Yanti & Salty RidiculoSnarky Almost Intelligent-Charming Manatees PART 4 - Full (Page 61)
-
No new posts
BT Development | Mentor Program Archives » Yanti & Salty RidiculoSnarky Almost Intelligent-Charming Manatees PART 4 - Full | Rss Feed ![]() |
Moderators: alicefoeller | Reply |
|
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() |
|
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Asalzwed - 2012-08-20 1:26 PM ukweeble - 2012-08-20 2:51 AM Finished my very 1st Oly yesterday!!! Yeah me. RR will be up by the time you get your lazy *sses out of bed. (Except you Jo, Hope you had a good day at work.) Soooo we have given you more than enough time....what the frog? Yeah, what's up with that?! |
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() amd723 - 2012-08-20 7:37 PM During that race, I had 1 crustable on the bike and about 2 bottles of water. The weather was stupid hot (look it up, I'm sure that's what the weather folk said), the wind was strong with gusts over 20mph and as a result I spent more time (with a harder effort) on the bike, but did not account for it with my nutrition. I have one 20 oz bottle of water per hour. I do not tolerate sports drinks very well so I usually add electrolytes (Nuun, etc.) to the two bottles that I start with and get plain water on the course. My coach thinks that what I eat is weird but it's what I do in training as well. Take this with a grain of salt and figure out what works best for you. I have two fig newtons (~100 calories) at the beginning of the bike. I ride a few miles to get the blood in my legs, etc. and then eat. Then, at the one hour mark, I have a Cliff bar (~240 calories). I then continued with the Clif bars about every hour. My coach would prefer that I eat something small every 15 minutes or so. Like I said, you'll need to figure out what foods work best for you. If you recall, Chris asked me to calculate what I ate during the IM and it worked out to 250 calories per hour on the bike. On the run, 1 gel at about the one mile mark, 5 mile mark and 10 mile mark. Water every chance it's offered. Train with whatever brand they are offering on the course. Over the last couple of weeks, I have been experimenting with honey stinger gels and waffles on the bike. They seem to sit well with me and i actually kind of like them. I've been taking 1 gel every 1 -1.25 hours. Yes, honey stinger waffles are awesome! I love them on the bike! They are also very bento box friendly. I've been "researching" nutrition for the HIM and it seems to be all over the place. Some people are consuming 350 or more calories per hour on the bike and others only up to 200 per bike hours. They all seem to back off a bit on the run. Yes, I can tolerate a lot more food on the bike than the run. Then I found this http://triathlon.competitor.com/2012/05/nutrition/simple-ironman-70... article from Matt Fitzgerald. Here's a snippet since i'm sure the link won't work - Keep it simple,” I wrote. “Too many triathletes over-think and overdo their race nutrition.” I told him to drink his favorite sports drink according to his thirst throughout the bike leg and to drink the sports drink offered at fluid stations on the run course according to his thirst as well. That’s it. Anything fancier, I said, would be unlikely to make him go faster and would only increase the risk that he would encounter a self-inflicted issue such as stomach bloating and nausea. I know nutrition is highly personal and you need to experiment to see what works for you. However, I'm sure there must be some generally accepted guidelines for how many calories a person should consume per hour. I'm also sure that amount is related to the weight of the consumer (among other variables) Fitzgerald says you should get about 60 grams of carbs per hour on the bike. Which really doesn't help me b/c he has not done me the favor of converting that into calories Carbs grams are 4 calories each. 240 calories if all are carbs. Nancy Clark might also be a good reference although I think that folks consider her to be somewhat unfashionable these days. |
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Just checking in -- I'll catch up on posts tomorrow. I got a full body massage this afternoon. Wow. Amazing. I think I might be losing one of my toenails. Does that make me a real runner? We spent this evening visiting a dear friend who suffered a stroke a couple weeks ago. She's recovering remarkably -- in a rehabilitation center probably for another few weeks. Little boys are having a great time in school. Oldest son seems eager for school to start for him (on Wednesday). I start teaching on Wednesday, and I'm not ready. Losing this afternoon and evening didn't help, but the massage was a gift to me from my boss for the part of my job I quit last spring, and I needed to get it done before my schedule gets crazy. I have enough on my gift certificate for another massage. And we needed to see my friend for the same reason. Did I say that my toenail is annoying me? |
![]() ![]() |
Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KansasMom - 2012-08-20 11:24 PM My toenails never look pretty but I've not lost any so I'm happy! Oh now a massage or a facial would be very nice indeed.Just checking in -- I'll catch up on posts tomorrow. I got a full body massage this afternoon. Wow. Amazing. I think I might be losing one of my toenails. Does that make me a real runner? We spent this evening visiting a dear friend who suffered a stroke a couple weeks ago. She's recovering remarkably -- in a rehabilitation center probably for another few weeks. Little boys are having a great time in school. Oldest son seems eager for school to start for him (on Wednesday). I start teaching on Wednesday, and I'm not ready. Losing this afternoon and evening didn't help, but the massage was a gift to me from my boss for the part of my job I quit last spring, and I needed to get it done before my schedule gets crazy. I have enough on my gift certificate for another massage. And we needed to see my friend for the same reason. Did I say that my toenail is annoying me? Hope your friend makes a full recovery. |
![]() ![]() |
![]() | ![]() KansasMom - 2012-08-20 11:24 PM I have yet to lose a nail but I'm pretty close after my last marathon. I wear a lot more nail polish than I used to for sure.Just checking in -- I'll catch up on posts tomorrow. I got a full body massage this afternoon. Wow. Amazing. I think I might be losing one of my toenails. Does that make me a real runner? We spent this evening visiting a dear friend who suffered a stroke a couple weeks ago. She's recovering remarkably -- in a rehabilitation center probably for another few weeks. Little boys are having a great time in school. Oldest son seems eager for school to start for him (on Wednesday). I start teaching on Wednesday, and I'm not ready. Losing this afternoon and evening didn't help, but the massage was a gift to me from my boss for the part of my job I quit last spring, and I needed to get it done before my schedule gets crazy. I have enough on my gift certificate for another massage. And we needed to see my friend for the same reason. Did I say that my toenail is annoying me? |
|
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I have one 20 oz bottle of water per hour. I do not tolerate sports drinks very well so I usually add electrolytes (Nuun, etc.) to the two bottles that I start with and get plain water on the course. My coach thinks that what I eat is weird but it's what I do in training as well. Take this with a grain of salt and figure out what works best for you. I have two fig newtons (~100 calories) at the beginning of the bike. I ride a few miles to get the blood in my legs, etc. and then eat. Then, at the one hour mark, I have a Cliff bar (~240 calories). I then continued with the Clif bars about every hour. My coach would prefer that I eat something small every 15 minutes or so. Like I said, you'll need to figure out what foods work best for you. If you recall, Chris asked me to calculate what I ate during the IM and it worked out to 250 calories per hour on the bike. On the run, 1 gel at about the one mile mark, 5 mile mark and 10 mile mark. Water every chance it's offered. Train with whatever brand they are offering on the course. Carbs grams are 4 calories each. 240 calories if all are carbs. Nancy Clark might also be a good reference although I think that folks consider her to be somewhat unfashionable these days. ------------------------------ Do you consume that many calories per hour for a HIM too or is this specific to your IM? Edited by amd723 2012-08-21 7:00 AM |
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() amd723 - 2012-08-20 8:11 PM Thanks, I don't think I can consume a lot of solid food either on the bike or run, so I guess I should start experimenting with infinit or the like along with honey stingers. I definitely need to do something about paying attention to fluid intake. In the spirit of not complicating things, I'd start with what they are serving on course. I looks like Rev3 uses PowerBar and Gatorade. If nothing else, it is good to know how you tolerate the on course products so you can make an educated decision mid race. That being said, I would have carried my Clif bars on the bike at Vineman even if Clif was not the on course nutrition. I |
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() amd723 - 2012-08-21 7:16 AM I have one 20 oz bottle of water per hour. I do not tolerate sports drinks very well so I usually add electrolytes (Nuun, etc.) to the two bottles that I start with and get plain water on the course. My coach thinks that what I eat is weird but it's what I do in training as well. Take this with a grain of salt and figure out what works best for you. I have two fig newtons (~100 calories) at the beginning of the bike. I ride a few miles to get the blood in my legs, etc. and then eat. Then, at the one hour mark, I have a Cliff bar (~240 calories). I then continued with the Clif bars about every hour. My coach would prefer that I eat something small every 15 minutes or so. Like I said, you'll need to figure out what foods work best for you. If you recall, Chris asked me to calculate what I ate during the IM and it worked out to 250 calories per hour on the bike. On the run, 1 gel at about the one mile mark, 5 mile mark and 10 mile mark. Water every chance it's offered. Train with whatever brand they are offering on the course. Carbs grams are 4 calories each. 240 calories if all are carbs. Nancy Clark might also be a good reference although I think that folks consider her to be somewhat unfashionable these days. ------------------------------ Do you consume that many calories per hour for a HIM too or is this specific to your IM? About the same for HIM on the bike.
I was advised to not eat in transition or at the very beginning of the next segment. Allow your body to put the blood where it needs for the bike/run instead of having your body decide that digestion is it's #1 priority. That means, get on the bike, ride steady but not crazy fast or anything, once cruising comfortable and heart rate has stabilized a bit, eat/drink something. At the end of the bike, switch off solid foods if you are using them. |
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jmkizer - 2012-08-21 7:41 AM amd723 - 2012-08-21 7:16 AM I have one 20 oz bottle of water per hour. I do not tolerate sports drinks very well so I usually add electrolytes (Nuun, etc.) to the two bottles that I start with and get plain water on the course. My coach thinks that what I eat is weird but it's what I do in training as well. Take this with a grain of salt and figure out what works best for you. I have two fig newtons (~100 calories) at the beginning of the bike. I ride a few miles to get the blood in my legs, etc. and then eat. Then, at the one hour mark, I have a Cliff bar (~240 calories). I then continued with the Clif bars about every hour. My coach would prefer that I eat something small every 15 minutes or so. Like I said, you'll need to figure out what foods work best for you. If you recall, Chris asked me to calculate what I ate during the IM and it worked out to 250 calories per hour on the bike. On the run, 1 gel at about the one mile mark, 5 mile mark and 10 mile mark. Water every chance it's offered. Train with whatever brand they are offering on the course. Carbs grams are 4 calories each. 240 calories if all are carbs. Nancy Clark might also be a good reference although I think that folks consider her to be somewhat unfashionable these days. ------------------------------ Do you consume that many calories per hour for a HIM too or is this specific to your IM? About the same for HIM on the bike.
I was advised to not eat in transition or at the very beginning of the next segment. Allow your body to put the blood where it needs for the bike/run instead of having your body decide that digestion is it's #1 priority. That means, get on the bike, ride steady but not crazy fast or anything, once cruising comfortable and heart rate has stabilized a bit, eat/drink something. At the end of the bike, switch off solid foods if you are using them.
__________________________
Thanks, based upon what everyone has posted, even accounting for my normal low calorie consumption, I WAY under did (ignore the grammar) my nutrition on my first HIM. I guess i need to really start trying to up the calories and will try to incorporate powerbars (I already know gatorade is ok) into the mix. Of course, with so many calories it's going to be hard to lose the 5lbs i put on over the last year or so Edited by amd723 2012-08-21 9:12 AM |
![]() ![]() |
Science Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() What's up with all this talk about training and real nutrition? I want a race nutrition strategy based on PopTarts and candy. |
|
![]() ![]() |
Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Artemis - 2012-08-21 10:24 PM What's up with all this talk about training and real nutrition? I want a race nutrition strategy based on PopTarts and candy. That's what I'm here for. |
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Artemis - 2012-08-21 10:24 AM What's up with all this talk about training and real nutrition? I want a race nutrition strategy based on PopTarts and candy. I tried Twizzlers but they required a lot of chewing and the whole breathing thing became a problem for me. Pop Tarts have 32g carbs and 200 calories per serving, according to nutritiondata. With 9g of fat per serving, they might not digest quickly enough for some so experimentation would be required. |
![]() ![]() |
![]() | ![]() Quick trainer question: Is there a problem with leaving the bike trainer outside? Someone in TT was saying not to that morning dew could cause an issue. I keep it on the screened in porch so it can't get rained on or anything just curious on yalls thoughts. |
![]() ![]() |
Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Tripopo - 2012-08-21 10:41 PM Quick trainer question: Is there a problem with leaving the bike trainer outside? Someone in TT was saying not to that morning dew could cause an issue. I keep it on the screened in porch so it can't get rained on or anything just curious on yalls thoughts. I would keep anything you value that has metal parts in as dry an environment as possible, especially if you're near the sea. |
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jmkizer - 2012-08-21 7:30 AM Artemis - 2012-08-21 10:24 AM What's up with all this talk about training and real nutrition? I want a race nutrition strategy based on PopTarts and candy. I tried Twizzlers but they required a lot of chewing and the whole breathing thing became a problem for me. Pop Tarts have 32g carbs and 200 calories per serving, according to nutritiondata. With 9g of fat per serving, they might not digest quickly enough for some so experimentation would be required. Yes, fat bad on HIM. Took one bite of bar I carried with me on the bike--and my stomach rebelled. Nutrient content similar to poptarts. |
|
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Put in 13km last night of the 16km run that was on my schedule. Started having some soreness in my foot and knee around 9km, but still had to get home ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() amd723 - 2012-08-21 7:12 AM jmkizer - 2012-08-21 7:41 AM amd723 - 2012-08-21 7:16 AM I have one 20 oz bottle of water per hour. I do not tolerate sports drinks very well so I usually add electrolytes (Nuun, etc.) to the two bottles that I start with and get plain water on the course. My coach thinks that what I eat is weird but it's what I do in training as well. Take this with a grain of salt and figure out what works best for you. I have two fig newtons (~100 calories) at the beginning of the bike. I ride a few miles to get the blood in my legs, etc. and then eat. Then, at the one hour mark, I have a Cliff bar (~240 calories). I then continued with the Clif bars about every hour. My coach would prefer that I eat something small every 15 minutes or so. Like I said, you'll need to figure out what foods work best for you. If you recall, Chris asked me to calculate what I ate during the IM and it worked out to 250 calories per hour on the bike. On the run, 1 gel at about the one mile mark, 5 mile mark and 10 mile mark. Water every chance it's offered. Train with whatever brand they are offering on the course. Carbs grams are 4 calories each. 240 calories if all are carbs. Nancy Clark might also be a good reference although I think that folks consider her to be somewhat unfashionable these days. ------------------------------ Do you consume that many calories per hour for a HIM too or is this specific to your IM? About the same for HIM on the bike.
I was advised to not eat in transition or at the very beginning of the next segment. Allow your body to put the blood where it needs for the bike/run instead of having your body decide that digestion is it's #1 priority. That means, get on the bike, ride steady but not crazy fast or anything, once cruising comfortable and heart rate has stabilized a bit, eat/drink something. At the end of the bike, switch off solid foods if you are using them.
__________________________
Thanks, based upon what everyone has posted, even accounting for my normal low calorie consumption, I WAY under did (ignore the grammar) my nutrition on my first HIM. I guess i need to really start trying to up the calories and will try to incorporate powerbars (I already know gatorade is ok) into the mix. Of course, with so many calories it's going to be hard to lose the 5lbs i put on over the last year or so Ann-Marie, I have found that for me proper nutrition and fuelling does not go hand-in-hand with weight loss. I try for weight loss during the off season and maintain during the season |
![]() ![]() |
![]() | ![]() jmkizer - 2012-08-21 9:30 AM Poptarts and experimentation, that's more like it. PS I have a broken spoke on the rear wheel. Book!Artemis - 2012-08-21 10:24 AM What's up with all this talk about training and real nutrition? I want a race nutrition strategy based on PopTarts and candy. I tried Twizzlers but they required a lot of chewing and the whole breathing thing became a problem for me. Pop Tarts have 32g carbs and 200 calories per serving, according to nutritiondata. With 9g of fat per serving, they might not digest quickly enough for some so experimentation would be required. |
![]() ![]() |
Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Asalzwed - 2012-08-21 11:34 PM jmkizer - 2012-08-21 9:30 AM Poptarts and experimentation, that's more like it. PS I have a broken spoke on the rear wheel. Book!Artemis - 2012-08-21 10:24 AM What's up with all this talk about training and real nutrition? I want a race nutrition strategy based on PopTarts and candy. I tried Twizzlers but they required a lot of chewing and the whole breathing thing became a problem for me. Pop Tarts have 32g carbs and 200 calories per serving, according to nutritiondata. With 9g of fat per serving, they might not digest quickly enough for some so experimentation would be required. I plan to do a whole lotta more Pop Tart experimentation over the next few weeks. Broken spoke?! From the race, transport, or who knows? |
![]() ![]() |
![]() | ![]() TriAya - 2012-08-21 10:36 AM yeah, not sure. Didn't notice it until after my ride yesterday. That's probably a bike shop thing, eh? And I probably shouldn't ride it until its fixed? Asalzwed - 2012-08-21 11:34 PM jmkizer - 2012-08-21 9:30 AM Poptarts and experimentation, that's more like it. PS I have a broken spoke on the rear wheel. Book!Artemis - 2012-08-21 10:24 AM What's up with all this talk about training and real nutrition? I want a race nutrition strategy based on PopTarts and candy. I tried Twizzlers but they required a lot of chewing and the whole breathing thing became a problem for me. Pop Tarts have 32g carbs and 200 calories per serving, according to nutritiondata. With 9g of fat per serving, they might not digest quickly enough for some so experimentation would be required. I plan to do a whole lotta more Pop Tart experimentation over the next few weeks. Broken spoke?! From the race, transport, or who knows? |
|
![]() ![]() |
Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My mom is driving me crazy. I don't usually live here, so in her head my bedroom door is supposed to be open, with the hall light on (no particular reason, I guess that's just the way it looks right to her). Needless to say, my bedroom door being opened and my nice dark cool room being flooded with light is not how I particularly like to wake up--and not 20 times a day when I'm sick, either. I duct-taped the hall light switch and have locked my bedroom door. I hate confusing her like that, but hopefully, eventually, she'll go away. List this one under humorous shenanigans, to be honest. |
![]() ![]() |
![]() | ![]() TriAya - 2012-08-21 10:41 AM Cruel vampire ladyMy mom is driving me crazy. I don't usually live here, so in her head my bedroom door is supposed to be open, with the hall light on (no particular reason, I guess that's just the way it looks right to her). Needless to say, my bedroom door being opened and my nice dark cool room being flooded with light is not how I particularly like to wake up--and not 20 times a day when I'm sick, either. I duct-taped the hall light switch and have locked my bedroom door. I hate confusing her like that, but hopefully, eventually, she'll go away. List this one under humorous shenanigans, to be honest. |
![]() ![]() |
Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Asalzwed - 2012-08-21 11:43 PM TriAya - 2012-08-21 10:41 AM Cruel vampire ladyMy mom is driving me crazy. I don't usually live here, so in her head my bedroom door is supposed to be open, with the hall light on (no particular reason, I guess that's just the way it looks right to her). Needless to say, my bedroom door being opened and my nice dark cool room being flooded with light is not how I particularly like to wake up--and not 20 times a day when I'm sick, either. I duct-taped the hall light switch and have locked my bedroom door. I hate confusing her like that, but hopefully, eventually, she'll go away. List this one under humorous shenanigans, to be honest. Snerk. At least I didn't put a huge sign on the light switch that said something like, "PRESS HERE FOR EXPLOSION" |
![]() ![]() |
![]() | ![]() jmkizer - 2012-08-20 6:45 PM Asalzwed - 2012-08-20 6:35 PM I also keep thinking about your comment about buying a tri bike. It's one of those things about triathlon that I have hang-ups about. I think it really sucks that someone's bike/helmet budget can determine a portion of their placing in a race. I was watching this poor girl beast-moding it up one of the hills in the triathlon on an old mountain bike vs. the girls on their 4K TT bikes. I sit somewhere in the middle-likely closer to the mountain bike end, haha. Also, I hate that mechanical failure can also dictate your race. Something that could completely be out of your control. Hmmmmmm...those are just some of my thoughts. Oh, I meant to say something about the bike. First off, Reece was how fast in IM Kansas (mapmyride gives it about 1200 climbing feet, don't know if that's right)? And PB rides a roadie, I believe. He has a mighty strong engine! Secondly, IMHO, the flatter and straighter the course is, the more a tri bike will buy you. IMC is not flat. If you can comfortably complete 100 miles on the bike (no damage to lady parts, etc.), I think that you are fine with a roadie if you choose to go that way. If you really *want* a tri bike, that's another thing altogether. Thanks for saying exactly what I was trying to put into words, Janyne! I was thinking that, too. A decent roadie is a better pick for probably the majority of IM courses, as most are fairly hilly and roadies are better climbers. |
BT Development | Mentor Program Archives » Yanti & Salty RidiculoSnarky Almost Intelligent-Charming Manatees PART 4 - Full | Rss Feed ![]() |
|