Manatee Mentors 2016 - Closed (Page 77)

Ann-Marie - that sounds like a race to put on the race wish list, very cool!

Markus - congrats on the training anniversary, keep up the good work!

Sean - nice new bottle config., the computer holder is key!

In non-tri related news, but sort of fitness/well-being news, I am on my way to getting a stand-up desk at work.  The dude stopped by earlier to look at my veal pen, er, cubicle to know what type to order.  This will allow me to alternate between sitting and standing throughout the day and not just sit.  The downside is our cubicle walls are maybe 5'4" and I'm 5'10"...it may feel a little weird sticking out like a, well, I guess like a prairie dog.  May as well stick with the typical analogy!  Oh well, it beats sitting.  Can't wait!

Your brother is a freak!  I meant that nicely (and with jealousy).  Just follow his plan and I'm sure you'll be fine, after all, you share the same genes.  Kidding, kidding.

To answer your question, I'm looking at the Hal Higdon novice 2 plan for reference.  Week 8 of a 12 week plan has the long run at 10 miles, so 2 miles more than what you most recently ran.  Eh, I'm no expert, but I think you'd be able to get enough training in to finish comfortably, but I'm not sure what to say about your goal time. That may (or may not if you truly share your brother's ability to race untrained) be a stretch.

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by marysia83 I need moral support... I have my very first half marathon on April 9th. I am panicking I won't be able to prepare. I've been running for over two years, but the longest distances were always around 8 miles. So far with preparation for this race, my longest run was 8 miles, and it was over a month ago. My long runs are on the weekends, and given so many issues I have had within last few weeks, I was not able to either run at all, or up to around 5 miles. I am very comfortable with 5-6 miles, I do not feel tired and my muscles handle it very well. I am about to increase my mileage, obviously, but am worried it would be too aggressive. My initial goal was to beat my brother, who finished in exactly 2 hours. Right now I want to enjoy the race and do not get injured. My triathlon training is way more important to me that I would risk any injuries. My question to you, do you think it is still fine and I have *enough* time? I have almost 5 weeks. I run 5 days a week (per my current plan - I decreased swimming days). I will be going to athletic yoga classes to work on joints and muscle strength (this is to prevent injuries). The story with my brother is crazy: the HM was on Saturday and he started running on Tuesday, the week of the race. He did 30 minutes and then 40 minutes on Thursday. He bought running shoes and Wednesday and started eating oatmeal the week before the race (before that it was beer and junk food). Two days before the race he was reading articles on Mean's Health on "How to run successful half marathon".... That was his half marathon training and he run in exactly two hours without stop. No injuries. he slept all Sunday, but went to work on Monday. Just another reason to hate him... Please share your advices and experience....

Your brother is a freak!  I meant that nicely (and with jealousy).  Just follow his plan and I'm sure you'll be fine, after all, you share the same genes.  Kidding, kidding.

To answer your question, I'm looking at the Hal Higdon novice 2 plan for reference.  Week 8 of a 12 week plan has the long run at 10 miles, so 2 miles more than what you most recently ran.  Eh, I'm no expert, but I think you'd be able to get enough training in to finish comfortably, but I'm not sure what to say about your goal time. That may (or may not if you truly share your brother's ability to race untrained) be a stretch.

Thanks Melanie. My brother and i are joking that we are not related, but one of us was dropped at the door I will check the plan you mentioned. Thanks! I was injured so many times I will never ever follow his stupid plan of no plan. He is saying he was in shape, because he did half marathon four years ago. Even though he was not doing a single exercise for the 4 years. Oh well. I don't think I will be pacing myself with the 2 hours. I think maybe I will stick with the 11-minute pacer for at least a half of the race and then see how I feel.

As this is your first HM and your training has been a bit spotty, I would throw out any goal time and just use this race as experience.  Many people run this distance with 10 miles as the maximum training distance, so it is definitely doable. But, again, you have to be realistic with your goals.  A more experienced runner may be able to max out at 10 miles and still race the distance, however, as a novice runner -at least to this distance, you shouldn't race it.  Also, with a HM I think you really only need a 1 week taper, so you have 4 weeks to get your mileage up.  Look at Higdon's plan and see if the 4 weeks have long run mileages you can hit without a major jump in mileage.

And, I second Melanie's sentiment -your brother is a freak

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by marysia83 I need moral support... I have my very first half marathon on April 9th. I am panicking I won't be able to prepare. I've been running for over two years, but the longest distances were always around 8 miles. So far with preparation for this race, my longest run was 8 miles, and it was over a month ago. My long runs are on the weekends, and given so many issues I have had within last few weeks, I was not able to either run at all, or up to around 5 miles. I am very comfortable with 5-6 miles, I do not feel tired and my muscles handle it very well. I am about to increase my mileage, obviously, but am worried it would be too aggressive. My initial goal was to beat my brother, who finished in exactly 2 hours. Right now I want to enjoy the race and do not get injured. My triathlon training is way more important to me that I would risk any injuries. My question to you, do you think it is still fine and I have *enough* time? I have almost 5 weeks. I run 5 days a week (per my current plan - I decreased swimming days). I will be going to athletic yoga classes to work on joints and muscle strength (this is to prevent injuries). The story with my brother is crazy: the HM was on Saturday and he started running on Tuesday, the week of the race. He did 30 minutes and then 40 minutes on Thursday. He bought running shoes and Wednesday and started eating oatmeal the week before the race (before that it was beer and junk food). Two days before the race he was reading articles on Mean's Health on "How to run successful half marathon".... That was his half marathon training and he run in exactly two hours without stop. No injuries. he slept all Sunday, but went to work on Monday. Just another reason to hate him... Please share your advices and experience....

Your brother is a freak!  I meant that nicely (and with jealousy).  Just follow his plan and I'm sure you'll be fine, after all, you share the same genes.  Kidding, kidding.

To answer your question, I'm looking at the Hal Higdon novice 2 plan for reference.  Week 8 of a 12 week plan has the long run at 10 miles, so 2 miles more than what you most recently ran.  Eh, I'm no expert, but I think you'd be able to get enough training in to finish comfortably, but I'm not sure what to say about your goal time. That may (or may not if you truly share your brother's ability to race untrained) be a stretch.

Thanks Melanie. My brother and i are joking that we are not related, but one of us was dropped at the door I will check the plan you mentioned. Thanks! I was injured so many times I will never ever follow his stupid plan of no plan. He is saying he was in shape, because he did half marathon four years ago. Even though he was not doing a single exercise for the 4 years. Oh well. I don't think I will be pacing myself with the 2 hours. I think maybe I will stick with the 11-minute pacer for at least a half of the race and then see how I feel.

I agree with Mel about your brother...

For you, though, my concern is too fast an increase in weekly miles. If you go from running one or two days a week to running five days a week AND increase miles for each of those runs you could be asking for injury, especially if you've had injuries in the past.  You want to build your miles cautiously, so if you are increasing your days per week, you may want to cut back on miles per run. That does, however, make it difficult to build up that Long Run.

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by melbo55

Originally posted by marysia83 I need moral support... I have my very first half marathon on April 9th. I am panicking I won't be able to prepare. I've been running for over two years, but the longest distances were always around 8 miles. So far with preparation for this race, my longest run was 8 miles, and it was over a month ago. My long runs are on the weekends, and given so many issues I have had within last few weeks, I was not able to either run at all, or up to around 5 miles. I am very comfortable with 5-6 miles, I do not feel tired and my muscles handle it very well. I am about to increase my mileage, obviously, but am worried it would be too aggressive. My initial goal was to beat my brother, who finished in exactly 2 hours. Right now I want to enjoy the race and do not get injured. My triathlon training is way more important to me that I would risk any injuries. My question to you, do you think it is still fine and I have *enough* time? I have almost 5 weeks. I run 5 days a week (per my current plan - I decreased swimming days). I will be going to athletic yoga classes to work on joints and muscle strength (this is to prevent injuries). The story with my brother is crazy: the HM was on Saturday and he started running on Tuesday, the week of the race. He did 30 minutes and then 40 minutes on Thursday. He bought running shoes and Wednesday and started eating oatmeal the week before the race (before that it was beer and junk food). Two days before the race he was reading articles on Mean's Health on "How to run successful half marathon".... That was his half marathon training and he run in exactly two hours without stop. No injuries. he slept all Sunday, but went to work on Monday. Just another reason to hate him... Please share your advices and experience....

Your brother is a freak!  I meant that nicely (and with jealousy).  Just follow his plan and I'm sure you'll be fine, after all, you share the same genes.  Kidding, kidding.

To answer your question, I'm looking at the Hal Higdon novice 2 plan for reference.  Week 8 of a 12 week plan has the long run at 10 miles, so 2 miles more than what you most recently ran.  Eh, I'm no expert, but I think you'd be able to get enough training in to finish comfortably, but I'm not sure what to say about your goal time. That may (or may not if you truly share your brother's ability to race untrained) be a stretch.

Thanks Melanie. My brother and i are joking that we are not related, but one of us was dropped at the door I will check the plan you mentioned. Thanks! I was injured so many times I will never ever follow his stupid plan of no plan. He is saying he was in shape, because he did half marathon four years ago. Even though he was not doing a single exercise for the 4 years. Oh well. I don't think I will be pacing myself with the 2 hours. I think maybe I will stick with the 11-minute pacer for at least a half of the race and then see how I feel.

As this is your first HM and your training has been a bit spotty, I would throw out any goal time and just use this race as experience.  Many people run this distance with 10 miles as the maximum training distance, so it is definitely doable. But, again, you have to be realistic with your goals.  A more experienced runner may be able to max out at 10 miles and still race the distance, however, as a novice runner -at least to this distance, you shouldn't race it.  Also, with a HM I think you really only need a 1 week taper, so you have 4 weeks to get your mileage up.  Look at Higdon's plan and see if the 4 weeks have long run mileages you can hit without a major jump in mileage.

And, I second Melanie's sentiment -your brother is a freak

What Ann-Marie and Melanie said.  Get the 10 miles and do it for the experience.  Finish with a smile on your face

And yes, your brother is a freak. ;-)

Originally posted by marysia83 haha thank you Darren

Would you consider planned walk sections or do you really want to try running the whole thing?

OK east coasters. DS2 is traveling from CT to south GA and would like to take a culinary tour on his way. We've already scouted out pizza in NYC and Philly's in Philly. What other cuisines or restaurants are a must see. Note: he doesn't have a bunch of time and is living on a sailors wages.

thanks!

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by rrrunner

OK east coasters. DS2 is traveling from CT to south GA and would like to take a culinary tour on his way. We've already scouted out pizza in NYC and Philly's in Philly. What other cuisines or restaurants are a must see. Note: he doesn't have a bunch of time and is living on a sailors wages.

thanks!

Every time I visit new state I want to try their local craft beer. That's my tradition

Ha! We do that too and he does like local brews, but that's not really an option on this trip. Funny, when he was in Great Lakes he couldn't have beer with his Chi-style pizza

We did one in Savannah, if he gets that far south. Southern food, 7 stops. Shrimp and grits, fried green tomatoes, etc.  We also did one in Georgetown that was less than stellar.  I love southern food, so any that have that focus get a thumbs up from me. You can't go wrong in Savannah. I would also look into Carolina BBQ, but again, I am biased to certain foods.

These are the types of things he is looking for. He really can't do a tour, per se, he is just trying to stop and have the food that some of the regions/cities are famous for. He'll definitely stop in Savannah, it's been a while but my favorite place there was a piano bar   He'll actually be stationed close enough to visit there more often. I did some research and told him to try to get some blue crab while passing through the Chesapeake Bay area.  Not sure where to direct him for the area from Richmond to Savannah.  Probably some BBQ, and he does love seafood and southern cookin'. We had fun exploring restaurants when he was in Charleston 

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by marysia83 haha thank you Darren

Would you consider planned walk sections or do you really want to try running the whole thing?

I don't know... I am thinking about it. Walking the whole mile scares me But I used to do intervals: I run for 20 minutes, then walked for 2-3 minutes, and it really helped me. So I guess i could adapt this. Once I increase my long runs to 10 miles, I will keep an eye on how my body feels and where (and when) modify something. I just hope I will have enough time for such observations and experiments :/ What do you think?

See how the running goes over the next few weeks. This was just something to keep in mind. Probably end up closer to to the 20'/2-3'. The 2/1 mile is a lot of walking and the few minute breaks can do a lot for you. May end up with walking aid stations. Something more tangible. Start running again right as you throw the water cup away.

There is always the TV food option. We watch some Diners, Drive-ins and Dives and have hit up some of those in our travels. Most fell flat  so if there is a different show (BBQ, Burgers and Brews?) that might stand in, I'd say take it. Or a regional type of thing to try in a few places, like Pimento Cheese, grits, etc.

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by marysia83 haha thank you Darren

Would you consider planned walk sections or do you really want to try running the whole thing?

I don't know... I am thinking about it. Walking the whole mile scares me But I used to do intervals: I run for 20 minutes, then walked for 2-3 minutes, and it really helped me. So I guess i could adapt this. Once I increase my long runs to 10 miles, I will keep an eye on how my body feels and where (and when) modify something. I just hope I will have enough time for such observations and experiments :/ What do you think?

See how the running goes over the next few weeks. This was just something to keep in mind. Probably end up closer to to the 20'/2-3'. The 2/1 mile is a lot of walking and the few minute breaks can do a lot for you. May end up with walking aid stations. Something more tangible. Start running again right as you throw the water cup away.

This keeps you focused, at least it does for me.