17 PM So cute! But NOOOOOO!!!!! Fingers crossed you miss out on that special "gift" .At school yesterday they made movies, Artemis was the lead as a flower that winds up in the garbage. Her best friend Willow was a deodorant aerosol. here they are - 2 mins after the picture came through Willow's mum said, oh BTW Willow has headlice....mmmmm. OF course now I know my head is itching like mad! |
| 2013-04-18 12:32 AM in reply to: #4705002 |
Master 3870 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED jobaxas - 2013-04-17 10:04 PM 4agoodlife - 2013-04-18 3:37 PM jobaxas - 2013-04-17 8:17 PM So cute! But NOOOOOO!!!!! Fingers crossed you miss out on that special "gift" .At school yesterday they made movies, Artemis was the lead as a flower that winds up in the garbage. Her best friend Willow was a deodorant aerosol. here they are - 2 mins after the picture came through Willow's mum said, oh BTW Willow has headlice....mmmmm. OF course now I know my head is itching like mad! hahahaha! THAT was the worst feeling after teaching staff would get our "outbreak" news. We were all informed, but couldn't say anything to students...going through the day scratching and picking at my hair was so irritating. lol Good luck to your and your girl |
| 2013-04-18 1:06 AM in reply to: #4704909 |
Member 892 England | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED ArielLIlB - 2013-04-18 3:34 AM Artemis - 2013-04-17 10:26 PM ArielLIlB - 2013-04-17 10:19 PM So I got offered a number in next weekend's Wallis Sands half marathon. It was in my plans but then it sold out, and then I did Great Bay instead (TOUGH course). I already know the answer,but what do you all think?
DOOOO EEEEEEIIIIIITTTT! And there it is. Anyone else? You know you want to..... |
| 2013-04-18 1:27 AM in reply to: #4704807 |
Member 892 England | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED ponderingfox - 2013-04-18 2:08 AM bcraht - 2013-04-17 8:06 PM StaceyK - 2013-04-17 3:42 PM jmkizer - 2013-04-18 3:16 AM So Janyne this all just sounds like blah, blah, blah in my head - what does it all mean. And if you have a budget and that's all you can afford what do you choose if fit isn't an issue? (Sorry to change the subject but my heart needs a diversion from Boston and other tragic stuff that has happened in our family over the last 6 months. My BIL was killed in a horrible farm accident in September and last night I found out that his son has been admitted to hospital after having a nervous breakdown, he is 30 years old. I don't know what to do to help.)Artemis - 2013-04-17 2:08 PM ukweeble - 2013-04-17 12:29 PM jmkizer - 2013-04-16 11:56 PM StaceyK - 2013-04-16 6:30 PM So if you have narrowed it down to just these 2 why don't you go back again this weekend and ride just these two and see which one you feel better on, be it because of colour or fit or both combined. I have a Giant Avail 1 which is the women's version of the Defy, being the lower model it has a mixture of Sora and Tiagra components on it. The gearing is Tiagra and while it isn't supa smooth it works well enough for this BOP girl. Maybe if I ever do a HIM I will look at upgrading, but I got to finish studying before I can't even think about that. Come on Stacey! That makes way too much sense! Sounds obvious but the bike shop had neither in stock in my size (extra midget), so i could only test their slightly more exotic bigger brothers which use the same frame but different components and colour schemes. Ultimately i do have to look at price as i will also have to add a few goodies/necessities such as trip comuter and water bottles and poss tri bars so here is the breakdown of actual cost to me including the relevent staff discount. Excluding my add ons. Focus 2.0 SL with Ultegra £568 Focus 3.0 SL with 105 set up £511 Giant Defy 1 with 105 set up £500 Giant Defy 2 with Tiagra £400 My target was £400 but the Defy 1 is looking good value now i have them all written down like this. Who needs a water bottle anyway? I like having the best components you can get. I'm also curious if there is a difference between the two different frames. While I agree with you that I'd go with 105 or Ultegra, given the choice, if the frame doesn't fit, that can only be fixed so much and if it's uncomfortable, well, you have yourself a £500 cloths rack. Both frames are aluminum and the Focus has a carbon fork. The Focus has an FSA Gossamer and the Giant has a Shimano R565 crankset. Both are 50/34 (compact). Crap, sorry Stacey. I think that is the hardest part, not being able to help. I'm glad you asked that question though. I have tried to read up a fair bit on bike components over the past year. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think as far as components go: Sora I have Sora. It works. Made sense for me on my first bike. I don't know the functional difference as a newb. I'll prob upgrade on my next bike though. Funny story about how I was just about to pay $300 more for the 105 bike, but then the salesman talked me out (at Performance) so I could wait to utilize the "double points weekend". And that's how I didn't spend $300. Works for me! Couldn't have said it better myself. Both bikes feel nice to ride so i don't think fit is an issue. The Focus is described in the cycling magazines as 'more like an old school racer position' whereas the Giant is more of an all rounder, but my positioning on both bikes felt similar so i don't have an obvious winner from that. I don't understand the difference in the cranksets (FSA v Shimano) and i know that the wheels can make a big difference to the quality of the set up, but again don't know which is better - Giant P-R2 double wall rims, sealed bearing hubs, DT Swiss Competition butted spokes wheelset or the Concept EX fitted to the Focus. The Giant Defy 1 has been voted the best 'sub £1000 bike of the year' in Cycling Plus, which i also believe put the Focus in the test. Giant also won the overall Road bike of the year with the Defy Advanced 2 so they are on a roll at the moment. BTW, the shop i am buying from is http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ please feel free to browse. Most stuff under £1000 could be put on my list. Edited by ukweeble 2013-04-18 1:35 AM |
| 2013-04-18 1:36 AM in reply to: #4686654 |
Member 892 England | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED Texas tradegy on our early morning news. You guys are really being hit hard right now. My thoughts are with you. |
| 2013-04-18 2:41 AM in reply to: #4705021 |
Elite 4435 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED ukweeble - 2013-04-18 6:36 PMTexas tradegy on our early morning news. You guys are really being hit hard right now. My thoughts are with you. why is there a fertiliser plant so close to residential areas. Whatever it's pretty awful and again terrible injuries. Thoughts with those poor guys |
| 2013-04-18 5:22 AM in reply to: #4704928 |
Veteran 1100 Dayton | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED jobaxas - 2013-04-17 10:59 PM ArielLIlB - 2013-04-18 2:19 PM So I got offered a number in next weekend's Wallis Sands half marathon. It was in my plans but then it sold out, and then I did Great Bay instead (TOUGH course). I already know the answer,but what do you all think? That's a rhetorical question right? x2 |
| 2013-04-18 6:59 AM in reply to: #4704886 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED ArielLIlB - 2013-04-17 9:19 PMSo I got offered a number in next weekend's Wallis Sands half marathon. It was in my plans but then it sold out, and then I did Great Bay instead (TOUGH course). I already know the answer,but what do you all think? You're funny ; asking us what we think like you might get any response besides Doooo Eeeeeett. |
| 2013-04-18 7:03 AM in reply to: #4705035 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED jobaxas - 2013-04-18 2:41 AM If I had to guess, I'd say the plant was there first and then the town grew up around it and is probably made up of mainly plant workers. Doesn't make it any better. Chemical fires are hard to put out and have to be attacked differently from other fires. I understand the city's fire dept is a volunteer one, so I wonder if they knew what to do. Not trying to lay blame anywhere, just curious. Just a devastating event.ukweeble - 2013-04-18 6:36 PMTexas tradegy on our early morning news. You guys are really being hit hard right now. My thoughts are with you. why is there a fertiliser plant so close to residential areas. Whatever it's pretty awful and again terrible injuries. Thoughts with those poor guys |
| 2013-04-18 7:11 AM in reply to: #4705118 |
Elite 4435 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED amd723 - 2013-04-19 12:03 AM the firefighters are likely the first casualties. Looking forward to some good news some day soon this week is too muchjobaxas - 2013-04-18 2:41 AM If I had to guess, I'd say the plant was there first and then the town grew up around it and is probably made up of mainly plant workers. Doesn't make it any better. Chemical fires are hard to put out and have to be attacked differently from other fires. I understand the city's fire dept is a volunteer one, so I wonder if they knew what to do. Not trying to lay blame anywhere, just curious. Just a devastating event.ukweeble - 2013-04-18 6:36 PMTexas tradegy on our early morning news. You guys are really being hit hard right now. My thoughts are with you. why is there a fertiliser plant so close to residential areas. Whatever it's pretty awful and again terrible injuries. Thoughts with those poor guys |
| 2013-04-18 7:36 AM in reply to: #4705125 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED jobaxas - 2013-04-18 7:11 AM Yes, brave people who run in to places others flee. I wasn't trying to denigrate them by my questionabout the handling of the fire, I was just openly wondering. The explosion also leveled a nursing home, so that can't be good. amd723 - 2013-04-19 12:03 AM the firefighters are likely the first casualties. Looking forward to some good news some day soon this week is too muchjobaxas - 2013-04-18 2:41 AM If I had to guess, I'd say the plant was there first and then the town grew up around it and is probably made up of mainly plant workers. Doesn't make it any better. Chemical fires are hard to put out and have to be attacked differently from other fires. I understand the city's fire dept is a volunteer one, so I wonder if they knew what to do. Not trying to lay blame anywhere, just curious. Just a devastating event.ukweeble - 2013-04-18 6:36 PMTexas tradegy on our early morning news. You guys are really being hit hard right now. My thoughts are with you. why is there a fertiliser plant so close to residential areas. Whatever it's pretty awful and again terrible injuries. Thoughts with those poor guys |
| 2013-04-18 7:37 AM in reply to: #4705125 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED |
| 2013-04-18 8:04 AM in reply to: #4705113 |
Extreme Veteran 536 | Subject: RE: Mad Mutant Manatee Mentors 4--CLOSED amd723 - 2013-04-18 7:59 AM ArielLIlB - 2013-04-17 9:19 PMSo I got offered a number in next weekend's Wallis Sands half marathon. It was in my plans but then it sold out, and then I did Great Bay instead (TOUGH course). I already know the answer,but what do you all think? You're funny ; asking us what we think like you might get any response besides Doooo Eeeeeett.Almost wrote the answer myself...but I wanted to hear it from everyone else! |
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