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 2014-09-12 8:46 AM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Melon Presser  52116   |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?)ROTFL ... this has got to be one of the odder IM discussions around It is still super cool and unprecedented that a GROUP of Indonesian and Indo-based athletes are going to Ironman together. We're still definitely in that early adventure high energy days of endurance sports being popularly established here and it is such a deeply moving and inspiring thing to me. D-18 to IMMY (Ironman Malaysia)
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| 2014-09-12 8:51 AM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Member 2098  Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Yanti I giggle too every time I think of the monkey zone! Maybe you can figure out a way to get them to hold up signs "GO YANTI" and take pictures! |
| 2014-09-12 8:55 AM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Has anyone heard from Jonathan TN? |
| 2014-09-12 9:20 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Yanti I giggle too every time I think of the monkey zone! Maybe you can figure out a way to get them to hold up signs "GO YANTI" and take pictures! Hey, I thought you weren't doing any more thinking today?? The monkey zone cracks me up too! Glad we don't have gator zones at my races! |
| 2014-09-12 9:20 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) |
| 2014-09-12 9:45 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 3870 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Yanti I giggle too every time I think of the monkey zone! Maybe you can figure out a way to get them to hold up signs "GO YANTI" and take pictures! Hey, I thought you weren't doing any more thinking today?? The monkey zone cracks me up too! Glad we don't have gator zones at my races! Wellllllll... (IMG_16960396672845.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_16960396672845.jpg (77KB - 3 downloads) |
| 2014-09-12 9:53 AM in reply to: 4agoodlife |
Member 2689 Denver, CO | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Yanti I giggle too every time I think of the monkey zone! Maybe you can figure out a way to get them to hold up signs "GO YANTI" and take pictures! Hey, I thought you weren't doing any more thinking today?? The monkey zone cracks me up too! Glad we don't have gator zones at my races! Wellllllll... Sign should read, "Runners, move to the side of the road when a vehicle approaches, and move to the middle when an alligator does. If both happen at the same time, you're on your own." |
| 2014-09-12 9:57 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Has anyone heard from Jonathan TN? Not in a while. Hopefully he's home and getting settled. I'm sure there is a lot of de-brief type stuff. |
| 2014-09-12 10:04 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 3870 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by rrrunner And doggy snuggling Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Has anyone heard from Jonathan TN? Not in a while. Hopefully he's home and getting settled. I'm sure there is a lot of de-brief type stuff.  |
| 2014-09-12 10:16 AM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Apparently my BT membership has expired. Which begs a question tied to the coaching question of yesterday. I'm not sure what will happen with my TP now that the coached group is done. I like TP as a link between Garmin and BT until BT gets their link figured out. Not sure where my next training plan will come from. I'm focused on RnR for now. Then???? IDK. Probably winter maintenance but thoughts of BQ are still in the back of my mind. Thoughts? |
| 2014-09-12 11:41 AM in reply to: laffinrock |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Yanti I giggle too every time I think of the monkey zone! Maybe you can figure out a way to get them to hold up signs "GO YANTI" and take pictures! Hey, I thought you weren't doing any more thinking today?? The monkey zone cracks me up too! Glad we don't have gator zones at my races! Wellllllll... Sign should read, "Runners, move to the side of the road when a vehicle approaches, and move to the middle when an alligator does. If both happen at the same time, you're on your own." Go to the other side? That is hilarious. |
| 2014-09-12 11:48 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Veteran 1100 Dayton | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Yanti I giggle too every time I think of the monkey zone! Maybe you can figure out a way to get them to hold up signs "GO YANTI" and take pictures! Hey, I thought you weren't doing any more thinking today?? The monkey zone cracks me up too! Glad we don't have gator zones at my races! Wellllllll... Sign should read, "Runners, move to the side of the road when a vehicle approaches, and move to the middle when an alligator does. If both happen at the same time, you're on your own." Go to the other side? That is hilarious. I guess this answers the age old question of: why did the runner cross the road? Duh, because of the alligators. |
| 2014-09-12 11:49 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
Veteran 1100 Dayton | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by rrrunner Apparently my BT membership has expired. Which begs a question tied to the coaching question of yesterday. I'm not sure what will happen with my TP now that the coached group is done. I like TP as a link between Garmin and BT until BT gets their link figured out. Not sure where my next training plan will come from. I'm focused on RnR for now. Then???? IDK. Probably winter maintenance but thoughts of BQ are still in the back of my mind. Thoughts? So is the question about whether to maintain TP, or what to do for a training program? |
| 2014-09-12 11:59 AM in reply to: 4agoodlife |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by rrrunner ^^^you too? Eta: Twitter actually, b/c instagram is one more thing I haven't put on my phone. Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by Asalzwed Oh and finally, finally I feel like I have rounded a corner in training and am starting to actually improve rather than flailing my way through every day. I think a lot of the struggle was doing both running and mountaineering/hiking. I am going to summit Mt. Adams (12,276') on the 21st- 22nd after having my first cross country race on the 21st. So, it should be a big weekend! Obviously I've got a lot going on so my check-ins tend to be less frequent but you can always see what I am up to by checking my instagram. I have a creative goal of posting a picture a day so I tend to be pretty good about it. Seriously cool and exciting! I live vicariously through her instagram pix Oh wow, thanks guys! You really should get IG. I post WAY more to that than twitter. Pictures say 1,000 words vs 140 characters, after all |
| 2014-09-12 12:04 PM in reply to: 4agoodlife |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Yanti I giggle too every time I think of the monkey zone! Maybe you can figure out a way to get them to hold up signs "GO YANTI" and take pictures! Hey, I thought you weren't doing any more thinking today?? The monkey zone cracks me up too! Glad we don't have gator zones at my races! Wellllllll... i dont think i'll do that race! |
| 2014-09-12 12:10 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) As for coaching ... I think I could write a whole book on my thoughts and feelings on this as it relates to me. Ultimately you have to think of your goals and the hurdles you may encounter and whether or not you think a coach is better suited to get you over those. Something I cannot stress enough is that I think taking the time to figure out A. What you are doing and why as it relates to training. Why am I running 800s and why is the rest x seconds. If you can understand those things and how they specifically make you a better runner (or swimmer or cyclist) it's a hell of a lot easier to manage your own training plan. And B. Know thy self Understand what easy is to you, what hard is and what tired is. Figuring out what the start of an injury feels like vs discomfort. As for fancy things like V02 Max testing? I think they can be a tool, sure. But they just can't tell you the whole story. Honestly, in my opinion racing is your very best indicator of how things are going. Because the physical part is not the only factor. I have found this article really sums up what I am talking a bout: http://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/why-science-and-running-dont-always-mix
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| 2014-09-12 12:15 PM in reply to: ponderingfox |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by rrrunner Apparently my BT membership has expired. Which begs a question tied to the coaching question of yesterday. I'm not sure what will happen with my TP now that the coached group is done. I like TP as a link between Garmin and BT until BT gets their link figured out. Not sure where my next training plan will come from. I'm focused on RnR for now. Then???? IDK. Probably winter maintenance but thoughts of BQ are still in the back of my mind. Thoughts? So is the question about whether to maintain TP, or what to do for a training program? Yeah, I guess it was a pretty vague question of whether to do one or the other or both. I see that TP has training plans but i've never looked at them. |
| 2014-09-12 12:22 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by rrrunner Apparently my BT membership has expired. Which begs a question tied to the coaching question of yesterday. I'm not sure what will happen with my TP now that the coached group is done. I like TP as a link between Garmin and BT until BT gets their link figured out. Not sure where my next training plan will come from. I'm focused on RnR for now. Then???? IDK. Probably winter maintenance but thoughts of BQ are still in the back of my mind. Thoughts? So is the question about whether to maintain TP, or what to do for a training program? Yeah, I guess it was a pretty vague question of whether to do one or the other or both. I see that TP has training plans but i've never looked at them. Well more than anything it's probably most important to define your goals first and then figure out what tools you would like/need to get you there (coach, plan or otherwise) |
| 2014-09-12 12:30 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 3870 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by rrrunner Apparently my BT membership has expired. Which begs a question tied to the coaching question of yesterday. I'm not sure what will happen with my TP now that the coached group is done. I like TP as a link between Garmin and BT until BT gets their link figured out. Not sure where my next training plan will come from. I'm focused on RnR for now. Then???? IDK. Probably winter maintenance but thoughts of BQ are still in the back of my mind. Thoughts? So is the question about whether to maintain TP, or what to do for a training program? Yeah, I guess it was a pretty vague question of whether to do one or the other or both. I see that TP has training plans but i've never looked at them. Maybe if you like TP, paying for one of the plans that is linked to it would be a good use of money to create a "supported" self-training? $80/6mo for premium. Don't know how it stacks up against BT plans...or others, but you're familiar with TP already. |
| 2014-09-12 12:40 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 3870 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by Asalzwed As for coaching ... I think I could write a whole book on my thoughts and feelings on this as it relates to me. Ultimately you have to think of your goals and the hurdles you may encounter and whether or not you think a coach is better suited to get you over those. Something I cannot stress enough is that I think taking the time to figure out A. What you are doing and why as it relates to training. Why am I running 800s and why is the rest x seconds. If you can understand those things and how they specifically make you a better runner (or swimmer or cyclist) it's a hell of a lot easier to manage your own training plan. And B. Know thy self Understand what easy is to you, what hard is and what tired is. Figuring out what the start of an injury feels like vs discomfort. As for fancy things like V02 Max testing? I think they can be a tool, sure. But they just can't tell you the whole story. Honestly, in my opinion racing is your very best indicator of how things are going. Because the physical part is not the only factor. I have found this article really sums up what I am talking a bout: http://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/why-science-and-running-dont-always-mix
Good read. I liked her response to one guy's comments..."And so far, out of the four different scientists I've worked with, only one could put the information in it's proper place for me, to be used as a tool but not as a definition of my ability." |
| 2014-09-12 1:24 PM in reply to: 4agoodlife |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by Asalzwed As for coaching ... I think I could write a whole book on my thoughts and feelings on this as it relates to me. Ultimately you have to think of your goals and the hurdles you may encounter and whether or not you think a coach is better suited to get you over those. Something I cannot stress enough is that I think taking the time to figure out A. What you are doing and why as it relates to training. Why am I running 800s and why is the rest x seconds. If you can understand those things and how they specifically make you a better runner (or swimmer or cyclist) it's a hell of a lot easier to manage your own training plan. And B. Know thy self Understand what easy is to you, what hard is and what tired is. Figuring out what the start of an injury feels like vs discomfort. As for fancy things like V02 Max testing? I think they can be a tool, sure. But they just can't tell you the whole story. Honestly, in my opinion racing is your very best indicator of how things are going. Because the physical part is not the only factor. I have found this article really sums up what I am talking a bout: http://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/why-science-and-running-dont-always-mix
Good read. I liked her response to one guy's comments..."And so far, out of the four different scientists I've worked with, only one could put the information in it's proper place for me, to be used as a tool but not as a definition of my ability." I think most AG athletes know the numbers are just a tool. We aren't looking to be the next Kara Goucher or TeeJay VanGarderen. I've not done a V02 test and the guys at P2M only use it as a discussion of threshold and how a person can, through training, push those boundaries. I have enjoyed using heart rate, but I know it's limitations based on fatigue, weather, nutrition, sleep yada yadayada. But, again, it's a tool. I know that riding in zone 3 is more effective for gaining strength/endurance more so than zone 2, but I also know that zone 2 has it's place in training as well. |
| 2014-09-12 1:34 PM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Racing Manatees! A listing of Manatee Races, Rides and Runs and other events |
| 2014-09-12 1:43 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees! A listing of Manatee Races, Rides and Runs and other events Wow. Good Stuff! Looks like some great races this weekend. Go get 'em racers! The additions to the DL make my heart hurt. Heal up friends. {{HUGS}} |
| 2014-09-12 2:17 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees! A listing of Manatee Races, Rides and Runs and other events YAY, GO RACERS, GO!!!!! Erin, I think "teeth" is a first ever for the DL! Way to be an over achiever There are way too many shoulder injuries around here these days too!! |
| 2014-09-12 3:09 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2014 v.2 thread2 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes?) Originally posted by Asalzwed As for coaching ... I think I could write a whole book on my thoughts and feelings on this as it relates to me. Ultimately you have to think of your goals and the hurdles you may encounter and whether or not you think a coach is better suited to get you over those. Something I cannot stress enough is that I think taking the time to figure out A. What you are doing and why as it relates to training. Why am I running 800s and why is the rest x seconds. If you can understand those things and how they specifically make you a better runner (or swimmer or cyclist) it's a hell of a lot easier to manage your own training plan. And B. Know thy self Understand what easy is to you, what hard is and what tired is. Figuring out what the start of an injury feels like vs discomfort. As for fancy things like V02 Max testing? I think they can be a tool, sure. But they just can't tell you the whole story. Honestly, in my opinion racing is your very best indicator of how things are going. Because the physical part is not the only factor. I have found this article really sums up what I am talking a bout: http://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/why-science-and-running-dont-always-mix
I have found this to be soooooooooooo critical. Since beginning with my training partner, my run pace has increased a fair bit. He pushes me. I have written things in my log before like "Apparently S does not know that I can't run this fast". It has proven to me that I don't know myself and what I am capable of. (Conversely, it has proven that I DO know myself, in that I am my own limiter--if I just step out of my own way, improvements come). |
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