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2005-05-23 9:53 AM

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Subject: marathon and an olympic distance in 1 week?
Hello everyone!

Since this is my first post i'll intorduce myself. My name's Scott, i'm 20 years old, from montreal in Quebec Canada, and i'm new to endurance sports.

About 6 weeks ago i started a the novice marathon training program seen here
http://www.halhigdon.com/marathon/Mar00novice.htm

I'm feeling really great about my training. i fancy myself as someone who had a reasonable fitness level before i started running and i'm very interested in the nutrition aspects of endurance sports. I'm looking for a few opinions. Do you guys think it's possible to adapt the program listed above to include biking and swimming such that i would be able to run a marathon on September 11th and an olympic distance tri on september 17th? is this a really bad idea?

A few facts.
i am not a strong swimmer (at the moment)
i am extremely motivated
the swim portion would take place in a windless, still water, rowing basin
the bike portion would take place on a formula 1 race track
there is also a sprit distance tri happening on the same day

please bounce some thoughts off of me, i'm greener then a mango tree but really loving training right now.

All the best
Scott


2005-05-23 10:09 AM
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Subject: RE: marathon and an olympic distance in 1 week?

Hey Scott,

First of all, welcome to the site.

To answer your question, yes, I think it is a bad idea. Yes, it is possible to plan training to do a marathon and a tri in the same general time frame, but 6 days apart, I just don't think so.  Will this be your first marathon? I did my first last October (after following the Hal Higdon novice program as well), and I could barely walk normally for the first few days following it.  Marathons take a lot out of you, physically and mentally, and if you are like most, you'll be pretty trashed afterward. So I would say, pick one event or the other. Are there other tris, either earlier or later in the season? I could almost see doing a tri shortly before the marathon, but not the other way around.

Just my opinion,

Rob

2005-05-23 10:26 AM
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Subject: RE: marathon and an olympic distance in 1 week?
Yep, definitely a bad idea. Rule of thumb is one day of rest for every mile of your race, so you should take 26 days of rest after your marathon. (By rest, they mean no hard workouts or races, not reverting to couch-potatoism). Actually, you'll be lucky if you can walk the week after your first mary. Descending stairs will be a new adventure.
2005-05-23 11:25 AM
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the bear - 2005-05-23 10:26 AM Yep, definitely a bad idea. Rule of thumb is one day of rest for every mile of your race, so you should take 26 days of rest after your marathon. (By rest, they mean no hard workouts or races, not reverting to couch-potatoism). Actually, you'll be lucky if you can walk the week after your first mary. Descending stairs will be a new adventure.

+1

After the marathon you'll have pain in muscles you didn't know you have!

2005-05-23 11:41 AM
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Ok!

it seems that it's an unreasonable goal, even for an experienced athlete. Thanks for the help people.

Scott
2005-05-23 12:34 PM
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the bear - 2005-05-23 8:26 AM Yep, definitely a bad idea. ...  Descending stairs will be a new adventure.

Try going down them backwards. 

Honest.



2005-05-23 1:03 PM
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Tiger Phil - 2005-05-23 11:34 AM

[Try going down them backwards. 

Honest.

I've done enough of 'em to know this works.

Funniest sight I've ever seen: the day after Marine Corps, our Louisiana contingent, with the help of our Congressman, toured the Capitol and the Library of Congress. LOTS of steps. Group of 14 Cajuns going up the steps just fine, going down the steps backwards.



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2005-05-23 1:35 PM
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Subject: RE: marathon and an olympic distance in 1 week?
Don't do it.
I just ran my first marathon this year. I too used the Higdon program. There's no way I would have been able to do a tri a week later.
Good luck


2005-05-23 1:38 PM
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Subject: RE: marathon and an olympic distance in 1 week?
You do both, let us know and I will forever say you are tougher than I am. Only a real Ironman could compete in both.

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2005-05-23 4:41 PM
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Subject: RE: marathon and an olympic distance in 1 week?
Possibly the other way, the Tri first and then the marathon, but you need to give your body a week free from running and then start to build up slowly after a marathon. I use to do back to back marathons about 4 - 6 weeks apart and even that was insane in hindsight, plus I was so sick of running by the time I was done it took weeks or months to get back into any kind of program.
2005-05-23 4:46 PM
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Subject: RE: marathon and an olympic distance in 1 week?

I agree...I could see doing an Oly then a marathon in the same week, but just don't see how you could do it the other way around....The marathon just kills your legs way way way too much.



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