SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN (Page 128)

Agree.  I have the 500 and it does a great job if you don't need maps.  I've dropped it more than a few times and it holds up.  It's on sale at Clevertraining.com for $199 and you can still apply DC Rainmaker's 10% code (DCR10TXS) to get it down to $180 with free shipping.  There may be better deals out there, but I like going through clever training and supporting Ray as much as possible.  His reviews are worth gold.

Bah!   I've had a foot issue ongoing since training for Canada that I've really been ignoring, because - oddly enough - it does not hurt at all when I run.  But running aggravates it, and I feel it when walking.  Sometimes.  PT narrowed it to muscles in the "interossia" region between 1st and 2d MT.  He doesn't think its a stress fx, and neither do i, because it doesn't present like one (i can run and bounce on it all day long). But I am getting an xray today just to rule that out.

The not hurting when running thing is weird. I've done IM, HIM, very hilly trail 18K, hilly road HM, long trail runs with no pain.  And even though the next day walking round it can hurt, once I start running I don't feel it. 

Hasn't really gotten much worse, but I figure now is the time to tackle it if it's a soft tissue injury.

Have to miss a couple races, no biggie, but otehrwise a horrible time of year to lose a major calorie burning activity :^

Got an email from TP support saying I need to update my device agent and can do a mass upload from WKO to TP.  We'll see how that goes.

Also of note is that the WKO 4 software will be a discounted upgrade for those with WKO 3. 

I had a very similar thing going on this summer Chris.  I could run, ride etc without any pain at all but walking and driving (right foot) got it rather inflamed - felt like the top of my foot was on fire at times.  Doesn't sound quite the same as yours but my Osteopath said it was my cuboid bone out of place due to some tight muscles in my foot and lower leg.  She did some of her voodoo adjustments (that never seem like they are anything), my foot was on fire that night but then I never felt it again.

I understand that none of that helps you.    I hope it's not a stress fx and you get it sorted out soon.

So after browsing through training peaks website for the first itme in like 3.5 years (since I originally signed up for an account), I noticed that the free version doesn't include any power analysis.  Am I missing something here?  Does my WKO subscription entitle me to anything?  Seems as though uploading workouts to TP isn't going to do me much of anything, and while the premium subscription charts look much nicer than Strava, it's also much more expensive.

I'm pretty sure the new Forerunner 620 will upload automatically over Wifi so it wouldn't surprise me if their next cycling one did as well.

Not sure about your area, but not every map program on the phone will work everywhere. Seem to download the info as needed and if not in range, kind of sol. The 800/810 will have all info already loaded. I like having a little redundancy on such things if it's not too difficult to get.

Yeah...it seems a lot of Garmin products could do a lot more with simple firmware updates.  No reason an edge 500 shouldn't be able to do ANT+ uploads, but if it could...then nobody would buy the 510.  If the 510 could do wireless uploads to Strava, TP, WKO, Golden Cheetah, etc...then nobody would use Garmin Connect.  Although the 3rd party app that can automatically transfer files from garmin connect to Strava looks pretty cool.

Not a Garmin hater...I love garmin products, but they really have no competition and I don't blame them for holding back some of their functionality if it means that their newer products look better or that their online software gets more use.

Thanks...     Was lucky enough to get into the podiatrist for an xray, negative for a stress fx.  Both PT and podiatrist came up with "metatarsalgia," which is like "shin splints."  Meaning, it hurts, we don't really know why.....

I have very high arches and I seem to be having a lot of foot issues lately......     I will not do the 15K this Thursday obviously, setting up a pie calorie burning ride though.   Reserving judgment for the HITS oly next weekend.  Was going to be kind of a Palm Springs weekend for me and the wife, so sort of hate to miss it.  But the race only cost $25 with a tri club discount, so it's one I definitely don't mind eating

As for the other threads, I DO NT need another toy so I am scrupulously avoiding them 

Awhile back DCRainmaker went on about how Garmin was just sitting on a goldmine with their maps & online stuff. They had far more connectiveness than anyone else did, but what have they done with it, really? If a device maker got it together with say Strava wonder how much and how fast things would shift.

I don't actually sync the phone with the Garmin. The weather feature might be nice, but think DC thought they didn't do a very good job with it. At least an early version. Don't know with the updates. My 800 actually died, so picked up an 810. Some of the organization is nicer, though I forget exactly where the 800 had some things. Don't know if an update changed this, but I love being able to slide the map around instead of just zoom in & out.

Having the route in the unit has been a fantastic help on many rides. One is for reasons you mentioned. I've seen 50+ people go right by a well marked turn on such rides, completely oblivious. If I miss, the unit says so. The 810 actually has the whole screen go black instead of just a little bar. Much easier to see. One issue that comes up every now and then is if a course loops back on itself or crosses over, it can get confused on which way to go. But at least I know I'm somewhere on the route and giving the route a once-over beforehand can help take care of that after stopping to look for a sec. Wonder if it has to do with the program used to make the route? Having the elevation profile has been very helpful too. I'll know if it's just a little hill or one of the beasts. Really can't see very far ahead on the wooded Wisconsin back roads. Garmin Connect actually does not have this for a planned route. Only for a ridden one that I "borrow". Ridewithgps and bikeroutetoaster do put in the elevation profile, however. Just another way Garmin needs to stay on their toes.

I'm not sure if there is enough market for it yet, but the next step is to create fitness devices that operate more like your cell phone that can download apps directly to it.  Think of cell phones 7 years ago.  They had the ability to make calls, text, take a picture, set an alarm, and connect to some data.  Once out of the box...that's all it could do.  That's how fitness devices are now.  They can record speed, time, power, HR, elevation, etc...but you are limited by the firmware it comes with out of the box (with the exception of minor firmware upgrades).  Now phones are made to accept apps to personalize and streamline the users experience.  The functionality of your phone 3 months after you bought it is very different from what it could do out of the box.

So imagine a cycling computer that allows you to download a Strava (or TP, Garmin Connect, MapMyFitness, etc) app directly on it.  You sync it with your PC to exchange data...not only to download your fitness files to your PC, but to upload maps, changes in weight/FTP, your training plan/schedule, or your most recent training data (such as total distance, time, TSS, TSB, CTL, ATL, elevation gain, etc in the past X days) back to the device. 

Say you download the Strava app to your bike computer and you choose to upload specific segments to your computer that you want to chase after.  As soon as you start the segment, your computer goes into "virtual parnter/course" mode that lets you know how far ahead/behind you are in real time. 

Say you download the TP app that uploads the next week of your training plan to your computer.  When you open the app, it realizes what date it is, and tells you what workout you are supposed to do and also programs the workout giving you alerts during your ride.

When you are done with your ride, your fitness data updates.  You can now quickly view your updated weekly ride totals, TSB, CTL, ATL, etc.  When you connect the bike computer back up to your PC, the apps you have recongize the connection and automatically knows to push that data to whatever website it is associated with and also pull any updated data (KOM leaderboard, new workouts, etc) to your computer.  You don't have to do anything except plug it in or get within range of the ANT+ or bluetooth sensor and everything simply happens because the app of your choice does it for you.

Of course, you have the chicken and the egg scenario.  A company won't develop such a computer unless they know that software companies will develop the apps for it.  And software companies won't develop the apps unless there is already a known device for it.

ETA:  Built in cameras into your fitness devices.  It's coming...