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2013-05-29 10:32 AM |
Subject: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online http://bangordailynews.com/2013/05/27/news/portland/south-portland-... Welp, that's one way to do it. |
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2013-05-29 11:21 AM in reply to: 0 |
Champion 6993 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online I was at a hospital Friday and they did have a board listing prices. Considering my surgery was $8600 but $1600 after insurance price reduction I paid $360 and the insurance company paid the rest I can see how things can get confusing. Edit: I think he would get $10 less than what my doctor would get at least for the basic visit between insurance company and myself. I would still carry insurance for something but it could save everyone money except the insurance companies who would lose money in premiums. Edited by chirunner134 2013-05-29 11:30 AM |
2013-05-29 2:15 PM in reply to: chirunner134 |
Expert 852 Evergreen, Colorado | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online I would totally use this guy as my doctor. I'm self-employed and have insurance, but have a high deductible and pay most office visits out of pocket. It is next to IMPOSSIBLE to get a doctor's office to quote me a cash price for services, and it's not fun to make an appointment and find out later what I'm paying. I recently switched pediatricians to someone closer to home for my kids. Then I got the $155 bill for a standard visit when my kid had croup. Previous doc ran $75 for the same thing so I'll be switching back. Wish I'd known BEFORE I got the bill for $80 more than I expected! There shouldn't be that much discrepancy in prices for the same service. It's ridiculous. |
2013-05-29 2:43 PM in reply to: Stacers |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online Originally posted by Stacers I would totally use this guy as my doctor. I'm self-employed and have insurance, but have a high deductible and pay most office visits out of pocket. It is next to IMPOSSIBLE to get a doctor's office to quote me a cash price for services, and it's not fun to make an appointment and find out later what I'm paying. I have had this problem. When my last company went to a high deductible plan, they promoted it as getting employees more involved in their healthcare. So when I had back issues and a doctor suggested an MRI, I tried to shop around for one. NOT ONE OFFICE would give me a price except "well between $1200 and $8000" how am i supposed to be proactively involved in my healthcare? i ended up not getting one, doing a few weeks of PT, and suffering for the past 5 ish years. |
2013-05-30 6:13 AM in reply to: DanielG |
Champion 6046 New York, NY | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online and here is a great article on why I HATE dealing with insurance companies (and frankly Medicare is MUCH easier to deal with): http://idealmedicalpractices.typepad.com/ideal_medical_practices/20... it is why I am now employed rather than owning my own practice |
2013-05-30 2:42 PM in reply to: TriToy |
New user 900 , | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online My internist went this route about five years ago and opted out of medicare/medicare as well. It was a tough go for her at first but is now extremely successful. She said working for someone else (group/hospital) was not an option because someone else is still pulling your chain. |
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2013-05-31 12:25 PM in reply to: NXS |
Master 1795 Boynton Beach, FL | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online Never made sense why healthcare was one of just a few industries that operated outside the free market. People fight for cheap(er) insurance, but never decide on the price. Now, we do at the dentist and normally eye doctor so I am not lumping into one basket. But.... I wish everyone would ask for an "estimate" prior to their next appointment when checking in. This is more in the case when given a diagnosis etc vs initial visit. Would give you a better idea of how to "shop" for the best price/service/response time. Yet that might make way too much sense. |
2013-05-31 1:04 PM in reply to: cardenas1 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online Originally posted by cardenas1 Never made sense why healthcare was one of just a few industries that operated outside the free market. People fight for cheap(er) insurance, but never decide on the price. Now, we do at the dentist and normally eye doctor so I am not lumping into one basket. But.... I wish everyone would ask for an "estimate" prior to their next appointment when checking in. This is more in the case when given a diagnosis etc vs initial visit. Would give you a better idea of how to "shop" for the best price/service/response time. Yet that might make way too much sense. THAT is the problem, though, because of insurance their offices can't give you an estimate. |
2013-05-31 1:28 PM in reply to: mehaner |
Extreme Veteran 815 Shawnee, KS | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online My family uses a concierge physician's services, and we could not be happier. If you have the $1500 it is worth every penny. We keep a high deductible insurance for catastrophic events too. I am a firm believer in preventative medicine, and the time and access we get to our doctor is amazing. With only 300 patients, he know each of us very well. |
2013-06-01 1:43 PM in reply to: #4760143 |
Champion 6046 New York, NY | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online $1500 is a bargain. One of my partners is leaving to join a concierge practice that charges $50,000 per year per person |
2013-06-03 12:46 PM in reply to: joncolby |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online Originally posted by joncolby My family uses a concierge physician's services, and we could not be happier. If you have the $1500 it is worth every penny. We keep a high deductible insurance for catastrophic events too. I am a firm believer in preventative medicine, and the time and access we get to our doctor is amazing. With only 300 patients, he know each of us very well. never heard of concierge medicine before so i googled it and ... i love it. wish i had one in my area. sounds AWESOME. |
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2013-06-04 10:28 AM in reply to: DanielG |
Master 2264 Sunbury, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online Time magazine did a huge whole-issue cover story a couple months ago called Bitter Pill, by Steven Brill. The premise of his article is to ask a question that is getting asked enough: why are the prices so high? We've gotten really fired up over the politics of who should pay and how, but we ignore for the most part, the pricing of healthcare. It is worth your time. The chargemaster is a term that we should all know a lot more about. |
2013-06-07 7:31 AM in reply to: TheClaaaw |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online Originally posted by TheClaaaw Time magazine did a huge whole-issue cover story a couple months ago called Bitter Pill, by Steven Brill. The premise of his article is to ask a question that is getting asked enough: why are the prices so high? We've gotten really fired up over the politics of who should pay and how, but we ignore for the most part, the pricing of healthcare. It is worth your time. The chargemaster is a term that we should all know a lot more about. The chargemaster is still just a symptom and not the cause. The reason prices are high in hospitals and clinics is because there is way too much demand and not enough supply and insurance skews it badly. If you have an $8000 surgery, you don't care because you're only paying $300 out of pocket. You don't even care if it costs $800,000 if you're only paying $300. If supply and demand is allowed to work and the hospitals don't have people beating down the door for frivolous care then the chargemaster wanting to jam the insurance company loses his power quickly. Same thing if more of the costs are actually incurred by the patient versus being hidden by the insurance company. As a comparison, lets take auto insurance. I pay around $40 a month for my car insurance with a $1000 deductible. I get a crack in my windshield I call around to a half a dozen glass shops and go to the cheapest one. I pay my $300 out of pocket even though I have insurance. The glass guy could try and charge me $1000 for the windshield, but he has plenty of competition so I ignore any gouging and go where the best deal is. Obviously the whole healthcare/insurance thing is more complex than my little analogy due to things like frivolous lawsuits, unnecessary tests conducted for CYA purposes, etc... but you get the idea. |
2013-06-17 8:16 AM in reply to: 0 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online thought about this thread today. i wanted to reschedule (aka cancel) a therapy appt for this afternoon, and forgot. i'm well aware of the rule of cancel a day in advance or pay the fee so i ask the receptionist what the fee is. "well, it can be $10 to $130, it's up to the doc. when would you like to reschedule?" my copay is ~$80. if the fee is greater than that i'll just run in, pay my copay, and leave. if the fee is $10, send me a bill. but i need to know the effing fee to make a decision here. just another symptom of how ridiculous this all is. bring on socialism. Edited by mehaner 2013-06-17 8:16 AM |
2013-06-17 9:11 AM in reply to: mehaner |
Veteran 1019 St. Louis | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online Originally posted by mehaner thought about this thread today. i wanted to reschedule (aka cancel) a therapy appt for this afternoon, and forgot. i'm well aware of the rule of cancel a day in advance or pay the fee so i ask the receptionist what the fee is. "well, it can be $10 to $130, it's up to the doc. when would you like to reschedule?" my copay is ~$80. if the fee is greater than that i'll just run in, pay my copay, and leave. if the fee is $10, send me a bill. but i need to know the effing fee to make a decision here. just another symptom of how ridiculous this all is. bring on socialism. Seems to me that if they don't have a written cancellation policy, you don't owe a thing. Or at the very least, you're in a negotiation. I would start the negotiations at you paying $0 and finding a new doc. But I can't believe they have it set up where the doc can pick your penalty based on his mood. |
2013-06-17 10:13 AM in reply to: kevin_trapp |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: South Portland doctor stops accepting insurance, posts prices online Originally posted by kevin_trapp Originally posted by mehaner thought about this thread today. i wanted to reschedule (aka cancel) a therapy appt for this afternoon, and forgot. i'm well aware of the rule of cancel a day in advance or pay the fee so i ask the receptionist what the fee is. "well, it can be $10 to $130, it's up to the doc. when would you like to reschedule?" my copay is ~$80. if the fee is greater than that i'll just run in, pay my copay, and leave. if the fee is $10, send me a bill. but i need to know the effing fee to make a decision here. just another symptom of how ridiculous this all is. bring on socialism. Seems to me that if they don't have a written cancellation policy, you don't owe a thing. Or at the very least, you're in a negotiation. I would start the negotiations at you paying $0 and finding a new doc. But I can't believe they have it set up where the doc can pick your penalty based on his mood. usually the fee is a flat $50 or $75 or you will still be charged for your appointment, but it's clearly stated somewhere. lucky for me, the appt was the last appt of the day at 515 pm and the doc decided to charge me nothing - she gets to go home an hour early, after all. but yes, "it's up to the doctor" is crazy. (ironic that it's crazy, this is my psychologist office we are talking about) |
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