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2009-07-06 11:37 PM

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Subject: Run etiquette?
I did a forum search and I couldn't find the answer to this... but is there any etiquette I should be aware of on the run? I know the bike portion you yell "on your left" or something similar to pass, would you do the same thing on the run portion though? On the bike I find my legs can push pretty hard and I'm not gasping for air, so yelling out is definitely do-able... but when I'm running at race pace my lungs are working so hard I find it very difficult to speak. When I ran cross country in highschool we never said anything, you just passed, but I could have sworn I saw someone here mention to use "on your left" during the run (I'm not exactly sure why).


2009-07-06 11:43 PM
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Subject: RE: Run etiquette?
you dont have to say anything if you dont want to.  You dont really need to say anything passing on the bike either, just pass on the left
2009-07-07 12:03 AM
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On the bike it is advisable as a safety issue. On the run, I have never said nor heard it.
2009-07-07 12:07 AM
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I wouldn;t know.   I don't think I've ever had to address this particular situation
2009-07-07 1:55 AM
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Not an issue on the run unless it's a super-tight squeeze. In fact, it may be seen as annoying and show-offy by some sensitive folks. Just do your pass and keep moving. 

"Drafting" is also seen by most runners as annoying, as there's no real speed gain from it, and they hear you breathing down their neck. 

On the bike, I do it mainly if I think the person ahead really doesn't expect someone to be coming up from behind. In a race, they generally do - it's more of an issue on training rides, though do be careful around turns. 

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2009-07-07 6:18 AM
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"On your left" is not necessary during the run, but there are some people that like to hear words of encouragement during the pass.


2009-07-07 6:42 AM
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agarose2000 - 2009-07-07 2:55 AM  

"Drafting" is also seen by most runners as annoying, as there's no real speed gain from it, and they hear you breathing down their neck. 


"Drafting" on the run has less to do with riding the slipstream and often has more to do with pacing.  That said Agarose2000 has a point in terms of how close you should get ... unless there is a headwind, then all bets are off as you can both pace off the person in front and shield yourself from the wind
2009-07-07 6:42 AM
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agarose2000 - 2009-07-07 1:55 AM  In fact, it may be seen as annoying and show-offy by some sensitive folks.  

huh????????

2009-07-07 6:45 AM
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if I hear "on your left" while I'm running on the trail, I expect a bike to pass me, not a runner!

I've never used it when running, nor have I ever seen it used...
2009-07-07 7:07 AM
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I would say "excuse me" when I run pass a few walkers waling 2-3 (or more) people abreast, talking away. 
For single walkers with headphones on, there is nothing much you can do, just hope they don't suddenly move sideways. 
2009-07-07 7:43 AM
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Between the stomping on the ground and the heavy breathing, subliminally you know you're being passed by a runner so it's not so startling.  Bikes can be so quiet it can be a surprise.


2009-07-07 8:08 AM
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agarose2000 - 2009-07-07 2:55 AM Not an issue on the run unless it's a super-tight squeeze. In fact, it may be seen as annoying and show-offy by some sensitive folks. Just do your pass and keep moving. 

"Drafting" is also seen by most runners as annoying, as there's no real speed gain from it, and they hear you breathing down their neck. 


Well, then they should run faster.  I've run behind people before, not for drafting, but for pacing, or because I intended to pass them when I sensed that the moment is right.  I really don't see what the problem is -- I've been on the receiving end as well.  The only thing that bothers me about it is that I have lost a strategic advantage, but that's my problem, not theirs (and vice versa when I'm the follower).
2009-07-07 8:18 AM
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popsracer - 2009-07-07 1:03 AM On the bike it is advisable as a safety issue. On the run, I have never said nor heard it.


i concur people have said things as i have passed them but it is usually "nice pace" or "good job" type encouragement rather than a warning.i am close to death during a race so i just grunt and wave in return

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2009-07-07 8:22 AM
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I usually try to make sure the person knows I'm approaching (as if the panting and gasping can't be heard from 100 yards) so I don't startle anyone.  People get wrapped up in their own world, especially if they've got the tunes blasting away in their ears (yes, I've seen it during races even though most prohibit it).  I'll try to be encouraging rather than "on your left"  especially if it looks like they're struggling. 

2009-07-07 8:22 AM
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Birkierunner - 2009-07-07 6:42 AM

agarose2000 - 2009-07-07 1:55 AM  In fact, it may be seen as annoying and show-offy by some sensitive folks.  

huh????????

Uh, it's a run/race.  "Show-offy"?  That doesn't make sense.  If it's annoying, then why run in the first place?  It would be annoying if the other person kept stepping on your heel or brushing up constantly on you, then you just need to move faster or drop back.

2009-07-07 8:27 AM
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Birkierunner - 2009-07-07 7:42 AM

agarose2000 - 2009-07-07 1:55 AM  In fact, it may be seen as annoying and show-offy by some sensitive folks.  

huh????????



I think the poster means that some "sensitive" folks may take it as "coming through...!!!" but probably a very very small majority.

I agree with all the above. the only thing I wil say is some words of encouragement if I recognize someone or see someone is really struggling.


2009-07-07 8:30 AM
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If I'm simply passing them at a good pace I don't bother to say anything to warn them, although in a race I will say "Keep it up!" or something like that.  Because if you're going slow enough to be passed by me, you need encouragement.

If I am drafting/pacing off someone, I might say "thanks for the good pace" if I am there for a while.  But (in a race) I don't have the breath, if I am so pooped that I am pacing off someone   That's my "go to" technique if I need a little boost.

On a training run, I don't say anything.  Except, perhaps, "Good Morning"  or "Wow, this wind sucks, huh?".  Depending on the situation and who I am passing.

2009-07-07 8:31 AM
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As a runner turned triathlete, I only say something when someone has headphones in during a race which isn't allowed during triathlons.  Otherwise, if it's a really packed race, then say something-  if not, you can just pass.


If we really want to talk about controversy, who believes in waving versus not waving while running? 
2009-07-07 8:34 AM
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McFuzz - 2009-07-07 9:22 AM

I usually try to make sure the person knows I'm approaching

oh yeah for NON race passing of females I always signal I am coming so as not to scare someone. it can be scary having a stranger quickly approach from the rear. in a race they aren't worried about an attacker.also in non race passing i make a point to at least say hi as i go by.
2009-07-07 8:54 AM
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I'll let out a odd sounding grunt.
2009-07-07 9:18 AM
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kziemer - 2009-07-07 9:31 AM
If we really want to talk about controversy, who believes in waving versus not waving while running? 


Not to hijack..but I always wave or say "hi" when going by runners (same with bikers). Lately I have noticed a trend where people generally dont wave back or say anything, which I think is rude. I have noticed this more with runners than cyclists, for whatever reason.


2009-07-07 9:22 AM
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Do you yell, "on top of you" on the swim?

I don't yell anything on the run...I just pass.
2009-07-07 9:27 AM
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agarose2000 - 2009-07-07 1:55 AM
"Drafting" is also seen by most runners as annoying, as there's no real speed gain from it, and they hear you breathing down their neck. 

 


Maybe it's mental, but I think there is a definite advantage on a super windy course running behind someone larger than yourself. As a 120lb female, I have staked out large dudes to stick behind more than once!

2009-07-07 9:40 AM
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lisac957 - 2009-07-07 9:27 AM
agarose2000 - 2009-07-07 1:55 AM
"Drafting" is also seen by most runners as annoying, as there's no real speed gain from it, and they hear you breathing down their neck. 

 


Maybe it's mental, but I think there is a definite advantage on a super windy course running behind someone larger than yourself. As a 120lb female, I have staked out large dudes to stick behind more than once!

Maybe we could ask the two female runners who zipped by Kara Goucher in the last mile at Boston where there was a headwind (and where they were drafting a lot of the way) if its 'mental' as some have stated.  On windy days, it can cut your workload a lot to get a crew of others to work with.

RE etiquette, if passing on the left, i tap the passee on the right shoulder to let them know I am passing.  Its an added bonus if they actually look behind em to see who is there!

2009-07-07 10:18 AM
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Subject: RE: Run etiquette?
jszat - 2009-07-07 10:40 AM

RE etiquette, if passing on the left, i tap the passee on the right shoulder to let them know I am passing.  Its an added bonus if they actually look behind em to see who is there!



And when they do, be sure to shout out "ha ha! made you look!"
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