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Indianapolis, Indiana
United States
Indianapolis Monumental Marathon, Inc.
60F / 16C
Total Time = 3h 25m 45s
Overall Rank = 153/1113
Age Group = M35-39
Age Group Rank = 32/119
Pre-race routine:

Up at 5:00 am.
one and a half bagels with peanut butter, a banana and some water
get dressed and sip on 292 cal Infinit HIM Orange
drive to race venue (finished Infinit en route)
#2 again to be sure...
peed and had a Roctane and water just before the 8:00 am start
Event warmup:

jog from porta-john to start ~ 300 yards
  • 3h 25m 45s
  • 26.2 miles
  • 07m 51s  min/mile

I put myself in a position (pace-wise) to come in under 3:16 by bringing my pace down methodically through the first half of the race. The problem is that it took too much energy to run at that pace. I ran at about 5-7bpm higher than I should have based on training indications and knew I was playing with fire. I was on pace plan but thought I'd be going 7:2x at 159-162 bpm, but my HR was in the 165-168 range (Z4) for the first 15-17 miles... I was racing beyond my ability. No wonder I finished slowly after a 15-mile tempo run...

After running a 7:38 at mile 15, I decided to push some to get back to 7:20's. Looking back this may have been a mistake as there were some good sized hills that made pace look worse than the effort. Even though, I pushed, the next two miles went at 7:32 and 7:31, and they were HARD... Mile 18 forward were a struggle. My legs were dead. I managed to sort of hold on, walked a couple of water stops and just pushed as best I could to finish.

Breakfast: 1.5 large plain bagels (350kcal) w/3tbs PB (300kcal), 1 large banana (120kcal) plus 2-scoop/24oz infinit mix (292kcal w/ 70g carb & 3g protein). Total of about 1,050kcal between 5:15 and 6:30. Race time was 8:00

Gu (100cal) at ~ 0, 4, 8, 12, 17 and 22 miles (600kcal between 7:55 and 11:00). Used water to wash down everything including 4 Enduralytes when not consuming Gu. 200kcal/hr is about all I can handle while pushing that hard. I was getting one Gu down every 30min/4mi for the first 1.5hr, then went to about a 40-minute cycle as I was getting a little reflux. I'm 168lb. I figured with 2,000-2,200 kcal in the tank then 600kcal on the course, I'd be fine at ~100kcal/hr.
What would you do differently?:

I managed a 22-minute PR. If I raced more conservatively, I probably could have knocked a few more minutes off. But, I choose to take the risk and really don't regret it. I hurt a lot, but learned tons through the pain. Looking back it was a fun day, in a weird sort of way...

Fuel may have been an issue as my heart rate and pace dropped after mile 17. It's tough to tell by feel weather it was fuel or pacing, probably a combination. I knew I was stretching my limits on pace/HR. On the edge, there's just no margin of error for nutrition nor pace miscalculations.

Post race
Warm down:

My legs were really unstable at the end. I didn't feel woozy or anything and my wits were fine. The legs were just very shakey and it was tough to stand... I kept upright walking slowly for about 10-15 minutes eating and drinking everything in sight. I downed a large water bottle in about 2 minutes. Then I went grazing... 2 cans of Pepsi, two bagels, another water, 2 bottles of All Sport. Finally I layed down in the sun and massaged my lower legs and feet with ice, took 2 Tylenol and began to feel human again.

What limited your ability to perform faster:

Too aggresive pacing for my fitness. I knew it felt too hard for the first half... I decided that anything between 3:16 and 3:30 meant about the same for me. Under 3:16 meant going to Boston in the spring. So, I figured "why not try?" Well, at least I learned something...

Event comments:

This was the first year of the Monumental Marathon (there's another Indianapolis marathon away from the city center). Overall they did a great job with organization. There were ~ 20 aid stations all stocked well and the course was very nice.

No pre-race expo, but I'm perfectly fine with that.

Last updated: 2008-08-05 12:00 AM
03:25:45 | 26.2 miles | 07m 51s  min/mile
Age Group: 32/119
Overall: 153/1113
Course: Really nice course throughout the city of Indianapolis. Relatively flat and fast with a few hills during the middle to later stages (miles 9-20). Flat for final 4 miles.
Keeping cool Good Drinking Just right
Post race
Weight change: %
Overall: Average
Mental exertion [1-5] 4
Physical exertion [1-5] 5
Good race? Yes
Course challenge Just right
Organized? Yes
Events on-time? Yes
Lots of volunteers? Yes
Plenty of drinks? Yes
Post race activities: Average
Race evaluation [1-5] 5

2008-11-04 8:37 AM

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dist time pace Avg HR End HR Notes
1.08:138:13160164weird start, pace?
1.07:337:33166167settling in, ignoring HR
1.07:177:17167170decide to get to BQ pace (7:2x)
1.07:287:28168167feeling decent but worrying HR is too high
1.07:307:30165167feeling OK
1.07:387:38165160surprised by hill
2.015:037:31163164decided to go for it (run under 7:20's) and came up empty
1.07:587:58162161hurting, accepting no BQ
1.07:597:59161161hurting, adjusting goal
1.08:248:24158157hanging on
1.08:218:21156155hanging on, 1st water stop walk…
2.016:268:13154155hurting bad but pushing
1.09:259:25157156water stop walk…then swearing and begin push
0.21:579:45158162legs shaking and unsteady, focus to stay on feet
26.23:25:457:51162172 max

Edited by mbmoran2 2008-11-04 8:38 AM

2008-11-04 9:17 AM
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Not a Coach
Media, PA
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Great effort!!! 

Obviously, you could have run a "conservative" 3:20ish but would have forever been wondering if you had the 3:15 in you.  You're not far off and I'm sure you can get it if you set your mind to it (after some quality rest, of course ).

Nice job hanging on through the finish and congrats on a great PR!

2008-11-04 3:29 PM
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Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country!
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Really great job Brian.  I think you were right to push like you did.  As you point out, you learned a lot for next time.   I am sure I will see you in Boston in 2010!
2008-11-04 6:00 PM
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Lafayette, IN
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Great job!  Way to push!  Sometimes we have to push just to go over that edge so we know for sure where it is.  You sure took a lot of time off your PR!

 Sorry we didn't meet up.  Maybe next race.

2008-11-04 6:04 PM
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West Chester, Ohio
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Super job out ther.  A PR is a PR.  You learned a lot in the process and Boston will be will you.
2008-11-05 7:44 PM
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2008-11-05 9:29 PM
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A wickedly impressive PR!!!!  Congratulations on a strong race. 
2008-11-11 2:14 PM
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Cycling Guru
Fulton, MD
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Without risk there is no reward.

And while the reward was not quite what you were hoping for, a HUGE PR was still there!!

Keep at it, you've got that BQ in you!

Edited by Daremo 2008-11-11 2:14 PM
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