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2015-04-13 9:14 AM
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Great job and a great kickoff to the season!  Surely even more good races are in store for you.



2015-04-13 10:05 AM
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Had a good run at the Kettering College 5K! Managed a 21:58 that got me 11th OA and 3rd AG. Won a nifty medal, hat, water bottle, and a gift card from a local running store.

This was the baseline 5K for the year, and I was targeting a 22:30.  My mileage is only up to about 10 mi/wk right now, so I'm feeling hopeful about my upside this year.

Had a lot of fun! Paced myself pretty well and had an awesome sprint at the end that got me a couple more positions.




Great work! Congrats!
2015-04-13 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by ponderingfox

Had a good run at the Kettering College 5K! Managed a 21:58 that got me 11th OA and 3rd AG. Won a nifty medal, hat, water bottle, and a gift card from a local running store.

This was the baseline 5K for the year, and I was targeting a 22:30.  My mileage is only up to about 10 mi/wk right now, so I'm feeling hopeful about my upside this year.

Had a lot of fun! Paced myself pretty well and had an awesome sprint at the end that got me a couple more positions.

Sounds like a great run.  Congrats!

2015-04-13 11:53 AM
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Stacey, I have several tech shirts and tanks.  I pick which one to wear based on the weather; the hotter, the lighter.  As a rule of thumb, when running, I always dress for about 20* F warmer than the air temp.  (Sorry, I don't know what that is in Aussie numbers, being an ignorant 'Merican.)

Spanky, glad to see that you're getting some fun time again.  You should definitely hook up the kiddo on the tri bike.  She'll add good resistance AND encouragement!

Tom, way to go!! You totally blasted your goal out of the water and had an awesome race.  Definitely bodes well for the rest of your season.  When's your first tri?

Melanie, Dobie is hilarious with that enormous "stick".  More like a branch!  She looks like a real pistol.  Bet she makes you smile a lot.  Dogs are so good for the soul, aren't they?  They're just so present, not worrying about the past or future, and their playfulness can be such a welcome break from the tough stuff.

2015-04-13 12:06 PM
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Well Salty, the Clarkes and I are all on the preliminary approved list for Pikes Peak

2015-04-13 12:27 PM
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I have a swimming question.  For background, I've been working on increasing the distance I can swim and I'm up to 1,000 yards.  At present, I'm alternating pull and free 100's because my L hip flexors/glutes/etc. are still weak and bothering me a bit.  I did that yesterday with only a couple of stops to catch just a few breaths.  Yesterday, my average over the entire 1,000 yds. was 2:34, which completely shocked me!  I had been averaging about 3:00 but that included quite a few stops so that clearly wasn't an accurate reflection of what I can do.  I'll gradually wean myself off the pull buoy as I get stronger.  I'm training for sprint tris this year, with the goal of bettering my times rather than AG placement.

I need some guidance on using intervals to increase my speed.  Do I need to be up to a certain distance to make it worth my while, or should I just start now?  Also, what distances should I do and how often should I do them?  If I swim 2-3x/week, should I do them 1-2x with the other swim being a LSD, or do them every time with some days harder and some days easier?



2015-04-13 12:56 PM
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Things are crazy right now. We have a lot of family in town for my cousin's memorial. It's been bittersweet for sure.

The race was great. I finished first female, 9th overall. I'll write a report when things settle down.

 

Randomly...I figured you guys might appreciate this for some reason but I got attacked by a bird yesterday. I was loading bikes into the car and jogging back to the house for a few more things when it swooped down out of the sky, ran smack into the side of my head and then bit the sh*t out of my lip. WT actual F?

 

Anyway, happy Monday!

2015-04-13 1:01 PM
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Things are crazy right now. We have a lot of family in town for my cousin's memorial. It's been bittersweet for sure.

The race was great. I finished first female, 9th overall. I'll write a report when things settle down.

 

Randomly...I figured you guys might appreciate this for some reason but I got attacked by a bird yesterday. I was loading bikes into the car and jogging back to the house for a few more things when it swooped down out of the sky, ran smack into the side of my head and then bit the sh*t out of my lip. WT actual F?

 

Anyway, happy Monday!

That's pretty crazy about the bird.  Good job with the race!

2015-04-13 1:04 PM
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Originally posted by laffinrock

I have a swimming question.  For background, I've been working on increasing the distance I can swim and I'm up to 1,000 yards.  At present, I'm alternating pull and free 100's because my L hip flexors/glutes/etc. are still weak and bothering me a bit.  I did that yesterday with only a couple of stops to catch just a few breaths.  Yesterday, my average over the entire 1,000 yds. was 2:34, which completely shocked me!  I had been averaging about 3:00 but that included quite a few stops so that clearly wasn't an accurate reflection of what I can do.  I'll gradually wean myself off the pull buoy as I get stronger.  I'm training for sprint tris this year, with the goal of bettering my times rather than AG placement.

I need some guidance on using intervals to increase my speed.  Do I need to be up to a certain distance to make it worth my while, or should I just start now?  Also, what distances should I do and how often should I do them?  If I swim 2-3x/week, should I do them 1-2x with the other swim being a LSD, or do them every time with some days harder and some days easier?

Mary, basically all of swimming is composed of various types of intervals. You're already doing them with the alternating 100's and will continue to do variations of them. I'd drop the idea of needing an LSD swim almost entirely. Instead, you can do a bigger swim if you wanted, and have it consist of lots of 200's on short rest. Maybe as an event came closer you might extend out to 400's or 500's a couple times, but largely go shorter. You really want to put the emphasis more on slipping through and going faster. When you can do that it's fairly easy to just back off a little from a strong set pace and string it out a lot farther.

2015-04-13 1:32 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2015.2 CLOSED (Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Things are crazy right now. We have a lot of family in town for my cousin's memorial. It's been bittersweet for sure.

The race was great. I finished first female, 9th overall. I'll write a report when things settle down.

Randomly...I figured you guys might appreciate this for some reason but I got attacked by a bird yesterday. I was loading bikes into the car and jogging back to the house for a few more things when it swooped down out of the sky, ran smack into the side of my head and then bit the sh*t out of my lip. WT actual F?

Anyway, happy Monday!

Congrats on the race!  But try to keep out of the Hitchcock movies... 

Sounds as though the memorial, though hard, was a good experience with family.  (and I see by the lack of news reports that the town did NOT blow up with all of them in one place, thankfully)

Matt

2015-04-13 1:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2015.2 CLOSED (Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by ponderingfox

Had a good run at the Kettering College 5K! Managed a 21:58 that got me 11th OA and 3rd AG. Won a nifty medal, hat, water bottle, and a gift card from a local running store.

This was the baseline 5K for the year, and I was targeting a 22:30.  My mileage is only up to about 10 mi/wk right now, so I'm feeling hopeful about my upside this year.

Had a lot of fun! Paced myself pretty well and had an awesome sprint at the end that got me a couple more positions.

Awesome run!  BLING!

That is a great time, period.  And for the amount you've been running should make you feel REALLY good about the upcoming season. 

Just remember to build carefully into the full Monty.  Injuries suck! 

Matt



2015-04-13 1:39 PM
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Birthday Manatees!!!

Let them eat cake!

April 13 is Mary's birthday
April 15 is Kate's birthday

2015-04-13 1:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2015.2 CLOSED (Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by laffinrock

I have a swimming question.  For background, I've been working on increasing the distance I can swim and I'm up to 1,000 yards.  At present, I'm alternating pull and free 100's because my L hip flexors/glutes/etc. are still weak and bothering me a bit.  I did that yesterday with only a couple of stops to catch just a few breaths.  Yesterday, my average over the entire 1,000 yds. was 2:34, which completely shocked me!  I had been averaging about 3:00 but that included quite a few stops so that clearly wasn't an accurate reflection of what I can do.  I'll gradually wean myself off the pull buoy as I get stronger.  I'm training for sprint tris this year, with the goal of bettering my times rather than AG placement.

I need some guidance on using intervals to increase my speed.  Do I need to be up to a certain distance to make it worth my while, or should I just start now?  Also, what distances should I do and how often should I do them?  If I swim 2-3x/week, should I do them 1-2x with the other swim being a LSD, or do them every time with some days harder and some days easier?

Mary, basically all of swimming is composed of various types of intervals. You're already doing them with the alternating 100's and will continue to do variations of them. I'd drop the idea of needing an LSD swim almost entirely. Instead, you can do a bigger swim if you wanted, and have it consist of lots of 200's on short rest. Maybe as an event came closer you might extend out to 400's or 500's a couple times, but largely go shorter. You really want to put the emphasis more on slipping through and going faster. When you can do that it's fairly easy to just back off a little from a strong set pace and string it out a lot farther.

Thanks, Ben.  I always feel like I'm cheating when I do pull intervals because it's so much easier.  Do you (or does anyone else here) have any suggestions for a good source of workouts or can I just kind of make it up as I go along?

2015-04-13 1:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2015.2 CLOSED (Poptarts? Pet pics?)

Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by laffinrock

I have a swimming question.  For background, I've been working on increasing the distance I can swim and I'm up to 1,000 yards.  At present, I'm alternating pull and free 100's because my L hip flexors/glutes/etc. are still weak and bothering me a bit.  I did that yesterday with only a couple of stops to catch just a few breaths.  Yesterday, my average over the entire 1,000 yds. was 2:34, which completely shocked me!  I had been averaging about 3:00 but that included quite a few stops so that clearly wasn't an accurate reflection of what I can do.  I'll gradually wean myself off the pull buoy as I get stronger.  I'm training for sprint tris this year, with the goal of bettering my times rather than AG placement.

I need some guidance on using intervals to increase my speed.  Do I need to be up to a certain distance to make it worth my while, or should I just start now?  Also, what distances should I do and how often should I do them?  If I swim 2-3x/week, should I do them 1-2x with the other swim being a LSD, or do them every time with some days harder and some days easier?

Mary, basically all of swimming is composed of various types of intervals. You're already doing them with the alternating 100's and will continue to do variations of them. I'd drop the idea of needing an LSD swim almost entirely. Instead, you can do a bigger swim if you wanted, and have it consist of lots of 200's on short rest. Maybe as an event came closer you might extend out to 400's or 500's a couple times, but largely go shorter. You really want to put the emphasis more on slipping through and going faster. When you can do that it's fairly easy to just back off a little from a strong set pace and string it out a lot farther.

Thanks, Ben.  I always feel like I'm cheating when I do pull intervals because it's so much easier.  Do you (or does anyone else here) have any suggestions for a good source of workouts or can I just kind of make it up as I go along?

Um, I think that you know the answer to this.  Sheila T's book + workout cards (modify distances as needed).  Yanti is another good source, of course, but I think Salty would tell you to be careful what you wish for on that front! ;-)

2015-04-13 1:51 PM
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Also made my return to running by doing the first local running event here in Chatham. It is called Neon nights and it is a fun run not timed. Evening run with everyone trying to be bright and all glow sticks everywhere.

Did it with my better half that just finally finished up here schooling on Friday to be a vet tech.

Not sure why that came through as so huge.



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2015-04-13 2:03 PM
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Originally posted by Techdiver Also made my return to running by doing the first local running event here in Chatham. It is called Neon nights and it is a fun run not timed. Evening run with everyone trying to be bright and all glow sticks everywhere. Did it with my better half that just finally finished up here schooling on Friday to be a vet tech. Not sure why that came through as so huge.

Fun!!  And congrats to your BH.  Finishing any kind of schooling is a huge accomplishment!



2015-04-13 2:07 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by laffinrock

I have a swimming question.  For background, I've been working on increasing the distance I can swim and I'm up to 1,000 yards.  At present, I'm alternating pull and free 100's because my L hip flexors/glutes/etc. are still weak and bothering me a bit.  I did that yesterday with only a couple of stops to catch just a few breaths.  Yesterday, my average over the entire 1,000 yds. was 2:34, which completely shocked me!  I had been averaging about 3:00 but that included quite a few stops so that clearly wasn't an accurate reflection of what I can do.  I'll gradually wean myself off the pull buoy as I get stronger.  I'm training for sprint tris this year, with the goal of bettering my times rather than AG placement.

I need some guidance on using intervals to increase my speed.  Do I need to be up to a certain distance to make it worth my while, or should I just start now?  Also, what distances should I do and how often should I do them?  If I swim 2-3x/week, should I do them 1-2x with the other swim being a LSD, or do them every time with some days harder and some days easier?

Mary, basically all of swimming is composed of various types of intervals. You're already doing them with the alternating 100's and will continue to do variations of them. I'd drop the idea of needing an LSD swim almost entirely. Instead, you can do a bigger swim if you wanted, and have it consist of lots of 200's on short rest. Maybe as an event came closer you might extend out to 400's or 500's a couple times, but largely go shorter. You really want to put the emphasis more on slipping through and going faster. When you can do that it's fairly easy to just back off a little from a strong set pace and string it out a lot farther.

Thanks, Ben.  I always feel like I'm cheating when I do pull intervals because it's so much easier.  Do you (or does anyone else here) have any suggestions for a good source of workouts or can I just kind of make it up as I go along?

Um, I think that you know the answer to this.  Sheila T's book + workout cards (modify distances as needed).  Yanti is another good source, of course, but I think Salty would tell you to be careful what you wish for on that front! ;-)

Hm, yeah, I should probably check those out.  The local indie bookstore has them in stock for the same price as on her website and without the shipping.  I've heard so much whining discussion about her workouts, I thought they might be too hard for me.    but I guess I could just use them as a guideline until I get stronger.

2015-04-13 2:36 PM
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Birthday Manatees!!!

Let them eat cake!

April 13 is Mary's birthday
April 15 is Kate's birthday

Happy Birthday Mary and Kate!

2015-04-13 2:37 PM
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Originally posted by Techdiver Also made my return to running by doing the first local running event here in Chatham. It is called Neon nights and it is a fun run not timed. Evening run with everyone trying to be bright and all glow sticks everywhere. Did it with my better half that just finally finished up here schooling on Friday to be a vet tech. Not sure why that came through as so huge.

Congrats to you both on the race run--and to your BH from one vet tech to another!  What school did she go to? 



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Originally posted by IronOx

Originally posted by jmkizer

Birthday Manatees!!!

Let them eat cake!

April 13 is Mary's birthday
April 15 is Kate's birthday

Happy Birthday Mary and Kate!

I was kinda waiting for someone to say Who's Kate?

2015-04-13 2:39 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by IronOx

Originally posted by jmkizer

Birthday Manatees!!!

Let them eat cake!

April 13 is Mary's birthday
April 15 is Kate's birthday

Happy Birthday Mary and Kate!

I was kinda waiting for someone to say Who's Kate?

Isn't she the froggy lizardy cheshire caty one? 



2015-04-13 2:48 PM
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Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by laffinrock

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by laffinrock

I have a swimming question.  For background, I've been working on increasing the distance I can swim and I'm up to 1,000 yards.  At present, I'm alternating pull and free 100's because my L hip flexors/glutes/etc. are still weak and bothering me a bit.  I did that yesterday with only a couple of stops to catch just a few breaths.  Yesterday, my average over the entire 1,000 yds. was 2:34, which completely shocked me!  I had been averaging about 3:00 but that included quite a few stops so that clearly wasn't an accurate reflection of what I can do.  I'll gradually wean myself off the pull buoy as I get stronger.  I'm training for sprint tris this year, with the goal of bettering my times rather than AG placement.

I need some guidance on using intervals to increase my speed.  Do I need to be up to a certain distance to make it worth my while, or should I just start now?  Also, what distances should I do and how often should I do them?  If I swim 2-3x/week, should I do them 1-2x with the other swim being a LSD, or do them every time with some days harder and some days easier?

Mary, basically all of swimming is composed of various types of intervals. You're already doing them with the alternating 100's and will continue to do variations of them. I'd drop the idea of needing an LSD swim almost entirely. Instead, you can do a bigger swim if you wanted, and have it consist of lots of 200's on short rest. Maybe as an event came closer you might extend out to 400's or 500's a couple times, but largely go shorter. You really want to put the emphasis more on slipping through and going faster. When you can do that it's fairly easy to just back off a little from a strong set pace and string it out a lot farther.

Thanks, Ben.  I always feel like I'm cheating when I do pull intervals because it's so much easier.  Do you (or does anyone else here) have any suggestions for a good source of workouts or can I just kind of make it up as I go along?

Um, I think that you know the answer to this.  Sheila T's book + workout cards (modify distances as needed).  Yanti is another good source, of course, but I think Salty would tell you to be careful what you wish for on that front! ;-)

Hm, yeah, I should probably check those out.  The local indie bookstore has them in stock for the same price as on her website and without the shipping.  I've heard so much whining discussion about her workouts, I thought they might be too hard for me.    but I guess I could just use them as a guideline until I get stronger.

Mary, the first two weeks of workouts are available online

http://swimspeedsecrets.com/2013/03/05/try-the-first-two-weeks-of-swim-speed-workouts/

For the first workout, if you are used to swimming about 1000, I think I'd stick to the warm up and main set and stop it there.  For the main set maybe to 10 instead of 12 and then add the final two reps as a cool down?

For the second workout, I'd do the warm up and for the main set do 3 instead of 6 reps. (~1200 total)

You get the idea.

On paper, her workouts look boring and more like work than fun but in practice, they were actually pretty good.  I was using them until going back to masters. 

2015-04-13 2:49 PM
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Originally posted by IronOx

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by IronOx

Originally posted by jmkizer

Birthday Manatees!!!

Let them eat cake!

April 13 is Mary's birthday
April 15 is Kate's birthday

Happy Birthday Mary and Kate!

I was kinda waiting for someone to say Who's Kate?

Isn't she the froggy lizardy cheshire caty one? 

That's the rumor!

2015-04-13 2:52 PM
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Originally posted by rrrunner

Well Salty, the Clarkes and I are all on the preliminary approved list for Pikes Peak

    COOL!!!  Mega-manatee meet-up!

2015-04-13 3:07 PM
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Originally posted by laffinrock

Summary post:

Stacey, I have several tech shirts and tanks.  I pick which one to wear based on the weather; the hotter, the lighter.  As a rule of thumb, when running, I always dress for about 20* F warmer than the air temp.  (Sorry, I don't know what that is in Aussie numbers, being an ignorant 'Merican.)

Spanky, glad to see that you're getting some fun time again.  You should definitely hook up the kiddo on the tri bike.  She'll add good resistance AND encouragement!

Tom, way to go!! You totally blasted your goal out of the water and had an awesome race.  Definitely bodes well for the rest of your season.  When's your first tri?

Melanie, Dobie is hilarious with that enormous "stick".  More like a branch!  She looks like a real pistol.  Bet she makes you smile a lot.  Dogs are so good for the soul, aren't they?  They're just so present, not worrying about the past or future, and their playfulness can be such a welcome break from the tough stuff.

My first tri is May 10, a sprint.  300y/10mi/5K.  Looking forward to blowing out the cobwebs!

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