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2009-07-09 1:42 PM

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Subject: Sprint to Ironman
For those of you who have done ironmans, how long did you take from your first tri (I'm assuming sprint, but maybe oly) until you attempted a full ironman?  And how many tris did you do in that time



The more I read on here, the more I want to push myself (hence why I signed up for a tri in the first place).  My best is running, and my longest run so far is only 10 miles, but I'm thinking like 5 years or so, I may get up to finishing one :-p


2009-07-09 1:46 PM
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It all depends on your fitness level.  But my tri coach gave me the advice for progression.  First year - sprint, second year - olympic, third year - HIM, fourth year IM.  Of course, it all varies from athlete to athlete, but just some insight non the less.  I have read so many people get hook on the idea of IM distances races too early in there careers, get worn out, and leave the sport completely.
2009-07-09 1:50 PM
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Build up gradually.  There is no reason to rush.  And one of the typical things that newer athletes do is to rush.  Then they have less enjoyment.

If you take your time and increase training levels and distances accordingly, you'll have less of a risk of injury and/ore burn out.  And I'd also say you will more than lokely enjoy the sport a lot more.

And if it just a "bucket list" item ...... I would recommend you really consider why it is you would want to do it.  Not saying that it is!!  But if that is one's motivation, then think more on it.
2009-07-09 1:51 PM
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rbtrumpet - 2009-07-09 2:42 PM
The more I read on here, the more I want to push myself (hence why I signed up for a tri in the first place). 


You do realize you can "push" yourself by going faster as well as longer, right?  There's a huge mythology around IM that makes it attractive to many people.  But it takes just as much to go fast over shorter distances.  And you get to learn what it means to "hurt" on a more regular basis than training for IM.  There's much value in that if you ultimately decide to pursue IM.

Not saying you shouldn't give IM a try if you want to do so.  Just don't buy into the hype because "everyone else" is doing it.

Of course, I went 3 years from my first sprint to my first IM. 
2009-07-09 1:52 PM
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well, for me, I think it's something I'd like to do "in the next 5-10 years"

I was just wondering for other people how long it took you to build up from a sprint to a full ironman
2009-07-09 1:53 PM
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It was six years before I felt my body was ready to attempt my first IM, which I will be doing this year.

In that time, I did probably 5 or six races per year, including 3 HIM's over the last two years. I gradually improved my fitness and times and stepped up training volume year after year. I think that I stayed very in-tune with my body and knew I wasn't ready until this year.




2009-07-09 1:57 PM
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To answer your question, I went from first marathon completion in fall of '05 to starting my training for an IM.  I signed up for a HIM for '06 (as my first tri in 14 years).  Followed by my another two fall marathons.  Then signed up for IMFL for '07.  In '07 I did a sprint, ran Boston, a HIM, an oly., an iron distance aqua velo, another marathon and then my IM.

So I took 2 years to get there.  But I also raced road bikes for years and had run 5 marathons before attempting my IM.
2009-07-09 1:59 PM
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Well, I am an exception, or just stupid.  Back in 2007, I did my first marathon, my first triathlon which was a HIM, and first IM during the same year, after training for a few months with an avg. of 6 hours a week (quite pathetic).

I ran the marathon in May, did the HIM in July, and IM Moo (WI) in Sept.  I can only think that what I had going for me is being in decent enough shape and always being active, with a strong desire.

2009-07-09 2:03 PM
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1stTimeTri - 2009-07-09 1:59 PM

Well, I am an exception, or just stupid.  Back in 2007, I did my first marathon, my first triathlon which was a HIM, and first IM during the same year, after training for a few months with an avg. of 6 hours a week (quite pathetic).

I ran the marathon in May, did the HIM in July, and IM Moo (WI) in Sept.  I can only think that what I had going for me is being in decent enough shape and always being active, with a strong desire.




Phil, I love you, man. But how you did that IM on that amount of training will forever remain one of the great mysteries of the universe to me. I think you are an exception to the rule.


2009-07-09 2:06 PM
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1stTimeTri - 2009-07-09 1:59 PM

Well, I am an exception, or just stupid.  Back in 2007, I did my first marathon, my first triathlon which was a HIM, and first IM during the same year, after training for a few months with an avg. of 6 hours a week (quite pathetic).

I ran the marathon in May, did the HIM in July, and IM Moo (WI) in Sept.  I can only think that what I had going for me is being in decent enough shape and always being active, with a strong desire.

Phil, I love you, man. But how you did that IM on that amount of training will forever remain one of the great mysteries of the universe to me. I think you are an exception to the rule.

Appreciate that, Rich!  I love you, too!

[hijack on] BTW - I'm plugging Rich's movie "The Distance".  CHECK IT OUT, PEEPS! [/hijack off]

2009-07-09 2:07 PM
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I just think it's funny you say you want to push yourself and your timeline is fiver years!  Most people say "Oh I've just signed up for my first sprintin May, and want to do an IM in October!"

5 years is plenty of time, and quite smart (IMO).  I went 4 years, starting with sprints and every year going longer 


2009-07-09 2:08 PM
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I'm on the path of sprint/oly year one, HIM year 2, IM year 3.

Not to give you any crazy ideas, but I personally know 2 people who went from casual training/fitness, to IM in one year. One guy did IM cda and the other guy I think did florida. One guy said it was "the most stupid and crazy thing" he's ever done and now does sprints and olys. The other guy has now done 5 other IM's and loves the long race lifestyle.
2009-07-09 2:09 PM
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for me first sprint was in sept 1996 and my first iron distance will be (hopefully) sept 2009
about a dozen sprints, 3-4 olys, 3 half and 3 marathons in between
2009-07-09 2:15 PM
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well, ive never done an IM.  never done anything over a sprint.  but i'm gonna chime in.

i dont understand the rush, really.  well, I actually kinda go.

I honestly feel there is a degree of pressure for triathletes to do Ironmans. 

peolpe who dont know that much about the sport, assume you are not a triathlete unless you do one.  those who have done them have a perception of greater acheivement over those that have not. 

I agree with jonnykay on this one...

you can push yourself to your limits and beyond in a sprint.  you can train 10-12 hours per week with nothing on the schedule all season but sprints and still not hit your maximum potential and continue to push yourself.

it comes back to why you want to do an Ironman.   If it is because you truly want to push your limits, your years away.  at least 3, most likely 4-5.  I dont think an average human can come close to pushing their limits in an IM distance race before than.  it could take several years to push your limits in a sprint.

for me, whats the rush.  I want to do one and God willing will do one.  when ready. 

edit:  didnt even see the part wher eyou mentioned 5 years away.  wow--your plan is ideal, IMO....I just assume you meant next year or something....



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2009-07-09 2:17 PM
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First sprint was August of 05.  Had run one mary before but no real bike or swim experience other than that gained since I started training that May.  06 was two sprint, my first HIM that Sept, sign up for MOO the day after, and a mary.  Think I did another sprint, a HIM and an oly in 07 within the training program.

2009-07-09 2:23 PM
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ChrisM - 2009-07-09 3:07 PM I just think it's funny you say you want to push yourself and your timeline is fiver years!  Most people say "Oh I've just signed up for my first sprintin May, and want to do an IM in October!"

5 years is plenty of time, and quite smart (IMO).  I went 4 years, starting with sprints and every year going longer 



trust me - 5 years WILL be pushing myself.  I'm a complete slacker and couch potato!  I spent 24 years of my life being fat and lazy. 

I just started running 2.5 years ago.  I still remember my first run.  I did 0.5 miles, and walked part of it - took me almost 30 min!  (since then I have now down 4, 10-milers, and can comfortably run 6-7 miles with no walking breaks - I still like to take at least one when I go farther).

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2009-07-09 2:45 PM
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I think there were a handful of people at IMCdA who did that as their first triathlon. 

IM is about patience, training, patience, being in-tune with your body, and patience.  People who have good IM races have trained patiently (avoiding injury), understand race-day nutrition, and are disciplined enough to follow their race plan which is usually to hold back in the first half of the day when they think they could be going faster. 

My progression was: 
05:  2 sprints (one 5K)
06:  Sprint, OLY, sprint, HIM (several 5K's and a 15K)
07:  OLY
08:  No races I did a 2-week backpacking trip
09:  IMCdA  (50-mile ultra)

Progression versus no-progression?  I've heard people tout the sprint > OLY > HIM > IM as well as the 5K > 10K > 13.1 > 26.2.  Personally, if you're a "go fast" kind of person, have fun with sprints and running 16-minute 5K's.  If you're a "go long" kind of person, there is no reason to spend a season or two running 5K's (ie "paying your dues" ) before doing a marathon.  Either way, be smart about training, recovery, and racing. 

2009-07-09 2:49 PM
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First race of any kind was a 1/2 mary, May 2007. First tri was June 2007. First IM was Nov 2008. 3 tris my first year, 5 the second including the IM.

I don't feel that I rushed it, or that I didn't enjoy it because I didn't wait. It's something that I always wanted to do, even before I started doing tris. I didn't know there were tris other than the Hawaii IM and as soon as I found out, I registered.

I'm sure if I waited 5 years I would have gone faster, but that doesn't mean I can't do another one in 4 years.

2009-07-09 5:17 PM
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May 07, first 10k race after getting off the couch being completely inactive.
June 07, first try-it super sprint
Summer 07, 3 sprints

April 08, first half marathon,
June 08 - super sprint
Summer 08 sprint, 2 olympics, another half marathon

April 09, 3rd half marathon
May 09 - super sprint
June 09 - IM France


No regrets in skipping the HIM year, nor skipping the stand alone marathon. I might never do a marry, or maybe I will. I'm looking forward to one or two HIMs next year along with a few Olympics. I am already planning my next IM in 2-3 years.

To me it's like track running - 100m dash or the 5K run are both equal value events that require training. Doing an IM or doing an Oly doesn't matter, it's just with the IM you have a greater minimum training you can get away with. My legs hurt far more after the HM than the IM.

Life is short. If you have the time to commit to IM now, and you want to do one, there's no mystical reason to wait. You might not get another chance.
2009-07-10 5:24 AM
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April 2008 was my first sprint.  By September 2008, I did 4 sprints and 1 Oly.

This year I've done 2 sprints and 1 Oly so far.  I have my first HIM scheduled for August, and 1 Oly and 1 sprint for September.

My coach is encouraging me to set the goal of IMFL 2010, but I want to see how the half goes this year before I commit.  If that happens, I will have 3 full seasons of training under my belt by the time I do my first IM.

2009-07-10 1:07 PM
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I admit I have not done an IM, and am still relatively new to triathlon, but I agree that it's about your individual fitness and commitment going in.  I did my first race this year (oly) more or less as training and experience for my second (HIM).  However, I was not new to endurance sports.  I'd already completed 7 marathons and multiple halves starting in 2006, before I even got the idea of doing a tri.  I trained hard and finished my HIM healthy and happy with a time of 6:46:26.  Certainly not fast, but I got out of it what I wanted, which is what mattered to me.  I'm considering an IM in 2010.  Because I'm not fast, I do like the challenge, mentally and physically, of sticking to a long distance training plan and executing it. 


2009-07-10 1:40 PM
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4.5 years from first tri (which was a Half Ironman) to Ironman.

So I believe that right there tells you that there are WAY too many factors to give a good answer to that question.
2009-07-10 1:44 PM
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I did my first tri (sprint) in 2005; I did my first IM in 2008. Prior to IM, I had done five sprints, 1 Oly tri, 1 Oly du, 1 sprint du, one HIM, one 5K.

2009-07-10 1:59 PM
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Did my first triathlon (a sprint) in 2004. Did 3 sprints in 2005, 3 sprints and 2 olys in 2006, 6 sprints, 3 olys, an HIM and the bike leg of an oly relay in 2007, 3 sprints, 1 HIM, and 1 oly in 2008 and so far this year, 1 HIM and 1 IM. Still hoping to do at least 1 sprint and an oly before the end of this season.

I was going to wait until next year to do the full IM, but 2009 seemed to be a better year for me, family-wise. Lots less things going on with my children this year vs. next year.

The biggest factors in my decision to do IMCdA were my family and how much time I had available for training. You've got to look at the big picture because if you do have a family and a job, all that training takes its toll and EVERYONE you are involved with (including yourself) has to make sacrifices. Ironman was an incredibly rewarding experience for me, but definitely not something to be entered into lightly.

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2009-07-10 3:32 PM
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I haven't done an IM yet. But I'm planning to and I'm thinking about doing it next year or the year after.

My progression so far is:

Last year at this time I hadn't exercised in several years and was morbidly obese.
Did my first (sprint) tri in April of this year (down 90 lb by now, working out 5 days a week)
Did my first Oly 3 weeks later
Now I'm training for a HIM in Oct. (down 110 lb. overall as of today, 8-10 workouts a week).

I know the conventional wisdom is to not move up more than one level in a season, but I've been making great progress and it's clear now that I could have started with the Olympic distance this season, if I had wanted to.

I plan to do more HIMs next year and I'm toying with ending the season with an IM. There are two things that I think could prevent me... the running (not my forte) and not having enough time to train (I am looking to change jobs soon and that could change everything).

Doing an IM in my second or third season is not about rushing, really. It's about doing what I love and what motivates me -- I love conquering distance and I love pushing myself beyond where I think I can go. When I get to the point where a certain race or distance no longer scares me, I know it's time to move up to the next level because I've gotten too comfortable.

When I did my first Sprint tri, I didn't feel at the end like I expected to feel. In some ways, it was too easy, because I was already doing more than those distances regularly in my training. So I signed up for the Oly and that's when I felt more like what I expected to feel after doing a tri. (i.e. like I'd pushed myself to the very limit of my ability). I'm now at a point where the Oly distances feel in training like the Sprint distances felt right before I did one so it's time to step it up a notch and go for the HIM.

After that, we'll see. I know want to do an IM "some day" and I don't take the future for granted. There was a point in my life where I couldn't bend down to tie my shoes, let alone do triathlons, and I am realistic enough to know that that point could come again. (I could get sick or injured or have my life change so I can't train enough.)

So I feel like I should do the IM *now* while I can and not worry about conventional wisdom and what other people do. I'm going to decide after my HIM if I think I can be ready in time.
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