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2007-08-21 8:02 AM

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Subject: Current Ohio river temps

Well, I will bring my wetsuit, but with temps like this we won't be able to use them.

I just saw this on the  other  Tri forum:

 


Tuesday morning (8/21) update at 6:40am in front of Joe' Crab shack

Air temperature - 80 F.

Water temperature from 18" to 8' depth- 84.6 F.

 



2007-08-21 3:15 PM
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My recommendation is to bring the wet suit. It is raining up river in Ohio. I did the Great Buckeye race up there last weekend and they were wetsuit legal. It is also raining in the Ville today.

Even though this is not an IM NA race in the past IM NA has done everything they can to make their races wetsuit legal. 2 miles is a long way for folks who are not used to racing that far in open water. The race org would rather not have to fish anyone out.
2007-08-21 10:03 PM
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We got 1.5" of rain today and the local weather guys are calling for Thunderstorms on Saturday night. So there's a possibility of the river cooling off some.

I swam the river on Sunday morning and it was like bath water....
2007-08-22 6:09 AM
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Did you wear a wet suit?
2007-08-22 9:03 AM
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Bath water? OH YES! Even more reason for me to sign up for IMKY 2008 in 6 days!

I LOVE warm water... and I hate swimming in wetsuits.
2007-08-22 10:20 AM
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Bath water or not, I don't think that is normal anyway.  I heard that Louisville that there is a record 22 days with temps over the 90's.  Hence the warm water.  I think it should be hovering around 75-78


2007-08-23 7:03 AM
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Many of those days were over 100... like today!

I did not wear a wetsuit. We're expecting rain on Friday/ Saturday so it may cool the water down somewhat. Doubtful it will get down to 78 though.
2007-08-23 9:54 AM
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they changed the swim....goin to be a fast current.


2007-08-23 9:57 AM
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"Based on historical river flow data, we were hopeful that our original swim course design could be utilized.  After further consultation with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), we determined our alternative swim course is best suited for Sunday's river conditions.  A time-trial swim start will offer athletes a unique beginning to their Ironman experience in Louisville," says Steve Meckfessel, Event Director.
 
Details relating to the new Ford Ironman Louisville swim course are as follows:
  • On race morning, athletes will walk 3/4 mile from Waterfront Park to the swim start, located at the Brown Forman Amphitheater, just east of Tumbleweed Southwest Grill.
  • Athletes will self-seed themselves at the start based on their projected swim time.
  • A mass swim start will begin at 6:50 a.m. for nearly 40 professional athletes, and a time trial start will follow at 7 a.m. for age group athletes.
  • To reduce athlete congestion during the swim, the time trial start will consist of athletes entering the water every few seconds.  Athletes will be required to cross a timing mat before entering the water, to record their official start time.  Overall finish times will reflect the time at which each athlete enters the water, vs. the 7 a.m. start time.
  • The new swim course will encompass the traditional 2.4 miles.  As a result of the increased river flow downstream, slightly faster swim times can be expected.
 
The inaugural event will lead more than 2,100 athletes on a journey through Louisville and surrounding communities to include the city of LaGrange, Oldham and Henry Counties.  There will be 50 slots to this year's Ford Ironman World Championship taking place on October 13, 2007 in Kailua-Kona, Hawaii.  Additionally, professional athletes will compete for a $50,000 prize purse.  The event will be televised on Versus (VS.) later this year.

To download maps for the swim, bike, or run course, and/or for road impact information, please see the "Quick Links" section of the http://www.ironmanlouisville.com website.
2007-08-23 10:08 AM
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You've got to be kidding me ........ a TT start to an Ironman????  Even starting on 3 second intervals by the time the 2100th person goes off it will be at least an hour and a half later ......... and they are going to make people swim with the current and not against it?  Jeez ....... the pros are going to be out of the water in the low 40's probably.

Sucks not to be able to use a wetsuit.  That is going to force a lot of mediocre and weak swimmers to freak out ......

(And to reiterate previous threads on the topic, if it is allowed, you are a fool not to use one, even at the elite level unless you are a sub 1:00/100 m or so swimmer).

2007-08-23 10:25 AM
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Daremo - 2007-08-23 10:08 AM

You've got to be kidding me ........ a TT start to an Ironman????  Even starting on 3 second intervals by the time the 2100th person goes off it will be at least an hour and a half later ......... and they are going to make people swim with the current and not against it?  Jeez ....... the pros are going to be out of the water in the low 40's probably.

Sucks not to be able to use a wetsuit.  That is going to force a lot of mediocre and weak swimmers to freak out ......

(And to reiterate previous threads on the topic, if it is allowed, you are a fool not to use one, even at the elite level unless you are a sub 1:00/100 m or so swimmer).



Ok, if you ask me... it keep getting better and better! We could only HOPE for something like this in 2008.

But I agree, if you get off to a late start... that takes racing time away from you. For someone like me looking a 16 hour IM... I can't afford to lose a lot of time on my swim start.

I have to say though, the idea of not being in a mass start, swimming WITH the current, and not wearing a wetsuit... sounds like a heavenly race!


2007-08-23 10:28 AM
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Yeah, sounds just like a sprint ..... not an Ironman event ......... Tongue out
2007-08-23 10:29 AM
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what I was curious about it how they're going to handle the cut off time now that people will be starting well after 8 a.m.? 
2007-08-23 10:32 AM
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WTF??????
2007-08-23 10:36 AM
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Rocket Man - 2007-08-23 11:32 AM WTF??????

Same thing I was saying ........

2007-08-23 10:38 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2007-08-23 10:29 AM

what I was curious about it how they're going to handle the cut off time now that people will be starting well after 8 a.m.? 


Well they will still probably cut the time off at 17 hours. How much of a cluster would it be trying to determine if the person coming across the line after hour 17 if they were legit or not?

I can see it now, time 17:30-

"John Smith... uuummm... you are an Ironman!"
"Mary Jones... hhhuuummm... you are NOT an Ironman. Sorry about that."


2007-08-23 11:11 AM
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Daremo - 2007-08-23 11:36 AM

Rocket Man - 2007-08-23 11:32 AM WTF??????

Same thing I was saying ........

WOW!  WTF is right!   In my opinion (as a qualified weak swimmer), part of the true IM experience is surviving the mass swim start.  And this doesn't even consider what this does to the field for the rest of the day.   As stated above, calculators will be required to determine if someone makes the cut-off times.

Oh well, good luck to all of our BT athletes.  Enjoy the experience!



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2007-08-23 1:02 PM
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Sucks for people who are honest and self seed at the back and then cut it really, really close to midnight or don't make it at all, but only by a few minutes.  If I started at 7:30 and made it across the line at 12:05, I'd be pretty upset with the official "DNF."
2007-08-23 1:41 PM
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This sounds like  a bunch of crap.  WTF?? This is suppose to be an ironman and half the battle (well maybe not half) is surviving the swim start.  Shouldn't the contigency plan included a mass start?  I say ditch KY and move to TX next year (ha ha).  Seriously though, this suck for some but others will definately like it.


2007-08-23 1:41 PM
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its for safety that they are doin this.
i would rather have a tt swim with a fast swim time.

2007-08-23 3:05 PM
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JeepFleeb - 2007-08-23 12:43 PM

Andrew and I swam for 30 minutes in the river today.  Temps are definitely too warm for wetsuits.  There's not even a question.

The currents are definitely strong.  We swam out for 15 minutes, turned around, and got back in 4. 

 

This just blows me away! The current must be really fast. I'm curious though, if you swam for 30 minutes and swam out for 15 and back in 4...where did the other 11 minutes go?

 

~Mike



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2007-08-23 3:09 PM
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Do you think the current is fast enough that slow swimmers (those who already expecting to be pushing the swim cutoff) might truly not be able to make forward progress against it?

Take a "2 hour IM swimmer" for example.  They're swimming 1.2 mph with no current.  If the current is faster than that, these people are going backwards in the upstream section.

I suppose that's precisely why they moved the swim start to a spot where the currents are a little weaker, as you said. 

-Steve 

2007-08-23 3:20 PM
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Steve in IL - 2007-08-23 3:09 PM

Do you think the current is fast enough that slow swimmers (those who already expecting to be pushing the swim cutoff) might truly not be able to make forward progress against it?

Take a "2 hour IM swimmer" for example.  They're swimming 1.2 mph with no current.  If the current is faster than that, these people are going backwards in the upstream section.

I suppose that's precisely why they moved the swim start to a spot where the currents are a little weaker, as you said. 

-Steve 



From what I understand, they have changed the course, so participants can swim WITH the current the entire way... and not have to swim against it.

The new swim course will encompass the traditional 2.4 miles. As a result of the increased river flow downstream, slightly faster swim times can be expected.


But if everyone swims WITH the current... then the swim times will be fast!

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