CFA - part three?

as a "church" person who dearly loves my sheltered "church" people, while i know that most of them don't support gay marriage rights, i know that they went to CFA to "support a Christian brother defending his beliefs."  i really have no problem with that.  i truly believe that most of them are COMPLETELY unaware of some of the things winshape does...the posters in the store only advertise the college scholarships and wilderness camps for inner city kids, and who can't get behind that?  i think they have convinced themselves it is a free speech issue, because they don't know more than what the blurbs on their talk radio tell them.  (and yes i'm aware there are many people that went that DO hate homosexuality, i would just like to point out that not all evangelicals went for THAT reason)  now, if they were aware of some of the things being funded by winshape and their chicken sammich money, i'm not sure how that would change their opinion.

as a "church" person i am very torn on the issue, to be honest.  i love gay people.  and i love chicken sammiches.  but any christian should be appalled at some of the things that are going on (in other countries, true injustices and crimes are happening).  unfortunately, i will admit to being a bit of a "slacktivist."  i purposefully avoided cfa wed, not wanting to send the wrong message.  but i was running late for school on tuesday and bought a #5 meal.  i tend to be VERY discriminating with where i put my targeted money for charitable donations.  not so much with my general purchases.  does this mean i need to re-evaluate all the companies i spend at?? 

not answering your question, i know.  just working through my thoughts as a person that does see both sides of the coin.

ding ding ding...anyone heard of kony 2012 lately?

It never really hurt Cracker Barrel.  And their policy was a lot more discriminatory than CFAs ever was.  They had a policy AGAINST hiring gay employees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_Barrel_Old_Country_Store#Controversies

Also anyone hear anything about Occupy Wall Street anymore?  Not really.

People are lazy and have short attention spans.

Right next to the fish symbol with the word "sushi" on it?

That woman showed a lot of grace and poise in dealing with that kind of bullying.

Not necessarily. I don't believe there are lots and lots of people feeling strongly about those two particular institutions w/r/t my reasons for boycotting. OTOH, lots of people feel strongly (in both directions) about the issue of gay marriage. My point in raising those two personal boycotts is that it is easier to sustain a boycott than it would be to go and spend money every day (or even several times a week) to support a cause.

What a d'bag.  Really.  Idiots like this, on both sides of a topic do nothing but derail the entire conversation.  They add nothing to it and take everything away from it.  I can't stand people like this. 

So true!  That made me laugh.  Good start to the morning.  

Have you seen where their stores/restaurants are?  Of course it's not going to hurt them.

x2. The person working at the drive through window is not someone very high up on the corporate ladder. I suspect the number of decisions she makes that affect the official positions of the company, or how the company operates on a day to day basis is a number less than 1. 

But...

for all the people who are calling the whole debacle a "free speech issue" - I would hope that you are defending as strongly his statements as those of Dan Cathy (prez of CFA), and decry his being fired from his job. To me, it is the content of the speech, not the right to say it that is objectionable. Hence, Dan Cathy is wrong, and this guy is wrong. And choosing to have their respective views being aired in public is a willful mistake that each of them made. And they each deserve the backlash they engender.

You should do a youtube on that.
You could confront him while he's standing in the unemployment line.  

Since you were one of the first to respond to this thread, and see the whole CFA issue as a free speech issue, the statement I've bolded is puzzling. The government is not telling CFA or Dan Cathy not to speak their mind. The people boycotting are for the most part protesting with their own free speech, in form of not buying from CFA. And the person in the video is also making use of their free speech rights, not being affected by the government. It's the marketplace of ideas - and bad ones (gays shouldn't marry, yelling at the lowest person on the corporate totem pole) get rejected. Smith was not driving a company car, did not say "on behalf of my corporate bosses...", and yet is being fired for railing to represent the "corporate values" of his company? How is that different than people saying "I disagree with Cathy's stance, and am signalling this by choosing to boycott CFA"?

The part I've highlighted is that I believe CFA is a privately owned company. Maybe I am mistaken on it's corporate structure, but if it is owned by the Cathy family, the board cannot fire him, anymore than the board of Wayne Enterprises can fire Bruce Wayne.