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2013-02-25 11:52 AM
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brown_dog_us - 2013-02-25 10:34 AM

I learned a valuable lesson:  The people who book through the Best Western website are guaranteed their room selection, but when you book through the travel site it is simply a request. 

I learned this the hard way a number of years ago. I'd booked through hotels.com and chosen the hotel solely for its proximity to the finish line of my first marathon. They called to tell me they'd over-booked and I was being bumped to a hotel 7 miles away. It was a ridiculous mess that involved speaking to a non-English speaker oversees, being hung up on multiple times, and ultimately being booked into a hotel 2 miles away with no other compensation or apologies.

Since then, I have signed up with a rewards account through my favorite chain, and ONLY book directly through their sites or agents. If you do this, you are GUARANTEED your room and preferences. All other sites, like you said, are merely requests. Even your reservation is merely a request as the travel sites routinely overbook.



2013-02-25 3:04 PM
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Not checked in for a wee while. Good to see most are still going strong, I've always been told consistency is major factor so well done everyone.

I've not hit all of my workouts and missed a couple of long workouts or cut them short but it is what it is. Hoping to try to add in a couple of yoga type flexibility classes in the coming weeks.

Interesting reference the Hotel thing, I was not aware of that. Hoping to book my hotel next month I think, looks like I'm going to try for the Flamingo also. As I think I will more than likely be flying solo this trip and experience and with all the logistics of different transitions, start and finish not sure though what the best option is to go for reference my car being at the start and distance from finish line.
Any advice/opinion would be greatly received.
2013-02-25 7:35 PM
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donwah - 2013-02-25 1:04 PMNot checked in for a wee while. Good to see most are still going strong, I've always been told consistency is major factor so well done everyone.I've not hit all of my workouts and missed a couple of long workouts or cut them short but it is what it is. Hoping to try to add in a couple of yoga type flexibility classes in the coming weeks.Interesting reference the Hotel thing, I was not aware of that. Hoping to book my hotel next month I think, looks like I'm going to try for the Flamingo also. As I think I will more than likely be flying solo this trip and experience and with all the logistics of different transitions, start and finish not sure though what the best option is to go for reference my car being at the start and distance from finish line. Any advice/opinion would be greatly received.
I originally was going to go solo until I talked some my wives friends to come along for the ride and make it a small vacation as well cheer me on for some direct support. When I was looking at going it solo I was strongly considering camping near the start, actually across the river, from the start and taking local bus transportation from Windsor back to Guerneville after registering. I did some research on schedules. I would've left my vehicle parked near as I could to the finish and be able to drive back to Guerneville after finishing. I am so glad others are coming with me. I am staying at the Flamingo and they'll be able to drive me to the race start and CARRY ME TO THE CAR AFTER. : )
2013-02-25 10:22 PM
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I bought a used aero helmet Giro Advantage 2 to try out. I am not sure I like the way it fits over the ears. What are folks going with for Vineman? I need a new helmet, but I may stick to a lighter and more vented road helmet; albiet more expensive.
2013-02-26 10:41 AM
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I hear ya about being carried to the car after the finish.  I just told my husband yesterday that we are bringing an air mattress to put in our truck so that I can just ride home on Sunday in the back of the truck flat on a mattress. haha. 

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2013-02-26 11:15 AM
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For those of you who have done this race before, are there changing tents? Do you remember if the special needs bags are at the half way point? Inquiring minds want to know


2013-02-26 12:05 PM
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I haven't done it, but on the various youtube videos you can see changing tents.  About the special needs bags...how do they work?  Do you put one together yourself and label it and they have it at a waypoint on the course?  What do you have in it?  Is it hard to find yours?
2013-02-26 12:51 PM
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kenb - 2013-02-26 12:15 PM For those of you who have done this race before, are there changing tents? Do you remember if the special needs bags are at the half way point? Inquiring minds want to know

There is a very tiny changing tent in T1 and a larger one (not convenient) in T2 at the high school.  Some people brought large towels to T1 and did a change boogie there. 

T1 also had limited port-o-pots.  I think there were two near the change tent.  The change tent is is at the swim exit.  You set up T1 on race morning and leave your gear at your bike.  To use the change tent, it is swim exit, bike, change tent, bike, bike start.

2013-02-26 12:59 PM
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jmkizer - 2013-02-26 12:51 PM

kenb - 2013-02-26 12:15 PM For those of you who have done this race before, are there changing tents? Do you remember if the special needs bags are at the half way point? Inquiring minds want to know

There is a very tiny changing tent in T1 and a larger one (not convenient) in T2 at the high school.  Some people brought large towels to T1 and did a change boogie there. 

T1 also had limited port-o-pots.  I think there were two near the change tent.  The change tent is is at the swim exit.  You set up T1 on race morning and leave your gear at your bike.  To use the change tent, it is swim exit, bike, change tent, bike, bike start.

This is confusing. So you grab your bike BEFORE you change, and the tent is on the way out of T1? Then what, does a volunteer or someone hold it for you while you're in the tent?

2013-02-26 1:04 PM
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lisac957 - 2013-02-26 1:59 PM
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kenb - 2013-02-26 12:15 PM For those of you who have done this race before, are there changing tents? Do you remember if the special needs bags are at the half way point? Inquiring minds want to know

There is a very tiny changing tent in T1 and a larger one (not convenient) in T2 at the high school.  Some people brought large towels to T1 and did a change boogie there. 

T1 also had limited port-o-pots.  I think there were two near the change tent.  The change tent is is at the swim exit.  You set up T1 on race morning and leave your gear at your bike.  To use the change tent, it is swim exit, bike, change tent, bike, bike start.

This is confusing. So you grab your bike BEFORE you change, and the tent is on the way out of T1? Then what, does a volunteer or someone hold it for you while you're in the tent?

  • exit the swim
  • run to your bike to get your stuff
  • run back to the swim exit to use the changing tent there
  • run back to your bike to pack your gear up and grab your bike
  • run to the opposite end of T1 to the bike start
  • run up the little hill there and mount your bike
  • head toward Korbel...
2013-02-26 1:07 PM
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akrenik - 2013-02-26 10:05 AM I haven't done it, but on the various youtube videos you can see changing tents.  About the special needs bags...how do they work?  Do you put one together yourself and label it and they have it at a waypoint on the course?  What do you have in it?  Is it hard to find yours?

They will give you all of your bags at race checkin...morning clothes, T1, T2, Special needs bike and special needs run.  It's labeled with your race number and as you go through special needs area, yell out your number and a volunteer will give you your bag.  

As for what to include; depends on you.  Right now I don't do SN bike, but here's what some people include; Spare tube, extra nutrition, have seen a can of Coke, Red Bull, peanut M&Ms, even a turkey sandwich!

SN Run; bandaids, more nutrition, extra pair of socks, long-sleeve shirt if you are going be on the course after sundown...it can be cold in the evening.



2013-02-26 1:10 PM
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kenb - 2013-02-26 12:15 PM For those of you who have done this race before, are there changing tents? Do you remember if the special needs bags are at the half way point? Inquiring minds want to know

There is a very tiny changing tent in T1 and a larger one (not convenient) in T2 at the high school.  Some people brought large towels to T1 and did a change boogie there. 

T1 also had limited port-o-pots.  I think there were two near the change tent.  The change tent is is at the swim exit.  You set up T1 on race morning and leave your gear at your bike.  To use the change tent, it is swim exit, bike, change tent, bike, bike start.

This is confusing. So you grab your bike BEFORE you change, and the tent is on the way out of T1? Then what, does a volunteer or someone hold it for you while you're in the tent?

  • exit the swim
  • run to your bike to get your stuff
  • run back to the swim exit to use the changing tent there
  • run back to your bike to pack your gear up and grab your bike
  • run to the opposite end of T1 to the bike start
  • run up the little hill there and mount your bike
  • head toward Korbel...

Aaaah thank you. 

I'm likely going to stick with not having to undress after the swim. Just throw on my bike jersey over what I'm swimming in. Sounds like it's a pain to change in T1.

2013-02-26 1:26 PM
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kenb - 2013-02-26 12:15 PM  Do you remember if the special needs bags are at the half way point? Inquiring minds want to know

Bike special needs is shortly after you pass the high school to end the first loop while you are still in town.

Run special needs you pass after exiting T2 and after the first lap and after the second lap.  You can access run special needs at any of these times.

I did not get my bike sn bag back last year.  I did go back and grab my run sn bag with no problem though.

2013-02-26 8:34 PM
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kenb - 2013-02-26 12:15 PM For those of you who have done this race before, are there changing tents? Do you remember if the special needs bags are at the half way point? Inquiring minds want to know

There is a very tiny changing tent in T1 and a larger one (not convenient) in T2 at the high school.  Some people brought large towels to T1 and did a change boogie there. 

T1 also had limited port-o-pots.  I think there were two near the change tent.  The change tent is is at the swim exit.  You set up T1 on race morning and leave your gear at your bike.  To use the change tent, it is swim exit, bike, change tent, bike, bike start.

This is confusing. So you grab your bike BEFORE you change, and the tent is on the way out of T1? Then what, does a volunteer or someone hold it for you while you're in the tent?

  • exit the swim
  • run to your bike to get your stuff
  • run back to the swim exit to use the changing tent there
  • run back to your bike to pack your gear up and grab your bike
  • run to the opposite end of T1 to the bike start
  • run up the little hill there and mount your bike
  • head toward Korbel...

Aaaah thank you. 

I'm likely going to stick with not having to undress after the swim. Just throw on my bike jersey over what I'm swimming in. Sounds like it's a pain to change in T1.

I am tooling with the idea of throwing on some bib bike shorts over my Tri shorts and throwing on a full zip bike jersey so I don't have to pull the shirt over my head. Won't use T1 Tent. I hear it is pretty small. I am also understand that you have to retrieve your own bike SN bag.Will try to give it some color by tying some kind of ribbon to it; I suppose others might do the same,but even if they do I am guessing you'll still find it faster.
2013-02-27 11:06 AM
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Would it be easier to just have my family plan on being at a specific point on the course at a certain time and get my sn from them or is that not allowed?
2013-02-27 11:49 AM
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akrenik - 2013-02-27 9:06 AM Would it be easier to just have my family plan on being at a specific point on the course at a certain time and get my sn from them or is that not allowed?

There were volunteers at SN when I raced here in 2010 who handed you your bag  Family is not allowed, unless they are volunteers.  SN bags are numbered and placed in order.  Even if there were no volunteers, this is a small race, not thousands of bags as in a branded Mdot race



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Would it be easier to just have my family plan on being at a specific point on the course at a certain time and get my sn from them or is that not allowed?

They might not be allowed to pick anything up on the course, when I have volunteered at the SN areas at other Tris, we would load the bags back on a truck to be sent to the finish area. At the finish area either the participant or their family could pick up the SN bags
2013-02-27 1:28 PM
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Oh I just meant I would have them be at a certain point cheering for me and have any supplies that I might need with them so that I don't have to fuss with the official SN bag.  The way my saddle is feeling lately, I may need them on the road with a pillow for my seat about half way through the bike. haha
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akrenik - 2013-02-27 2:28 PM Oh I just meant I would have them be at a certain point cheering for me and have any supplies that I might need with them so that I don't have to fuss with the official SN bag. 

I think that would fall under the unauthorized assistance rule.

2013-02-27 7:49 PM
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akrenik - 2013-02-27 2:28 PM Oh I just meant I would have them be at a certain point cheering for me and have any supplies that I might need with them so that I don't have to fuss with the official SN bag. 

I think that would fall under the unauthorized assistance rule.

 

Shoot.  That probably means that they would frown on me having my kids just push me on my bike up some of the hills and carry me on parts of the run too.  Darn 

 

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akrenik - 2013-02-27 9:06 AMWould it be easier to just have my family plan on being at a specific point on the course at a certain time and get my sn from them or is that not allowed?
I believe it is against the rules to get assistance. Although I did see someone in a video get help from his wife on the run. Liquid and ice. Doesn't mean it was OK. I do believe you can have someone take your T1 gear for you before you leave T1.


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akrenik - 2013-02-27 9:06 AMWould it be easier to just have my family plan on being at a specific point on the course at a certain time and get my sn from them or is that not allowed?
I believe it is against the rules to get assistance. Although I did see someone in a video get help from his wife on the run. Liquid and ice. Doesn't mean it was OK. I do believe you can have someone take your T1 gear for you before you leave T1.

Yes you can give your swim stuff to someone

2013-03-01 11:55 PM
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It's a recovery week so I took the day off today and went out with my wife for dinner rather than running and swimming. Also purchased a new pair of bib bike shorts this evening.Have a great training weekend everyone. A lot to do.
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Well I'm glad you all aren't planning on using the change tent. That'll leave more room for me. I'll take the extra five minutes to change in order to be comfortable for the next six-seven hours.
2013-03-04 10:28 AM
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Didn't exactly follow my training plan this weekend, I did a half marathon Saturday and finished it off with a 20 mile bike back home. I was dreading the bike but it wasn't so bad and I think it actually loosened my legs up after.
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