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 2009-09-21 10:11 AM |
Master  1821   |  Subject: Printing vs. Cursive handwritingthe other thread on handwriting got me thinking about this. i never enjoyed handwriting assignments, and i haven't used cursive handwriting since i was a teen-ager. i wouldn't even know how to make a few letters in cursive if i had to now, and it would definitely be sloppier. i'd say i use it in my signature, but even that has just devolved into a scribble devoid of any real letters. i don't think that utility or enjoyment of learning should be the deciding factors in determining what should or should not be taught. but i can't think of any good reasons for why students today should be required to learn how to write in cursive other than that's the way it's always been. |
| 2009-09-21 10:36 AM in reply to: #2417456 |
Elite 3490   Toledo, Ohio | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting |
| 2009-09-21 10:55 AM in reply to: #2417456 |
Veteran 203 , Washington | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting I think you should have to learn it...whether you should be required to use it past say JR High? Meh...seems kinda pointless to me. |
 2009-09-21 10:59 AM in reply to: #2417456 |
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| Champion 4835 Eat Cheese or Die | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting AcesFull - 2009-09-21 10:59 AM My printing is almost indecipherable, and my cursive appears to be in an entirely different alphabet than the one typically used for English. I learned it, but could never make it legible. Fortunately for me, computers showed up while I was in college, so I was no longer constrained by this affliction. Are you left handed? I can read my own writing, sometimes. Cursive just makes it worse. What is the point of cursive anyway. I do agree that it is benificial to be able to read it. But even that is losing worth. The only time I have to read it as in cards from my mom or grandmother. Thankfully my dad uses block letters. |
| 2009-09-21 11:11 AM in reply to: #2417456 |
| Pro 4089 Without house | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting Personally, I find writting in cursive to be faster than printing...it could be the lack of having to pick the pen up from the paper at stopping points...I don't know. |
| 2009-09-21 11:23 AM in reply to: #2417456 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting jimbo - 2009-09-21 11:11 AM the other thread on handwriting got me thinking about this. i never enjoyed handwriting assignments, and i haven't used cursive handwriting since i was a teen-ager. i wouldn't even know how to make a few letters in cursive if i had to now, and it would definitely be sloppier. i'd say i use it in my signature, but even that has just devolved into a scribble devoid of any real letters. i don't think that utility or enjoyment of learning should be the deciding factors in determining what should or should not be taught. but i can't think of any good reasons for why students today should be required to learn how to write in cursive other than that's the way it's always been. I think it just helps to learn cursive if you want to be able to read other people's crappy handwriting. If they stopped teaching it now, our grandkids couldn't read a letter that we write them unless they learned that strange art of cursive. Not only that, but think of all the brands that would have to change their logos. Budweiser, CocaCola, just to name 2. |
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| Mountain View, CA | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting I'm for learning some sort of script, but the cursive they had us learn in elementary school felt awful to my hand. The letters felt so awkward and contrived, like there was nothing natural or fluid about it. Two decades later, my handwriting has evolved on its own into a mostly-connected script, but it's very little like what they had us learn at school. IMO, it's more legible (usually) and nicer-looking than any of my attempts at "proper" cursive ever were. |
| 2009-09-21 11:57 AM in reply to: #2417456 |
| Veteran 331 Roxborough Park | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting I think students should learn it in order to be able to read it and in order to be able to do it. Here's an interesting perspective- I write print and cursive in both English and Russian, and write three alphabets in Japanese. Because of learning all this, I have really pretty handwriting when I sit down and write on purpose (hideous jumble if I'm quickly jotting notes or something) and I love the way a formal letter looks when done by hand. When I want to convey a really sincere note of thanks to a client or a friend, I write it in my nicest cursive because I personally think it makes more obvious that I really care (in my own opinion, I don't judge anyone else for any other kind of writing or typing). There's my two cents. |
| 2009-09-21 12:13 PM in reply to: #2417456 |
Champion 6962 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting I'm left handed and write cursive more than I do block letters. If I have to scribble (appropriate word) something down, it's always cursive. I would say to teach it because it's one step up from block letters. As others have pointed out, if you can write it, can you read it? I don't know. With the advent of computers, sloppy handwriting has become the norm, which I FULLY participate in unless it's a note for someone else. If we get rid of Cursive, then next we get rid of block and just use computers for all writing. Good or bad? |
| 2009-09-21 2:00 PM in reply to: #2417456 |
| Master 1821 | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting i see the point about learning cursive to read it. but my memory includes spending a lot of time mastering how to write it long after we'd learned how to read it. i want to say that we learned cursive letters in 2nd grade, but in 6th grade we were still practicing cursive penmanship. i also use a sort of hybrid form of writing that connects certain letters but still relies on the letter form of basic print. for example, i'll connect an "e" with about any letter that comes after, or i'll connect my lower case "s" with most preceding letters, but it still looks like a print "s" rather than the sail-type thing of cursive. i'm wondering how easily people would pick up cursive over time just through repeated exposure. most kids, i would imagine, know what the cursive "Coca-Cola" means long before they're able to read or write in cursive. they may never have much exposure to an upper case cursive Q or Z, but logic would probably sort it out. |
| 2009-09-21 3:38 PM in reply to: #2417456 |
| Master 1795 Boynton Beach, FL | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting Not to get too far off topic, but there is same argument for Algebra orCalculus. Who has ever used that since graduation? Liek Cursive, IMO, learning these skills expands your mind whether or not they are kep in long-term memory. Looking back, this is my justification for about 80% of the things I learned in College. With all the finance classes I took in school, I can henestly say I could do my current job in the filed of finance with about 10% of what I learned. I actually learned more in my 1 year internship than I did in the 4 years of class-room experience. |
| 2009-09-21 3:49 PM in reply to: #2418386 |
| Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting cardenas1 - 2009-09-21 2:38 PM Not to get too far off topic, but there is same argument for Algebra orCalculus. Who has ever used that since graduation? Liek Cursive, IMO, learning these skills expands your mind whether or not they are kep in long-term memory. Looking back, this is my justification for about 80% of the things I learned in College. With all the finance classes I took in school, I can henestly say I could do my current job in the filed of finance with about 10% of what I learned. I actually learned more in my 1 year internship than I did in the 4 years of class-room experience. Thats completely wrong. Algebra is used by everybody all the time regardless of whether or not they consider it to be algebra. I think cursive is a waste of time. I learned it just like everybody else and the only reason I can decipher it now is because my own handwriting is a pseudo cursive/block letter format that is completely illegible even to myself sometimes. Besides, I hate reading what other people have written in cursive. If someone sends me a card in cursive, I just don't read it, because cursive is annoying. |
| 2009-09-21 3:56 PM in reply to: #2418386 |
| Mountain View, CA | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting cardenas1 - 2009-09-21 1:38 PM Not to get too far off topic, but there is same argument for Algebra orCalculus. Who has ever used that since graduation? Liek Cursive, IMO, learning these skills expands your mind whether or not they are kep in long-term memory. Looking back, this is my justification for about 80% of the things I learned in College. With all the finance classes I took in school, I can henestly say I could do my current job in the filed of finance with about 10% of what I learned. I actually learned more in my 1 year internship than I did in the 4 years of class-room experience. I have... but in my line of work, that's not surprising. Seriously, though, algebra? (Assuming we're talking about the elementary type commonly taught in junior high and high school, not abstract algebra, linear algebra, and so on.) How often do you read a graph? How often do you work out finances that require more than just simple addition and subtraction? Algebra is more pervasive than I think a lot of people realize. Maybe you're not solving quadratic equations on a regular basis, but I doubt very much that you have no use for some of the skills that you learned in algebra. |
| 2009-09-21 4:56 PM in reply to: #2418412 |
| Master 1795 Boynton Beach, FL | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting This is from google search of use of every day Algebra: "We use Algebra in finances, engineering, and many scientific fields. It is actually quite common for an average person to perform simple Algebra without realizing it. For example, if you go to the grocery store and have ten dollars to spend on two dollar candy bars. This gives us the equation 2x = 10 where x is the number of candy bars you can buy." Technically this is using Algebra and we do use it alot. But I was thinking more along the lines of factoring, linear equations etc. In this case, one Semester of Algebra would have been plenty. Figure out this equation for extra credit. Then explain how we use it every day and don't realize it. I will owe my Algbra teacher a long overdue apology if you can. Edited by cardenas1 2009-09-21 4:57 PM (s1.gif) Attachments ---------------- s1.gif (28KB - 0 downloads) |
| 2009-09-21 7:15 PM in reply to: #2417456 |
| Elite 4547 | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting Does anybody else see this as a "dumbing down" of schooling in general? Perhaps they'll replace cursive writing instruction with freaking texting. Like omg! l8r. |
| 2009-09-21 8:38 PM in reply to: #2418780 |
| Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting ChineseDemocracy - 2009-09-21 6:15 PM Does anybody else see this as a "dumbing down" of schooling in general? Perhaps they'll replace cursive writing instruction with freaking texting. Like omg! l8r. Nope. I haven't used cursive outside of my cursive lessons way back in 3rd grade. It is pointless. |
| 2009-09-21 8:40 PM in reply to: #2417456 |
| Veteran 840 | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting Printing followed by Keyboarding would be vastly more useful than Cursive. Cursive will die and yes, texting will be part of what kills it. |
| 2009-09-21 8:49 PM in reply to: #2418570 |
| Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting cardenas1 - 2009-09-21 5:56 PM This is from google search of use of every day Algebra: "We use Algebra in finances, engineering, and many scientific fields. It is actually quite common for an average person to perform simple Algebra without realizing it. For example, if you go to the grocery store and have ten dollars to spend on two dollar candy bars. This gives us the equation 2x = 10 where x is the number of candy bars you can buy." Technically this is using Algebra and we do use it alot. But I was thinking more along the lines of factoring, linear equations etc. In this case, one Semester of Algebra would have been plenty. Figure out this equation for extra credit. Then explain how we use it every day and don't realize it. I will owe my Algbra teacher a long overdue apology if you can. honey you forgot to provide an equation ... that would be defined by an equals sign somewhere |
| 2009-09-21 9:14 PM in reply to: #2417456 |
| Champion 5522 Frisco, TX | Subject: RE: Printing vs. Cursive handwriting I brought up the topic on the other thread. Here are my feelings: 1. Most children never learn to print neatly because before they get really good at, cursive is added in which is I think leads to sloppy penmanship in general. 2. 99% of all communication is done via keyboard - reports, memos, emails, etc, keyboard skills should be taught 3. I think students would benefit from using the time taken for cursive for skills that will serve them more long term such as reading or multiplication 4. Unlike other areas of education, nothing builds upon cursive - it is a dead end. For those that are interested, let them take calligraphy classes to learn it. |
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