Which age group is more competitive...
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2008-08-27 12:57 PM |
Chicago | Subject: Which age group is more competitive... 25-29 or 30-34? Initially you would think the younger guys would be more fit, but somehow I feel like the older guys may be a bit more serious, more experienced, and not just doing it to "try it out" or something?? Does anyone know which age group typically has faster times, or which you would rank higher in with an equal finishing time? |
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2008-08-27 12:59 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Champion 5575 Butler | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... I think the older AG are a little more competative if nothing else because you have more people. You really need to extend your options to include 45-49 as that is also a fast AG. |
2008-08-27 12:59 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Elite 2527 Armpit of Ontario | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... For what distance, which race? Best thing to do is check previous year's results. Generally speaking for IM distance, the 35-39, 40-44, 45-49 males are hard-core groups. Just speculating, but likely been in the sport for many more years, more disposable income, at a time in their lives where they can dedicate the hours to training.
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2008-08-27 1:00 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Chicago | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... I'm sure it is...but I'm not quite there yet. I just made the switch from 25-29 to 30-34 and am just wondering what conclustions I can draw, if any, from my ranks. |
2008-08-27 1:00 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Pro 3883 Woodstock,GA | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... M35-39, followed VERY closely by M30-34, followed VERY closely by M40-44.
Pretty much from 25-45 its a dog fight. |
2008-08-27 1:04 PM in reply to: #1632275 |
Expert 938 | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... kproudfoot - 2008-08-27 1:59 PM I think the older AG are a little more competative if nothing else because you have more people. You really need to extend your options to include 45-49 as that is also a fast AG. x2 The ages groups inclusive of 35-45 year olds seem to be the most competitive to me. They may not always win (but they do), but there are a TON of competitors, and they are absurdly fast. The top 12 at the NJ State Sprint, in order, were 19, 26, 19, 28, 45, 35, 49, 15, 34, 34, 48, 42. Teens and "old men" dominated the rankings. |
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2008-08-27 1:09 PM in reply to: #1632306 |
Elite 2527 Armpit of Ontario | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... kagoscuba - 2008-08-27 2:04 PM kproudfoot - 2008-08-27 1:59 PM I think the older AG are a little more competative if nothing else because you have more people. You really need to extend your options to include 45-49 as that is also a fast AG. x2 The ages groups inclusive of 35-45 year olds seem to be the most competitive to me. They may not always win (but they do), but there are a TON of competitors, and they are absurdly fast. The top 12 at the NJ State Sprint, in order, were 19, 26, 19, 28, 45, 35, 49, 15, 34, 34, 48, 42. Teens and "old men" dominated the rankings. Ditto that. My sprint last w/e had the following age results in order of placement: 40-44, 45-49, 30-34, <20, 35-39, 35-39, 45-49, 40-44, 40-44, 45-49, 45-49(F) with the much younger crowd much further down the list.
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2008-08-27 1:15 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Master 1420 Reston, VA | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... It really depends on what race and distance you are looking at. Generally I have found the M35-39 and M40-44 to be the most competitve at local events but the younger AG's seem at have the faster overall times at some of the larger events (IM's, etc). |
2008-08-27 1:20 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
New user 33 North of Boston | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... Depends on the race. Them young bucks will smoke ya' in a sprint - less so in an IM. Same in 5k vs. Marathon. A certain amount of endurance comes with age and experience. |
2008-08-27 1:38 PM in reply to: #1632353 |
Master 2060 Northern California | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... I'm not sure age group has anything to do with competitiveness. Are younger people more or less competitive than older people? It seems to me that triathlon appeals to mostly Type A, competitive (at the least, competitive with themselves) people that love to train and love to race. Not sure if that love diminishes as you get older. |
2008-08-27 1:55 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Master 1795 Boynton Beach, FL | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... I am in the Male 30-34 AG and pretty heartbreaking here in S. Florida where many of the top local triathletes are in same AG. Unless they find a way for me to change my age or these folks find a different sport, I am going to be challenged from any podium spot anytime in years to come... Overall though, would say the 35-39 is most competititve as far as overall winner's go. |
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2008-08-27 1:57 PM in reply to: #1632440 |
over a barrier | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... coachese - 2008-08-27 1:38 PM I'm not sure age group has anything to do with competitiveness. Are younger people more or less competitive than older people? It seems to me that triathlon appeals to mostly Type A, competitive (at the least, competitive with themselves) people that love to train and love to race. Not sure if that love diminishes as you get older. Competitive as in deep quality fast fields..... |
2008-08-27 2:06 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Champion 10668 Tacoma, Washington | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... In most of the races I do, it's pretty much even money that the top 3 overall would be from the 30-34, 35-39, 0r 40-44 AG's... |
2008-08-27 2:06 PM in reply to: #1632440 |
Expert 938 | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... coachese - 2008-08-27 2:38 PM I'm not sure age group has anything to do with competitiveness. Are younger people more or less competitive than older people? It seems to me that triathlon appeals to mostly Type A, competitive (at the least, competitive with themselves) people that love to train and love to race. Not sure if that love diminishes as you get older. I took it to mean how large of a group of triathletes shows up and their relative skill; not motivation related. If four 16 year olds show up, 3 of them have a 100% chance of placing, no matter their skill level or "inner-drive." When 150 40'ish athletes show up for three places, well, then, I'd say that's a bit more competitive. I'm a perfect example of this formula. I run like a gazelle...if it has a lion hanging off its neck. I entered a 5k in June, ran, and went home and checked my time. I missed my one "medal opportunity." Lo and behold my 31:16 time won me second place in my 35-39 division. Of course only 4 of us in that age group entered, and unbelievably I beat 2 people. I was competitive that day, but I was in 730th place for the run portion of my triathlon a month later. I was no less driven - just a whole lot less apt
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2008-08-27 2:12 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Master 1529 Living in the past | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... I'm gettin' my a$$ kicked in the 40-44 AG. In my last event, there were some pretty fast MOFO's on the bike in this same AG - 20 of the top 60 bike splits came from this set. 'spose one could score the AG's using the same methodology as cross-country - points = place and lowest cummulative score of X # of athletes wins. |
2008-08-27 2:18 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Chicago | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... Ok, I gues what I was getting at is, say you finish a tri in 3 hours...in which age group would you finish with the best/worst class rank? Pretty sure we've established that by turning 30 this year, I shouldn't expect quite as good of ranks as last year in the 25-29 group with the same times. Looks like I'm now in a faster age group, or at least a harder age group in which to place well. That was my big thing I guess....last year was my first year and I was pretty excited about being top 30% or close to it in all my races...I thought that was pretty good for my first year. Now this year this I'm pretty much the same speed (different races, so hard to tell), but I'm more like 50% or so in my new age group. I was kinda worried that I wasn't performing as well, but turns out it may be a little of that, but also the new group is a little faster I guess. |
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2008-08-27 2:27 PM in reply to: #1632285 |
Member 55 | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... Rocket Man - 2008-08-27 1:00 PM M35-39, followed VERY closely by M30-34, followed VERY closely by M40-44.
I agree for most part, but don't forget the 45-49 year olds |
2008-08-27 2:34 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Expert 910 North Metro ATL | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... Whatever. W35-39. And even W40-44 I swear the only reason I place in my Ag ( in running--only done one tri) is because the people that win are in my AG. If they were getting beat out by the young'uns then I wouldn't place. I think that women 25-34 are all still having babies. Only time I see the under 30 crowd dominate is at the 5k's |
2008-08-27 2:41 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Champion 7547 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... I don't have the source, but I recall from a year ago that the AG with the lowest average finishing time in all marathons is
M40-44
Are they "winning" the races? Maybe, maybe not, but the difference between #1 and #10 in this group is usually tighter than any other AG, and I'd call that "competitive" |
2008-08-27 3:45 PM in reply to: #1632285 |
Expert 828 | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... I'll throw the results of the last sprint i did in Macon, Ga. The ages are all over the place. From 13 to 64 (I remember the 64 yo blowing by me on a pretty big hill...I stepped up the cadence to keep up but he just disappeared....sheez)...Anyway, of the top 20...two not old enough to drive and one able to get medicare....with a lot of variety in between... 38 34 47 43 39 43 19 21 40 14 20 51 47 45 30 43 64 32 38 13 |
2008-08-27 4:15 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Pro 5761 Bartlett, TN | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... I say the AG anywhere from 35-45 becasue they can afford all the cool fast stuff and the kids are grown up a little more! |
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2008-08-27 4:16 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Elite 3130 | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... duder5189 - 2008-08-27 11:57 AM 25-29 or 30-34? In the races I do, it's 35-39, followed by 40-44. In womens it tends to be 40-44.
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2008-08-27 4:57 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Elite 3088 Austin, TX | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... In terms of deep and fast, I'd say 35-39, no question. The race winners aren't necessarily going to come from that group, but you'll need to be damn fast, relatively speaking, to place in it. At IMLP and IMAZ there were 523 and 426 people in that AG out of just over 2000 racers. That's 25% of the field in a single AG! It will typically be the largest AG in just about any race. It's a factor of demographics. Guys are still in good physical shape at that age if they haven't let themselves go or they're approaching a mid-life crisis and want to reverse the trend, marriage is taken care of if it's ever going to be, kids are generally born and past baby stage so getting some training time in becomes tolerable by the SO, income is stable and building towards its peak. Once you get people checking off the life list, the participation starts to drop back off in the next 2 AG's, but they're still DAMN fast. Seriously, 10:15:50 at IMAZ this year and 10:19:33 at IMLP to Kona qualify in 40-44?!?! And the IMLP dude was 14th in the AG! It had to roll 4 spots to even get to him. |
2008-08-27 5:20 PM in reply to: #1632268 |
Master 1325 Lake Oswego, OR | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... I think the most competitive age group is 55-59. That's the age group I'm in, and I keep getting beat at every race. That seems pretty competitive to me. |
2008-08-27 6:47 PM in reply to: #1633095 |
Expert 908 Niskayuna, New York | Subject: RE: Which age group is more competitive... I can agree that the 30-45 range is where its at. People in their 20s sneak into the podium but in terms of most spots in the top 20 overall there aren't as many. All this talk makes me really nervous because I want to try to qualify for Kona at some point in my life and its starting to seem like next year (my last year in 20-24) might be my best shot |
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