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2012-09-25 9:24 AM

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So, my high schoolers came home a week or two ago and mentioned that there's an outright revolt at the school against Obama due to the new school lunch menu program.  My boys are both student athletes and literally starving after lunch.  The oldest is now leaving school every day (seniors get to do this) to eat fast food and there's quite a black market being formed so the kids can actually eat food at lunch now.

I kind of chuckled it off when they told me about it but then I saw this headline today and it looks to be a litte more wide spread.

http://townhall.com/columnists/kyleolson/2012/09/23/complaints_mount_against_michelle_obamas_new_lunch_menu

Yet another example of the nanny state trying to force people to be healthy which is resulting in them spending more money (buying multiple lunches) or eating fast food which is far more unhealthy than the old lunches.  The net effect is just another hidden tax on us parents.

Any of the other parents out there hearing complaints from your kids?



2012-09-25 9:27 AM
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Hmmm, I call BS. The school lunches were never very big to begin with. I was a very competitive swimmer in high school You know what I had to do to eat enough? I brought 4 sandwiches for a snack between breakfast and lunch. Then I'd order 2 lunches.

 

ETA: "One thing I think we need to keep in mind as kids say they're still hungry is that many children aren't used to eating fruits and vegetables at home, much less at school. So it's a change in what they are eating. If they are still hungry, it's that they are not eating all the food that's being offered," USDA Deputy Undersecretary Janey Thornton was quoted as saying.

Seems like it's their own fault as well.



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You would not believe how much money my wife dumps into my kid's lunch accounts just so they can buy 2 or 3 meals because they are starving.  Like yours, my kids are athletes.....both in-school sports and then swimming after school sports....they'll eat a desk if food not available. 

Yeah, I realize that we can send them with lunches, and we did when they were in grade school, but it's less practical now with everything we have going on..

In short.....I agree with your post, tuwood......what passes for a "lunch" with this program is laughable for anyone who isn't obese.

2012-09-25 9:31 AM
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Seriously, you need pizza and fries everyday. What is this green stuff? Not touching that.
2012-09-25 9:32 AM
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JoshR - 2012-09-25 9:27 AM

Hmmm, I call BS. The school lunches were never very big to begin with. I was a very competitive swimmer in high school You know what I had to do to eat enough? I brought 4 sandwiches for a snack between breakfast and lunch. Then I'd order 2 lunches.

 

ETA: "One thing I think we need to keep in mind as kids say they're still hungry is that many children aren't used to eating fruits and vegetables at home, much less at school. So it's a change in what they are eating. If they are still hungry, it's that they are not eating all the food that's being offered," USDA Deputy Undersecretary Janey Thornton was quoted as saying.

Seems like it's their own fault as well.

That's not true for kids who are fit......my kids eat bowls of raw fruit and vegetables at home....they wouldn't eat fast food if you put it in front of them....they hate it. 

I get your point about buying two lunches.....you'd have to buy 4 now.  It's not the same.



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My son's favortie line when his lunch account is empty, "hey dad,could you please have mom put some money in my lunch account.....I'm not eating the government cheese!!" Laughing


2012-09-25 9:34 AM
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Left Brain - 2012-09-25 9:29 AM

You would not believe how much money my wife dumps into my kid's lunch accounts just so they can buy 2 or 3 meals because they are starving.  Like yours, my kids are athletes.....both in-school sports and then swimming after school sports....they'll eat a desk if food not available. 

Yeah, I realize that we can send them with lunches, and we did when they were in grade school, but it's less practical now with everything we have going on..

In short.....I agree with your post, tuwood......what passes for a "lunch" with this program is laughable for anyone who isn't obese.



I was going to say `Why don't they take food from home?' which is what we did in high school because the school lunches were NEVER big enough. But in this hectic day and age, it seems neither the parents nor the kids have time to throw together a couple sandwiches in the morning. Instead they'd rather just blame the schools for failing to provide for their children. What was that about a nanny state?
2012-09-25 9:35 AM
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Left Brain - 2012-09-25 8:32 AM
JoshR - 2012-09-25 9:27 AM

Hmmm, I call BS. The school lunches were never very big to begin with. I was a very competitive swimmer in high school You know what I had to do to eat enough? I brought 4 sandwiches for a snack between breakfast and lunch. Then I'd order 2 lunches.

 

ETA: "One thing I think we need to keep in mind as kids say they're still hungry is that many children aren't used to eating fruits and vegetables at home, much less at school. So it's a change in what they are eating. If they are still hungry, it's that they are not eating all the food that's being offered," USDA Deputy Undersecretary Janey Thornton was quoted as saying.

Seems like it's their own fault as well.

That's not true for kids who are fit......my kids eat bowls of raw fruit and vegetables at home....they wouldn't eat fast food if you put it in front of them....they hate it. 

I get your point about buying two lunches.....you'd have to buy 4 now.  It's not the same.

My point is that even before these new rules, the lunches were never very large for athletes. Hence the nickname Sandwiches that I acquired.

2012-09-25 9:36 AM
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I had to laugh when my son called me to complain about the new lunches. Instead of chicken fingers, fries, and soda they are forced to eat - gasp - fruit!

So is the issue that there is not enough calories in the meals or that they are no longer junk calories?

With childhood obesity at record levels I'm kind of in favor of the new meals.

2012-09-25 9:37 AM
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JoshR - 2012-09-25 9:35 AM

Left Brain - 2012-09-25 8:32 AM
JoshR - 2012-09-25 9:27 AM

Hmmm, I call BS. The school lunches were never very big to begin with. I was a very competitive swimmer in high school You know what I had to do to eat enough? I brought 4 sandwiches for a snack between breakfast and lunch. Then I'd order 2 lunches.

 

ETA: "One thing I think we need to keep in mind as kids say they're still hungry is that many children aren't used to eating fruits and vegetables at home, much less at school. So it's a change in what they are eating. If they are still hungry, it's that they are not eating all the food that's being offered," USDA Deputy Undersecretary Janey Thornton was quoted as saying.

Seems like it's their own fault as well.

That's not true for kids who are fit......my kids eat bowls of raw fruit and vegetables at home....they wouldn't eat fast food if you put it in front of them....they hate it. 

I get your point about buying two lunches.....you'd have to buy 4 now.  It's not the same.

My point is that even before these new rules, the lunches were never very large for athletes. Hence the nickname Sandwiches that I acquired.



That's exactly what I'm saying! The school lunches were like a burrito that was smaller than anything you'd get from Taco Bell and a hamburger that was smaller than a McDonalds burger. Even the bigger lunches weren't adequate. So we brought food from home. If the excuse is that the parents and students don't have time to throw a loaf of bread and some cold cuts into their backpack on the way out of the house, I'm not buying it.
2012-09-25 9:37 AM
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I was just having this conversation with a friend. What I ate in HS was scary with three hours of pool time a day. When they make sports drinks illegal what are the people who actually do sports going to do?


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mr2tony - 2012-09-25 7:34 AM
Left Brain - 2012-09-25 9:29 AM

You would not believe how much money my wife dumps into my kid's lunch accounts just so they can buy 2 or 3 meals because they are starving.  Like yours, my kids are athletes.....both in-school sports and then swimming after school sports....they'll eat a desk if food not available. 

Yeah, I realize that we can send them with lunches, and we did when they were in grade school, but it's less practical now with everything we have going on..

In short.....I agree with your post, tuwood......what passes for a "lunch" with this program is laughable for anyone who isn't obese.

I was going to say `Why don't they take food from home?' which is what we did in high school because the school lunches were NEVER big enough. But in this hectic day and age, it seems neither the parents nor the kids have time to throw together a couple sandwiches in the morning. Instead they'd rather just blame the schools for failing to provide for their children. What was that about a nanny state?

47% of the parents need to step up and make their kids lunches.

2012-09-25 9:37 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-09-25 9:34 AM

Left Brain - 2012-09-25 9:29 AM

You would not believe how much money my wife dumps into my kid's lunch accounts just so they can buy 2 or 3 meals because they are starving.  Like yours, my kids are athletes.....both in-school sports and then swimming after school sports....they'll eat a desk if food not available. 

Yeah, I realize that we can send them with lunches, and we did when they were in grade school, but it's less practical now with everything we have going on..

In short.....I agree with your post, tuwood......what passes for a "lunch" with this program is laughable for anyone who isn't obese.



I was going to say `Why don't they take food from home?' which is what we did in high school because the school lunches were NEVER big enough. But in this hectic day and age, it seems neither the parents nor the kids have time to throw together a couple sandwiches in the morning. Instead they'd rather just blame the schools for failing to provide for their children. What was that about a nanny state?


Took me 10 mins to pack Breakfast and lunch for today. Takes longer to drive to wherever and buy the food.

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mr2tony - 2012-09-25 9:34 AM
Left Brain - 2012-09-25 9:29 AM

You would not believe how much money my wife dumps into my kid's lunch accounts just so they can buy 2 or 3 meals because they are starving.  Like yours, my kids are athletes.....both in-school sports and then swimming after school sports....they'll eat a desk if food not available. 

Yeah, I realize that we can send them with lunches, and we did when they were in grade school, but it's less practical now with everything we have going on..

In short.....I agree with your post, tuwood......what passes for a "lunch" with this program is laughable for anyone who isn't obese.

I was going to say `Why don't they take food from home?' which is what we did in high school because the school lunches were NEVER big enough. But in this hectic day and age, it seems neither the parents nor the kids have time to throw together a couple sandwiches in the morning. Instead they'd rather just blame the schools for failing to provide for their children. What was that about a nanny state?

My son is up for swimming at 4:30 am 3 days a week.....we're not making sandwiches....he takes BREAKFAST to school.  I don't need anything from the "nanny state"....and I sure don't need anyone to tell me how my kid needs to eat.

2012-09-25 9:40 AM
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A Tuwood anti Obama thread; what a surprise.
2012-09-25 9:40 AM
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Left Brain - 2012-09-25 7:38 AM
mr2tony - 2012-09-25 9:34 AM
Left Brain - 2012-09-25 9:29 AM

You would not believe how much money my wife dumps into my kid's lunch accounts just so they can buy 2 or 3 meals because they are starving.  Like yours, my kids are athletes.....both in-school sports and then swimming after school sports....they'll eat a desk if food not available. 

Yeah, I realize that we can send them with lunches, and we did when they were in grade school, but it's less practical now with everything we have going on..

In short.....I agree with your post, tuwood......what passes for a "lunch" with this program is laughable for anyone who isn't obese.

I was going to say `Why don't they take food from home?' which is what we did in high school because the school lunches were NEVER big enough. But in this hectic day and age, it seems neither the parents nor the kids have time to throw together a couple sandwiches in the morning. Instead they'd rather just blame the schools for failing to provide for their children. What was that about a nanny state?

My son is up for swimming at 4:30 am 3 days a week.....we're not making sandwiches....he takes BREAKFAST to school.  I don't need anything from the "nanny state"....and I sure don't need anyone to tell me how my kid needs to eat.

Ok so he makes his own lunch? I mean that is what you are saying right so it shouldn’t matter what the school is serving for lunch.

 



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running2far - 2012-09-25 7:37 AM
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Left Brain - 2012-09-25 9:29 AM

You would not believe how much money my wife dumps into my kid's lunch accounts just so they can buy 2 or 3 meals because they are starving.  Like yours, my kids are athletes.....both in-school sports and then swimming after school sports....they'll eat a desk if food not available. 

Yeah, I realize that we can send them with lunches, and we did when they were in grade school, but it's less practical now with everything we have going on..

In short.....I agree with your post, tuwood......what passes for a "lunch" with this program is laughable for anyone who isn't obese.

I was going to say `Why don't they take food from home?' which is what we did in high school because the school lunches were NEVER big enough. But in this hectic day and age, it seems neither the parents nor the kids have time to throw together a couple sandwiches in the morning. Instead they'd rather just blame the schools for failing to provide for their children. What was that about a nanny state?
Took me 10 mins to pack Breakfast and lunch for today. Takes longer to drive to wherever and buy the food.

Thats just crazy talk.

2012-09-25 9:45 AM
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With our kids' high school it was a buffet style lunch before.  They could grab 4 sandwiches 3 milks a salad, and 2 desserts if they wanted to.  They definitely got full and even bragged about how awesome their cafeteria was.

Now they restrict portions and the foods they provide are all "nutritious", as in taste like garbage (to quote my son).  They also removed all sugary drinks including juices and gatorades out of the vending machines so there's only weird diet tea's and other things that no students drink.

There's certainly an argument to be made that the lunches are healthier and they most certainly are.  But to not take into account high school student athletes that literally need about 4000+ calories a day is where my complaint is.

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Big Appa - 2012-09-25 9:40 AM

Left Brain - 2012-09-25 7:38 AM
mr2tony - 2012-09-25 9:34 AM
Left Brain - 2012-09-25 9:29 AM

You would not believe how much money my wife dumps into my kid's lunch accounts just so they can buy 2 or 3 meals because they are starving.  Like yours, my kids are athletes.....both in-school sports and then swimming after school sports....they'll eat a desk if food not available. 

Yeah, I realize that we can send them with lunches, and we did when they were in grade school, but it's less practical now with everything we have going on..

In short.....I agree with your post, tuwood......what passes for a "lunch" with this program is laughable for anyone who isn't obese.

I was going to say `Why don't they take food from home?' which is what we did in high school because the school lunches were NEVER big enough. But in this hectic day and age, it seems neither the parents nor the kids have time to throw together a couple sandwiches in the morning. Instead they'd rather just blame the schools for failing to provide for their children. What was that about a nanny state?

My son is up for swimming at 4:30 am 3 days a week.....we're not making sandwiches....he takes BREAKFAST to school.  I don't need anything from the "nanny state"....and I sure don't need anyone to tell me how my kid needs to eat.

Ok so he makes his own lunch? I mean that is what you are saying right so it shouldn’t matter what the school is serving for lunch.

 



My 6 year old gets all of her stuff out of the pantry and fridge in the morning......while she puts her waffle in the toaster and grabs a banana or strawberries for breakfast. I make her sammich for her......

C'mon Appa....you can't expect a kid to make thier own lunches or do it the night before. What are you thinking....
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Left Brain - 2012-09-25 9:38 AM
mr2tony - 2012-09-25 9:34 AM
Left Brain - 2012-09-25 9:29 AM

You would not believe how much money my wife dumps into my kid's lunch accounts just so they can buy 2 or 3 meals because they are starving.  Like yours, my kids are athletes.....both in-school sports and then swimming after school sports....they'll eat a desk if food not available. 

Yeah, I realize that we can send them with lunches, and we did when they were in grade school, but it's less practical now with everything we have going on..

In short.....I agree with your post, tuwood......what passes for a "lunch" with this program is laughable for anyone who isn't obese.

I was going to say `Why don't they take food from home?' which is what we did in high school because the school lunches were NEVER big enough. But in this hectic day and age, it seems neither the parents nor the kids have time to throw together a couple sandwiches in the morning. Instead they'd rather just blame the schools for failing to provide for their children. What was that about a nanny state?

My son is up for swimming at 4:30 am 3 days a week.....we're not making sandwiches....he takes BREAKFAST to school.  I don't need anything from the "nanny state"....and I sure don't need anyone to tell me how my kid needs to eat.

If people don't want Mrs. Obama "telling" their kid what to eat, why don't they send him enough food to get him through the day? Complaining about the new menu but refusing to make accommodations for the child (when obviously they have the means) seems like a very fruitless exercise.

I dunno, as a child with severe dietary restrictions, I learned very early on that I had to bring my own food every day or be hungry or be sick. I never expected anyone to make accommodations for my situation. And check this out - I even had to PLAN and pack my lunch(es) the night before! Maybe times have changed.

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mrbbrad - 2012-09-25 9:40 AM A Tuwood anti Obama thread; what a surprise.

lol, i tried to tone it down a little.  My original subject was "Obama losing the youth vote"  



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tuwood - 2012-09-25 10:45 AM

With our kids' high school it was a buffet style lunch before.  They could grab 4 sandwiches 3 milks a salad, and 2 desserts if they wanted to.  They definitely got full and even bragged about how awesome their cafeteria was.

Now they restrict portions and the foods they provide are all "nutritious", as in taste like garbage (to quote my son).  They also removed all sugary drinks including juices and gatorades out of the vending machines so there's only weird diet tea's and other things that no students drink.

There's certainly an argument to be made that the lunches are healthier and they most certainly are.  But to not take into account high school student athletes that literally need about 4000+ calories a day is where my complaint is.

Pack PB&J, lot of calories and doesn't need refrigeration. My youngest eats at least one every day. He doesn't do sports at school, but he does MMA 4x a week and is always hungry.

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tuwood - 2012-09-25 7:45 AM

With our kids' high school it was a buffet style lunch before.  They could grab 4 sandwiches 3 milks a salad, and 2 desserts if they wanted to.  They definitely got full and even bragged about how awesome their cafeteria was.

Now they restrict portions and the foods they provide are all "nutritious", as in taste like garbage (to quote my son).  They also removed all sugary drinks including juices and gatorades out of the vending machines so there's only weird diet tea's and other things that no students drink.

There's certainly an argument to be made that the lunches are healthier and they most certainly are.  But to not take into account high school student athletes that literally need about 4000+ calories a day is where my complaint is.

 So the solution would be to bring his own lunch/snacks wouldn't it and it would be a lot cheaper also.

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Big Appa - 2012-09-25 9:40 AM
Left Brain - 2012-09-25 7:38 AM
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Left Brain - 2012-09-25 9:29 AM

You would not believe how much money my wife dumps into my kid's lunch accounts just so they can buy 2 or 3 meals because they are starving.  Like yours, my kids are athletes.....both in-school sports and then swimming after school sports....they'll eat a desk if food not available. 

Yeah, I realize that we can send them with lunches, and we did when they were in grade school, but it's less practical now with everything we have going on..

In short.....I agree with your post, tuwood......what passes for a "lunch" with this program is laughable for anyone who isn't obese.

I was going to say `Why don't they take food from home?' which is what we did in high school because the school lunches were NEVER big enough. But in this hectic day and age, it seems neither the parents nor the kids have time to throw together a couple sandwiches in the morning. Instead they'd rather just blame the schools for failing to provide for their children. What was that about a nanny state?

My son is up for swimming at 4:30 am 3 days a week.....we're not making sandwiches....he takes BREAKFAST to school.  I don't need anything from the "nanny state"....and I sure don't need anyone to tell me how my kid needs to eat.

Ok so he makes his own lunch? I mean that is what you are saying right so it shouldn’t matter what the school is serving for lunch. 

What?  He makes his own breakfast and takes it to eat between swimming and school....he eats a school lunch and brings his own snack for before XC practice.  Where did I say he makes his own lunch?

And yeah....for whoever posted about their 6 year old...I already said our kids took their lunches in grade school.....we're busy enough now that having someone else make their lunch saves us some time and convenience....small as it is.

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Left Brain - 2012-09-25 7:50 AM

What?  He makes his own breakfast and takes it to eat between swimming and school....he eats a school lunch and brings his own snack for before XC practice.  Where did I say he makes his own lunch?

And yeah....for whoever posted about their 6 year old...I already said our kids took their lunches in grade school.....we're busy enough now that having someone else make their lunch saves us some time and convenience....small as it is.

I love liberals!!!  Laughing

 

So why doesn't he also make his own lunch? It seems like a very straight forward problem and solution where we can take care of ourselves.

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