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Just like the Ironman thread...we have a number of local athletes who completed their first half-ironman (70.3) race this seasons.  And we have dozens more eyeing the distance for next year. 

Let's generate some discussion on the lessons learned from the athletes as well as a local forum for those who with to compete in the distance to ask questions on race strategy, nutrition, race selection, etc.  



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My only HIM experience was the bike leg of SC HIM in September as part of a relay team. 

I had a really positive experience with that race and recommend it to others.  The one negative is that the roads suck. 

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jonathan22 - 2007-11-15 9:43 AM

The one negative is that the roads suck. 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the roads around Greenwood State Park suck.

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Jonathan,
Thanks for being the first to reply. Did your training for the race involve speed, endurance, or both? And what was the longest ride you completed prior to the race?
My first HIM is in May and I'm trying to get a game plan down before Jan/Feb. I've got books that lay down a 12 week plan but I'd appreciate some "real" advice from other triathletes' experience.

Andrew, Great Thread! My 70.3 has been on my mind alot, so the posts here should be good for me to read.

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I'll jump in on this one for a moment...

To me the biggest difference between a HIM and Oly or Sprint is nutrition, nutrition, nutrition.  In my first HIM, I had no real concept of this outside of just eating something on the bike.  I didn't think about run nutrition.  And I broke down at mile 10, trying to prevent a complete bonk.  The second time around I had tinkered with the nutrition plan a bit and nearly nailed it (still needed more calories).  I felt strong the entire time. 

During my first 2 seasons, I did very little speed/endurance/tempo training sessions (#1 goal for this season).  I was too concerned with finishing the distance.  For my first HIM, my longest ride was 70-75 miles.  Leading up to the event, I made sure I was comfortable with 60+.  However, it was at the end of the season so there was a huge base.  For a May race (and in general) I think I was up to about 80 miles prior to the race. 

 

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kuotaguy - 2007-11-15 9:53 AM Jonathan, Thanks for being the first to reply. Did your training for the race involve speed, endurance, or both? And what was the longest ride you completed prior to the race? My first HIM is in May and I'm trying to get a game plan down before Jan/Feb. I've got books that lay down a 12 week plan but I'd appreciate some "real" advice from other triathletes' experience. Andrew, Great Thread! My 70.3 has been on my mind alot, so the posts here should be good for me to read.

In no particular order:

  1. This was my first year of triathlons. 
  2. The only portion of the HIM I did was the bike.  I was able to haul for the entire time without regarding to having to run off the bike.  Big difference.
  3. I had done 2 centuries and many, many rides in the 50 mile range in the summer leading up to the SC HIM.  So I never really prepared specifically for the bike leg.  I did do two 60 mile rides in the two weeks leading up to the race (again, I was just doing the bike).  The first was a moderatly hard ride and the second was as hard as I could go for 3 hours.  Prior to that, all long rides where done in zone 2.
  4. I was training for the Chicago marathon during the same time and that was my primar focus.

I think the last question requires a brief year in review:

  1. 1st tri was a sprint in May.  I followed the BT Oly plan (16 weeks I think) targeting an International distance tri the next month. 
  2. After the Int tri in June, I restarted the BT Oly plan.  This got me through another Oly(Chattanooga) in July. 
  3. Around the same time, I started my marathon ramp up for Chicago (Oct). I also scaled back my swimming since the only tri I had left was a sprint in Sept (and swimming, although I have no background in swimming) was my strongest event. 
  4. I was dissapointed with my results from the July race and I didn't feel like the BT Oly plan plus a Hal Higdon marathon plan would get me where I wanted.  So in late August I got a coach (Brett Daniels).  Brett didn't fundementally change much but gave me some focus on training toward A races (marathon) vs B races (PTC Sprint in Sept) vs. C race (SC HIM bike leg)

The best 2 peices of advice I ever got was to 1) get a coach and 2) know your HR zones.

On point one, if you only have a few races per year, an online plan or plan from a book would work fine.  However, I am doing different types of races about once a month of different distances and Brett is an objective 3rd party that can hep guide me.  For example, the Chicago marathon was a disaster.  Had it been left up me, I would have been running the next day.  As it stands, he had me take 2 weeks off and that was the right thing to do.

I did a bike LT test in the early spring and used those zones for most of the summer.  They were 10 beats too low (no wonder my bike split sucked at Chattanooga - I had been way undertrained on the bike going into that race).  My run LT was done off of a late spring 10K and I felt those where about right. Brett had me do a bike LT test and they are now set. 



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Great topic idea Dollar!  I am FAR from knowing all there is about the IM and HIM distance, but I've learned a lot here and hope I can help others!

My first HIM was South Carolina this past September(second season of tri's).  I started training for the 2007 season in Feb/March after a 4-5 month layoff because of a back injury.  I was able to ride during my injury, but not too much swimming and no running.  Back in February, I had plans to do my first few olympics, lots of sprints, the SC HIM relay (bike) and my first half marathon at the Atlanta Half.  Sometime during August, my HIM relay dissolved and I decided to do the full HIM.  To prepare, I started doing long rides (50+) pretty much every weekend, most of my swims were around 3000 yds and I did 4 to 6- 10-13 mile runs before race day.  I'll add that most of my long runs kinda sucked- I'm not a runner.  Come race day, I found myself not too nervous and feeling like I could actually finish.  Swim went well except for getting off-course several times, bike felt awesome and I was above my goal pace and run pretty much rocked(for me, a non-runner, at least).  So overall, I felt prepared and am now more confident about this distance.

Things I learned:
1) Train, train and train some more this winter.  The miles(outside, not the trainer) I spent on the bike last winter really helped my 2007 season overall.
2) Find a good training group that is doing your race, if possible.  SC HIM is getting late in the season and motivation from my training partners really helped when we began to feel the late-season burnout.
3) Don't stress if you don't/can't hire a coach.  As much as I'd love one, I used BT training plans(Oly plan at first, then I used the HIM plan when I decided to do the full HIM, then I used a half marathon plan for all my runs.)  and I felt well prepared. You do have to be willing to learn and do your own research on your own....BT plans do not spoon feed you.  For the bike, I mainly did endurance workouts and did speed and endurance for the run.   I grew up swimming competitively, so I didn't focus on much more than distance  in training.
4) Think ahead about nutrition!!!  I set up a spreadsheet about 6 weeks before the race.  Then left it alone.  A few weeks out I revisited my nutrition plan and simplified it realizing I couldn't carry 4 Uncrustables on the bike- duh.  I did kinda practice it in training, but I also only used items that I'd trained with so it wasn't ever a problem- except for #5 below.
5) About 3/4-way through the run, I started getting really grossed out by Gu and Accelerade.  It wasn't a big deal and I wasn't feeling sick, but I didn't want it anymore.  I just tried to grab items at the aid stations to stay fueled.  Overall, this wasn't really an issue at this race, but it could be during an IM race.  My point: even if you're fine with certain gels/liquid nutrition/etc most times, it doesn't hurt to throw a little something different into our fuel belt...just to mix it up.
6) If possible, pick a race that you know others are doing.  Seeing people I knew during the run at SC was HUGE for me.  I know it's not always possible, but that really kept me going.
7) If you do a late season HIM, consider starting your season a little later OR take a short break mid-season.  April(St. Anthony's) to end of September(SC HIM) was a long season for me and the others I trained with.  We were pretty much just ready for 'it' to be over.

As for race strategy, mine was to finish the run.  Running is my weakest leg and I'd never run a stand alone half marathon before.  I did set goals for each part of the HIM, but really I just wanted a solid race and to finish having enjoyed the experience- and I did!

Picking the race- I did it because evreyone else was.  I'm a follower like that.  I didn't really stress about the supposed crappy roads in the area...if it was that bad, would they have races there?
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2007 was my first real tri season.  I got a coach in Nov '06 to train specifically for 1/2 Vineman in August '07, which helped tremendously since I also did sprints and OLYs leading up to Vineman. 

The 2 big HIM training lessons for me: (1) consistancy; and (2) don't go in with low run mileage.  Consistancy was key for me building those base miles, but I slacked off with the running towards the middle/end of summer, which made Vineman a sufferfest after mile 5.  Lesson learned.

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My input on my first:

1 Move Up The Food Chain - It was very helpful to knock off a few Sprints then use an OLY as a brick. In the OLY, play with pace, calories, etc. Do not do much tapering for it. It took the mystery out of the distance and built confidence.
2 Run, run run - The HIM is much easier if you have a good run endurance base. Be smart, build slowly, but stay focused on building the long run and getting comfortable at 13 miles.
3 The Key Is The Bike - If you can get off the bike with a good time and fresh, you can deal with the run even if you do not have the best run endurance. I will do more rides over 75 miles for the next one.
4 Figure Out the Food Thing - I played with foods that work for me. I can't eat a bananna during a run. It makes me sick every time. Yes, it destroyed a few run workouts, but it did not ruin a race!
5 Stay on your plan and rest even when you think you do not need it.
6 Don't forget about family and friends. Losing balance can make the journey much less enjoyable. Get a full buy in from wife or husband before making a commitment to the HIM.
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A couple of things I can think of.

1. Brick workouts were key for my training.
2. Being prepared for nutrition/hydration. My first race I trained with what I was going to use on the course and nailed my nutrition. With my second race, I made the big mistake of not worring about nutrition, since I had already figured out what worked for me. Since I didn't practise my stomach wasn't used to the sugar intake. I had trouble getting anything down, making for a miserable race.
3. Electrolites- I don't sweat much, but during the longer races it adds up and I take either take electrolite supplements or make sure I have plenty of salty foods available to prevent cramping.
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 I did my first Half this year as well at SC. It is my second season of tris, and my first season of oly and HIM distance. Here is a little of what worked for me and helped me have a good race.

1. Find people to train with that are doing the same race. I cannot tell you how great it was to train with the namsc group for SC and Chattanooga this past year. It keeps you motivated and also gives you great insight to what other people are doing with thier training, and how you can improve.

2. I increased my run base over the winter by doing a couple of half marathons, then sharply switched focus to the bike in the spring. A couple of centuries later and lots of long weekend rides, I had a lot of confidence with 56 miles on the bike and 13.1 on the run

3. Bricks and practicing nutrition. this will make or break your race. I suggest experimenting with it on long workouts. I found out that I cannot do gatorade on long hot conditions, and it never bothered me on sprint and OLY distances.

4. Get in your long workouts. These are a priority. you should have a long run, ride and swim pretty much every week, and these are the most important workouts.

5. Don't neglect your family or job, and have fun.

 



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Though it is stressed in a number of people's comments, I strongly advise anyone at the HIM or IM distance have a solid training plan.  Many of us are in shape enough to compete in a sprint or even an Oly.  However, the HIM is a different beast all together.  For me, I have used the BT plans that are available for both my HIMs and my IM.  I was pleased with the structure and the results. 

 

 

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Dollar is spot on when talking about nutrition, nutrition, nutrition!  It makes all the difference when you get to the run!

Ditto on the training plan.  As an alternative to BT's HIM plan, Gail Bernhart's book "Training Plans for Multisport Athletes" has 2-3 different HIM plans use can use based on how much time you have to train. 

After Gulf Coast, I decided to run a minimum 15 minutes after EVERY bike.  Doing that helped me shave 22 minutes off my Duke HIM run time which was a very hilly course.

One other thing I plan on doing for GCT 08 is do more hill work.  This year I decided to train flat since GCT is flat.  But I have found that I see more improvement on flat courses by doing hill work.

 

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craignmcd - 2007-11-16 4:04 PM

After Gulf Coast, I decided to run a minimum 15 minutes after EVERY bike. Doing that helped me shave 22 minutes off my Duke HIM run time which was a very hilly course.

One other thing I plan on doing for GCT 08 is do more hill work. This year I decided to train flat since GCT is flat. But I have found that I see more improvement on flat courses by doing hill work.



Great suggestions!

2007-11-18 7:16 PM
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These are awesome suggestions! I'm contemplating my '08 race season and after several sprints, am ready to move up to Oly & HIM next year. It's nice to get some feedback, especially from those that have recently completed their first of these distances.

Currently bike shopping and putting my plan together, so I'll take all the advice I can get!
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Hi,
My first post since joining BT. I just registered for the HIM in Orlando, FL in May 2008. I will also do an Olympic distance in Miami, FL on March 16, 2007. I am 32 years old, married, work full time, MBA part time at night.

Prior Tri sports experience:
- Did my first Tri last year in Sept (Peachtree Sprint Tri). I got hooked to the sport.
- Swam a lot when I was little. I stopped at 10 years of age. Technique is ok but could certainly improve. I plan on joining a Masters program in December or January
- Ran a lot when I was young. Played soccer in High School and first 2 years in college. I have not been running much in the last 12 years. Too much golf I guess.
- Brand new to road biking. I am hooked. I purchased a Fuji Aloha Tri bike.

Current training distances and plans:
- I will start the 20 week HIM plan on BT on December 31, 2007
- Currently doing about 30 to 40miles on the bike on Saturdays at Silver Comet Trail. I tried 50m for the first time this past weekend and my legs started to burn at mile 38. I need to begin putting more miles on the road. I try to squeeze a shorter 1 hr bike ride mid week when possible.
- Swimming 2 to 3 times a week about 1000 to 1500 meters each time. 20 to 30 minutes each time at the LA Fitness Pool in Akers Mill or Dunwoody.
- Running 1 or 2 a week. I did a 10K in September. I have been running 3 miles each time I get out in the last 3 weeks. I need to begin putting more miles on the run.

Great tips and advice on these posts. I would like to find out where you guys train for long open water swims, if you do any bike rides on the weekends, and if anyone is doing the Orlando HIM in May.

Regards,
Mario


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I cut 45 minutes off of my HIM time this year, compared to the one I did the year before.

How did I do it?

1. Way more training. I followed a plan that they had in Triathlete magazine (and really, most HIM plans are fairly standardized if you are an intermediate athlete or below) but the key was that I had a base built up from the year before, and then put in more time.

2. It's been said, but nutrition is a huge. I am a salty sweater and I didn't know that on my first HIM. I had horrible leg cramps and could barely finish the run. Training this year taught me what I need nutritionally.

3. Cycle classes at my gym. They go an hour, and they noticeably improved my speed and endurance. Yes, you can't replicate your bike geometry but for the non-pro, you can get a lot of fitness improvement from these classes. If you have a good instructor, they are way more fun than riding in the cold or working your trainer.

4. You have to have a good running base. It's hard to have enough time for everything, but I did a bunch (6-8) runs of 10+ miles and rarely ran for less than 6 miles when I went out. Plus, I always ran at least a mile after every ride, including after cycle class.

5. I love swimming, but once you get to a certain level of fitness, you're better off putting the time into biking and running.

6. Strive towards having fun in training and racing, and always keep a close eye on your life-training balance.
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I did a half (GCT) a bunch of years ago, and learned about the need for salt/electrolytes with some ugly cramping on the run. This year I started the Rock-n-Roll in Macon and quit a few miles into the run just because I was running too slow for my tastes and it sucked too. Well after reading plenty of other's race reports, I realized it is supposed to suck! Okay, at least to not be surprised to have points along the way where there is great suckage.
A month or so later I set up and did a personal "Triathlon of Pennance". It was good training, and I learned some useful lessons, even there, about pacing on the bike (staying in zone) and putting up with discomfort from heat during the run.
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Just getting back into tri training again after a year layoff from IM post pardom...

Did Vineman HIM in 2005 and sucked it up bad. Not enough run training and horrible in-race fueling.

Did IMFL in 2006 and had the race of a lifetime. Generally stuck to the training plan and fueled like a rock-star.

Finished the Vineman in agony, finished twice the distance at FL with a smile on my face. Train, Train, Train. Eat, Eat, Eat. Drink, Drink, Drink.

Signed up to back to get even with Vineman Half in July '08.

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The biggest thing that all you first timers (and even second timers) should take into account is consistancy in training. The HIM distance is still short enough for you to "fake it" although you are going to suffer something horrible. By being consistant and training smart the 70.3 distance is a piece of cake. It's also a distance you can race often as you don't need nearly as much recovery as compared to an IM or Marathon.
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With all the talk about SC HIM I thought I would bump this thread and invite people to add to the great advice.


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jonathan22 - 2007-11-15 11:01 AM

kuotaguy - 2007-11-15 9:53 AM Jonathan, Thanks for being the first to reply. Did your training for the race involve speed, endurance, or both? And what was the longest ride you completed prior to the race? My first HIM is in May and I'm trying to get a game plan down before Jan/Feb. I've got books that lay down a 12 week plan but I'd appreciate some "real" advice from other triathletes' experience. Andrew, Great Thread! My 70.3 has been on my mind alot, so the posts here should be good for me to read.

In no particular order:

  1. This was my first year of triathlons. 
  2. The only portion of the HIM I did was the bike.  I was able to haul for the entire time without regarding to having to run off the bike.  Big difference.
  3. I had done 2 centuries and many, many rides in the 50 mile range in the summer leading up to the SC HIM.  So I never really prepared specifically for the bike leg.  I did do two 60 mile rides in the two weeks leading up to the race (again, I was just doing the bike).  The first was a moderatly hard ride and the second was as hard as I could go for 3 hours.  Prior to that, all long rides where done in zone 2.
  4. I was training for the Chicago marathon during the same time and that was my primar focus.

I think the last question requires a brief year in review:

  1. 1st tri was a sprint in May.  I followed the BT Oly plan (16 weeks I think) targeting an International distance tri the next month. 
  2. After the Int tri in June, I restarted the BT Oly plan.  This got me through another Oly(Chattanooga) in July. 
  3. Around the same time, I started my marathon ramp up for Chicago (Oct). I also scaled back my swimming since the only tri I had left was a sprint in Sept (and swimming, although I have no background in swimming) was my strongest event. 
  4. I was dissapointed with my results from the July race and I didn't feel like the BT Oly plan plus a Hal Higdon marathon plan would get me where I wanted.  So in late August I got a coach (Brett Daniels).  Brett didn't fundementally change much but gave me some focus on training toward A races (marathon) vs B races (PTC Sprint in Sept) vs. C race (SC HIM bike leg)

The best 2 peices of advice I ever got was to 1) get a coach and 2) know your HR zones.

On point one, if you only have a few races per year, an online plan or plan from a book would work fine.  However, I am doing different types of races about once a month of different distances and Brett is an objective 3rd party that can hep guide me.  For example, the Chicago marathon was a disaster.  Had it been left up me, I would have been running the next day.  As it stands, he had me take 2 weeks off and that was the right thing to do.

I did a bike LT test in the early spring and used those zones for most of the summer.  They were 10 beats too low (no wonder my bike split sucked at Chattanooga - I had been way undertrained on the bike going into that race).  My run LT was done off of a late spring 10K and I felt those where about right. Brett had me do a bike LT test and they are now set. 

I can't help but comment...is this a rich man/woman's sport?  Is the best way to complete a HIM or IM truly with a coach, or can one train resonably on their own?  I battle with this question.  It seems like such a strain on my resources:  financial and time wise.  I'd like to do one IM in my life, by way of oly and half.  But I can not imagine maintaining the conditioning to do IMs repeatedly.  Has anyone done so?  Is there a reasonable way to make this part of one's lifestyle?

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jonathan22 - 2007-11-15 11:01 AM

kuotaguy - 2007-11-15 9:53 AM Jonathan, Thanks for being the first to reply. Did your training for the race involve speed, endurance, or both? And what was the longest ride you completed prior to the race? My first HIM is in May and I'm trying to get a game plan down before Jan/Feb. I've got books that lay down a 12 week plan but I'd appreciate some "real" advice from other triathletes' experience. Andrew, Great Thread! My 70.3 has been on my mind alot, so the posts here should be good for me to read.

In no particular order:

  1. This was my first year of triathlons. 
  2. The only portion of the HIM I did was the bike.  I was able to haul for the entire time without regarding to having to run off the bike.  Big difference.
  3. I had done 2 centuries and many, many rides in the 50 mile range in the summer leading up to the SC HIM.  So I never really prepared specifically for the bike leg.  I did do two 60 mile rides in the two weeks leading up to the race (again, I was just doing the bike).  The first was a moderatly hard ride and the second was as hard as I could go for 3 hours.  Prior to that, all long rides where done in zone 2.
  4. I was training for the Chicago marathon during the same time and that was my primar focus.

I think the last question requires a brief year in review:

  1. 1st tri was a sprint in May.  I followed the BT Oly plan (16 weeks I think) targeting an International distance tri the next month. 
  2. After the Int tri in June, I restarted the BT Oly plan.  This got me through another Oly(Chattanooga) in July. 
  3. Around the same time, I started my marathon ramp up for Chicago (Oct). I also scaled back my swimming since the only tri I had left was a sprint in Sept (and swimming, although I have no background in swimming) was my strongest event. 
  4. I was dissapointed with my results from the July race and I didn't feel like the BT Oly plan plus a Hal Higdon marathon plan would get me where I wanted.  So in late August I got a coach (Brett Daniels).  Brett didn't fundementally change much but gave me some focus on training toward A races (marathon) vs B races (PTC Sprint in Sept) vs. C race (SC HIM bike leg)

The best 2 peices of advice I ever got was to 1) get a coach and 2) know your HR zones.

On point one, if you only have a few races per year, an online plan or plan from a book would work fine.  However, I am doing different types of races about once a month of different distances and Brett is an objective 3rd party that can hep guide me.  For example, the Chicago marathon was a disaster.  Had it been left up me, I would have been running the next day.  As it stands, he had me take 2 weeks off and that was the right thing to do.

I did a bike LT test in the early spring and used those zones for most of the summer.  They were 10 beats too low (no wonder my bike split sucked at Chattanooga - I had been way undertrained on the bike going into that race).  My run LT was done off of a late spring 10K and I felt those where about right. Brett had me do a bike LT test and they are now set. 

I can't help but comment...is this a rich man/woman's sport?  Is the best way to complete a HIM or IM truly with a coach, or can one train resonably on their own?  I battle with this question.  It seems like such a strain on my resources:  financial and time wise.  I'd like to do one IM in my life, by way of oly and half.  But I can not imagine maintaining the conditioning to do IMs repeatedly.  Has anyone done so?  Is there a reasonable way to make this part of one's lifestyle?



Talk about a post from the past.

"is this a rich man/woman's sport?"
It can be done on the cheap. Just ask NatNegSplit. My race schedule next year will likely include 2 halfs, a few olys and a few sprints plus a marathon. All for $600 race entry fees total. By comparison, I spent $600 on each ironman entry this year alone.

"Is the best way to complete a HIM or IM truly with a coach, or can one train resonably on their own?"
Depends on your objectives in this sport and resources you have. You can easily train on your own; mostly athletes I know DON'T have a coach. Get a plan at the least. I think the fastest way to improvement is with a coach and HARD WORK (no coach can replace that last part which is the real secret sauce to improvement). BTW, there are all sorts of options on coaching that don't break the bank. 3 different examples of price points would be: Endurance Nation, Mike Plumb at TriPower and The Sport Factory.

"I battle with this question. It seems like such a strain on my resources: financial and time wise. I'd like to do one IM in my life, by way of oly and half. But I can not imagine maintaining the conditioning to do IMs repeatedly. Has anyone done so? Is there a reasonable way to make this part of one's lifestyle?"
IM is a both time and money committement. No way around that. If you want to do an IM, expect to drop $2000 on a cheap one but more like $6000 if you have to travel.
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Holy crude!  $6000.  I had no idea!
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I'm sure if you did IMLou or IMFL, it would be cheaper. Leslie or Rivi could tell you.

Just off the top of my head:
- registration fees (for IM and other races leading up to it)
- hotels for 4+ days
- flights
- rental car
- swim suits
- running shoes
- bike stuff that wears out (tires, tune up, etc.)
- nutrition (gels alone are $1 each x6 for a long ride x 4 times per month x 3 months = $72)
- replacement clothes since yours will be too sweaty smelling to wear after a while
- Any cool stuff you want that MIGHT help you train (Garmin, powertap, etc.)
- Cool stuff after races


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