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 2016-06-13 2:41 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Master  4452   |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deuxMy race...Well, the swim was in the weedy end of the lake, but they shortened it to 1.5km rather than 1.9km (0.9 of a mile rather than 1.2) to keep us out of the really bad stuff. But I would have swum the entire thing if they would have fixed the swim exit which was ridiculous. It was a floating dock/ramp, but you couldn't climb out yourself, you had to have a vollie give you a hand up. Problem was, the vollies could only get so close, or they would slip/fall/be pulled in. And there weren't enough of them. There was nothing to grab onto to pull yourself up enough to reach them either, so it was a scramble-grab. We were 5 deep in the water trying to get out. The bike was not great either; course was okay, better than in the past, but it was open in parts that should have been closed. I watched a car driving straddling the line between two lanes trying to turn right between cyclists. There was one out and back that was a long hill, up on the out, down on the back. People were going up one side and screaming along at 50km/hr down the other with cars driving up the middle of the road. Asinine. Despite it all, I was happy with my race. I felt undertrained, and had a lot of arguments with the voice in my head that told me I couldn't do it, but made it through. I am feeling not too badly today, tired and a bit sore. I do have the most fantastical blister on my left arch for some reason |
| 2016-06-13 2:44 PM in reply to: marysia83 |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by popsracer Thanks for checking - I will have the report soon. The race was a blast!!! Two most important points: 1) I loved the swim part! 2) I enjoyed the swim more than running! The whole contact/crowd thing was actually a lots of fun Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by DaveL This past weekend I volunteered on the Ride to Conquer Cancer as a Bike Tech. The ride itself is 2 days, 200km total and 4253 participants raised $17.3M for cancer research. The Saturday was quite hot and also windy which added to the challenge for many of the riders. Sunday was a little cooler but still sunny clear skys. My bike tech partner and I rode the course while fixing at least a dozen flat tires, booted a few shredded tires, fixed a number of dropped and chain sucked chains and offered encouragement to dozens of riders. This is so great! Both: raising funds for the research, and your volunteer work  I'm so glad so many folks could complete the race thanks to your assistance. I always salute to those "bike rangers" and race guards, and all other volunteers. In the race I completed yesterday we had "swim angels" for the swim part: swimmers who helped us with some emotional support. It was so cool I want to do it one day as well, once my swim is better How did your swim go? Did you experience much contact? My wave entered the water and immediately started joking how we are a one pack that is trying to go through. It was pretty shallow for maybe 20 meters and we all were just walking through the water like a bunch of penguins. Once we did some attempts to swim we were all in contact, and we were all laughing and joking about it. Everyone was so understanding and supportive, girls were saying "oh, I'm sorry; are you okey? You're fine; don't worry; sorry" I shouted: "no worries, we're all on this together" and somebody replied: "yeah, we're LITERALLY together". It got way less crowded by the first buoy already (about 125 meters) and then pretty clear for the whole race. I barely touched maybe two people later. My sighting was excellent - to my surprise, because I only tried maybe twice in the pool and I failed miserably. It came so natural, as if I was born with this. I really, really enjoyed it. It was unbelievable. I also had an approach of: slow, relaxing pace, just take it easy. And I can imagine it helped. I did not set any time goals for swim leg, thus, it was a great surprise for me to see I made it in 16:28 (my swim time in pool was 18:30 and I thought it would be closer to 20 minutes in open water. I swam this distance in 24 minutes in breaststroke last year). I thought I missed one of the lanes, it was such a shocker  It gave me a lot of motivation for the rest of the race. Anyways, THANK YOU for your support! It was an awesome experience and a lesson for me that I should not worry about such silly things. I should focus on enjoying the race Great job Mary! |
| 2016-06-13 2:44 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 6834    Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer I’m behind here after a busy weekend and all morning meeting (blarg!). Edited to fix formatting. I have a whole list of ancillary skills, like flip turns, goggle loss, bike handling, belt putting on, etc. Probably due to the fact I've lost time in races from lost bottles, head smacked goggle removal, dropped belts , and such. Some you can practice for, others, not so much. Seriously though, bikehandling is one that I think we as a whole community of riders would benefit from. Not just in racing, but in general riding. Some stuff I've seen really makes me shake my head. |
| 2016-06-13 2:45 PM in reply to: juniperjen |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by Asalzwed I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. WOW! Awesome work out there :D x2! |
| 2016-06-13 2:46 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer Speaking of hydration and electorlytes -- Do any of you use Base Salt? Thoughts? In another discussion Robin said Base Salt is a must. I found this discussion a good source of information and comparison: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... |
| 2016-06-13 2:49 PM in reply to: IronOx |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by IronOx My race...Well, the swim was in the weedy end of the lake, but they shortened it to 1.5km rather than 1.9km (0.9 of a mile rather than 1.2) to keep us out of the really bad stuff. But I would have swum the entire thing if they would have fixed the swim exit which was ridiculous. It was a floating dock/ramp, but you couldn't climb out yourself, you had to have a vollie give you a hand up. Problem was, the vollies could only get so close, or they would slip/fall/be pulled in. And there weren't enough of them. There was nothing to grab onto to pull yourself up enough to reach them either, so it was a scramble-grab. We were 5 deep in the water trying to get out. The bike was not great either; course was okay, better than in the past, but it was open in parts that should have been closed. I watched a car driving straddling the line between two lanes trying to turn right between cyclists. There was one out and back that was a long hill, up on the out, down on the back. People were going up one side and screaming along at 50km/hr down the other with cars driving up the middle of the road. Asinine. Despite it all, I was happy with my race. I felt undertrained, and had a lot of arguments with the voice in my head that told me I couldn't do it, but made it through. I am feeling not too badly today, tired and a bit sore. I do have the most fantastical blister on my left arch for some reason Oh gosh, it sounds so horrifying! The swim exit situation must've been super obnoxious... How come nobody thought about that process?? Sorry about the ride part, once again: who did not think that through?? I'm really glad you made it safe. And I'm really happy you enjoyed it |
| 2016-06-13 2:50 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I am speechless Originally posted by amd723 I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible.  There are no words.... I know it's really easy to dwell on what happened, especially from the LGBT perspective, as a set-back. But the response I have seen is the exact opposite. One person's terrible actions don't really reflect how far we have come. But we still have a long way to go. The important and really beautiful thing is that we are not helpless. We simply need to go out of our way to love one another, unconditionally. I got a call from a VM from a friend whose grandson is gay. She said that she was just speaking to him and his mom (who has been crying for hours out of fear for her son--in general because he is gay and could be a target, not because he was involved). She felt the need to call and tell us how sorry she was. I totally appreciate the sentiment, but this is not about LGBTQ in my opinion. This is about one person's hate and lack of understanding. Chris' instagram said it well. "Reach out with interest...find common ground" Hurting another does nothing to further your life, health or wealth. We all have prejudices and judgments. But when you recognize them, turn them around to understanding and love. I so wanted to put that in there, but couldn't find the right words. I may not agree with someone's choices or actions in life (just to be clear, this is every and any choice or action or whatever), but the important part is to understand the person. That is how we become better people as an entire society. |
| 2016-06-13 2:58 PM in reply to: marysia83 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by jmkizer In another discussion Robin said Base Salt is a must. I found this discussion a good source of information and comparison: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... Speaking of hydration and electorlytes -- Do any of you use Base Salt? Thoughts? I sweat pretty heavy for an individual. Like, really heavily. I really, really hesitate to turn to any product like base salt, endurolyte etc. etc. rather move to a diet of real foods that provide the things your body needs and make that part of your way of living. I don't do anything special before, during or after a race than I do day to day, the exception being translating fuel to what I can carry with me (ie convenience)
The more and more I have experimented with this idea, as an athlete, the more I trust in it. |
| 2016-06-13 3:06 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I am speechless Originally posted by amd723 I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible. There are no words.... I know it's really easy to dwell on what happened, especially from the LGBT perspective, as a set-back. But the response I have seen is the exact opposite. One person's terrible actions don't really reflect how far we have come. But we still have a long way to go. The important and really beautiful thing is that we are not helpless. We simply need to go out of our way to love one another, unconditionally. I got a call from a VM from a friend whose grandson is gay. She said that she was just speaking to him and his mom (who has been crying for hours out of fear for her son--in general because he is gay and could be a target, not because he was involved). She felt the need to call and tell us how sorry she was. I totally appreciate the sentiment, but this is not about LGBTQ in my opinion. This is about one person's hate and lack of understanding. Chris' instagram said it well. "Reach out with interest...find common ground" Hurting another does nothing to further your life, health or wealth. We all have prejudices and judgments. But when you recognize them, turn them around to understanding and love. I so wanted to put that in there, but couldn't find the right words. I may not agree with someone's choices or actions in life (just to be clear, this is every and any choice or action or whatever), but the important part is to understand the person. That is how we become better people as an entire society. Kirsten, I agree, however I would actually say it's not JUST about LGBTQ. It's about all of us and notably American Muslims who may feel quite isolated right now. Chris, I too really like that part you mentioned about acknowledging our prejudices. And on the other side of that, if you meet someone who hasn't yet arrived at this, take the opportunity to talk through the hate and fear with them. Way easier said than done, I know. If you have a moment, read this: http://kuow.org/post/orlando-shooter-and-my-student
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| 2016-06-13 3:08 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I am speechless Originally posted by amd723 I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible. There are no words.... I know it's really easy to dwell on what happened, especially from the LGBT perspective, as a set-back. But the response I have seen is the exact opposite. One person's terrible actions don't really reflect how far we have come. But we still have a long way to go. The important and really beautiful thing is that we are not helpless. We simply need to go out of our way to love one another, unconditionally. I got a call from a VM from a friend whose grandson is gay. She said that she was just speaking to him and his mom (who has been crying for hours out of fear for her son--in general because he is gay and could be a target, not because he was involved). She felt the need to call and tell us how sorry she was. I totally appreciate the sentiment, but this is not about LGBTQ in my opinion. This is about one person's hate and lack of understanding. Chris' instagram said it well. "Reach out with interest...find common ground" Hurting another does nothing to further your life, health or wealth. We all have prejudices and judgments. But when you recognize them, turn them around to understanding and love. I so wanted to put that in there, but couldn't find the right words. I may not agree with someone's choices or actions in life (just to be clear, this is every and any choice or action or whatever), but the important part is to understand the person. That is how we become better people as an entire society. Kirsten, I agree, however I would actually say it's not JUST about LGBTQ. It's about all of us and notably American Muslims who may feel quite isolated right now. Chris, I too really like that part you mentioned about acknowledging our prejudices. And on the other side of that, if you meet someone who hasn't yet arrived at this, take the opportunity to talk through the hate and fear with them. Way easier said than done, I know. If you have a moment, read this: http://kuow.org/post/orlando-shooter-and-my-student
Could you imagine being painted with the overarching brush of prejudice that many are using right now? Painful for some individuals, I'm sure. And while I know that some have felt this way for a while about things in their own lives, I struggle with the hatred in exchange for hatred, the anger for anger and all of the sadness that goes along with it at this time. I am truly sorry for if I have ever made anyone here or elsewhere feel like this. I just want it to stop. Edited by cdban66 2016-06-13 3:13 PM |
| 2016-06-13 3:10 PM in reply to: IronOx |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by IronOx My race...Well, the swim was in the weedy end of the lake, but they shortened it to 1.5km rather than 1.9km (0.9 of a mile rather than 1.2) to keep us out of the really bad stuff. But I would have swum the entire thing if they would have fixed the swim exit which was ridiculous. It was a floating dock/ramp, but you couldn't climb out yourself, you had to have a vollie give you a hand up. Problem was, the vollies could only get so close, or they would slip/fall/be pulled in. And there weren't enough of them. There was nothing to grab onto to pull yourself up enough to reach them either, so it was a scramble-grab. We were 5 deep in the water trying to get out. The bike was not great either; course was okay, better than in the past, but it was open in parts that should have been closed. I watched a car driving straddling the line between two lanes trying to turn right between cyclists. There was one out and back that was a long hill, up on the out, down on the back. People were going up one side and screaming along at 50km/hr down the other with cars driving up the middle of the road. Asinine. Despite it all, I was happy with my race. I felt undertrained, and had a lot of arguments with the voice in my head that told me I couldn't do it, but made it through. I am feeling not too badly today, tired and a bit sore. I do have the most fantastical blister on my left arch for some reason Great work Kirsten. A big win I might mention is that you didn't at all mention the run not being great. Which I can only think means it was great |
| 2016-06-13 3:11 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by IronOx My race...Well, the swim was in the weedy end of the lake, but they shortened it to 1.5km rather than 1.9km (0.9 of a mile rather than 1.2) to keep us out of the really bad stuff. But I would have swum the entire thing if they would have fixed the swim exit which was ridiculous. It was a floating dock/ramp, but you couldn't climb out yourself, you had to have a vollie give you a hand up. Problem was, the vollies could only get so close, or they would slip/fall/be pulled in. And there weren't enough of them. There was nothing to grab onto to pull yourself up enough to reach them either, so it was a scramble-grab. We were 5 deep in the water trying to get out. The bike was not great either; course was okay, better than in the past, but it was open in parts that should have been closed. I watched a car driving straddling the line between two lanes trying to turn right between cyclists. There was one out and back that was a long hill, up on the out, down on the back. People were going up one side and screaming along at 50km/hr down the other with cars driving up the middle of the road. Asinine. Despite it all, I was happy with my race. I felt undertrained, and had a lot of arguments with the voice in my head that told me I couldn't do it, but made it through. I am feeling not too badly today, tired and a bit sore. I do have the most fantastical blister on my left arch for some reason Good job getting 'er done! |
| 2016-06-13 3:19 PM in reply to: 0 |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I am speechless Originally posted by amd723 I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible. There are no words.... I know it's really easy to dwell on what happened, especially from the LGBT perspective, as a set-back. But the response I have seen is the exact opposite. One person's terrible actions don't really reflect how far we have come. But we still have a long way to go. The important and really beautiful thing is that we are not helpless. We simply need to go out of our way to love one another, unconditionally. I got a call from a VM from a friend whose grandson is gay. She said that she was just speaking to him and his mom (who has been crying for hours out of fear for her son--in general because he is gay and could be a target, not because he was involved). She felt the need to call and tell us how sorry she was. I totally appreciate the sentiment, but this is not about LGBTQ in my opinion. This is about one person's hate and lack of understanding. Chris' instagram said it well. "Reach out with interest...find common ground" Hurting another does nothing to further your life, health or wealth. We all have prejudices and judgments. But when you recognize them, turn them around to understanding and love. I so wanted to put that in there, but couldn't find the right words. I may not agree with someone's choices or actions in life (just to be clear, this is every and any choice or action or whatever), but the important part is to understand the person. That is how we become better people as an entire society. Kirsten, I agree, however I would actually say it's not JUST about LGBTQ. It's about all of us and notably American Muslims who may feel quite isolated right now. Chris, I too really like that part you mentioned about acknowledging our prejudices. And on the other side of that, if you meet someone who hasn't yet arrived at this, take the opportunity to talk through the hate and fear with them. Way easier said than done, I know. If you have a moment, read this: http://kuow.org/post/orlando-shooter-and-my-student
This is a great read! Thank you for sharing. I keep asking myself what I can do to make this world a better place. And do I actually have any power??? Every discussion with some of my friends (about 2% of my friends are basically anti-anything) ends with nothing productive and I just gave up trying to convince some people to change their mind. What I am doing I try to educate people who are not sure, who are in the middle of the road. I use tons of knowledge from my psychology class on sexual development (I noticed people tend to listen if you back it up with some neuro-science. At least sometimes). The other thing I'm doing is educating my kids. Well, not just educating. Showing them this actually is a natural thing and not something out of the norm. I explain my kids that what maters is love and respect, and not the body that covers the heart. I kind of trained my kids to advocate these statements among other kids. My daughter is only 6, but I'd rather have her understand life now and not when she's teenager. So we had plenty of conversations of women can marry woman, and man can marry man, and if mom will marry woman it will be fine as well, because love is what matters. Then some silly stories of girls can have short hair and guys can have long hair, etc... Thankfully, my kids' school is very supportive on diversity. It creates much better environment. Edited by marysia83 2016-06-13 3:20 PM |
| 2016-06-13 3:32 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by jmkizer ^^I thought the same thing. Originally posted by rrrunner So here's the latest on the coaching conundrum... I talked to Justin, the ultra guy. He was quite honest that he doesn't know the first thing about writing a bike plan and told me to go with the Ironman guy and that a 50 mile plan is similar to a marathon plan with longer long runs. Well yeah but... So I text Scott, the Ironman guy, and he apologized for not having gotten the info to me (it's been two weeks) and said he'd have it within 48 hours. I responded that I am still contemplating writing my own plan and that I would understand if he didn't want to spend the time putting together a proposal since I might decide not to hire him at this time. He said it's no problem and that he hopes to get to it tonight. So there we are. Well, at least Justin was honest with you. If you decide to go down that path at later time, he seems receptive so that is good. Michi is a no go? Uhhh hmm. I obviously missed the background info on this but it definitely sounds like a big fat no on both. I don't see why you can't write your own. Hmm BT is going a little wonky with quoting Mind is wanting to say something as well, but can't remember enough of the background in either to really be sure. Like timing of the events, or notable things about the courses (from a training perspective). Don't know if anything has changed or updated with this. Mind keeps coming back to it. If you want a coach, I do lean towards one with ultra experience. I'm also really wondering about needing a coach that much for the bike. It's possible that part is being overthought though a refresh on the background could help there. A metric century is a ways, but it's not really a crazy distance. Just having a bike set up to fit you well and the experience of going long with anything can do a lot. I know I ride a lot, but Adrienne managed to do over 200 miles in a single ride before. If I looked at the right course, it seemed like there was a lot of downhill in the last 10-12 miles or so too. For me, at least, run endurance makes it easier to get bike fitness. I hope that makes sense. I mean, if you can run x hours, it seems easier to build up the time in the saddle. That being said, if you were to focus on the ultra, you'd still need a few days a week on the bike. Maybe shorter during the week and a longer day on the weekend. I don't think that you'll have a hard time finding hills to work. It looks like your 100k has one big climb from 33-50 so if you could ride a 2-4% grade for that long... Also, I think there is a rest stop during the climb portion so you have a built in break. Yeah, part of it is just being active. And running is harder on you than cycling is. It's not optimal, but it's not nothing towards it either. I'm not sure the hills are actually necessary at all though it will be helpful to have some experience going against something that is slowing you down. Into the wind will do this too. Since that climb is so long, I think some smaller steeper sections might be kind of drowned out. These can be taken care of by retaining some familiarity with working a bit harder. Don't have to be great at it or really drive up an adaptation. Just so the feeling isn't completely foreign come the day. Also know that longer stuff wouldn't have to be all that long. If 90 minutes is rather easy then this should be doable as on the bike you can go several times longer than what you're familiar with. My brother and many others did well in a 175 mile ride that took almost 10 hrs without ever going half that long. And only a few times even past a few hours. |
| 2016-06-13 3:45 PM in reply to: IronOx |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by Asalzwed I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. WOW! Awesome work out there :D x2! Thanks guys, appreciate it! |
| 2016-06-13 3:56 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
| 436 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by Asalzwed I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. WOW! Awesome work out there :D x2! Thanks guys, appreciate it! Is that a Boston qualifying time?? Sounds like it's gotta be close. |
| 2016-06-13 3:59 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Asalzwed I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. What monsters race on the women side to make a 3:08 8th place?! Grats on a great run. |
| 2016-06-13 4:11 PM in reply to: TXTriRook |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by TXTriRook Originally posted by Asalzwed Is that a Boston qualifying time?? Sounds like it's gotta be close. Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by Asalzwed I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. WOW! Awesome work out there :D x2! Thanks guys, appreciate it! Yeah, the qualifying time for F18-34 is 3:35:00 |
| 2016-06-13 4:18 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by marysia83 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I am speechless Originally posted by amd723 I've been searching for the words to express how I feel - and I just can't I'm so overwhelmed. Originally posted by fortissimo Originally posted by rrrunner Hands, prayers for you and your community Yes. I second this! thanks, it is truly horrible. There are no words.... I know it's really easy to dwell on what happened, especially from the LGBT perspective, as a set-back. But the response I have seen is the exact opposite. One person's terrible actions don't really reflect how far we have come. But we still have a long way to go. The important and really beautiful thing is that we are not helpless. We simply need to go out of our way to love one another, unconditionally. I got a call from a VM from a friend whose grandson is gay. She said that she was just speaking to him and his mom (who has been crying for hours out of fear for her son--in general because he is gay and could be a target, not because he was involved). She felt the need to call and tell us how sorry she was. I totally appreciate the sentiment, but this is not about LGBTQ in my opinion. This is about one person's hate and lack of understanding. Chris' instagram said it well. "Reach out with interest...find common ground" Hurting another does nothing to further your life, health or wealth. We all have prejudices and judgments. But when you recognize them, turn them around to understanding and love. I so wanted to put that in there, but couldn't find the right words. I may not agree with someone's choices or actions in life (just to be clear, this is every and any choice or action or whatever), but the important part is to understand the person. That is how we become better people as an entire society. Kirsten, I agree, however I would actually say it's not JUST about LGBTQ. It's about all of us and notably American Muslims who may feel quite isolated right now. Chris, I too really like that part you mentioned about acknowledging our prejudices. And on the other side of that, if you meet someone who hasn't yet arrived at this, take the opportunity to talk through the hate and fear with them. Way easier said than done, I know. If you have a moment, read this: http://kuow.org/post/orlando-shooter-and-my-student
Yes, better said. Thanks. |
| 2016-06-13 4:19 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
| 1731 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by TXTriRook Originally posted by Asalzwed Is that a Boston qualifying time?? Sounds like it's gotta be close. Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by juniperjen Originally posted by Asalzwed I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. WOW! Awesome work out there :D x2! Thanks guys, appreciate it! Yeah, the qualifying time for F18-34 is 3:35:00 Yaaaay!!! That's awesome!!!! |
| 2016-06-13 4:22 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by IronOx My race...Well, the swim was in the weedy end of the lake, but they shortened it to 1.5km rather than 1.9km (0.9 of a mile rather than 1.2) to keep us out of the really bad stuff. But I would have swum the entire thing if they would have fixed the swim exit which was ridiculous. It was a floating dock/ramp, but you couldn't climb out yourself, you had to have a vollie give you a hand up. Problem was, the vollies could only get so close, or they would slip/fall/be pulled in. And there weren't enough of them. There was nothing to grab onto to pull yourself up enough to reach them either, so it was a scramble-grab. We were 5 deep in the water trying to get out. The bike was not great either; course was okay, better than in the past, but it was open in parts that should have been closed. I watched a car driving straddling the line between two lanes trying to turn right between cyclists. There was one out and back that was a long hill, up on the out, down on the back. People were going up one side and screaming along at 50km/hr down the other with cars driving up the middle of the road. Asinine. Despite it all, I was happy with my race. I felt undertrained, and had a lot of arguments with the voice in my head that told me I couldn't do it, but made it through. I am feeling not too badly today, tired and a bit sore. I do have the most fantastical blister on my left arch for some reason Great work Kirsten. A big win I might mention is that you didn't at all mention the run not being great. Which I can only think means it was great heh heh. It was just the least bad of everything! It was actually slower than last year, which I found interesting (although the course was the same, it was the reverse direction around the lake). I know that at some point (or maybe several) I thought to myself "I am not prepared to hurt today (on the run)". I was definitely not pushing as hard as I am capable of. I didn't really have race mode on this year. The win to me was that I didn't give in to the voice and walk as I did last year, even on the two big hills (at 6 and 11 miles). |
| 2016-06-13 4:37 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Asalzwed I had an excellent marathon on Sunday! I am really excited to write about it and will as soon as I can. The short of it, I ran a 3:08-something and an 8th place finish on the women's side. It was a PR by a couple minutes as well. Congrats on a great marathon run. That is a race I really want to do someday. |
| 2016-06-13 4:49 PM in reply to: amd723 |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Very big congrats to Kirsten, Mary G, Robin and Salty (and the other racers who either I missed cuz I'm a dork or who didn't check in yet)!! Excellent efforts and results! |
| 2016-06-13 4:53 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by IronOx My race...Well, the swim was in the weedy end of the lake, but they shortened it to 1.5km rather than 1.9km (0.9 of a mile rather than 1.2) to keep us out of the really bad stuff. But I would have swum the entire thing if they would have fixed the swim exit which was ridiculous. It was a floating dock/ramp, but you couldn't climb out yourself, you had to have a vollie give you a hand up. Problem was, the vollies could only get so close, or they would slip/fall/be pulled in. And there weren't enough of them. There was nothing to grab onto to pull yourself up enough to reach them either, so it was a scramble-grab. We were 5 deep in the water trying to get out. The bike was not great either; course was okay, better than in the past, but it was open in parts that should have been closed. I watched a car driving straddling the line between two lanes trying to turn right between cyclists. There was one out and back that was a long hill, up on the out, down on the back. People were going up one side and screaming along at 50km/hr down the other with cars driving up the middle of the road. Asinine. Despite it all, I was happy with my race. I felt undertrained, and had a lot of arguments with the voice in my head that told me I couldn't do it, but made it through. I am feeling not too badly today, tired and a bit sore. I do have the most fantastical blister on my left arch for some reason Great job getting through another HIM Kirsten. Between the swim exit and the traffic issues on the bike I would have been pretty frustrated. Glad you made it safely. I wonder if with the rapid expansion of WTC races the quality and logistics are starting to slip a little. It seems more times than not folks are having issues with WTC races of one type or another. Last year at Boise, it didn't seem to have the same vibe and polish of some of the previous races I have done. |
| 2016-06-13 6:33 PM in reply to: Bryce Hiigel |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux Originally posted by Bryce Hiigel Possible cycling shoe issue. I have a pair of Sidi Tri 3.6 Shoes for around a year. Just recently my right ankle is starting to feel like it is locking up can't full range of motion when walking in regular shoes or barefoot. also side is hurting the top finally stopped took a week off of everything started to feel better. I rode tonight nothing hard but noticed ankle was back at it again. Also sometimes I feel like my right foot wants to fall off the pedal or outside of shoe. I have the cleat as far over as I can get. Also ride Speedplay pedals haven't had an issue with them that I noticed. Any Ideas? Saw this and sounds like it shares some similarity to what I've gone through at times. Still trying to figure out a response that's coherent and actually useful. |
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