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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 11:14 AM We were at an Aggie's house with an Auburn grad this weekend and we came-up with a great idea. SEC should kick one team out per year and allow one team in each year. "Sorry Kentucky, you gotta go play in the Sun Belt conference. Welcome in Louisville!" European Soccer style. This would give a route for those crying Boise State types who feel 10 wins against desert sheep farmers deserves a shot at the championship. |
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![]() | ![]() pitt83 - 2013-01-08 10:17 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 11:14 AM This would give a route for those crying Boise State types who feel 10 wins against desert sheep farmers deserves a shot at the championship.We were at an Aggie's house with an Auburn grad this weekend and we came-up with a great idea. SEC should kick one team out per year and allow one team in each year. "Sorry Kentucky, you gotta go play in the Sun Belt conference. Welcome in Louisville!" European Soccer style. Those would be shepherds... There's a word for that... Shepherds... now you learned something... |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:19 AM pitt83 - 2013-01-08 10:17 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 11:14 AM This would give a route for those crying Boise State types who feel 10 wins against desert sheep farmers deserves a shot at the championship.We were at an Aggie's house with an Auburn grad this weekend and we came-up with a great idea. SEC should kick one team out per year and allow one team in each year. "Sorry Kentucky, you gotta go play in the Sun Belt conference. Welcome in Louisville!" European Soccer style. Those would be shepherds... There's a word for that... Shepherds... now you learned something... Farmers was funnier.....I spit coffee. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:05 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:47 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 9:25 AM But aren't we doing this wrong? You don't pick the top 4 from now. You pick the top 4 BEFORE the bowl games. The point is the big bowl games ARE the playoffs. If that's the case then it's ND, AL, FL & OR (granted FL choked BIG time against Louisville but I honestly think they would have put up a better fight against AL than ND) And there it is. The person talking about how it would've ended up... TRS, we were just saying if they held it after the bowls what would it look like. Right, but they wouldn't hold it after the bowls. So I'm not sure what the point was. And for the record even Louisville would have given a better game than ND. I'm not trying to argue FL into the NC game this year. They did not deserve it. But neither did ND. Why not? |
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![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2013-01-08 10:27 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:19 AM pitt83 - 2013-01-08 10:17 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 11:14 AM This would give a route for those crying Boise State types who feel 10 wins against desert sheep farmers deserves a shot at the championship.We were at an Aggie's house with an Auburn grad this weekend and we came-up with a great idea. SEC should kick one team out per year and allow one team in each year. "Sorry Kentucky, you gotta go play in the Sun Belt conference. Welcome in Louisville!" European Soccer style. Those would be shepherds... There's a word for that... Shepherds... now you learned something... Farmers was funnier.....I spit coffee. Ranchers is more accurate than farmers. But yeah, I snerked at Pitt's version too. He's on a roll today. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2013-01-08 9:28 AM the bear - 2013-01-08 9:21 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-08 9:08 AMI wouldn't want to see two teams from the same conference in a 4 team playoff. even if they were, say, the only two one-loss teams in the country and hadn't yet played each other? Conference champions.....period. I'd love to see an eight team playoff. Seed the six conference champions of the current automatic qualifying conferences, along with the two best conference champions from the mid-majors. Or maybe one mid-major champion and one at-large bid. Since all of the major programs schedule cream puffs for their out of conference games, you got to let each conference champion play it out at the end. Obviously there would be some years (probably most years) where the mid-major teams are nothing more than warmup games for the two highest seeds. But there are some years where they can legitimately compete with the best. The TCU victory over the Badgers in the Rose Bowl was heartbreaking to watch, but TCU was a great team that year and they deserved a shot to win the national championship. I got no sympathy for a team that can't win their own conference being left out of the playoffs. Or for Notre Dame if they stay independent. Pick a conference and have a chance to get in the playoffs, or don't and not be eligible. But the NCAA doesn't have the balls to stand up to ND, and there's no way ND is giving up their fat tv contract. |
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![]() | ![]() kevin_trapp - 2013-01-08 10:34 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-08 9:28 AM the bear - 2013-01-08 9:21 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-08 9:08 AMI wouldn't want to see two teams from the same conference in a 4 team playoff. even if they were, say, the only two one-loss teams in the country and hadn't yet played each other? Conference champions.....period. I'd love to see an eight team playoff. Seed the six conference champions of the current automatic qualifying conferences, along with the two best conference champions from the mid-majors. Or maybe one mid-major champion and one at-large bid. Since all of the major programs schedule cream puffs for their out of conference games, you got to let each conference champion play it out at the end. Obviously there would be some years (probably most years) where the mid-major teams are nothing more than warmup games for the two highest seeds. But there are some years where they can legitimately compete with the best. The TCU victory over the Badgers in the Rose Bowl was heartbreaking to watch, but TCU was a great team that year and they deserved a shot to win the national championship. I got no sympathy for a team that can't win their own conference being left out of the playoffs. Or for Notre Dame if they stay independent. Pick a conference and have a chance to get in the playoffs, or don't and not be eligible. But the NCAA doesn't have the balls to stand up to ND, and there's no way ND is giving up their fat tv contract. In that case, ND, you have to win all your games to get one of the two spots. That's not a terrible idea. What I dislike is that you have situations like Oregon where Stanford lost a non-conference game and then beat Oregon and then lost a conference game but is crowned Conference Champ so they would be in while Oregon is out having lost only one game. In other words, Conference Champ, Out of Conference Chump. I know, I know, Don't lose to Stanford... Don't lose to South Carolina, etc, etc. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() crowny2 - 2013-01-08 11:28 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:05 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:47 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 9:25 AM But aren't we doing this wrong? You don't pick the top 4 from now. You pick the top 4 BEFORE the bowl games. The point is the big bowl games ARE the playoffs. If that's the case then it's ND, AL, FL & OR (granted FL choked BIG time against Louisville but I honestly think they would have put up a better fight against AL than ND) And there it is. The person talking about how it would've ended up... TRS, we were just saying if they held it after the bowls what would it look like. Right, but they wouldn't hold it after the bowls. So I'm not sure what the point was. And for the record even Louisville would have given a better game than ND. I'm not trying to argue FL into the NC game this year. They did not deserve it. But neither did ND. Why not? Did you watch that game? Add in their #33 strength of schedule and it's pretty clear to me they were not the #1 (or #2) team in the country. |
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![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:38 AM crowny2 - 2013-01-08 11:28 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:05 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:47 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 9:25 AM But aren't we doing this wrong? You don't pick the top 4 from now. You pick the top 4 BEFORE the bowl games. The point is the big bowl games ARE the playoffs. If that's the case then it's ND, AL, FL & OR (granted FL choked BIG time against Louisville but I honestly think they would have put up a better fight against AL than ND) And there it is. The person talking about how it would've ended up... TRS, we were just saying if they held it after the bowls what would it look like. Right, but they wouldn't hold it after the bowls. So I'm not sure what the point was. And for the record even Louisville would have given a better game than ND. I'm not trying to argue FL into the NC game this year. They did not deserve it. But neither did ND. Why not? Did you watch that game? Add in their #33 strength of schedule and it's pretty clear to me they were not the #1 (or #2) team in the country. Well the computers thought they were and computers are never wrong... |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 11:38 AM crowny2 - 2013-01-08 11:28 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:05 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:47 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 9:25 AM But aren't we doing this wrong? You don't pick the top 4 from now. You pick the top 4 BEFORE the bowl games. The point is the big bowl games ARE the playoffs. If that's the case then it's ND, AL, FL & OR (granted FL choked BIG time against Louisville but I honestly think they would have put up a better fight against AL than ND) And there it is. The person talking about how it would've ended up... TRS, we were just saying if they held it after the bowls what would it look like. Right, but they wouldn't hold it after the bowls. So I'm not sure what the point was. And for the record even Louisville would have given a better game than ND. I'm not trying to argue FL into the NC game this year. They did not deserve it. But neither did ND. Why not? Did you watch that game? Add in their #33 strength of schedule and it's pretty clear to me they were not the #1 (or #2) team in the country. They were simply beated by 11 superior athletes lined up across from them. Every guy was physically outplayed. If I had a coaching vacancy, I'd want the strength and conditioning coaches number at Alabama first thing this morning. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() pitt83 - 2013-01-08 9:17 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 11:14 AM This would give a route for those crying Boise State types who feel 10 wins against desert sheep farmers deserves a shot at the championship.We were at an Aggie's house with an Auburn grad this weekend and we came-up with a great idea. SEC should kick one team out per year and allow one team in each year. "Sorry Kentucky, you gotta go play in the Sun Belt conference. Welcome in Louisville!" European Soccer style.
Is that what you call Georgians then |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() pitt83 - 2013-01-08 10:42 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 11:38 AM They were simply beated by 11 superior athletes lined up across from them. Every guy was physically outplayed. If I had a coaching vacancy, I'd want the strength and conditioning coaches number at Alabama first thing this morning.crowny2 - 2013-01-08 11:28 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:05 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:47 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 9:25 AM But aren't we doing this wrong? You don't pick the top 4 from now. You pick the top 4 BEFORE the bowl games. The point is the big bowl games ARE the playoffs. If that's the case then it's ND, AL, FL & OR (granted FL choked BIG time against Louisville but I honestly think they would have put up a better fight against AL than ND) And there it is. The person talking about how it would've ended up... TRS, we were just saying if they held it after the bowls what would it look like. Right, but they wouldn't hold it after the bowls. So I'm not sure what the point was. And for the record even Louisville would have given a better game than ND. I'm not trying to argue FL into the NC game this year. They did not deserve it. But neither did ND. Why not? Did you watch that game? Add in their #33 strength of schedule and it's pretty clear to me they were not the #1 (or #2) team in the country. Yes I watched it. Painful as it was. And Alabama's SOS was #31, was it not? So why did Alabama deserve to be there? They weren't #2. If you go by SOS. But that is NOT how it is decided. So in fact they did deserve to be there. How they played last night is irrelevant. How many times have we seen a blowout in the NC game. Remember USC v OU? What it all boils down to is that there does indeed need to be a true playoff. And to me 4 teams ain't gonna cut it. ETA: beated? Edited by crowny2 2013-01-08 10:47 AM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JoshR - 2013-01-08 11:44 AM pitt83 - 2013-01-08 9:17 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 11:14 AM This would give a route for those crying Boise State types who feel 10 wins against desert sheep farmers deserves a shot at the championship.We were at an Aggie's house with an Auburn grad this weekend and we came-up with a great idea. SEC should kick one team out per year and allow one team in each year. "Sorry Kentucky, you gotta go play in the Sun Belt conference. Welcome in Louisville!" European Soccer style.
Is that what you call Georgians then They don't exactly "farm" the sheep in Georgia... |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JoshR - 2013-01-08 10:44 AM pitt83 - 2013-01-08 9:17 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 11:14 AM This would give a route for those crying Boise State types who feel 10 wins against desert sheep farmers deserves a shot at the championship.We were at an Aggie's house with an Auburn grad this weekend and we came-up with a great idea. SEC should kick one team out per year and allow one team in each year. "Sorry Kentucky, you gotta go play in the Sun Belt conference. Welcome in Louisville!" European Soccer style.
Is that what you call Georgians then No, they are pig sheperds. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:38 AM crowny2 - 2013-01-08 11:28 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:05 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:47 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 9:25 AM But aren't we doing this wrong? You don't pick the top 4 from now. You pick the top 4 BEFORE the bowl games. The point is the big bowl games ARE the playoffs. If that's the case then it's ND, AL, FL & OR (granted FL choked BIG time against Louisville but I honestly think they would have put up a better fight against AL than ND) And there it is. The person talking about how it would've ended up... TRS, we were just saying if they held it after the bowls what would it look like. Right, but they wouldn't hold it after the bowls. So I'm not sure what the point was. And for the record even Louisville would have given a better game than ND. I'm not trying to argue FL into the NC game this year. They did not deserve it. But neither did ND. Why not? Did you watch that game? Add in their #33 strength of schedule and it's pretty clear to me they were not the #1 (or #2) team in the country. The argument against a playoff has always been that it devalues the regular season. And based on the regular season, ND deserved to play for the championship. Nobody beat them all year. How can you justify not having an undefeated team play for the championship? And if Terrelle Pryor had bought his own tattoos, the SEC would have been left out entirely, despite clearly being the best conference in the nation. Based on the season, the BCS got the two right teams. Based on the actual teams that got in, it's just proof that there needs to be a playoff. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm glad ND got in......what better way to expose them for the pretenders they are? ![]() |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() pitt83 - 2013-01-08 9:46 AM JoshR - 2013-01-08 11:44 AM They don't exactly "farm" the sheep in Georgia...pitt83 - 2013-01-08 9:17 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 11:14 AM This would give a route for those crying Boise State types who feel 10 wins against desert sheep farmers deserves a shot at the championship.We were at an Aggie's house with an Auburn grad this weekend and we came-up with a great idea. SEC should kick one team out per year and allow one team in each year. "Sorry Kentucky, you gotta go play in the Sun Belt conference. Welcome in Louisville!" European Soccer style.
Is that what you call Georgians then Funny story about that game, my coworkers son was BSU's TE and he went down to Atlanta for the game. He said he stopped by a bakery and had his BSU gear on and they all were laughing at him and making fun of him. He said they practically convinced him he shouldn't even go to the game. After the game he went back to the same place and they had a BSU cookie for him and told him how impressed they were with BSU. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:37 AM kevin_trapp - 2013-01-08 10:34 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-08 9:28 AM the bear - 2013-01-08 9:21 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-08 9:08 AMI wouldn't want to see two teams from the same conference in a 4 team playoff. even if they were, say, the only two one-loss teams in the country and hadn't yet played each other? Conference champions.....period. I'd love to see an eight team playoff. Seed the six conference champions of the current automatic qualifying conferences, along with the two best conference champions from the mid-majors. Or maybe one mid-major champion and one at-large bid. Since all of the major programs schedule cream puffs for their out of conference games, you got to let each conference champion play it out at the end. Obviously there would be some years (probably most years) where the mid-major teams are nothing more than warmup games for the two highest seeds. But there are some years where they can legitimately compete with the best. The TCU victory over the Badgers in the Rose Bowl was heartbreaking to watch, but TCU was a great team that year and they deserved a shot to win the national championship. I got no sympathy for a team that can't win their own conference being left out of the playoffs. Or for Notre Dame if they stay independent. Pick a conference and have a chance to get in the playoffs, or don't and not be eligible. But the NCAA doesn't have the balls to stand up to ND, and there's no way ND is giving up their fat tv contract. In that case, ND, you have to win all your games to get one of the two spots. That's not a terrible idea. What I dislike is that you have situations like Oregon where Stanford lost a non-conference game and then beat Oregon and then lost a conference game but is crowned Conference Champ so they would be in while Oregon is out having lost only one game. In other words, Conference Champ, Out of Conference Chump. I know, I know, Don't lose to Stanford... Don't lose to South Carolina, etc, etc. This doesn't bother me because it's up to each conference to determine how they crown their champion. A couple seasons back three teams from the Big 12 south all had one loss, to each other. The Big 12 rules was the team with the highest BCS ranking got to represent the south in the championship game. So Oklahoma got in despite losing to Texas that year. Sucks to be a longhorn I guess, but that's how the Big 12 wanted it done. |
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![]() | ![]() kevin_trapp - 2013-01-08 10:50 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:38 AM crowny2 - 2013-01-08 11:28 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:05 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:47 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 9:25 AM But aren't we doing this wrong? You don't pick the top 4 from now. You pick the top 4 BEFORE the bowl games. The point is the big bowl games ARE the playoffs. If that's the case then it's ND, AL, FL & OR (granted FL choked BIG time against Louisville but I honestly think they would have put up a better fight against AL than ND) And there it is. The person talking about how it would've ended up... TRS, we were just saying if they held it after the bowls what would it look like. Right, but they wouldn't hold it after the bowls. So I'm not sure what the point was. And for the record even Louisville would have given a better game than ND. I'm not trying to argue FL into the NC game this year. They did not deserve it. But neither did ND. Why not? Did you watch that game? Add in their #33 strength of schedule and it's pretty clear to me they were not the #1 (or #2) team in the country. The argument against a playoff has always been that it devalues the regular season. And based on the regular season, ND deserved to play for the championship. Nobody beat them all year. How can you justify not having an undefeated team play for the championship? And if Terrelle Pryor had bought his own tattoos, the SEC would have been left out entirely, despite clearly being the best conference in the nation. Based on the season, the BCS got the two right teams. Based on the actual teams that got in, it's just proof that there needs to be a playoff. I'd say another improvement would be that the NCAA gets to decide 2 non-conference games for each team. Sorry Alabama, no playing Troy State this year. You get to play Ohio State. Sorry Oregon, no Hawaii for you, instead you'll play Texas. That would virtually guarantee marquee games every weekend and there'd be no hideouts like Ohio State did this year. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:03 AM kevin_trapp - 2013-01-08 10:50 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:38 AM crowny2 - 2013-01-08 11:28 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 10:05 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 10:47 AM TriRSquared - 2013-01-08 9:25 AM But aren't we doing this wrong? You don't pick the top 4 from now. You pick the top 4 BEFORE the bowl games. The point is the big bowl games ARE the playoffs. If that's the case then it's ND, AL, FL & OR (granted FL choked BIG time against Louisville but I honestly think they would have put up a better fight against AL than ND) And there it is. The person talking about how it would've ended up... TRS, we were just saying if they held it after the bowls what would it look like. Right, but they wouldn't hold it after the bowls. So I'm not sure what the point was. And for the record even Louisville would have given a better game than ND. I'm not trying to argue FL into the NC game this year. They did not deserve it. But neither did ND. Why not? Did you watch that game? Add in their #33 strength of schedule and it's pretty clear to me they were not the #1 (or #2) team in the country. The argument against a playoff has always been that it devalues the regular season. And based on the regular season, ND deserved to play for the championship. Nobody beat them all year. How can you justify not having an undefeated team play for the championship? And if Terrelle Pryor had bought his own tattoos, the SEC would have been left out entirely, despite clearly being the best conference in the nation. Based on the season, the BCS got the two right teams. Based on the actual teams that got in, it's just proof that there needs to be a playoff. I'd say another improvement would be that the NCAA gets to decide 2 non-conference games for each team. Sorry Alabama, no playing Troy State this year. You get to play Ohio State. Sorry Oregon, no Hawaii for you, instead you'll play Texas. That would virtually guarantee marquee games every weekend and there'd be no hideouts like Ohio State did this year.
The "competition committee" is supposed to help this. We'll see how it plays out though. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-08 12:03 PM I'd say another improvement would be that the NCAA gets to decide 2 non-conference games for each team. Sorry Alabama, no playing Troy State this year. You get to play Ohio State. Sorry Oregon, no Hawaii for you, instead you'll play Texas. That would virtually guarantee marquee games every weekend and there'd be no hideouts like Ohio State did this year. In fairness, 'Bama did play Michigan to open the season this year, and PSU in '10 and '11. They played Va Tech the year before that. It's not like they've been hiding in the SEC every year. |
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Resident Curmudgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Don't forget that "hiding in the SEC" usually means playing four or five Top Twenty teams on your in-conference schedule. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2013-01-08 1:21 PM Don't forget that "hiding in the SEC" usually means playing four or five Top Twenty teams on your in-conference schedule. Oh, I'm aware - I just know that most people get tired of SEC homers pointing out that the league is the strongest. I'm from Tennessee, went to Vandy, and grad school at Florida. My brother went to UGA, and my step dad is a huge gamecocks fan (his son was even an assistant baseball coach there). Most of my family are huge UT fans, save for the people who married in that are from Kentucky. Until Mizzou joined the east, we had the entire SECe represented at Christmas. I'm known here in MD as the guy who won't shut up about the SEC. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jcnipper - 2013-01-08 1:59 PM the bear - 2013-01-08 1:21 PM Don't forget that "hiding in the SEC" usually means playing four or five Top Twenty teams on your in-conference schedule. Oh, I'm aware - I just know that most people get tired of SEC homers pointing out that the league is the strongest. I'm from Tennessee, went to Vandy, and grad school at Florida. My brother went to UGA, and my step dad is a huge gamecocks fan (his son was even an assistant baseball coach there). Most of my family are huge UT fans, save for the people who married in that are from Kentucky. Until Mizzou joined the east, we had the entire SECe represented at Christmas. I'm known here in MD as the guy who won't shut up about the SEC. |
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Sensei ![]() | ![]() I'm going to say Bama by 4 touchdowns. |
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