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2011-11-20 4:50 PM

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2011-11-20 4:59 PM
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I ran this today but didn't find this out until this afternoon. One of the victims was a 21 year old U. Penn student who collapsed after completing the HM. Very sad, my sympathies go out to the family.
2011-11-20 5:30 PM
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How terrible, and how scary! Cry
2011-11-20 5:37 PM
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It's always sad when this happens.

Unfortunately, much of the public doesn't have a clue about what causes these things.  The majority of the comments on the article are ridiculous.  A lot of people believe that the marathon actually killed them, and don't realize that statistically, the event was probably only the trigger that caused the ticking time bomb in their chest to go off.  I know it's little consolation, but at least it happened while doing something they enjoyed like a marathon, rather than when they were shoveling snow in their driveway.

2011-11-20 7:34 PM
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Sad indeed.  And just the week before a fit (apparently) 32yo was lost in San Antonio-

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Death-at-finish-mars-Rock-n-Roll-Marathon-2267681.php

2011-11-20 7:41 PM
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Very sad. One of the runners is a frequent slow twitch poster and a virtual team mate, I'm in shock.

My thoughts are with his family tonight.


2011-11-20 8:12 PM
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running2far - 2011-11-20 8:41 PM

Very sad. One of the runners is a frequent slow twitch poster and a virtual team mate, I'm in shock.

My thoughts are with his family tonight.




This is very sad news. He was a very accomplished athlete and long-time endurance athlete. My deepest sympathy to his family.

2011-11-20 8:24 PM
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Very sad indeed.

I was at the finish line of this year's R&R Half in Los Angeles where a 37 yo man collapsed and died. I watched as EMT's and fire department paramedics gave him cpr for several minutes before they were able to transport him.....It was very traumatic to say the least.

It's a terrible tragedy anytime something like this happens.

2011-11-20 8:48 PM
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And my R&R HM is coming up in only about 15 days  (don't think about it, don't think about it, don't think about it, don't think about it)

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2011-11-20 9:23 PM
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Oh gosh, this is really sad.  It kind of worries me a bit that such great athletes can have this happen to them.  =(
2011-11-21 6:37 AM
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running2far - 2011-11-20 7:41 PM

Very sad. One of the runners is a frequent slow twitch poster and a virtual team mate, I'm in shock.

My thoughts are with his family tonight.


Sorry to hear this, didn't see anything on ST about it. If you don't mind me asking who was it?


2011-11-21 7:28 AM
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There is a thread on ST, but out of respect for the family they are not going to release his name until it is publicly released.

Unfortunately I have experience with this type of tragedy. My brother-in-law, who was an accomplished athlete for over 30 years (had over 500 races where he had a podium finish), collapsed and died after a 10k race. He had no known conditions, and just had a full physical including heart stress two months prior.

Many people blame poor conditioning, underlying heart problem, etc., but just like cancer, we probably all are candidates. Why it happens to some and not others is not yet known.

2011-11-21 8:14 AM
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This was my 3rd race in which some died.  In each case, the circumstances, races and level of experience were quite different.  While there are things we can do to minimize the risks of racing, but we can never eliminate the risks of life.  That's why it is so important to treasure life and not let it pass you by.
2011-11-21 8:35 AM
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This is very sad news to hear and unfortunately it seems that it is becoming more common in the news. My sympathies to the family and friends of the runner.
2011-11-21 9:03 AM
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SWIM2LIVE - 2011-11-20 9:48 PM And my R&R HM is coming up in only about 15 days  (don't think about it, don't think about it, don't think about it, don't think about it)

I know the feeling.  Two died during another big city marathon just the day before I ran my 1st.  I think if my DW had seen that story she would have refused to let me run. 

But statistical risk of marathon (or tri's ) is small. In recent years we've lost a few members of my local cycling club to car crashes but I still ride my thousands of road miles annually.  I refuse to live my life sitting on couch in front of the TV (which has its own long-term health risks). 

2011-11-21 9:28 AM
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Oldteen - 2011-11-21 10:03 AM

SWIM2LIVE - 2011-11-20 9:48 PM And my R&R HM is coming up in only about 15 days  (don't think about it, don't think about it, don't think about it, don't think about it)

I know the feeling.  Two died during another big city marathon just the day before I ran my 1st.  I think if my DW had seen that story she would have refused to let me run. 

But statistical risk of marathon (or tri's ) is small. In recent years we've lost a few members of my local cycling club to car crashes but I still ride my thousands of road miles annually.  I refuse to live my life sitting on couch in front of the TV (which has its own long-term health risks). 

And that is what separates us from the masses. Embrace life!



2011-11-21 12:09 PM
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http://results.active.com/pages/oneResult.jsp?pID=117161196&rsID=121446

 

It looks like something bad happened on the last half of the marathon. My thoughts really go out to his family.

 

Here's the ST thread as well:

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=3645137;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread

 

 

 



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I hate to hear about this on many levels.  It makes me feel for a wife who's now without her husband and little kids who now have no dad.  Selfishly, it makes me think about my own family and my participation in these events. 

Thoughts and prayers with the families of these people and may the deceased rest in peace.

2011-11-21 3:54 PM
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This happens several times every year.  Last year when I was running the Tulsa Marathon one of the half marathoners died during the race.  I ran past him as the EMT's were doing CPR on him.  It was pretty scary.
2011-11-21 8:27 PM
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He seems to have been the pillar of health. I'm not sure what to think about my participation in these endurance events. Is it being selfish? I have a wife and three little boys to think about. I don't know....
2011-11-22 5:01 AM
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ecpasos - 2011-11-21 9:27 PM

He seems to have been the pillar of health. I'm not sure what to think about my participation in these endurance events. Is it being selfish? I have a wife and three little boys to think about. I don't know....


I don't know.... I have similar thoughts every time I hear of one of these events. The bottom line though is that more often than not when one of these events happens in an apparently healthy individual, there is some un-diagnosed, un-expected, symptom-less cardiac issue - which of course makes it all the more shocking.... I imagine it could have happened under other high strain circumstances - training, racing, shoveling snow, who knows. I really feel for his wife and kids. So sad....

It appears a scholarship fund has been set up for his children:

Donations in Chris' name can be made to a scholarship fund for his children to:
The G. Christopher Gleason Education Fund,
c/o Gordon C. Emerick.

Arrangements have been entrusted by the family to the

Gordon C. Emerick Funeral Home
1550 Route 9 Clifton Park, New
York 12065


2011-11-22 5:53 AM
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vonschnapps - 2011-11-21 8:28 AMThere is a thread on ST, but out of respect for the family they are not going to release his name until it is publicly released.Unfortunately I have experience with this type of tragedy. My brother-in-law, who was an accomplished athlete for over 30 years (had over 500 races where he had a podium finish), collapsed and died after a 10k race. He had no known conditions, and just had a full physical including heart stress two months prior.Many people blame poor conditioning, underlying heart problem, etc., but just like cancer, we probably all are candidates. Why it happens to some and not others is not yet known.
Sorry about your B- inlaw! That's the real scary thing about this . That an outwardly healthy person who is obviously doing the right thing healtwise and is very conditioned is taken too early. It definately is a lesson in our own mortality.I still have to believe the pros still outweigh the cons of training. I too have heard stories of this happening to people just playing with their kidsSad.
2011-11-22 7:37 AM
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This is what scares me. I was going to get a stress test to alleviate my mom's fears, but as you've stated, a physical and stress test can only show so much.

Most important takeaway for me is to tell everyone I love them as often as possible...

That being said, I love you BT! Kiss

2011-11-22 8:19 AM
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Many of my friends and family members think I'm crazy for being involved with endurance events.  Yes, there's a chance something like this could happen to any of us.  There's also a much greater chance (I believe) of very positive things resulting from doing the things we do.

Not to trivialize what happened, but the very occasional bad things are what get the attention.  There are also hundreds and thousands of great things that happen before, during and after endurance events that don't get into the news. 

2011-11-22 8:34 AM
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vonschnapps - 2011-11-21 8:28 AMThere is a thread on ST, but out of respect for the family they are not going to release his name until it is publicly released.Unfortunately I have experience with this type of tragedy. My brother-in-law, who was an accomplished athlete for over 30 years (had over 500 races where he had a podium finish), collapsed and died after a 10k race. He had no known conditions, and just had a full physical including heart stress two months prior.Many people blame poor conditioning, underlying heart problem, etc., but just like cancer, we probably all are candidates. Why it happens to some and not others is not yet known.
Sorry about your B- inlaw! That's the real scary thing about this . That an outwardly healthy person who is obviously doing the right thing healtwise and is very conditioned is taken too early. It definately is a lesson in our own mortality.I still have to believe the pros still outweigh the cons of training. I too have heard stories of this happening to people just playing with their kidsSad.



The shock of a healthy person having a heart attack is enormous. When a person is the epitome of fitness and health, does everything one is supposed to do to maintain that health and has be doing it for a long time, this isn't supposed to happen. Never the less, for my BIL, if he had to choose a way, that's exactly how he would have wanted to go. He was preparing for the Senior Olympics, so he was taking it easy in this race.

Since his death, about eight years ago, I've followed tragic deaths at sporting events. I've also talked with others who have lost loved ones in this manner. Arrhythmia seems to be the common diagnosis, and what is also troubling is that many received CPR and paddles well within a time that should have brought them back, but to no avail. It is also rare that a new or unconditioned athlete suffers from this sudden cardiac arrest. It is more common for the person to have been a long time athlete. There is some research that suggests a chemical imbalance could trigger an arrest, but nothing conclusive. I've also been told by cardiac surgeons that many people have an enlarged heart, or other heart issues, and its difficult to determine if that is the exact cause of these events.

Our lives carry no certainty, only that they will end is certain. To give up running/swimming, etc. out of fear is to trade off one small risk for a whole series of other risks. It took me a while to get back into running after the death of my BIL, we often raced together. I still get that concerned look from my wife and my family when I talk about my next big event, but they have never discouraged it. They know I celebrate the life of my BIL every time I run.

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