How much faster do aerobars make you?
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I realize you can't really quantify this, but does anyone have some real world experiences that they can relay? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I was recently reading a book that talked about one of the larger benefits being the aerodynamic aspects, but they really aren't realized until about 20 or 21 mph. I've found that below 18 mph, I can keep the same pace in or out of the aero position. I like the aero position because I find it more comfortable over longer distances - not necessarily faster.
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Resident Curmudgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() condorman - 2008-07-24 10:52 AM I was recently reading a book that talked about one of the larger benefits being the aerodynamic aspects, but they really aren't realized until about 20 or 21 mph. I've found that below 18 mph, I can keep the same pace in or out of the aero position. I like the aero position because I find it more comfortable over longer distances - not necessarily faster. Yeah, well "I was recently reading" elsewhere that aerodynamics are aerodynamics, regardless of speed, and that slower riders garner more benefit simply by the fact that they're out there longer. Edited by the bear 2008-07-24 11:17 AM |
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![]() | ![]() the bear - 2008-07-24 10:54 AM condorman - 2008-07-24 10:52 AM I was recently reading a book that talked about one of the larger benefits being the aerodynamic aspects, but they really aren't realized until about 20 or 21 mph. I've found that below 18 mph, I can keep the same pace in or out of the aero position. I like the aero position because I find it more comfortable over longer distances - not necessarily faster. Yeah, well "I was recently reading" elsewhere that aerodynamics are aerodynamics, regardless of speed, and that slower riders garner more benefit simply by the fact that there out there longer. +1 |
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Not a Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() condorman - 2008-07-24 11:52 AM I was recently reading a book that talked about one of the larger benefits being the aerodynamic aspects, but they really aren't realized until about 20 or 21 mph. I've found that below 18 mph, I can keep the same pace in or out of the aero position. I like the aero position because I find it more comfortable over longer distances - not necessarily faster. Horsecr@p. Aero benefits don't 'vanish' at 18mph.
It's the position that matters (mostly). Aerobars just generally make it easier to ride in a more aero position. Depending on your position with/without bars, it could make a little or a lot of difference. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2008-07-23 8:54 PM condorman - 2008-07-24 10:52 AM I was recently reading a book that talked about one of the larger benefits being the aerodynamic aspects, but they really aren't realized until about 20 or 21 mph. I've found that below 18 mph, I can keep the same pace in or out of the aero position. I like the aero position because I find it more comfortable over longer distances - not necessarily faster. Yeah, well "I was recently reading" elsewhere that aerodynamics are aerodynamics, regardless of speed, and that slower riders garner more benefit simply by the fact that there out there longer. I think there is a short article on the Cervelo website that talks about this. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() The standard answer people tend to give is 1-2 mph. Qualitatively, when I go from my brake hoods to my aerobars I have to up-shift one gear to keep from spinning out, which tells me I'm in a more efficient position, probably a combination of both aero position and bio-mechanics. Being built like a barn door limits how aero I can get, so I think it probably more the latter. As far as pure speed, I can sprint a lot faster on my brake hoods than I can on my aerobars. Mark |
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Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() runrachierun - 2008-07-24 10:47 AM I realize you can't really quantify this, but does anyone have some real world experiences that they can relay? the way aerobars make you faster is that it allows your body to get lower vs sitting up as usual on a road bike. How fast it wil make you? maybe 0.5 mph maybe 1 mph maybe more. It depends on your postion and how well you can keep on generating power on that position. |
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Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() condorman - 2008-07-24 10:52 AM you should post the name of that book so we can have it on the "please don't read" list I was recently reading a book that talked about one of the larger benefits being the aerodynamic aspects, but they really aren't realized until about 20 or 21 mph. I've found that below 18 mph, I can keep the same pace in or out of the aero position. I like the aero position because I find it more comfortable over longer distances - not necessarily faster. ![]() |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() If I'm in the drops pushing 21MPH I'll gain nearly a MPH going to aero bars on my road bike. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() When I got my aerobars a couple of years ago, there was a 1-2 mph increase, as others have said. It is way more comfortable, though, to rest on the aerobars than to hold yourself up with your triceps. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I broke the sound barrier yesterday on my aerobars. Honest. You can read all about it in the book I'm writin'. Seriously, cruising at 35km/hr in aero I lose +/- 2km/hr when sitting up. ...not sure if the sonic boom gives me any boost, though
Edited by sty 2008-07-24 11:40 AM |
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Resident Curmudgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() sty - 2008-07-24 11:21 AM I broke the sound barrier yesterday on my aerobars. Honest. You can read all about it in the book I'm writin'. Cruising at 35km/hr in aero I lose +/- 2km/hr when sitting up. ...not sure if the sonic boom gives me any boost, though
Yeah, but that was the Canadian sound barrier. You know, the same differential that makes you guys think that chit like Celine Dion, Shania, and Rush actually sound good. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2008-07-24 12:30 PM sty - 2008-07-24 11:21 AM I broke the sound barrier yesterday on my aerobars. Honest. You can read all about it in the book I'm writin'. Cruising at 35km/hr in aero I lose +/- 2km/hr when sitting up. ...not sure if the sonic boom gives me any boost, though
Yeah, but that was the Canadian sound barrier. You know, the same differential that makes you guys think that chit like Celine Dion, Shania, and Rush actually sound good. I will freely admit that having to suffer Celine could certainly result in a headache equivalent to a sonic boom, however I will simply ignore your reference to Rush and turn the other cheek, gentleman-like. Edited by sty 2008-07-24 11:56 AM |
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![]() I assume you're asking about the difference between just putting aerobars on a road bike and using them, rather than the difference between a road bike and a tri bike. I don't have any scientific data for you, but I can tell you that I have ridden the same courses both completely in aero and completely not in aero, and I usually get about a .5 - .8 mph difference for about the same effort (depending on the wind). If you're trying to figure out if they are worth it, my vote is yes. Edited by DMW 2008-07-24 12:33 PM |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My non-scientific experience...riding to/from work used to take me an average of about 33 mins. Then I put aero bars on my bike and the aero gain (I'm assuming) plus the "man, I am cool on my bike with aero bars and better haul some a$$ now to justify it before the old lady on her 3-speed overtakes me" effect has me down to about 31mins, so a 2 minute gain over 10 miles (on average). My fastest time also went from never going under 30 mins to 4X under 30 within a week of switching. Either I have gotten fitter fast or the aero bars help. |
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![]() This user's post has been ignored. Edited by mixie 2008-07-24 1:07 PM |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() sty - 2008-07-24 11:21 AM I broke the sound barrier yesterday on my aerobars. Honest. You can read all about it in the book I'm writin'. Seriously, cruising at 35km/hr in aero I lose +/- 2km/hr when sitting up. ...not sure if the sonic boom gives me any boost, though
The Winchestertonfieldville PD is looking for you for breaking all those windows on Main Street! |
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Pro![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() sty - 2008-07-24 12:21 PM I broke the sound barrier yesterday on my aerobars. Honest. You can read all about it in the book I'm writin'. Seriously, cruising at 35km/hr in aero I lose +/- 2km/hr when sitting up. ...not sure if the sonic boom gives me any boost, though
The only time I cruise at 35 km/h is in a car. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I have a new pair of aerobars being installed right now!!! Have to give props to a fiancee who really loves me! |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Everything else being the same (wind,effort,road,temp.,wheels)changing your position for less drag(aerobars) will make you faster. How much faster??? Depends on a lot variables but you will be faster period. |
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Sensei![]() | ![]() sty - 2008-07-24 9:21 AM I broke the sound barrier yesterday on my aerobars. Honest. You can read all about it in the book I'm writin'. Seriously, cruising at 35km/hr in aero I lose +/- 2km/hr when sitting up. ...not sure if the sonic boom gives me any boost, though I jumped into Hyperspace.... but as you might know "Traveling through hyperspace isn't like dusting crops, boy.". So be carefull. |