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2014-08-14 2:12 PM
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Originally posted by Leegoocrap yeah, he had a pretty good split. If that's what your body will let you ride, no point not having a nice bike.

maybe he just hasn't been fit. imagine if he could get a good position

Imagine if he could swim and run.

I prefer to Imagine if I could swim and run

Right there with you.  What's sad is in my local area I'm considered one of the stronger swimmers.

What was a decent swim in the sprint race?  Not necessarily FOP, but a swim that kept you in the game.



2014-08-14 2:24 PM
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10 minutes, maybe a little faster probably.
2014-08-14 2:27 PM
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11 min kept you in it, 10:00 was FOP. 9:30 was off the front.

2014-08-14 2:28 PM
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Originally posted by Leegoocrap 10 minutes, maybe a little faster probably.

I'm on a machine that looking up results is too much of a pain....but I would think 10:00 is more FOP than you needed to be in order to qualify for worlds.....right?

2014-08-14 2:28 PM
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to qualify you could have swam 13, just needed a strong bike or run.

2014-08-14 2:29 PM
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11 min kept you in it, 10:00 was FOP. 9:30 was off the front.

I think that's right.  Jr. was 9:35 and he had 8th swim overall.



2014-08-14 2:34 PM
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Ahh yeah I guess closer to 11. You needed to make the group ride in 30 34 for sure though ;-)
2014-08-14 2:34 PM
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to qualify you could have swam 13, just needed a strong bike or run.

You'd have to hoof it......30:00 was a FOP bike split and 17:00 was a FOP run (actually both would put you in the top 1-5%)....so you're at 1 hour without transitions......and they total a minimum of about 2:30.  Does 1:02:30 get you there?

2014-08-14 2:35 PM
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Originally posted by Leegoocrap Ahh yeah I guess closer to 11. You needed to make the group ride in 30 34 for sure though ;-)

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2014-08-14 2:36 PM
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Here's top 20. I've seen that Denny Kid many times, he goes to the same LBS and he swims with some friends of mine. If he ups his swim game, he'll be tough to beat next year. He was also 10th OA in the OLY.



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2014-08-14 2:44 PM
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Originally posted by reecealan Here's top 20. I've seen that Denny Kid many times, he goes to the same LBS and he swims with some friends of mine. If he ups his swim game, he'll be tough to beat next year. He was also 10th OA in the OLY.

We didn't know him......which is weird considering we come from the same state.  He's a force for sure, but looking at the results, it was his bike that kept him off the OA win...and a smoking fast T1 by Meehan.



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2014-08-14 2:46 PM
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qualifying times by male AG:

16-19: 1:05:17

20-24: 1:09:23

25-29: 1:05:44

30-34: 1:06:34

35-39: 1:07:13

40-44: 1:08:39

45-49: 1:07:43

50-54: 1:09:30

55-59: 1:14:52

this is before age-ups but it shouldn't be too much different.

I picked the wrong AG

2014-08-14 2:49 PM
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qualifying times by male AG:

16-19: 1:05:17

20-24: 1:09:23

25-29: 1:05:44

30-34: 1:06:34

35-39: 1:07:13

40-44: 1:08:39

45-49: 1:07:43

50-54: 1:09:30

55-59: 1:14:52

this is before age-ups but it shouldn't be too much different.

I picked the wrong AG

Unbelievable to me that the 16-19 is the fastest.......I would have NEVER guessed that 25 years ago.  But yeah, your gorup was FAST this year.

2014-08-14 2:51 PM
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Originally posted by dmiller5

qualifying times by male AG:

16-19: 1:05:17

20-24: 1:09:23

25-29: 1:05:44

30-34: 1:06:34

35-39: 1:07:13

40-44: 1:08:39

45-49: 1:07:43

50-54: 1:09:30

55-59: 1:14:52

this is before age-ups but it shouldn't be too much different.

I picked the wrong AG

HA!  For me they are ALL the wrong AG.  

2014-08-14 2:55 PM
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11 min kept you in it, 10:00 was FOP. 9:30 was off the front.

Agreed with this.  I swam 12:09, which was about the same speed as the 12:11 I swam for a half mile in a previous race that was the 5th fastest swim of the day.

http://www.besttimescct.com/results/heartodixie14.txt

Dang sure wasn't in MS anymore...

2014-08-14 3:01 PM
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11 min kept you in it, 10:00 was FOP. 9:30 was off the front.

Agreed with this.  I swam 12:09, which was about the same speed as the 12:11 I swam for a half mile in a previous race that was the 5th fastest swim of the day.

http://www.besttimescct.com/results/heartodixie14.txt

Dang sure wasn't in MS anymore...

The top 4 swims in that top 20 group are all current top level swim club kids......basically monsters in the waters of a triathlon.  They all have sub :50 100's in SCY.  Nearly impossible for older AG'ers to get to....but 10:15-11:00 is doable and gives you a shot at AG podium, even if it won't do for overall podium.



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2014-08-14 3:04 PM
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Originally posted by msteiner

Originally posted by dmiller5

11 min kept you in it, 10:00 was FOP. 9:30 was off the front.

Agreed with this.  I swam 12:09, which was about the same speed as the 12:11 I swam for a half mile in a previous race that was the 5th fastest swim of the day.

http://www.besttimescct.com/results/heartodixie14.txt

Dang sure wasn't in MS anymore...

The top 4 swims in that top 20 group are all current top level swim club kids......basically monsters in the water.  They all have sub :50 100's in SCY.  Nearly impossible for older AG'ers to get to....but 10:15-11:00 is doable and gives you a shot at AG podium, even if it won't do for overall podium.

10:30 swim gives you a legitimate shot at podium. 11:30 you need to be a track star.

2014-08-14 3:06 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by msteiner

Originally posted by dmiller5

11 min kept you in it, 10:00 was FOP. 9:30 was off the front.

Agreed with this.  I swam 12:09, which was about the same speed as the 12:11 I swam for a half mile in a previous race that was the 5th fastest swim of the day.

http://www.besttimescct.com/results/heartodixie14.txt

Dang sure wasn't in MS anymore...

The top 4 swims in that top 20 group are all current top level swim club kids......basically monsters in the water.  They all have sub :50 100's in SCY.  Nearly impossible for older AG'ers to get to....but 10:15-11:00 is doable and gives you a shot at AG podium, even if it won't do for overall podium.

10:30 swim gives you a legitimate shot at podium. 11:30 you need to be a track star.

Yeah, that's why I didn't go past 11........my how times have changed.

2014-08-14 3:09 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by dmiller5

Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by msteiner

Originally posted by dmiller5

11 min kept you in it, 10:00 was FOP. 9:30 was off the front.

Agreed with this.  I swam 12:09, which was about the same speed as the 12:11 I swam for a half mile in a previous race that was the 5th fastest swim of the day.

http://www.besttimescct.com/results/heartodixie14.txt

Dang sure wasn't in MS anymore...

The top 4 swims in that top 20 group are all current top level swim club kids......basically monsters in the water.  They all have sub :50 100's in SCY.  Nearly impossible for older AG'ers to get to....but 10:15-11:00 is doable and gives you a shot at AG podium, even if it won't do for overall podium.

10:30 swim gives you a legitimate shot at podium. 11:30 you need to be a track star.

Yeah, that's why I didn't go past 11........my how times have changed.

That's why I'm glad I have my swim workin. good thing I didn't work on my kick

2014-08-14 3:09 PM
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As soon as mentor groups open up I'm starting my Kicking More Than Van Damme group

2014-08-14 3:11 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by dmiller5

Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by msteiner

Originally posted by dmiller5

11 min kept you in it, 10:00 was FOP. 9:30 was off the front.

Agreed with this.  I swam 12:09, which was about the same speed as the 12:11 I swam for a half mile in a previous race that was the 5th fastest swim of the day.

http://www.besttimescct.com/results/heartodixie14.txt

Dang sure wasn't in MS anymore...

The top 4 swims in that top 20 group are all current top level swim club kids......basically monsters in the water.  They all have sub :50 100's in SCY.  Nearly impossible for older AG'ers to get to....but 10:15-11:00 is doable and gives you a shot at AG podium, even if it won't do for overall podium.

10:30 swim gives you a legitimate shot at podium. 11:30 you need to be a track star.

Yeah, that's why I didn't go past 11........my how times have changed.

That's why I'm glad I have my swim workin. good thing I didn't work on my kick

Dude...none of those top swim guys kick.



2014-08-14 3:18 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by dmiller5

Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by dmiller5

Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by msteiner

Originally posted by dmiller5

11 min kept you in it, 10:00 was FOP. 9:30 was off the front.

Agreed with this.  I swam 12:09, which was about the same speed as the 12:11 I swam for a half mile in a previous race that was the 5th fastest swim of the day.

http://www.besttimescct.com/results/heartodixie14.txt

Dang sure wasn't in MS anymore...

The top 4 swims in that top 20 group are all current top level swim club kids......basically monsters in the water.  They all have sub :50 100's in SCY.  Nearly impossible for older AG'ers to get to....but 10:15-11:00 is doable and gives you a shot at AG podium, even if it won't do for overall podium.

10:30 swim gives you a legitimate shot at podium. 11:30 you need to be a track star.

Yeah, that's why I didn't go past 11........my how times have changed.

That's why I'm glad I have my swim workin. good thing I didn't work on my kick

Dude...none of those top swim guys kick.

HA!  Don't tell folks here that!  

2014-08-14 3:23 PM
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Originally posted by reecealan Here's top 20. I've seen that Denny Kid many times, he goes to the same LBS and he swims with some friends of mine. If he ups his swim game, he'll be tough to beat next year. He was also 10th OA in the OLY.

We didn't know him......which is weird considering we come from the same state.  He's a force for sure, but looking at the results, it was his bike that kept him off the OA win...and a smoking fast T1 by Meehan.




I read Denny's blog, he lost it in transitions, also the winner was not in his AG so couldn't react to seeing him at a run turnaround etc. Although how do you run faster than 5:09's, especially after an OLY the day before :P. I'm planning on going next year, can't wait to have my a$$ handed to me again but it's amazing to watch how fast these guys go.

Congrats on Jr's performance, will he be there next year? Could be a "show me state" finish 1-2

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2014-08-14 4:09 PM
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Originally posted by reecealan Here's top 20. I've seen that Denny Kid many times, he goes to the same LBS and he swims with some friends of mine. If he ups his swim game, he'll be tough to beat next year. He was also 10th OA in the OLY.

We didn't know him......which is weird considering we come from the same state.  He's a force for sure, but looking at the results, it was his bike that kept him off the OA win...and a smoking fast T1 by Meehan.

I read Denny's blog, he lost it in transitions, also the winner was not in his AG so couldn't react to seeing him at a run turnaround etc. Although how do you run faster than 5:09's, especially after an OLY the day before :P. I'm planning on going next year, can't wait to have my a$$ handed to me again but it's amazing to watch how fast these guys go. Congrats on Jr's performance, will he be there next year? Could be a "show me state" finish 1-2

I don't know.....probably, but it kind of depends on how he develops over the next year.  He is actually a very young 17 AG since he has a late December B-day....he's barely 16 1/2. His focus is still on the Jr. Elite DL circuit and High School XC and track.  But I can tell you this.....he was looking over the results and saw Denny....he said, "dad, that guy's from Missouri, we need to find a race that he is doing next year so I can race head to head with him, that would be awesome."   LOL

2014-08-14 4:54 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by reecealan
Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by reecealan Here's top 20. I've seen that Denny Kid many times, he goes to the same LBS and he swims with some friends of mine. If he ups his swim game, he'll be tough to beat next year. He was also 10th OA in the OLY.

We didn't know him......which is weird considering we come from the same state.  He's a force for sure, but looking at the results, it was his bike that kept him off the OA win...and a smoking fast T1 by Meehan.

I read Denny's blog, he lost it in transitions, also the winner was not in his AG so couldn't react to seeing him at a run turnaround etc. Although how do you run faster than 5:09's, especially after an OLY the day before :P. I'm planning on going next year, can't wait to have my a$$ handed to me again but it's amazing to watch how fast these guys go. Congrats on Jr's performance, will he be there next year? Could be a "show me state" finish 1-2

I don't know.....probably, but it kind of depends on how he develops over the next year.  He is actually a very young 17 AG since he has a late December B-day....he's barely 16 1/2. His focus is still on the Jr. Elite DL circuit and High School XC and track.  But I can tell you this.....he was looking over the results and saw Denny....he said, "dad, that guy's from Missouri, we need to find a race that he is doing next year so I can race head to head with him, that would be awesome."   LOL




Agree, a couple races this year were fights for second place. If I get any tips on his race schedule, I'll let you know (LBS mechanics like pizza, LOL)
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