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2015-06-16 3:39 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by TankBoy Rumor around the interwebs is that Chris was giving it a go at qualifying for US Nationals this weekend. How did it go Chris? I actually checked the participant list against last year's results to see who was racing, who wasn't, who may have aged up, etc. It's all rather silly, really..... Dude - if you are not stalking athlinks then you are nowhere NEAR silly. Not that I would do that sort of thing... |
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2015-06-16 3:42 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by ChrisM Race Report is up, lesson learned, don't just pull your cr@p off the shelf from last year and expect it to work! (oh, and eat less and get faster....) ah-hem, er, it does not seem like the pictures you included in your race report are showing up correctly. Let us know when that is fixed so we can go back to read it.... |
2015-06-16 3:49 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by axteraa Home from vacation and back to the grind. We had an awesome 5 days after Alcatraz riding around Sonoma and Napa checking out the vineyards and other sights. It's crazy to me how much the temperature varies in that area. San Francisco's weather was similar to what we get here, an hour away in Sonoma was stinking hot! I think 102 degrees is hot by anyone's standards is it not? I'm not just being a wussy Canadian. I'm also somewhat embarrassed to admit that while planning some riding routes, I discovered that I can load a route onto my Garmin 500 and use that to get around. I've only had the computer for 3 or 4 years... It's just a breadcrumb trail, not an actual map but it more than served the purpose. I'm pretty sure I would have gotten lost multiple times without it. I'm going to switch from riding the road bike to primarily the tri bike now to prepare for summer races. The last few months are the first time that I've spent a significant and consistent amount of time on the road bike and I'm interested to see how my power numbers compare. Anyone have any experience comparing the two and what sort of difference do you see? Welcome back, Arend - sounds like an awesome trip all around! Yes, I am about 10 watts lower on my tt-bike as well, but after some experimenting that is actually the delta between the vectors and the quarq, not the position. when in the drops on the roadie and in the aerobars no the TT bike the numbers are virtually the same, but the position (hip angles, etc) is very close as well, just rotated around the bottom bracket on the TT bike. I mostly ride my roadie (and in the drops mostly) and have no issues switching back and forth. |
2015-06-17 2:21 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Subject: RE: SBR "U" I had an interesting ride yesterday. I took Monday off after my road race, and didn't even really feel like riding at all yesterday but decided that I need to at least get on for a little while not expecting to do much more than a Z2 ride for an hour or so. I warm up for about 8 minutes with nothing special...180ish watts, but notice my HR is back down in the 125-130 range which is where it is when I'm feeling pretty good. As compared to the warmup spinning during my RR where it was closer to 145-155. So I start to put to give a little more effort and bring my HR into the 145-155 range...which is my upper Z2 and notice my power is in the 235-250 range. That's about 20 watts higher than normal. Not breathing hard at all I just sort of roll with it and before I know it I'm holding 250 watts AP and 257 NP for the last 50 minutes at an avg HR of 156. By comparison, the first 45 minutes of my road race was 217 AP, 245 NP, and an avg HR of 170. IOW, 12 more watts of NP on 14 less BPM. I know it's not a direct comparison when you consider some of the surges in a RR, but the first 45 minutes of that race was very tame...no real attacks. While I rarely get sick, I do think I had a very tiny tiny illness that weekend. I remember my nose being a little stuffy and I had a very minor headache which I thought was from wearing my glasses all that week (I was dealing with a scratched cornea and couldn't wear contacts up until race day). Could have explained the slightly higher HR on race day. Just goes to show that you don't always have your best stuff on race day...and when you don't...it's not a sign that your training was totally ineffective. I feel really strong right now. I had some good indicators during training before the race too. Just didn't work out when I wanted to. Haleakala in a week and a half...so here's to hoping it all pans out there. |
2015-06-18 12:04 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Good stuff, Jason. A really good reminder of how useful it is to be vigilant in data recording, collection, and analysis beyond just the "did I do better on any strava segments today?" spotting possible trends like that can really help us understand what might be going on. Or maybe your power meter is just broken. |
2015-06-18 12:11 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Hmmmmm...funny my coworker and I were just talking about this topic. Specifically how (freaking out about) day to day data is much less important than keeping an eye on the overall trends. However, I keep track of almost no data and am still alive thus far |
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2015-06-18 12:21 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" I think I posted it here a while back, but at the beginning of the season we received one of the first USAT grants to help support getting underprivileged and at-risk youth involved in the sport. We received enough funding to cover the cost of training (including swim coaching and pool access), a bike if the athlete did not already own one, and race entry fees for 2 races. So thanks to all of you who pay those annual USAT memberships! Over the past several years our umbrella adult club has also received recurring grants to support physically and mentally challenged athletes. We rolled some of those funds down to the youth team, and this week one of our 7 year old athletes who was born with no feet showed up to practice with a brand-new set of kicks: She was so excited and proud of them - you would have thought she got a super hero suit! If any of you have a chance to work with youth in your area I can't encourage it enough. It is both incredibly rewarding and often humbling. It really reminds you just how much fun and joy there is in this weird made-up sport. Say what you will, at a basic level we have simply figured out a way to take all of the elements of summertime childhood fun (swimming, biking, and running) and figure out how to keep on doing that as adults. Every practice with the kids reminds me of that. |
2015-06-18 12:24 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by Asalzwed Hmmmmm...funny my coworker and I were just talking about this topic. Specifically how (freaking out about) day to day data is much less important than keeping an eye on the overall trends. However, I keep track of almost no data and am still alive thus far Ah, youth! |
2015-06-18 12:26 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by TankBoy I think I posted it here a while back, but at the beginning of the season we received one of the first USAT grants to help support getting underprivileged and at-risk youth involved in the sport. We received enough funding to cover the cost of training (including swim coaching and pool access), a bike if the athlete did not already own one, and race entry fees for 2 races. So thanks to all of you who pay those annual USAT memberships! Over the past several years our umbrella adult club has also received recurring grants to support physically and mentally challenged athletes. We rolled some of those funds down to the youth team, and this week one of our 7 year old athletes who was born with no feet showed up to practice with a brand-new set of kicks: She was so excited and proud of them - you would have thought she got a super hero suit! If any of you have a chance to work with youth in your area I can't encourage it enough. It is both incredibly rewarding and often humbling. It really reminds you just how much fun and joy there is in this weird made-up sport. Say what you will, at a basic level we have simply figured out a way to take all of the elements of summertime childhood fun (swimming, biking, and running) and figure out how to keep on doing that as adults. Every practice with the kids reminds me of that. Awesome, great post Rusty |
2015-06-18 12:30 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by TankBoy I think I posted it here a while back, but at the beginning of the season we received one of the first USAT grants to help support getting underprivileged and at-risk youth involved in the sport. We received enough funding to cover the cost of training (including swim coaching and pool access), a bike if the athlete did not already own one, and race entry fees for 2 races. So thanks to all of you who pay those annual USAT memberships! Over the past several years our umbrella adult club has also received recurring grants to support physically and mentally challenged athletes. We rolled some of those funds down to the youth team, and this week one of our 7 year old athletes who was born with no feet showed up to practice with a brand-new set of kicks: She was so excited and proud of them - you would have thought she got a super hero suit! If any of you have a chance to work with youth in your area I can't encourage it enough. It is both incredibly rewarding and often humbling. It really reminds you just how much fun and joy there is in this weird made-up sport. Say what you will, at a basic level we have simply figured out a way to take all of the elements of summertime childhood fun (swimming, biking, and running) and figure out how to keep on doing that as adults. Every practice with the kids reminds me of that. That is really, really cool! |
2015-06-18 12:48 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by TankBoy I think I posted it here a while back, but at the beginning of the season we received one of the first USAT grants to help support getting underprivileged and at-risk youth involved in the sport. We received enough funding to cover the cost of training (including swim coaching and pool access), a bike if the athlete did not already own one, and race entry fees for 2 races. So thanks to all of you who pay those annual USAT memberships! Over the past several years our umbrella adult club has also received recurring grants to support physically and mentally challenged athletes. We rolled some of those funds down to the youth team, and this week one of our 7 year old athletes who was born with no feet showed up to practice with a brand-new set of kicks: She was so excited and proud of them - you would have thought she got a super hero suit! If any of you have a chance to work with youth in your area I can't encourage it enough. It is both incredibly rewarding and often humbling. It really reminds you just how much fun and joy there is in this weird made-up sport. Say what you will, at a basic level we have simply figured out a way to take all of the elements of summertime childhood fun (swimming, biking, and running) and figure out how to keep on doing that as adults. Every practice with the kids reminds me of that. Very cool, indeed! |
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2015-06-18 12:56 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Has anyone ever done a (guided) bike tour vacation? I'm looking to do one next year in the September/October time frame, but I'm very picky about what I want. I want a tour that does a decent amount of riding (50-100 miles a day at a spirited pace) in a non-touristy location where we'll get to see the culture, and most importantly -- must have fantastic food and wine. I found InGamba, which offers basically everything I want, as long as it's in Italy (Tuscany / Chianti) or Portugal (Lisbon). But I'm also strongly considering the wine regions of France or Argentina as well, and curious if there are similar organizers in those locations that anyone knows about. This would be part of a 2-3 week trip, and I'd be looking to ride for 1-2 weeks of it. I could go either way on renting versus bringing my own bike. |
2015-06-18 1:01 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by ligersandtions Has anyone ever done a (guided) bike tour vacation? I'm looking to do one next year in the September/October time frame, but I'm very picky about what I want. I want a tour that does a decent amount of riding (50-100 miles a day at a spirited pace) in a non-touristy location where we'll get to see the culture, and most importantly -- must have fantastic food and wine. I found InGamba, which offers basically everything I want, as long as it's in Italy (Tuscany / Chianti) or Portugal (Lisbon). But I'm also strongly considering the wine regions of France or Argentina as well, and curious if there are similar organizers in those locations that anyone knows about. This would be part of a 2-3 week trip, and I'd be looking to ride for 1-2 weeks of it. I could go either way on renting versus bringing my own bike. Would you be opposed to self-guided? |
2015-06-18 1:29 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Subject: RE: SBR "U" Anyone had one of those seasons that just never seemed to jump start properly?? I just did the 11th iteration of the first tri I ever did last weekend so I've been at it for a little while. This is the first year I have not raced before June (barring a couple seasons where due to health issues I couldn't), and between taking a 2 week vacation and various small, niggling injuries, sicknesses, etc, I just haven't hit my stride yet. And it's friggin' JUNE! One of the benefits and drawbacks of living in Southern California is we can race from essentially March to December, which I have done to varying degrees of success and failure. Usually if I start in March or April, I find it hard to give a rip about the October race as i'm just pretty much over it by then. Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise, as I can peak in the fall But the year so far has felt like one step forward two steps back. Also doesn't help that the inevitable has happened, and my performance (due to a combo of age and fitness) actually declined this year. As an adult onset athlete I've been able to dodge this particular bullet to date. Anyway, that's my rant/whine for the day |
2015-06-18 1:40 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by TankBoy Good stuff, Jason. A really good reminder of how useful it is to be vigilant in data recording, collection, and analysis beyond just the "did I do better on any strava segments today?" spotting possible trends like that can really help us understand what might be going on. Or maybe your power meter is just broken. No doubt it crossed my mind that my PM was reading high. But being vigilant in data recording as you mentioned...I was able to compare the ride file to other days when I did the same route, and the same type of power efforts and the speeds matched up. Actually, I was a bit faster than I expected on Tuesday, indicating my PM might be under reporting...but I could account for that due to slightly calmer winds. Also to your point, I was able to look up other days (from previous seasons) where I knew I felt really strong and was able to find similar HR to Power correlations...so it wasn't a total fluke. Just one of those days where everything seemed to line up. |
2015-06-18 1:46 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by ChrisM Anyone had one of those seasons that just never seemed to jump start properly?? I just did the 11th iteration of the first tri I ever did last weekend so I've been at it for a little while. This is the first year I have not raced before June (barring a couple seasons where due to health issues I couldn't), and between taking a 2 week vacation and various small, niggling injuries, sicknesses, etc, I just haven't hit my stride yet. And it's friggin' JUNE! One of the benefits and drawbacks of living in Southern California is we can race from essentially March to December, which I have done to varying degrees of success and failure. Usually if I start in March or April, I find it hard to give a rip about the October race as i'm just pretty much over it by then. Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise, as I can peak in the fall But the year so far has felt like one step forward two steps back. Also doesn't help that the inevitable has happened, and my performance (due to a combo of age and fitness) actually declined this year. As an adult onset athlete I've been able to dodge this particular bullet to date. Anyway, that's my rant/whine for the day Pshh yeah. Last year. Got sick 2 days before my marathon (which you can't exactly just go try again a few weeks later) had to have surgery, leaving me racing the 10K national championship with 0 training and then got punched in the nose by a rando, demolishing both my XC season AND my marathon build (although trying to multi task XC and marathon is on me lol) |
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2015-06-18 1:49 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by ChrisM Anyone had one of those seasons that just never seemed to jump start properly?? I just did the 11th iteration of the first tri I ever did last weekend so I've been at it for a little while. This is the first year I have not raced before June (barring a couple seasons where due to health issues I couldn't), and between taking a 2 week vacation and various small, niggling injuries, sicknesses, etc, I just haven't hit my stride yet. And it's friggin' JUNE! One of the benefits and drawbacks of living in Southern California is we can race from essentially March to December, which I have done to varying degrees of success and failure. Usually if I start in March or April, I find it hard to give a rip about the October race as i'm just pretty much over it by then. Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise, as I can peak in the fall But the year so far has felt like one step forward two steps back. Also doesn't help that the inevitable has happened, and my performance (due to a combo of age and fitness) actually declined this year. As an adult onset athlete I've been able to dodge this particular bullet to date. Anyway, that's my rant/whine for the day I think it would be a bit unrealistic to expect similar results as prior years where you had more focus on early season racing. Racing is good training. Not only is it a hard physical effort to push a barrier that we rarely hit in training but it's also builds mental confidence that we can sustain these race type efforts. On the flip side though...like you mentioned...it may just allow you to peak later in the year for something like Silverman. It's also unrealistic for most AGers to stay at peak performance for 5 months straight (June-October) so maybe it's not such a bad thing to not be hitting your stride just yet. You sacrifice great June results for better ones in the Fall? |
2015-06-18 1:49 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by ChrisM Anyone had one of those seasons that just never seemed to jump start properly?? I just did the 11th iteration of the first tri I ever did last weekend so I've been at it for a little while. This is the first year I have not raced before June (barring a couple seasons where due to health issues I couldn't), and between taking a 2 week vacation and various small, niggling injuries, sicknesses, etc, I just haven't hit my stride yet. And it's friggin' JUNE! One of the benefits and drawbacks of living in Southern California is we can race from essentially March to December, which I have done to varying degrees of success and failure. Usually if I start in March or April, I find it hard to give a rip about the October race as i'm just pretty much over it by then. Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise, as I can peak in the fall But the year so far has felt like one step forward two steps back. Also doesn't help that the inevitable has happened, and my performance (due to a combo of age and fitness) actually declined this year. As an adult onset athlete I've been able to dodge this particular bullet to date. Anyway, that's my rant/whine for the day Like mine? Right there with you in this. I did one race back in January I probably should have skipped (injury). Have passed on or dropped out of at least a dozen other things I had wanted to do. Redone the scheduling I don't know how many times now and still don't have anything in. Not even just an event ride you show up and go around. Sickness, injury, and bad weather has really made a mess of things. I don't have race reports or even posted about doing anything besides workouts because there is absolutely nothing to post about. |
2015-06-18 1:52 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by ChrisM Anyone had one of those seasons that just never seemed to jump start properly?? I just did the 11th iteration of the first tri I ever did last weekend so I've been at it for a little while. This is the first year I have not raced before June (barring a couple seasons where due to health issues I couldn't), and between taking a 2 week vacation and various small, niggling injuries, sicknesses, etc, I just haven't hit my stride yet. And it's friggin' JUNE! One of the benefits and drawbacks of living in Southern California is we can race from essentially March to December, which I have done to varying degrees of success and failure. Usually if I start in March or April, I find it hard to give a rip about the October race as i'm just pretty much over it by then. Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise, as I can peak in the fall But the year so far has felt like one step forward two steps back. Also doesn't help that the inevitable has happened, and my performance (due to a combo of age and fitness) actually declined this year. As an adult onset athlete I've been able to dodge this particular bullet to date. Anyway, that's my rant/whine for the day Pshh yeah. Last year. Got sick 2 days before my marathon (which you can't exactly just go try again a few weeks later) had to have surgery, leaving me racing the 10K national championship with 0 training and then got punched in the nose by a rando, demolishing both my XC season AND my marathon build (although trying to multi task XC and marathon is on me lol) Hopefully it's not still snowing in Canada... |
2015-06-18 2:01 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by ligersandtions Has anyone ever done a (guided) bike tour vacation? I'm looking to do one next year in the September/October time frame, but I'm very picky about what I want. I want a tour that does a decent amount of riding (50-100 miles a day at a spirited pace) in a non-touristy location where we'll get to see the culture, and most importantly -- must have fantastic food and wine. I found InGamba, which offers basically everything I want, as long as it's in Italy (Tuscany / Chianti) or Portugal (Lisbon). But I'm also strongly considering the wine regions of France or Argentina as well, and curious if there are similar organizers in those locations that anyone knows about. This would be part of a 2-3 week trip, and I'd be looking to ride for 1-2 weeks of it. I could go either way on renting versus bringing my own bike. Does this help? I haven't really looked at some of the details you really want though. And I pretty much only looked there for this sort of thing because I can get a substantial discount. |
2015-06-18 2:25 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Pro 6191 | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by ligersandtions Has anyone ever done a (guided) bike tour vacation? I'm looking to do one next year in the September/October time frame, but I'm very picky about what I want. I want a tour that does a decent amount of riding (50-100 miles a day at a spirited pace) in a non-touristy location where we'll get to see the culture, and most importantly -- must have fantastic food and wine. I found InGamba, which offers basically everything I want, as long as it's in Italy (Tuscany / Chianti) or Portugal (Lisbon). But I'm also strongly considering the wine regions of France or Argentina as well, and curious if there are similar organizers in those locations that anyone knows about. This would be part of a 2-3 week trip, and I'd be looking to ride for 1-2 weeks of it. I could go either way on renting versus bringing my own bike. Not biking specifically, but I've traveled with KE Adventure and I'd book anything with them again in a heartbeat: http://www.keadventure.com - they also offer add-ons to their trips, so if you like one of the bike tours, it's really easy to just add on to either end of the trip. |
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2015-06-18 2:26 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by ligersandtions Has anyone ever done a (guided) bike tour vacation? I'm looking to do one next year in the September/October time frame, but I'm very picky about what I want. I want a tour that does a decent amount of riding (50-100 miles a day at a spirited pace) in a non-touristy location where we'll get to see the culture, and most importantly -- must have fantastic food and wine. I found InGamba, which offers basically everything I want, as long as it's in Italy (Tuscany / Chianti) or Portugal (Lisbon). But I'm also strongly considering the wine regions of France or Argentina as well, and curious if there are similar organizers in those locations that anyone knows about. This would be part of a 2-3 week trip, and I'd be looking to ride for 1-2 weeks of it. I could go either way on renting versus bringing my own bike. Does this help? I haven't really looked at some of the details you really want though. And I pretty much only looked there for this sort of thing because I can get a substantial discount. How do you get a discount? I was starting to look into some different hut to hut options in the alps...it'll be a little bit of a logistical challenge but that's kind of my life these days... |
2015-06-18 2:38 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by TankBoy I think I posted it here a while back, but at the beginning of the season we received one of the first USAT grants to help support getting underprivileged and at-risk youth involved in the sport. We received enough funding to cover the cost of training (including swim coaching and pool access), a bike if the athlete did not already own one, and race entry fees for 2 races. So thanks to all of you who pay those annual USAT memberships! Over the past several years our umbrella adult club has also received recurring grants to support physically and mentally challenged athletes. We rolled some of those funds down to the youth team, and this week one of our 7 year old athletes who was born with no feet showed up to practice with a brand-new set of kicks: She was so excited and proud of them - you would have thought she got a super hero suit! If any of you have a chance to work with youth in your area I can't encourage it enough. It is both incredibly rewarding and often humbling. It really reminds you just how much fun and joy there is in this weird made-up sport. Say what you will, at a basic level we have simply figured out a way to take all of the elements of summertime childhood fun (swimming, biking, and running) and figure out how to keep on doing that as adults. Every practice with the kids reminds me of that. Awesome stuff! Thanks for the reminder. |
2015-06-18 2:45 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR "U" Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by ligersandtions Has anyone ever done a (guided) bike tour vacation? I'm looking to do one next year in the September/October time frame, but I'm very picky about what I want. I want a tour that does a decent amount of riding (50-100 miles a day at a spirited pace) in a non-touristy location where we'll get to see the culture, and most importantly -- must have fantastic food and wine. I found InGamba, which offers basically everything I want, as long as it's in Italy (Tuscany / Chianti) or Portugal (Lisbon). But I'm also strongly considering the wine regions of France or Argentina as well, and curious if there are similar organizers in those locations that anyone knows about. This would be part of a 2-3 week trip, and I'd be looking to ride for 1-2 weeks of it. I could go either way on renting versus bringing my own bike. Does this help? I haven't really looked at some of the details you really want though. And I pretty much only looked there for this sort of thing because I can get a substantial discount. How do you get a discount? I was starting to look into some different hut to hut options in the alps...it'll be a little bit of a logistical challenge but that's kind of my life these days... Be related to someone who works there. |
2015-06-18 4:45 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR "U" That's awesome Rusty! |
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