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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by Asalzwed Alright, my crazy mountain race report is up. Sorry if it's a bit scattered and grammatical error-laden. I haven't had much time but wanted to get it while it's fresh! Your RR got me wondering if I should try to do some trail races. I looked it up on Runningintheusa.com and found a short one in April (not happening before my marathon), then longer ones in May, July and early August. Think I should do some of those to get some practice before PPA? I don't think you necessarily need to race on the trails but I believe you should run on them. Honestly, I also think hiking is extremely relevant too. Especially steep stuff. I LOVE trail running and hiking. You will use muscles you never use on the road, exert more effort and have a blast! And, when you get back on the road, I think you will find you are stronger. That's been my experience anyway!! |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by Asalzwed Alright, my crazy mountain race report is up. Sorry if it's a bit scattered and grammatical error-laden. I haven't had much time but wanted to get it while it's fresh! Your RR got me wondering if I should try to do some trail races. I looked it up on Runningintheusa.com and found a short one in April (not happening before my marathon), then longer ones in May, July and early August. Think I should do some of those to get some practice before PPA? I don't think you necessarily need to race on the trails but I believe you should run on them. Honestly, I also think hiking is extremely relevant too. Especially steep stuff. I LOVE trail running and hiking. You will use muscles you never use on the road, exert more effort and have a blast! And, when you get back on the road, I think you will find you are stronger. That's been my experience anyway!! I just signed up for a series of cross country races. Not quite trail running, but it'll still be a nice change from stomping the same old route around the golf course. There are 2 a month May-August on Wednesday evenings in various places around the Denver area. The first one should be pretty interesting. It's got some single-track, a water crossing, and some serious hills (well, for me anyway). The rest are a lot less challenging, being a lot flatter although still on dirt/gravel. Most are based on local high school cross country race routes, with the final one at CU Boulder's race venue. I figure it'll be a fun way to get in some mid-week miles that fit in with my training distances. Plus there will be food trucks and a beer garden after each one. I think I'm going to skip the tutu though. |
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Science Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Artemis Ok, now that I'm sort of caught up, I have an actual training question. I'm trying to find a training plan for my half marathon (don't pay attention to my logs..I've been running but not logging). Debating between:
1. 18 week Disneyland Jeff Galloway plan: only has 2 week runs (30 min each) and one weekend run. Not sure that's enough. 2. 12 week Hal Higdon plan: lots of longer runs during the week, but generally a good plan 3. 16 week half marathon plan: 2 runs during week, 2 runs on weekend. Might be easier for me than 3 runs during the week and I'd get more experience running on tired legs. Thoughts? You've done the half marathons before and you know what your schedule is like. For me, the second and third plans sound better. For the Higdon plan what were you thinking for the run or cross Wednesdays? I have done a half marathon before, but it's been awhile. My schedule is kind of crazy right now, so I feel like the third plan is the most reasonable given my week-day schedule. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I am really looking forward to trail running. I'm going to explore several areas and many different trails doing it. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by laffinrock I haven't been able to find a Master's group in my area that I can get into. The only one I've found requires that you be able to swim a certain speed/distance to qualify to participate. I'm not fast enough, so I can't join. I'll post something in the CO forum here to see if anybody else knows of another one. Sorry, but that is dumb. To me, Masters is for all abilities. They should call themselves an elite club or something, not Masters. Not dumb. I think that a speed requirement is actually against USMS policy. Masters refers to age, not ability/speed. Their website says this for prerequisites: "You should feel comfortable in a 25-yard pool and be able to swim 300 yards freestyle within six minutes, rest one minute and then repeat." Are you saying that having this type of requirement is against the rules? The team claims to be the largest in the Rocky Mountain region and their coach was named COMSA coach of the year a few years back. I'd think that if their speed requirement was against the rules, they'd have been called out about it. I did find another team on one of the links posted above that I'm familiar with. I thought they weren't around anymore so I'm excited to see that they are. They even practice in the evenings, which is when I prefer to work out, and they swim not too far from my house. I'm definitely going to check them out. At the very least, it's against the philosophy. I mean, the USMS FAQ says: I'm not fast enough (or in shape enough) to be a Masters swimmer... Be curious about their suggestion as to how one should accomplish this if they can't get in to swim. Some might offer help outside of the normal practices or have some suggestions. If they don't then something seems wrong with the program. |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by Asalzwed Alright, my crazy mountain race report is up. Sorry if it's a bit scattered and grammatical error-laden. I haven't had much time but wanted to get it while it's fresh! Your RR got me wondering if I should try to do some trail races. I looked it up on Runningintheusa.com and found a short one in April (not happening before my marathon), then longer ones in May, July and early August. Think I should do some of those to get some practice before PPA? I don't think you necessarily need to race on the trails but I believe you should run on them. Honestly, I also think hiking is extremely relevant too. Especially steep stuff. I LOVE trail running and hiking. You will use muscles you never use on the road, exert more effort and have a blast! And, when you get back on the road, I think you will find you are stronger. That's been my experience anyway!! I just signed up for a series of cross country races. Not quite trail running, but it'll still be a nice change from stomping the same old route around the golf course. There are 2 a month May-August on Wednesday evenings in various places around the Denver area. The first one should be pretty interesting. It's got some single-track, a water crossing, and some serious hills (well, for me anyway). The rest are a lot less challenging, being a lot flatter although still on dirt/gravel. Most are based on local high school cross country race routes, with the final one at CU Boulder's race venue. I figure it'll be a fun way to get in some mid-week miles that fit in with my training distances. Plus there will be food trucks and a beer garden after each one. I think I'm going to skip the tutu though. RAD! Yall know how I feel about cross country! Will you be running with a team or as an individual. XC is AMMMAAZZZINNNNG by itself but if you can, running with a team is even better. The rare opportunity for running to be a team sport where ever position matters. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Artemis Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Artemis Ok, now that I'm sort of caught up, I have an actual training question. I'm trying to find a training plan for my half marathon (don't pay attention to my logs..I've been running but not logging). Debating between:
1. 18 week Disneyland Jeff Galloway plan: only has 2 week runs (30 min each) and one weekend run. Not sure that's enough. 2. 12 week Hal Higdon plan: lots of longer runs during the week, but generally a good plan 3. 16 week half marathon plan: 2 runs during week, 2 runs on weekend. Might be easier for me than 3 runs during the week and I'd get more experience running on tired legs. Thoughts? You've done the half marathons before and you know what your schedule is like. For me, the second and third plans sound better. For the Higdon plan what were you thinking for the run or cross Wednesdays? I have done a half marathon before, but it's been awhile. My schedule is kind of crazy right now, so I feel like the third plan is the most reasonable given my week-day schedule. Then I think that you have a winner! A training plan is no good if it's structured in a way that is difficult for you to follow. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by Asalzwed Alright, my crazy mountain race report is up. Sorry if it's a bit scattered and grammatical error-laden. I haven't had much time but wanted to get it while it's fresh! Your RR got me wondering if I should try to do some trail races. I looked it up on Runningintheusa.com and found a short one in April (not happening before my marathon), then longer ones in May, July and early August. Think I should do some of those to get some practice before PPA? I don't think you necessarily need to race on the trails but I believe you should run on them. Honestly, I also think hiking is extremely relevant too. Especially steep stuff. I LOVE trail running and hiking. You will use muscles you never use on the road, exert more effort and have a blast! And, when you get back on the road, I think you will find you are stronger. That's been my experience anyway!! I just signed up for a series of cross country races. Not quite trail running, but it'll still be a nice change from stomping the same old route around the golf course. There are 2 a month May-August on Wednesday evenings in various places around the Denver area. The first one should be pretty interesting. It's got some single-track, a water crossing, and some serious hills (well, for me anyway). The rest are a lot less challenging, being a lot flatter although still on dirt/gravel. Most are based on local high school cross country race routes, with the final one at CU Boulder's race venue. I figure it'll be a fun way to get in some mid-week miles that fit in with my training distances. Plus there will be food trucks and a beer garden after each one. I think I'm going to skip the tutu though. RAD! Yall know how I feel about cross country! Will you be running with a team or as an individual. XC is AMMMAAZZZINNNNG by itself but if you can, running with a team is even better. The rare opportunity for running to be a team sport where ever position matters. Just individually. I don't know if there will be any teams competing. Since I'm focused on tris right now, I'm not sure I'm up for joining a team, but maybe in the future.... |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by laffinrock I haven't been able to find a Master's group in my area that I can get into. The only one I've found requires that you be able to swim a certain speed/distance to qualify to participate. I'm not fast enough, so I can't join. I'll post something in the CO forum here to see if anybody else knows of another one. Sorry, but that is dumb. To me, Masters is for all abilities. They should call themselves an elite club or something, not Masters. Not dumb. I think that a speed requirement is actually against USMS policy. Masters refers to age, not ability/speed. Their website says this for prerequisites: "You should feel comfortable in a 25-yard pool and be able to swim 300 yards freestyle within six minutes, rest one minute and then repeat." Are you saying that having this type of requirement is against the rules? The team claims to be the largest in the Rocky Mountain region and their coach was named COMSA coach of the year a few years back. I'd think that if their speed requirement was against the rules, they'd have been called out about it. I did find another team on one of the links posted above that I'm familiar with. I thought they weren't around anymore so I'm excited to see that they are. They even practice in the evenings, which is when I prefer to work out, and they swim not too far from my house. I'm definitely going to check them out. At the very least, it's against the philosophy. I mean, the USMS FAQ says: I'm not fast enough (or in shape enough) to be a Masters swimmer... Be curious about their suggestion as to how one should accomplish this if they can't get in to swim. Some might offer help outside of the normal practices or have some suggestions. If they don't then something seems wrong with the program. I was talking with DH about this. He suggested that maybe they have that cutoff to keep the program a manageable size. That makes sense to me. |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Artemis Ok, now that I'm sort of caught up, I have an actual training question. I'm trying to find a training plan for my half marathon (don't pay attention to my logs..I've been running but not logging). Debating between:
1. 18 week Disneyland Jeff Galloway plan: only has 2 week runs (30 min each) and one weekend run. Not sure that's enough. 2. 12 week Hal Higdon plan: lots of longer runs during the week, but generally a good plan 3. 16 week half marathon plan: 2 runs during week, 2 runs on weekend. Might be easier for me than 3 runs during the week and I'd get more experience running on tired legs. Thoughts? I would do whatever gets you out the door the most frequently |
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![]() | ![]() So my win put me in first place in the trail running series http://www.webscorer.com/seriesresult?seriesid=39748 But the challenging thing is, the woman who is my "competition" runs longer stuff and I do shorter stuff, so we may never actually go head to head. So, it's just who shows up to race us. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Happy tax day!! Once again I am last minute and heading to the post office. Seems I am always running a little behind. Anyone else still have their Christmas tree up?? My training plan has this as a bike focus week which is good. It is my weakness now and I really need to ramp it up if I am going to have a good HIM in June. I also need to get outside and off the trainer to gauge where I'm really at. Saturday is one of two of THE big local 5k's of the year around here. It is the fastest, flat course with a large fast field. The one mile mark goes right in front of my house so usually have some neighborhood support. I would have liked to have better prepared for this but I guess you can't do it all. I've chosen to try to stick with a greater focus on my training for the HIM. Oh well, maybe lightning will struck and I'll just have one of those days. This is such a great race. For $20, it's chip timed, tech shirt, commemorative pint glass, free pizza and the weather should be perfect. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed So my win put me in first place in the trail running series http://www.webscorer.com/seriesresult?seriesid=39748 But the challenging thing is, the woman who is my "competition" runs longer stuff and I do shorter stuff, so we may never actually go head to head. So, it's just who shows up to race us. Looks like you might have to run a half to show her who's boss. I'd put my money on you!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed So my win put me in first place in the trail running series http://www.webscorer.com/seriesresult?seriesid=39748 But the challenging thing is, the woman who is my "competition" runs longer stuff and I do shorter stuff, so we may never actually go head to head. So, it's just who shows up to race us. That's. So. Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by popsracer Happy tax day!! Once again I am last minute and heading to the post office. Seems I am always running a little behind. Anyone else still have their Christmas tree up?? My training plan has this as a bike focus week which is good. It is my weakness now and I really need to ramp it up if I am going to have a good HIM in June. I also need to get outside and off the trainer to gauge where I'm really at. Saturday is one of two of THE big local 5k's of the year around here. It is the fastest, flat course with a large fast field. The one mile mark goes right in front of my house so usually have some neighborhood support. I would have liked to have better prepared for this but I guess you can't do it all. I've chosen to try to stick with a greater focus on my training for the HIM. Oh well, maybe lightning will struck and I'll just have one of those days. This is such a great race. For $20, it's chip timed, tech shirt, commemorative pint glass, free pizza and the weather should be perfect. Sounds like a fun 5k! Just show up and see what you can do. At the very least you get some great swag. |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by Asalzwed So my win put me in first place in the trail running series http://www.webscorer.com/seriesresult?seriesid=39748 But the challenging thing is, the woman who is my "competition" runs longer stuff and I do shorter stuff, so we may never actually go head to head. So, it's just who shows up to race us. That's. So. Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah! I won't be surprised if I don't win it though. Just because the shorter races tend to have more competition than the longer races. But then again, you never know who will show up.
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by Asalzwed So my win put me in first place in the trail running series http://www.webscorer.com/seriesresult?seriesid=39748 But the challenging thing is, the woman who is my "competition" runs longer stuff and I do shorter stuff, so we may never actually go head to head. So, it's just who shows up to race us. Looks like you might have to run a half to show her who's boss. I'd put my money on you!! Yeah but it would be a total gamble since I don't know what distance she is signed up for and vis versa |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by Asalzwed So my win put me in first place in the trail running series http://www.webscorer.com/seriesresult?seriesid=39748 But the challenging thing is, the woman who is my "competition" runs longer stuff and I do shorter stuff, so we may never actually go head to head. So, it's just who shows up to race us. That's. So. Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah! I won't be surprised if I don't win it though. Just because the shorter races tend to have more competition than the longer races. But then again, you never know who will show up.
Meh. I agree with Steve. My money's on you! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by laffinrock Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by laffinrock I haven't been able to find a Master's group in my area that I can get into. The only one I've found requires that you be able to swim a certain speed/distance to qualify to participate. I'm not fast enough, so I can't join. I'll post something in the CO forum here to see if anybody else knows of another one. Sorry, but that is dumb. To me, Masters is for all abilities. They should call themselves an elite club or something, not Masters. Not dumb. I think that a speed requirement is actually against USMS policy. Masters refers to age, not ability/speed. Their website says this for prerequisites: "You should feel comfortable in a 25-yard pool and be able to swim 300 yards freestyle within six minutes, rest one minute and then repeat." Are you saying that having this type of requirement is against the rules? The team claims to be the largest in the Rocky Mountain region and their coach was named COMSA coach of the year a few years back. I'd think that if their speed requirement was against the rules, they'd have been called out about it. I did find another team on one of the links posted above that I'm familiar with. I thought they weren't around anymore so I'm excited to see that they are. They even practice in the evenings, which is when I prefer to work out, and they swim not too far from my house. I'm definitely going to check them out. At the very least, it's against the philosophy. I mean, the USMS FAQ says: I'm not fast enough (or in shape enough) to be a Masters swimmer... Be curious about their suggestion as to how one should accomplish this if they can't get in to swim. Some might offer help outside of the normal practices or have some suggestions. If they don't then something seems wrong with the program. I was talking with DH about this. He suggested that maybe they have that cutoff to keep the program a manageable size. That makes sense to me. Something interesting I saw on COMSA...a Mastering Masters 6-week course: An Introductory Course Developed by Colorado Masters Swimming Association (COMSA) to Provide Confidence, Understanding and Skills for Swimmers to become Masters Swimmers. Though it doesn't seem to be against any "rule" to set prerequisites, as the site says "Structure and organization of USMS programs vary", maybe this is their answer to any complaints for some classes having them.
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Artemis Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Artemis Ok, now that I'm sort of caught up, I have an actual training question. I'm trying to find a training plan for my half marathon (don't pay attention to my logs..I've been running but not logging). Debating between:
1. 18 week Disneyland Jeff Galloway plan: only has 2 week runs (30 min each) and one weekend run. Not sure that's enough. 2. 12 week Hal Higdon plan: lots of longer runs during the week, but generally a good plan 3. 16 week half marathon plan: 2 runs during week, 2 runs on weekend. Might be easier for me than 3 runs during the week and I'd get more experience running on tired legs. Thoughts? You've done the half marathons before and you know what your schedule is like. For me, the second and third plans sound better. For the Higdon plan what were you thinking for the run or cross Wednesdays? I have done a half marathon before, but it's been awhile. My schedule is kind of crazy right now, so I feel like the third plan is the most reasonable given my week-day schedule. Then this is the one you go with...for now. Nothing forcing you to keep the exact plan if your crazy schedule gets less so |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by 4agoodlife Something interesting I saw on COMSA...a Mastering Masters 6-week course: An Introductory Course Developed by Colorado Masters Swimming Association (COMSA) to Provide Confidence, Understanding and Skills for Swimmers to become Masters Swimmers. Though it doesn't seem to be against any "rule" to set prerequisites, as the site says "Structure and organization of USMS programs vary", maybe this is their answer to any complaints for some classes having them. I'll bet you're right. It sounds like a good program.
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by popsracer Happy tax day!! Once again I am last minute and heading to the post office. Seems I am always running a little behind. Anyone else still have their Christmas tree up?? My training plan has this as a bike focus week which is good. It is my weakness now and I really need to ramp it up if I am going to have a good HIM in June. I also need to get outside and off the trainer to gauge where I'm really at. Saturday is one of two of THE big local 5k's of the year around here. It is the fastest, flat course with a large fast field. The one mile mark goes right in front of my house so usually have some neighborhood support. I would have liked to have better prepared for this but I guess you can't do it all. I've chosen to try to stick with a greater focus on my training for the HIM. Oh well, maybe lightning will struck and I'll just have one of those days. This is such a great race. For $20, it's chip timed, tech shirt, commemorative pint glass, free pizza and the weather should be perfect. Especially when you lie around a Vegas pool for a week You might surprise yourself with some really grateful-for-the-vacation legs. And Wow, what a great price for all of that! |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by Asalzwed So my win put me in first place in the trail running series http://www.webscorer.com/seriesresult?seriesid=39748 But the challenging thing is, the woman who is my "competition" runs longer stuff and I do shorter stuff, so we may never actually go head to head. So, it's just who shows up to race us. That's. So. Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah! I won't be surprised if I don't win it though. Just because the shorter races tend to have more competition than the longer races. But then again, you never know who will show up.
Meh. I agree with Steve. My money's on you! +1 It's a foregone conclusion in my mind! I'm planning on buying you a celebratory beer when you're out here in August. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed So my win put me in first place in the trail running series http://www.webscorer.com/seriesresult?seriesid=39748 But the challenging thing is, the woman who is my "competition" runs longer stuff and I do shorter stuff, so we may never actually go head to head. So, it's just who shows up to race us. OORRRR...knowing her MO, you sign up for a longer one and take her down Edited by 4agoodlife 2015-04-15 12:11 PM |
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