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2008-07-05 2:05 PM

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 She posted a 53.78 in the 100M Free at age 41. The drug scandal pot stirring has begun I'm sure. People need to keep in mind she has always been an awesome swimmer and seems to have focused on technique and flexibility to post these remarkable times. Three cheers for Dara !!!!!!


2008-07-05 2:13 PM
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Next up, pictorial in Playboy.
2008-07-05 2:55 PM
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mdg2003 - 2008-07-05 2:05 PM  She posted a 53.78 in the 100M Free at age 41. The drug scandal pot stirring has begun I'm sure. People need to keep in mind she has always been an awesome swimmer and seems to have focused on technique and flexibility to post these remarkable times. Three cheers for Dara !!!!!!

She is truely inspiring!  I read that she is voluntering for additional drug testing to show she doesn't use performance enhancing drugs and to prevent the whispers that she endured in 2000.  Noone will be able to say she is using something now! 

2008-07-05 3:12 PM
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I was so thrilled for her!!  The fact that she can go to the Olympics at age 41 gives me hope that maybe I'll break out of the BOP someday. :-D

 

2008-07-05 3:29 PM
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SevenZulu - 2008-07-05 2:13 PM Next up, pictorial in Playboy.

 I'd buy it!

2008-07-05 4:09 PM
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Absolutely cool! Talk about longevity...

As for the Playboy thing... I doubt it.



2008-07-05 5:35 PM
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Her fastest race time ever, to boot.   That's going back 20+ years
2008-07-05 5:50 PM
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SevenZulu - 2008-07-05 3:13 PM

Next up, pictorial in Playboy.


Did you see that picture of Dara in NYT? She.is.ripped!
2008-07-05 5:53 PM
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AND she is a mom of a 2 yr old....
2008-07-05 6:01 PM
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AND she is a mom of a 2 yr old....


Oh, I didn't know her daughter is only 2. I thought older.

She works EXTREMELY hard. And I bet genetics got something to do with it too.

She is hotter than Jackie Warner (the gym owner from Bravo show Work Out), if you ask me.
2008-07-06 10:42 PM
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I'm a fan. That's an amazing achievement, when peers are at max 25 years old. I hope she's breaking down the stereotype that swimmers, especially girls, peak at 19 and after that slide. Get your WR on, Dara.


2008-07-06 11:52 PM
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And she just set the American Record in the 50M. I'm just impressed that someone my age can compete in what is an extremely competitive sport.
2008-07-07 1:19 AM
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She's awesome! Gives me hope that I'll get better at this swim thing - it's not "too late" to bother.   

She was in Maxim a while back - 2000 I think. And I could SO have an over 40 bod like hers.  Heck, I already have the 'rack'. ha ha.

 

Here's the New York Times article.

2008-07-07 8:19 AM
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ell-in-or - 2008-07-07 2:19 AM

And I could SO have an over 40 bod like hers.



Yes. I would like to have her body too. Twice a day three times on weekends.
2008-07-07 9:15 AM
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mdg2003 - 2008-07-05 2:05 PM She posted a 53.78 in the 100M Free at age 41. The drug scandal pot stirring has begun I'm sure. People need to keep in mind she has always been an awesome swimmer and seems to have focused on technique and flexibility to post these remarkable times. Three cheers for Dara !!!!!!

 

damn straight. 

2008-07-07 2:09 PM
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Okay, I'll be the devil's advocate. How does a 41 year old that had a baby a couple years ago dominate like she did? Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens both improved with age. Sorry, but I am skeptical!


2008-07-07 2:40 PM
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houston-tri-mama - 2008-07-05 12:55 PM

mdg2003 - 2008-07-05 2:05 PM  She posted a 53.78 in the 100M Free at age 41. The drug scandal pot stirring has begun I'm sure. People need to keep in mind she has always been an awesome swimmer and seems to have focused on technique and flexibility to post these remarkable times. Three cheers for Dara !!!!!!

She is truely inspiring!  I read that she is voluntering for additional drug testing to show she doesn't use performance enhancing drugs and to prevent the whispers that she endured in 2000.  Noone will be able to say she is using something now! 

 

Sure they will. The cheaters are ALWAYS at least one step ahead....

2008-07-07 2:40 PM
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Be skeptical, but pursue it.

If you want to know what she does, read this NY Times article.

2008-07-07 3:36 PM
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I am also skeptical, but far from convinced she is cheating. She does not have the bulk of earlier cheaters. If she is using a different technique, it may not show the same way.

Regardless, I am impressed with the intention and the result.
2008-07-07 3:39 PM
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jacasa - 2008-07-07 12:09 PM

Okay, I'll be the devil's advocate. How does a 41 year old that had a baby a couple years ago dominate like she did? Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens both improved with age. Sorry, but I am skeptical!


If she's doping, and not getting caught, I can tell you that there are a lot of other swimmers out there who would pay a fortune to figure out how she is doing it.
2008-07-07 4:43 PM
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GO GATORS!  All over the world, Gators influence every field of endeavor, and The Gator Nation grows.

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jacasa - 2008-07-07 3:09 PM Okay, I'll be the devil's advocate. How does a 41 year old that had a baby a couple years ago dominate like she did? Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens both improved with age. Sorry, but I am skeptical!

Nothing wrong with skeptical, but know this: not only does she *voluntarily* submit to drug tests, she has voluntarily had her blood samples stored for, if new drug tests for as of yet unknown drugs are developed, she can be tested retroactively. She's going above and beyond, because she knows the spectre of suspicion is out there.

Also, ask yourself this: why would she unretire yet again just to cheat? She has a stellar reputation...tons of medals over 4 previous Olympics. She also had plenty of money. So, why risk it? 

2008-07-07 5:46 PM
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jacasa - 2008-07-07 3:09 PM Okay, I'll be the devil's advocate. How does a 41 year old that had a baby a couple years ago dominate like she did? Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens both improved with age. Sorry, but I am skeptical!

Nothing wrong with skeptical, but know this: not only does she *voluntarily* submit to drug tests, she has voluntarily had her blood samples stored for, if new drug tests for as of yet unknown drugs are developed, she can be tested retroactively. She's going above and beyond, because she knows the spectre of suspicion is out there.

Also, ask yourself this: why would she unretire yet again just to cheat? She has a stellar reputation...tons of medals over 4 previous Olympics. She also had plenty of money. So, why risk it? 



Barry Bonds was pretty much a sure-fire Hall of Famer before he was suspected of cheating. Roger Clemens was certainly close. Both had more money than they could reasonably spend. If either did in fact cheat, why?

My answer is that hyper-competitive people have to win, and will do whatever it takes to do so.

The blood samples being frozen for future drug tests is pretty compelling for the argument that she is clean. Good for her for being proactive.


2008-07-07 7:22 PM
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 Anyone ever catch a video of her swimming? Underwater view she is doing what looks like a picture perfect TI stroke, only really fast. I think she has attained a near perfect swim stroke. Check it out around 27 seconds into this vid.... http://youtube.com/watch?v=u6FjZ5nTCXM
2008-07-08 8:01 AM
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run4yrlif - 2008-07-07 5:46 PM

Also, ask yourself this: why would she unretire yet again just to cheat? She has a stellar reputation...tons of medals over 4 previous Olympics. She also had plenty of money. So, why risk it?



More $$$$$$. Bonds and Clemens had enough. Plus, the need for the spotlight. Again, I am not saying she has done anything and I think it is a great story, but if it does come out that she is not clean unfortunately I would not be surprised.

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