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 2015-05-20 4:38 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Pro  6191    |  Subject: RE: SBR "U"Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Oh, and I think I'm doomed for my marathon. A Grand Canyon Rim to Rim hike exactly one week prior to the marathon is now happening. Not my best idea, but how often does an opportunity for an all expenses/logistics covered trip like that happen? Not often enough for me to say no. Are you in hiking shape? Or will you be by then? I don't think it will kill your marathon if so. I wouldn't say it's ideal but it's not too crazy. I'm fine for hiking as long as I'm not carrying 35 lbs plus weapon plus water I'm booking a massage... probably Tuesday, because Monday is a holiday. If my marathon training were ideal at this point, I'd skip the hike. But it's not, and I think I'll be ok. Just do it in a day Wait 35 lb plus water? What are you carrying in there!?! Whatever I can find! That's the Army standard. Used to be whatever gear I could fit.. then it just because some fluffy stuff and a strategically placed/secured kettlebell This one, I'm carrying water, food, and a camera. We are doing it in a day... 5am start, estimated finish at 7:30pm. Oh, so you have to do it with the weight then? Not this time, thankfully |
Even then, I'd be fine at least until the 12 mile mark.
| 2015-05-20 4:42 PM in reply to: 0 |
 Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Oh, and I think I'm doomed for my marathon. A Grand Canyon Rim to Rim hike exactly one week prior to the marathon is now happening. Not my best idea, but how often does an opportunity for an all expenses/logistics covered trip like that happen? Not often enough for me to say no. Are you in hiking shape? Or will you be by then? I don't think it will kill your marathon if so. I wouldn't say it's ideal but it's not too crazy. I'm fine for hiking as long as I'm not carrying 35 lbs plus weapon plus water I'm booking a massage... probably Tuesday, because Monday is a holiday. If my marathon training were ideal at this point, I'd skip the hike. But it's not, and I think I'll be ok. Just do it in a day Wait 35 lb plus water? What are you carrying in there!?! Whatever I can find! That's the Army standard. Used to be whatever gear I could fit.. then it just because some fluffy stuff and a strategically placed/secured kettlebell This one, I'm carrying water, food, and a camera. We are doing it in a day... 5am start, estimated finish at 7:30pm. Oh, so you have to do it with the weight then? Not this time, thankfully Ohhh, got it ok. Yeah, the weight bearing part is the most difficult. Just covering that much ground is really not TOO taxing. And you have the benefit of the elevation gain being split into two. I'll bet you are pretty well recovered by marathon time. Edited by Asalzwed 2015-05-20 4:42 PM |
| 2015-05-20 5:02 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Elite 7783  PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by axteraa Pretty happy with my swim this morning. Main set was 20 x 100 with ~5s rest. 5 ez, 5 moderate, 8 T-pace and 2 fast. Did the first 5 on 1:30 (1:22-1:23), next 5 on 1:25 (1:19s) then the last 10 on 1:20 (1:15-1:16 and the last 2 1:12s). Ready to have a good swim at Alcatraz I think. Not sure when I would have last done 10 x 100 on 1:20 like that. Nice set! Have to ask, meters? Pretty sure Canadian's don't know what a yard is...as most time's it's covered in snow. Yup, meters. Definitely too cold to swim in the yard here. |
| 2015-05-20 5:05 PM in reply to: spudone |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by axteraa Pretty happy with my swim this morning. Main set was 20 x 100 with ~5s rest. 5 ez, 5 moderate, 8 T-pace and 2 fast. Did the first 5 on 1:30 (1:22-1:23), next 5 on 1:25 (1:19s) then the last 10 on 1:20 (1:15-1:16 and the last 2 1:12s). Ready to have a good swim at Alcatraz I think. Not sure when I would have last done 10 x 100 on 1:20 like that. Nice set! Have to ask, meters? Pretty sure Canadian's don't know what a yard is...as most time's it's covered in snow. Ahha so he just skated on top of the frozen pool. That makes more sense! Sadly I don't know how to skate... |
| 2015-05-20 5:09 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by TankBoy Originally posted by Asalzwed Wow, quickly read through the buying speed thread on TT. So, why the hell do you all have expensive bikes??? My beautiful bride bought me mine as a surprise and told me it was cheaper (and possibly a little safer) than a sports car. One of these days soon I am going to go out and try to do a little aerolab testing on some equipment changes. That thread made me think it would be interesting to take my old TT bike and test it against my new one. I am quicker on the IA than on my old, first-gen P2, but that is likely attributed to all manner of things.
I don't know if you saw the post Andy F did on ST about our trip to the Velodrome. He broke down the time savings. As far as the P2, Cervelo's top engineer told me I could get my P2 as fast as any of the superbikes with a few strategic changes, the aerobar being the biggest. I am actually going to rebuild and paint my P2 one day. Just waiting for SRAM wireless. |
| 2015-05-20 5:30 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 8249 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: SBR "U" No expensive bike here! (Well, relatively to others.) I trained raced for my first three years of tri on an $800 road bike. (Actually, I did my first two tris on a rental MTB, and trained on a gym stationary.) My P2 is secondhand, 2010 ( think). I think it's faster, but maybe it's all in my head and it's just better training. But I certainly put in a lot of training on the roadie with little result. Definitely more fun to ride. Never thought I'd be saying "bike" and "fun" in the same sentence, but this sport warps one's brain.... |
| 2015-05-20 7:33 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by marcag I don't know if you saw the post Andy F did on ST about our trip to the Velodrome. He broke down the time savings. As far as the P2, Cervelo's top engineer told me I could get my P2 as fast as any of the superbikes with a few strategic changes, the aerobar being the biggest. I am actually going to rebuild and paint my P2 one day. Just waiting for SRAM wireless. And I would believe that build could rival super bikes as well. When I look at my P2, the cockpit and derailleur cables are the biggest issues I see. Not that I have an expert aerodynamic eye or anything. What type of aerobars are you considering? The new Tri Rig Alpha (while a bit pricey) looks pretty sweet. Edited by Jason N 2015-05-20 7:33 PM |
| 2015-05-20 10:19 PM in reply to: #5079829 |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Curious what you choose as well. I love my P2 ($1,600 used a couple years ago - it's a 2009). Definitely faster than my Venge (at least with the 808/disc and an aero helmet - maaaaaybe not apples to apples!). Only thing is that my current bars are as low as they'll go, and I'd like to drop another 1-2 cm. (and my stubby legs are getting no longer). Several new cockpits seem to have much more adjustability... Still noodling a new bike, but I think the next one will more likely be a Cx bike than another TT bike as this one works pretty dang well for me. Matt |
| 2015-05-21 5:13 AM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by marcag I don't know if you saw the post Andy F did on ST about our trip to the Velodrome. He broke down the time savings. As far as the P2, Cervelo's top engineer told me I could get my P2 as fast as any of the superbikes with a few strategic changes, the aerobar being the biggest. I am actually going to rebuild and paint my P2 one day. Just waiting for SRAM wireless. And I would believe that build could rival super bikes as well. When I look at my P2, the cockpit and derailleur cables are the biggest issues I see. Not that I have an expert aerodynamic eye or anything. What type of aerobars are you considering? The new Tri Rig Alpha (while a bit pricey) looks pretty sweet. Recommended by Damon USE R1 Pro Missile Evo Recommended by Andy Zipp Vuka Stealth, TriRig OmegaX PRO EVO Missile bars It's not just about the cables. There are reasons you see TTers with the basebar at top tube height, the very aerodynamic risers to bring their pad to the right height and no tubular shapes. Look at the junction between the extensions and the basebar. For example, on the profile design : caca apparently. Now, we are splitting hairs in four. As I said in TT, get from a .36 to a .25 with the easy stuff and then get to a .21 with the expensive stuff. We severly underestimate the aero cost of some items and we severaly overestimate the savings of others. The markething departments are really good at skewing out senses. So are some "experts". Best advice : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vQaVIoEjOM Did you see the thread Andy did with my results ? Edited by marcag 2015-05-21 5:22 AM |
| 2015-05-21 6:06 AM in reply to: marcag |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by Jason N Recommended by Damon USE R1 Pro Missile Evo Recommended by Andy Zipp Vuka Stealth, TriRig OmegaX PRO EVO Missile bars It's not just about the cables. There are reasons you see TTers with the basebar at top tube height, the very aerodynamic risers to bring their pad to the right height and no tubular shapes. Look at the junction between the extensions and the basebar. For example, on the profile design : caca apparently. Now, we are splitting hairs in four. As I said in TT, get from a .36 to a .25 with the easy stuff and then get to a .21 with the expensive stuff. We severly underestimate the aero cost of some items and we severaly overestimate the savings of others. The markething departments are really good at skewing out senses. So are some "experts". Best advice : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vQaVIoEjOMDid you see the thread Andy did with my results ? Originally posted by marcag I don't know if you saw the post Andy F did on ST about our trip to the Velodrome. He broke down the time savings. As far as the P2, Cervelo's top engineer told me I could get my P2 as fast as any of the superbikes with a few strategic changes, the aerobar being the biggest. I am actually going to rebuild and paint my P2 one day. Just waiting for SRAM wireless. And I would believe that build could rival super bikes as well. When I look at my P2, the cockpit and derailleur cables are the biggest issues I see. Not that I have an expert aerodynamic eye or anything. What type of aerobars are you considering? The new Tri Rig Alpha (while a bit pricey) looks pretty sweet. Not liking that caca comment! (although not surprising). I read that thread on ST, always interesting stuff. |
| 2015-05-21 6:33 AM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by axteraa Not liking that caca comment! (although not surprising). I own the caca as well and it was pointed out to me. But I think it's pretty marginal Edited by marcag 2015-05-21 6:55 AM |
| 2015-05-21 7:28 AM in reply to: marcag |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by Jason N Recommended by Damon USE R1 Pro Missile Evo Recommended by Andy Zipp Vuka Stealth, TriRig OmegaX PRO EVO Missile bars It's not just about the cables. There are reasons you see TTers with the basebar at top tube height, the very aerodynamic risers to bring their pad to the right height and no tubular shapes. Look at the junction between the extensions and the basebar. For example, on the profile design : caca apparently. Now, we are splitting hairs in four. As I said in TT, get from a .36 to a .25 with the easy stuff and then get to a .21 with the expensive stuff. We severly underestimate the aero cost of some items and we severaly overestimate the savings of others. The markething departments are really good at skewing out senses. So are some "experts". Best advice : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vQaVIoEjOMDid you see the thread Andy did with my results ? Originally posted by marcag I don't know if you saw the post Andy F did on ST about our trip to the Velodrome. He broke down the time savings. As far as the P2, Cervelo's top engineer told me I could get my P2 as fast as any of the superbikes with a few strategic changes, the aerobar being the biggest. I am actually going to rebuild and paint my P2 one day. Just waiting for SRAM wireless. And I would believe that build could rival super bikes as well. When I look at my P2, the cockpit and derailleur cables are the biggest issues I see. Not that I have an expert aerodynamic eye or anything. What type of aerobars are you considering? The new Tri Rig Alpha (while a bit pricey) looks pretty sweet. Think the bar selection for most is getting a lot better than a couple years ago when I was looking. I had trouble because I needed the pads all the way down on the base bar to make the fit. Think some of the ones listed may do that now too. I would have to get used to the pursuit position being higher up as the current base drops down significantly (PRO Missile Drop). Plus get used to the idea of the aero bars connecting underneath. right now they point directly into the base bar for a rather clean look in that regard. The wing area of the base bar is likely less areo than the newer ones, and is something I would have to get my head around. |
| 2015-05-21 8:04 AM in reply to: marcag |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by axteraa Not liking that caca comment! (although not surprising). I own the caca as well and it was pointed out to me. But I think it's pretty marginal What is this? |
| 2015-05-21 8:05 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by axteraa Not liking that caca comment! (although not surprising). I own the caca as well and it was pointed out to me. But I think it's pretty marginal What is this? Profile Design aerobars |
| 2015-05-21 8:17 AM in reply to: axteraa |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by axteraa Not liking that caca comment! (although not surprising). I own the caca as well and it was pointed out to me. But I think it's pretty marginal What is this? Profile Design aerobars Is that shorthand? Was curious about it, but having trouble finding it. |
| 2015-05-21 8:18 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by axteraa Not liking that caca comment! (although not surprising). I own the caca as well and it was pointed out to me. But I think it's pretty marginal What is this? Profile Design aerobars Is that shorthand? Was curious about it, but having trouble finding it. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caca Maybe it's a french thing? |
| 2015-05-21 8:54 AM in reply to: axteraa |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by axteraa Not liking that caca comment! (although not surprising). I own the caca as well and it was pointed out to me. But I think it's pretty marginal What is this? Profile Design aerobars Is that shorthand? Was curious about it, but having trouble finding it. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caca Maybe it's a french thing? I'll just blame Canada in general. |
| 2015-05-21 10:28 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
| Master 5557 , California | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by axteraa Not liking that caca comment! (although not surprising). I own the caca as well and it was pointed out to me. But I think it's pretty marginal What is this? Profile Design aerobars Is that shorthand? Was curious about it, but having trouble finding it. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/caca Maybe it's a french thing? I'll just blame Canada in general. Didn't his Canadian license get revoked when he admitted he couldn't skate (and thus, play hockey)? Hmm... |
| 2015-05-21 10:37 AM in reply to: spudone |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by spudone Didn't his Canadian license get revoked when he admitted he couldn't skate (and thus, play hockey)? Hmm... No, we have come to accept that english canada can't play hockey |
| 2015-05-21 12:07 PM in reply to: axteraa |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by axteraa Pretty happy with my swim this morning. Main set was 20 x 100 with ~5s rest. 5 ez, 5 moderate, 8 T-pace and 2 fast. Did the first 5 on 1:30 (1:22-1:23), next 5 on 1:25 (1:19s) then the last 10 on 1:20 (1:15-1:16 and the last 2 1:12s). Ready to have a good swim at Alcatraz I think. Not sure when I would have last done 10 x 100 on 1:20 like that. Nice set! Have to ask, meters? Pretty sure Canadian's don't know what a yard is...as most time's it's covered in snow. Ahha so he just skated on top of the frozen pool. That makes more sense! Sadly I don't know how to skate... UMMMMMMMM????? Between my avatar (and known prerace fuel) and well, college
I'm looking more Canadian than you! |
| 2015-05-21 12:42 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by axteraa Pretty happy with my swim this morning. Main set was 20 x 100 with ~5s rest. 5 ez, 5 moderate, 8 T-pace and 2 fast. Did the first 5 on 1:30 (1:22-1:23), next 5 on 1:25 (1:19s) then the last 10 on 1:20 (1:15-1:16 and the last 2 1:12s). Ready to have a good swim at Alcatraz I think. Not sure when I would have last done 10 x 100 on 1:20 like that. Nice set! Have to ask, meters? Pretty sure Canadian's don't know what a yard is...as most time's it's covered in snow. Ahha so he just skated on top of the frozen pool. That makes more sense! Sadly I don't know how to skate... UMMMMMMMM????? Between my avatar (and known prerace fuel) and well, college
I'm looking more Canadian than you! I really don't fit the mold. I swim, I don't skate, I rarely watch hockey, I hate snow and most of all, I don't drink Tim Hortons coffee! |
| 2015-05-21 12:43 PM in reply to: marcag |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by spudone Didn't his Canadian license get revoked when he admitted he couldn't skate (and thus, play hockey)? Hmm... No, we have come to accept that english canada can't play hockey
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| 2015-05-21 12:48 PM in reply to: axteraa |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by axteraa Pretty happy with my swim this morning. Main set was 20 x 100 with ~5s rest. 5 ez, 5 moderate, 8 T-pace and 2 fast. Did the first 5 on 1:30 (1:22-1:23), next 5 on 1:25 (1:19s) then the last 10 on 1:20 (1:15-1:16 and the last 2 1:12s). Ready to have a good swim at Alcatraz I think. Not sure when I would have last done 10 x 100 on 1:20 like that. Nice set! Have to ask, meters? Pretty sure Canadian's don't know what a yard is...as most time's it's covered in snow. Ahha so he just skated on top of the frozen pool. That makes more sense! Sadly I don't know how to skate... UMMMMMMMM????? Between my avatar (and known prerace fuel) and well, college
I'm looking more Canadian than you! I really don't fit the mold. I swim, I don't skate, I rarely watch hockey, I hate snow and most of all, I don't drink Tim Hortons coffee! What about Timbits though? |
| 2015-05-21 12:50 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by Asalzwed What about Timbits though? Timbits are ok if someone brings them to a meeting. |
| 2015-05-21 3:08 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Pro 6191 | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by Asalzwed What about Timbits though? Timbits are ok if someone brings them to a meeting. Had to google that one. Munchkins. |
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