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Ok, all caught up (again)

Chris, I'm no help on the bike. Longest i've done is a metric century and we all remember how that went

Speaking of long distance nutrition... I am leading (kinda) an aid station at mile 9 of a 52 mile ultra on saturday. The ultra will also hit this aid station 9 miles from the end, as will the marathon that begins at the turnaround point. It will be the halfway point for the 18 milers. That being said. The RD gave me $50 to get "fresh" food. She already gave me chips, drinks, pb & J. So I'm wondering what I should get. I thought about maybe some cucumbers with salt. Maybe some melon? It's supposed to be cool and rainy so I also wondered about warm chicken broth but I'm not sure about keeping it warm.  Thoughts?

Winter plan... I'm really undecided on this. I am loving the trail running but miss riding my bike too!

Monument Valley... Utah is a beautiful but moody mistress. In March you could get cold winter, hot summer or absolutely beautiful. That being said, I say do it! I love racing out there. I'm racing in Moab in a couple weeks!!! So excited!!!

Sports... my Rockies were never anywhere near post season play. My Avs are not off to a great start. And the Broncos, well the defense will only get us so far...

That is really great of you to volunteer.  These events don't happen without people helping.  Thanks

I think a good thermos would be fine.  It doesn't have to be hot.  If it is cool out any warmth gets a little magnified.  I'm not much help on healthy food. I used gel until the last miles of the ultras I've done and then I lived on potato chips, M&M's and Coke.



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Originally posted by rrrunner

Ok, all caught up (again)

Chris, I'm no help on the bike. Longest i've done is a metric century and we all remember how that went

Speaking of long distance nutrition... I am leading (kinda) an aid station at mile 9 of a 52 mile ultra on saturday. The ultra will also hit this aid station 9 miles from the end, as will the marathon that begins at the turnaround point. It will be the halfway point for the 18 milers. That being said. The RD gave me $50 to get "fresh" food. She already gave me chips, drinks, pb & J. So I'm wondering what I should get. I thought about maybe some cucumbers with salt. Maybe some melon? It's supposed to be cool and rainy so I also wondered about warm chicken broth but I'm not sure about keeping it warm.  Thoughts?

Winter plan... I'm really undecided on this. I am loving the trail running but miss riding my bike too!

Monument Valley... Utah is a beautiful but moody mistress. In March you could get cold winter, hot summer or absolutely beautiful. That being said, I say do it! I love racing out there. I'm racing in Moab in a couple weeks!!! So excited!!!

Sports... my Rockies were never anywhere near post season play. My Avs are not off to a great start. And the Broncos, well the defense will only get us so far...

At the IM races that I've been at they use a camp stove.  Also, remember warm, not HOT.

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Winter plan:  

Short term: attempt to get my butt running a bit more to do OK at the 10 Across the Bay coming up in a few weeks.  Motivation is still sporadic but mostly low.

Long term: ice hockey, stepping back a little from regemented tri training (ya know, kind of like I've been inadvertently doing the past month+).  After a little regrouping, hopefully restarting a more structured plan with my coach, possibly with my goal race being a 70.3 do-over at Timberman.  Naturally, doing some running races here and there over the winter/spring before prepping for tri season.  Re-lose the 7 lbs. (and hopefully a few more) that have crept back on since July.  

In general, get my life back in order.  The past year has been a crazy one.

Timberman!  :-D  Is a whole group planning this like with Syracuse?  (well, hopefully without the storms shortening it!)

2015-10-15 1:33 PM
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Originally posted by cdban66

Good day everyone, I hope things are going well as we approach the weekend.  I have a quick question for those that have ridden long distance before.  I have a century coming up in early November.  I feel that my legs and butt will be ready, the only concern I have is calorie intake.  I have been using Hammer Gels, which agree with me quite well.  So, my plan is probably one of those every 30-40 minutes or so and a bottle(ish) of water per hour.  Is there anything else I should be aware of? I figure by the time it is over, I'll be none too fond of gels, so any alternatives to try will be considered.  The ride is self supported, but I will pass my van every 10 miles or so.

Food suggestions: PB&J, fig newtons, a Payday bar for your final lap.  1 gel every 45 minutes will equal how many calories what, 125 calories per hour?  That sounds quite low.  You may want to up that some.

As we move towards fall here in the states, I am inclined to figure out my winter/prep schedule.  I am probably looking at a HM in February, but outside of that I'm kind of open.  So after the century, I'll switch to a run focus with a mileage climb happening over the three months or so and the addition of some speed work. It worked last winter and I may set an aggressive goal, just to push myself a bit more than in past years.  So that's the framework of a plan for the next 4 months or so and should get me through my day of winter.  What is everyone else looking at for their winter?

I'm on run focus from now until about May.  I have the Tuna Run coming up next week, then some recovery time before I start building back up again in mid December.  Oh, there will be a turkey trot in there too.  And a puppy.

125 calories per hour is low.  You should be able to absorb at least double that on the bike.

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Welcome back Adrienne.  Your trip did look amazing.  I forgot you were traveling and was looking at the Viking Invite XC results last weekend and didn't see you.  A buddy of mine is running with CNW now.  He ran 33 something.  Talked to him after the meet and he tried talking me into running some of these but DFL by a wide margin is just not appealing.  USTAF HM trail nationals are here this weekend.  I might give that a go.



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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by rrrunner

Ok, all caught up (again)

Chris, I'm no help on the bike. Longest i've done is a metric century and we all remember how that went

Speaking of long distance nutrition... I am leading (kinda) an aid station at mile 9 of a 52 mile ultra on saturday. The ultra will also hit this aid station 9 miles from the end, as will the marathon that begins at the turnaround point. It will be the halfway point for the 18 milers. That being said. The RD gave me $50 to get "fresh" food. She already gave me chips, drinks, pb & J. So I'm wondering what I should get. I thought about maybe some cucumbers with salt. Maybe some melon? It's supposed to be cool and rainy so I also wondered about warm chicken broth but I'm not sure about keeping it warm.  Thoughts?

Winter plan... I'm really undecided on this. I am loving the trail running but miss riding my bike too!

Monument Valley... Utah is a beautiful but moody mistress. In March you could get cold winter, hot summer or absolutely beautiful. That being said, I say do it! I love racing out there. I'm racing in Moab in a couple weeks!!! So excited!!!

Sports... my Rockies were never anywhere near post season play. My Avs are not off to a great start. And the Broncos, well the defense will only get us so far...

At the IM races that I've been at they use a camp stove.  Also, remember warm, not HOT.

Very good point. I'll have to ask DH if we still have a camp stove. Been a really really really long time since we camped.

I also like the idea of candies like M&Ms. I'll have to look and see what she gave me. I remember seeing potato chips and Fritos.



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Chris, during my long bikes I always used Bonk Breakers cut into bite-sized pieces. I would also sprinkle BASE Salt on them for the salt, etc. I had a PB&Honey sandwich in my special needs along with half of a bottle of frozen Diet Pepsi for the caffeine. However, after special needs i couldn't eat the Bonk Breakers any more so I switched to GU, which is what I usually use on my runs. My mouth was so sore that i couldn't eat solid food anymore.

You might want to have Gatorade or Skratch, or whatever you like in addition to water.

When you make that clothes change don't forget to change your socks - dry socks are like heaven!

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2015-10-15 2:09 PM
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Originally posted by fortissimo Chris, during my long bikes I always used Bonk Breakers cut into bite-sized pieces. I would also sprinkle BASE Salt on them for the salt, etc. I had a PB&Honey sandwich in my special needs along with half of a bottle of frozen Diet Pepsi for the caffeine. However, after special needs i couldn't eat the Bonk Breakers any more so I switched to GU, which is what I usually use on my runs. My mouth was so sore that i couldn't eat solid food anymore. You might want to have Gatorade or Skratch, or whatever you like in addition to water. When you make that clothes change don't forget to change your socks - dry socks are like heaven! signed, a person who hate wet socks and shoes!

Agreed.  My shoes were soaked after less than 40 miles this week. I may have 2 pairs of those as well.

ARGH, I am really hopeful that the heat breaks before then. It should be cool to start, but I see the mid 80's by the time it ends. And humid as heck.

Ah well, none of that really matters, does it? Having fun and getting done.

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Originally posted by cdban66

Good day everyone, I hope things are going well as we approach the weekend.  I have a quick question for those that have ridden long distance before.  I have a century coming up in early November.  I feel that my legs and butt will be ready, the only concern I have is calorie intake.  I have been using Hammer Gels, which agree with me quite well.  So, my plan is probably one of those every 30-40 minutes or so and a bottle(ish) of water per hour.  Is there anything else I should be aware of? I figure by the time it is over, I'll be none too fond of gels, so any alternatives to try will be considered.  The ride is self supported, but I will pass my van every 10 miles or so.

Food suggestions: PB&J, fig newtons, a Payday bar for your final lap.  1 gel every 45 minutes will equal how many calories what, 125 calories per hour?  That sounds quite low.  You may want to up that some.

As we move towards fall here in the states, I am inclined to figure out my winter/prep schedule.  I am probably looking at a HM in February, but outside of that I'm kind of open.  So after the century, I'll switch to a run focus with a mileage climb happening over the three months or so and the addition of some speed work. It worked last winter and I may set an aggressive goal, just to push myself a bit more than in past years.  So that's the framework of a plan for the next 4 months or so and should get me through my day of winter.  What is everyone else looking at for their winter?

I'm on run focus from now until about May.  I have the Tuna Run coming up next week, then some recovery time before I start building back up again in mid December.  Oh, there will be a turkey trot in there too.  And a puppy.

That's the best part!

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Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by cdban66

Good day everyone, I hope things are going well as we approach the weekend.  I have a quick question for those that have ridden long distance before.  I have a century coming up in early November.  I feel that my legs and butt will be ready, the only concern I have is calorie intake.  I have been using Hammer Gels, which agree with me quite well.  So, my plan is probably one of those every 30-40 minutes or so and a bottle(ish) of water per hour.  Is there anything else I should be aware of? I figure by the time it is over, I'll be none too fond of gels, so any alternatives to try will be considered.  The ride is self supported, but I will pass my van every 10 miles or so.

I am no help on the PM or gaiter discussions, sorry.  My technology use when training is limited to a GPS watch.  And my running in sand is short distance, so I don't bother, although I can see the benefit.

As we move towards fall here in the states, I am inclined to figure out my winter/prep schedule.  I am probably looking at a HM in February, but outside of that I'm kind of open.  So after the century, I'll switch to a run focus with a mileage climb happening over the three months or so and the addition of some speed work. It worked last winter and I may set an aggressive goal, just to push myself a bit more than in past years.  So that's the framework of a plan for the next 4 months or so and should get me through my day of winter.  What is everyone else looking at for their winter?

On any of the centuries that I've done I've always enjoyed some of the real food at the support stops including cookies and oranges. So, if you can have real food in your van you may appreciate the ability to eat something other than gels.  When I ride long unsupported I sometimes use uncrustables or fig newtons.

And bananas! 

As far as my plan for our 1 day of winter, I will be run focused too.  Of course, I've been run focused for over a year now, so that's probably not much of a plan!! I do have a bunch of races between now and the end of the year and, though I haven't finalized anything yet, I know I will have a bunch of runs after the new year. Hoping to get back to the mountains to run a HM or relay. There will also be -hopefully - a week or two of hiking.

Are you going up for Harvest Moon 2.0 on the 31st?

 

No, I can't make it back up that soon.  They are letting those that can't defer til next year, so I'm doing that.

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Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by cdban66

Good day everyone, I hope things are going well as we approach the weekend.  I have a quick question for those that have ridden long distance before.  I have a century coming up in early November.  I feel that my legs and butt will be ready, the only concern I have is calorie intake.  I have been using Hammer Gels, which agree with me quite well.  So, my plan is probably one of those every 30-40 minutes or so and a bottle(ish) of water per hour.  Is there anything else I should be aware of? I figure by the time it is over, I'll be none too fond of gels, so any alternatives to try will be considered.  The ride is self supported, but I will pass my van every 10 miles or so.

Food suggestions: PB&J, fig newtons, a Payday bar for your final lap.  1 gel every 45 minutes will equal how many calories what, 125 calories per hour?  That sounds quite low.  You may want to up that some.

As we move towards fall here in the states, I am inclined to figure out my winter/prep schedule.  I am probably looking at a HM in February, but outside of that I'm kind of open.  So after the century, I'll switch to a run focus with a mileage climb happening over the three months or so and the addition of some speed work. It worked last winter and I may set an aggressive goal, just to push myself a bit more than in past years.  So that's the framework of a plan for the next 4 months or so and should get me through my day of winter.  What is everyone else looking at for their winter?

I'm on run focus from now until about May.  I have the Tuna Run coming up next week, then some recovery time before I start building back up again in mid December.  Oh, there will be a turkey trot in there too.  And a puppy.

That's the best part!

I'm pretty sure that it will be a workout too.  I don't think that I'll log it though



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Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by cdban66

Good day everyone, I hope things are going well as we approach the weekend.  I have a quick question for those that have ridden long distance before.  I have a century coming up in early November.  I feel that my legs and butt will be ready, the only concern I have is calorie intake.  I have been using Hammer Gels, which agree with me quite well.  So, my plan is probably one of those every 30-40 minutes or so and a bottle(ish) of water per hour.  Is there anything else I should be aware of? I figure by the time it is over, I'll be none too fond of gels, so any alternatives to try will be considered.  The ride is self supported, but I will pass my van every 10 miles or so.

I am no help on the PM or gaiter discussions, sorry.  My technology use when training is limited to a GPS watch.  And my running in sand is short distance, so I don't bother, although I can see the benefit.

As we move towards fall here in the states, I am inclined to figure out my winter/prep schedule.  I am probably looking at a HM in February, but outside of that I'm kind of open.  So after the century, I'll switch to a run focus with a mileage climb happening over the three months or so and the addition of some speed work. It worked last winter and I may set an aggressive goal, just to push myself a bit more than in past years.  So that's the framework of a plan for the next 4 months or so and should get me through my day of winter.  What is everyone else looking at for their winter?

On any of the centuries that I've done I've always enjoyed some of the real food at the support stops including cookies and oranges. So, if you can have real food in your van you may appreciate the ability to eat something other than gels.  When I ride long unsupported I sometimes use uncrustables or fig newtons.

And bananas! 

As far as my plan for our 1 day of winter, I will be run focused too.  Of course, I've been run focused for over a year now, so that's probably not much of a plan!! I do have a bunch of races between now and the end of the year and, though I haven't finalized anything yet, I know I will have a bunch of runs after the new year. Hoping to get back to the mountains to run a HM or relay. There will also be -hopefully - a week or two of hiking.

Are you going up for Harvest Moon 2.0 on the 31st?

 

No, I can't make it back up that soon.  They are letting those that can't defer til next year, so I'm doing that.

Excellent!  It's very good of them to allow the deferral.  I made note of Lake Logan weekend in the newsletter and saw the redux date and that made me wonder.

ETA : Ann-Marie lives in the Orlando area and I live in the Raleigh area.  Ann-Marie likes to visit the NC mountains near Bryson City.  I like to go to Asheville and Brevard (nearby).  Asheville is about four hours from Raleigh.  Bryson City is a wee bit longer from Orlando!  Oh, and the Harvest Moon Half Marathon is put on by the same management team that does the Lake Logan triathlons (Glory Hound Events).



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Originally posted by Hot Runner Dunno about winter training--That is up to the coach I just hired! In previous years I've usually done some kind of run focus to get ready for the Angkor Wat Half Marathon, but I'm finally pulling the plug on that race this year. Every year I think I'm in shape to do a good race there and I don't, every year it all goes south after a lot of start line and first few mile chaos (people jumping into the race at random points, pushing and shoving at the start, etc.). I just struggle to get into a rhythm after that, and the novelty of running past a World Heritage Site has finally worn off after many crappy last few miles past said site. The biggest issue is that it comes two days before our report cards are do, so it's the worst timing possible. Plus after spending seven months getting ready for two HIM, kind of feel like a need a break from the half marathon. Just doing maintenance until starting with coaching in November. Would hope I will get some work in on addressing my weakness, aka the bike!

I'm excited to hear what the coach has in mind for you!  Have you selected your A races for next season?  I think that you mentioned Vietnam 70.3.  Is anything else on the horizon?

I know that several of the Manatees are coached.  Randee, Melanie, me.  I think that Adrienne consults with a run club coach (is that right, Salty?) and I know that Ann-Marie has a run club mentor (is that what I can call Susan?).  I hope that you have a great coaching experience this time around!

Susan is the training director for all the programs put on by Track Shack (LRS) and coach for the marathon/HM training program,  but since she's my friend I don't think of her as my coach.  Until she yells at me for doing one of the many stupid things that result in my various injuries 

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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by cdban66

Good day everyone, I hope things are going well as we approach the weekend.  I have a quick question for those that have ridden long distance before.  I have a century coming up in early November.  I feel that my legs and butt will be ready, the only concern I have is calorie intake.  I have been using Hammer Gels, which agree with me quite well.  So, my plan is probably one of those every 30-40 minutes or so and a bottle(ish) of water per hour.  Is there anything else I should be aware of? I figure by the time it is over, I'll be none too fond of gels, so any alternatives to try will be considered.  The ride is self supported, but I will pass my van every 10 miles or so.

I am no help on the PM or gaiter discussions, sorry.  My technology use when training is limited to a GPS watch.  And my running in sand is short distance, so I don't bother, although I can see the benefit.

As we move towards fall here in the states, I am inclined to figure out my winter/prep schedule.  I am probably looking at a HM in February, but outside of that I'm kind of open.  So after the century, I'll switch to a run focus with a mileage climb happening over the three months or so and the addition of some speed work. It worked last winter and I may set an aggressive goal, just to push myself a bit more than in past years.  So that's the framework of a plan for the next 4 months or so and should get me through my day of winter.  What is everyone else looking at for their winter?

On any of the centuries that I've done I've always enjoyed some of the real food at the support stops including cookies and oranges. So, if you can have real food in your van you may appreciate the ability to eat something other than gels.  When I ride long unsupported I sometimes use uncrustables or fig newtons.

And bananas! 

As far as my plan for our 1 day of winter, I will be run focused too.  Of course, I've been run focused for over a year now, so that's probably not much of a plan!! I do have a bunch of races between now and the end of the year and, though I haven't finalized anything yet, I know I will have a bunch of runs after the new year. Hoping to get back to the mountains to run a HM or relay. There will also be -hopefully - a week or two of hiking.

Are you going up for Harvest Moon 2.0 on the 31st?

 

No, I can't make it back up that soon.  They are letting those that can't defer til next year, so I'm doing that.

Excellent!  It's very good of them to allow the deferral.  I made note of Lake Logan weekend in the newsletter and saw the redux date and that made me wonder.

yes, it really is kind of unheard of to have the race 2 weeks after the set date and allow a deferral, but that's one of the reasons I like doing this race.  Unbelievably, they still have people complaining !! 

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Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by Hot Runner Dunno about winter training--That is up to the coach I just hired! In previous years I've usually done some kind of run focus to get ready for the Angkor Wat Half Marathon, but I'm finally pulling the plug on that race this year. Every year I think I'm in shape to do a good race there and I don't, every year it all goes south after a lot of start line and first few mile chaos (people jumping into the race at random points, pushing and shoving at the start, etc.). I just struggle to get into a rhythm after that, and the novelty of running past a World Heritage Site has finally worn off after many crappy last few miles past said site. The biggest issue is that it comes two days before our report cards are do, so it's the worst timing possible. Plus after spending seven months getting ready for two HIM, kind of feel like a need a break from the half marathon. Just doing maintenance until starting with coaching in November. Would hope I will get some work in on addressing my weakness, aka the bike!

I'm excited to hear what the coach has in mind for you!  Have you selected your A races for next season?  I think that you mentioned Vietnam 70.3.  Is anything else on the horizon?

I know that several of the Manatees are coached.  Randee, Melanie, me.  I think that Adrienne consults with a run club coach (is that right, Salty?) and I know that Ann-Marie has a run club mentor (is that what I can call Susan?).  I hope that you have a great coaching experience this time around!

Susan is the training director for all the programs put on by Track Shack (LRS) and coach for the marathon/HM training program,  but since she's my friend I don't think of her as my coach.  Until she yells at me for doing one of the many stupid things that result in my various injuries 

So mentor kinda works, right?

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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by cdban66

Good day everyone, I hope things are going well as we approach the weekend.  I have a quick question for those that have ridden long distance before.  I have a century coming up in early November.  I feel that my legs and butt will be ready, the only concern I have is calorie intake.  I have been using Hammer Gels, which agree with me quite well.  So, my plan is probably one of those every 30-40 minutes or so and a bottle(ish) of water per hour.  Is there anything else I should be aware of? I figure by the time it is over, I'll be none too fond of gels, so any alternatives to try will be considered.  The ride is self supported, but I will pass my van every 10 miles or so.

I am no help on the PM or gaiter discussions, sorry.  My technology use when training is limited to a GPS watch.  And my running in sand is short distance, so I don't bother, although I can see the benefit.

As we move towards fall here in the states, I am inclined to figure out my winter/prep schedule.  I am probably looking at a HM in February, but outside of that I'm kind of open.  So after the century, I'll switch to a run focus with a mileage climb happening over the three months or so and the addition of some speed work. It worked last winter and I may set an aggressive goal, just to push myself a bit more than in past years.  So that's the framework of a plan for the next 4 months or so and should get me through my day of winter.  What is everyone else looking at for their winter?

On any of the centuries that I've done I've always enjoyed some of the real food at the support stops including cookies and oranges. So, if you can have real food in your van you may appreciate the ability to eat something other than gels.  When I ride long unsupported I sometimes use uncrustables or fig newtons.

And bananas! 

As far as my plan for our 1 day of winter, I will be run focused too.  Of course, I've been run focused for over a year now, so that's probably not much of a plan!! I do have a bunch of races between now and the end of the year and, though I haven't finalized anything yet, I know I will have a bunch of runs after the new year. Hoping to get back to the mountains to run a HM or relay. There will also be -hopefully - a week or two of hiking.

Are you going up for Harvest Moon 2.0 on the 31st?

 

No, I can't make it back up that soon.  They are letting those that can't defer til next year, so I'm doing that.

Excellent!  It's very good of them to allow the deferral.  I made note of Lake Logan weekend in the newsletter and saw the redux date and that made me wonder.

ETA : Ann-Marie lives in the Orlando area and I live in the Raleigh area.  Ann-Marie likes to visit the NC mountains near Bryson City.  I like to go to Asheville and Brevard (nearby).  Asheville is about four hours from Raleigh.  Bryson City is a wee bit longer from Orlando!  Oh, and the Harvest Moon Half Marathon is put on by the same management team that does the Lake Logan triathlons (Glory Hound Events).

I'll soon be hanging out in Asheville too as HGTV will be notifying me in a few days that I won their Asheville house (and car and $$)



2015-10-15 2:56 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by cdban66

Good day everyone, I hope things are going well as we approach the weekend.  I have a quick question for those that have ridden long distance before.  I have a century coming up in early November.  I feel that my legs and butt will be ready, the only concern I have is calorie intake.  I have been using Hammer Gels, which agree with me quite well.  So, my plan is probably one of those every 30-40 minutes or so and a bottle(ish) of water per hour.  Is there anything else I should be aware of? I figure by the time it is over, I'll be none too fond of gels, so any alternatives to try will be considered.  The ride is self supported, but I will pass my van every 10 miles or so.

I am no help on the PM or gaiter discussions, sorry.  My technology use when training is limited to a GPS watch.  And my running in sand is short distance, so I don't bother, although I can see the benefit.

As we move towards fall here in the states, I am inclined to figure out my winter/prep schedule.  I am probably looking at a HM in February, but outside of that I'm kind of open.  So after the century, I'll switch to a run focus with a mileage climb happening over the three months or so and the addition of some speed work. It worked last winter and I may set an aggressive goal, just to push myself a bit more than in past years.  So that's the framework of a plan for the next 4 months or so and should get me through my day of winter.  What is everyone else looking at for their winter?

On any of the centuries that I've done I've always enjoyed some of the real food at the support stops including cookies and oranges. So, if you can have real food in your van you may appreciate the ability to eat something other than gels.  When I ride long unsupported I sometimes use uncrustables or fig newtons.

And bananas! 

As far as my plan for our 1 day of winter, I will be run focused too.  Of course, I've been run focused for over a year now, so that's probably not much of a plan!! I do have a bunch of races between now and the end of the year and, though I haven't finalized anything yet, I know I will have a bunch of runs after the new year. Hoping to get back to the mountains to run a HM or relay. There will also be -hopefully - a week or two of hiking.

Are you going up for Harvest Moon 2.0 on the 31st?

 

No, I can't make it back up that soon.  They are letting those that can't defer til next year, so I'm doing that.

Excellent!  It's very good of them to allow the deferral.  I made note of Lake Logan weekend in the newsletter and saw the redux date and that made me wonder.

ETA : Ann-Marie lives in the Orlando area and I live in the Raleigh area.  Ann-Marie likes to visit the NC mountains near Bryson City.  I like to go to Asheville and Brevard (nearby).  Asheville is about four hours from Raleigh.  Bryson City is a wee bit longer from Orlando!  Oh, and the Harvest Moon Half Marathon is put on by the same management team that does the Lake Logan triathlons (Glory Hound Events).

I'll soon be hanging out in Asheville too as HGTV will be notifying me in a few days that I won their Asheville house (and car and $$)

haha!  Did you look at any cabins or was the weather too ick?

2015-10-15 2:56 PM
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Originally posted by Jet Black On the subject of coaching, I think I'm going to bite the bullet too. I was trying to decide between 1 on 1, vs 12 week block plan (1 on 1 is 3x as expensive). I've basically got two 12 week blocks prior to IMTX and I was planning on doing a run focused block over the winter. So I've decided to do the first 12 week block as a plan and then decide if I want to move to 1 on 1 for the 12 week right before IMTX. I was telling him that I have a season ending 70.3 November 1st, and then would be ready to move into this block a week after that and he jumped my azz saying no you won't! You'll take at least a complete week off and then 2-3 more weeks of minimal exercise before starting!! I like this guy already, I'm not going to know what to do with myself though, lol.

I think that you will really like it and that coaching will keep you on track for your first IM.  There is so much to do that it really helps to not worry about if you are doing the right workouts or whatever -- trust the plan.  It's an individualized 12 week block, correct?




Yes, I'm in the process of giving him all of my pertinent info and he will build the plan for my needs.
2015-10-15 2:56 PM
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Originally posted by juniperjen

So, it's very exciting in Toronto right now - the Blue Jays!!! It's been a very long time since the city was this excited! 

Anyway, i went to swim last night and there were not that many of us - mostly two to a lane due to the aforementioned jays. It was a good swim - lots of kick. A good swim but not a hard swim. My old coach was pretty tough and would really push on pacing and such and making sure you only took the appropriate rest - so far this new group is a little lackadaisical about it. So, it seems it will be up to me a bit to push myself which isn't a bad thing. Maybe I should even move up a lane to swim with people slightly faster than me ...

As for race plans: i don't have any. I am in a bit of a holding pattern. We have a couple of big things on the plan: a huge home reno - so big that we'll have to move out for likely at least 7-8 months and then we are planning on trying for baby #2 in the near future (I have some dental work where I want to take the drugs worry-free) - so my racing is on hold. At least any big plans. I really just don't want to sit on my bum and lose all this hard-fought fitness. and i really do find this stuff stress-relieving!  

Now that's a big reno!

Funny, I was thinking the baby thing was a big reno!!

2015-10-15 2:58 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by Hot Runner Dunno about winter training--That is up to the coach I just hired! In previous years I've usually done some kind of run focus to get ready for the Angkor Wat Half Marathon, but I'm finally pulling the plug on that race this year. Every year I think I'm in shape to do a good race there and I don't, every year it all goes south after a lot of start line and first few mile chaos (people jumping into the race at random points, pushing and shoving at the start, etc.). I just struggle to get into a rhythm after that, and the novelty of running past a World Heritage Site has finally worn off after many crappy last few miles past said site. The biggest issue is that it comes two days before our report cards are do, so it's the worst timing possible. Plus after spending seven months getting ready for two HIM, kind of feel like a need a break from the half marathon. Just doing maintenance until starting with coaching in November. Would hope I will get some work in on addressing my weakness, aka the bike!

I'm excited to hear what the coach has in mind for you!  Have you selected your A races for next season?  I think that you mentioned Vietnam 70.3.  Is anything else on the horizon?

I know that several of the Manatees are coached.  Randee, Melanie, me.  I think that Adrienne consults with a run club coach (is that right, Salty?) and I know that Ann-Marie has a run club mentor (is that what I can call Susan?).  I hope that you have a great coaching experience this time around!

Susan is the training director for all the programs put on by Track Shack (LRS) and coach for the marathon/HM training program,  but since she's my friend I don't think of her as my coach.  Until she yells at me for doing one of the many stupid things that result in my various injuries 

So mentor kinda works, right?

I think she'd kill me if I called her a mentor - of course, I'd probably choke on the word before she heard it 

2015-10-15 3:00 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by cdban66

Good day everyone, I hope things are going well as we approach the weekend.  I have a quick question for those that have ridden long distance before.  I have a century coming up in early November.  I feel that my legs and butt will be ready, the only concern I have is calorie intake.  I have been using Hammer Gels, which agree with me quite well.  So, my plan is probably one of those every 30-40 minutes or so and a bottle(ish) of water per hour.  Is there anything else I should be aware of? I figure by the time it is over, I'll be none too fond of gels, so any alternatives to try will be considered.  The ride is self supported, but I will pass my van every 10 miles or so.

I am no help on the PM or gaiter discussions, sorry.  My technology use when training is limited to a GPS watch.  And my running in sand is short distance, so I don't bother, although I can see the benefit.

As we move towards fall here in the states, I am inclined to figure out my winter/prep schedule.  I am probably looking at a HM in February, but outside of that I'm kind of open.  So after the century, I'll switch to a run focus with a mileage climb happening over the three months or so and the addition of some speed work. It worked last winter and I may set an aggressive goal, just to push myself a bit more than in past years.  So that's the framework of a plan for the next 4 months or so and should get me through my day of winter.  What is everyone else looking at for their winter?

On any of the centuries that I've done I've always enjoyed some of the real food at the support stops including cookies and oranges. So, if you can have real food in your van you may appreciate the ability to eat something other than gels.  When I ride long unsupported I sometimes use uncrustables or fig newtons.

And bananas! 

As far as my plan for our 1 day of winter, I will be run focused too.  Of course, I've been run focused for over a year now, so that's probably not much of a plan!! I do have a bunch of races between now and the end of the year and, though I haven't finalized anything yet, I know I will have a bunch of runs after the new year. Hoping to get back to the mountains to run a HM or relay. There will also be -hopefully - a week or two of hiking.

Are you going up for Harvest Moon 2.0 on the 31st?

 

No, I can't make it back up that soon.  They are letting those that can't defer til next year, so I'm doing that.

Excellent!  It's very good of them to allow the deferral.  I made note of Lake Logan weekend in the newsletter and saw the redux date and that made me wonder.

ETA : Ann-Marie lives in the Orlando area and I live in the Raleigh area.  Ann-Marie likes to visit the NC mountains near Bryson City.  I like to go to Asheville and Brevard (nearby).  Asheville is about four hours from Raleigh.  Bryson City is a wee bit longer from Orlando!  Oh, and the Harvest Moon Half Marathon is put on by the same management team that does the Lake Logan triathlons (Glory Hound Events).

I'll soon be hanging out in Asheville too as HGTV will be notifying me in a few days that I won their Asheville house (and car and $$)

haha!  Did you look at any cabins or was the weather too ick?

I only saw 2 cabins, but am planning to look at more in the winter.  My local contacts tell me cabin prices drop in the winter and with the leaves off the tree you can get a better idea of your view -eg, am I overlooking a dump!!



2015-10-15 3:28 PM
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Originally posted by melbo55

Winter plan:  

Short term: attempt to get my butt running a bit more to do OK at the 10 Across the Bay coming up in a few weeks.  Motivation is still sporadic but mostly low.

Long term: ice hockey, stepping back a little from regemented tri training (ya know, kind of like I've been inadvertently doing the past month+).  After a little regrouping, hopefully restarting a more structured plan with my coach, possibly with my goal race being a 70.3 do-over at Timberman.  Naturally, doing some running races here and there over the winter/spring before prepping for tri season.  Re-lose the 7 lbs. (and hopefully a few more) that have crept back on since July.  

In general, get my life back in order.  The past year has been a crazy one.

Timberman!  :-D  Is a whole group planning this like with Syracuse?  (well, hopefully without the storms shortening it!)

Not sure yet.  LT, my usual tri companion, is at least going there with me, whether she races or not is still up in the air as she didn't quite figure out her approach to next season yet.  Perhaps as word gets out of us going a group will form.  And yes, please no storms on race day until after I am across the finish line!

2015-10-15 4:47 PM
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I'll soon be hanging out in Asheville too as HGTV will be notifying me in a few days that I won their Asheville house (and car and $$)

I don't want to disapppoint you, but be prepared. Someone seems to have won my Ural, the same may happen to you:

http://goeverywhere.ironandair.com/

Yep, it's true, he is taking delivery of my motorcycle and sidecar. Harumph! I guess it's a good thing I didn't quit my job yet 

2015-10-16 3:48 AM
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A races--definitely Vietnam 70.3. Basically a race is an A race for me if it is a longer race and I can get to it without breaking the bank. Sad but true--that usually works out to maybe 2-3 races per year max. Will probably also do a couple of the Singapore Sprint races if I can swing the tickets and other logistics. Possibly another HIM in the summer--still thinking about it. Or at least my hometown Oly, Tri at the Grove.

One of my bucket list races is the Alpe de Huez Tri in France--if I wanted to do it next summer, I probably had to start planning (and saving $$) two years ago, but hoping to do it in the next five years or so. (Mom did mention a "big trip" this year......) Probably crazy, but it really sounds like my kind of race. The bike is mostly uphill, and the HM at the top is at altitude. Climbing is my only strength on the bike, and I can run well at altitude, so I think I would do well if I survived the swim, which is supposed to be rather cold but at least appears to be downriver. Plus there's got to be good post-race food, if it's in France, right??
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Well, some beach. I was carrying my 3 year old out of the store last night and rolled my ankle in the parking lot on an uneven surface I didn't see. Luckily I didn't fall or drop him.

I'm going to be fine for my race in a couple of weeks, but won't be able to run for a few days. This was supposed to be my last big week of training but now I'm going to possibly miss over half my run mileage for the week, ugh.

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