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2017-01-06 11:46 AM
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Racing Manatee!!!

January 7-8
Chris - Piggy's Revenge (MTB) on Sunday

January 7 is Ben's birthday

Welcome to the new Manatees!  Welcome back all returning Manatees!

Enjoy your race Chris. Hope the weather holds out for you.

Happy birthday Ben!

So speaking of weather and snow... Here is the snow that shut down the Albuquerque metro today

.... this is so much snow I can barely see any snow underneath that snow....

I laugh but it's probably for the best. These people can't even drive in the rain, let alone snow!



2017-01-06 11:49 AM
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Racing Manatee!!!

January 7-8
Chris - Piggy's Revenge (MTB) on Sunday

January 7 is Ben's birthday

Welcome to the new Manatees!  Welcome back all returning Manatees!

Go Chris, get your revenge on Piggy!!

Happy early birthday Ben!

2017-01-06 1:41 PM
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Starting a new thread here with a question for the pod:

What's the least amount of training you have done to finish a HIM without extensive suffering? Follow-up, based on your experience, what's the least amount you might recommend?

I did my first HIM last year and really loved it but thanks to some life changes I really just don't have that amount of time to put into it this year. I'd love to be able to do another one this year but might be lucky to get 8-10 hours of training in during a week. My goal would be to just finish the race.

Last year's plan had 10-14 hours of training per week (plus of course the inevitable extra hours of set-up, gear-up, laundry, etc.). The same book (https://www.amazon.com/IronFit-Secrets-Iron-Distance-Triathlon-Success/dp/0762792930) has a "just finish" plan that looks more modest and might be possible for me with respect to the training.

Just curious what experiences others here have had.

Adam
2017-01-06 2:02 PM
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Originally posted by awm007

Starting a new thread here with a question for the pod:

What's the least amount of training you have done to finish a HIM without extensive suffering? Follow-up, based on your experience, what's the least amount you might recommend?

I did my first HIM last year and really loved it but thanks to some life changes I really just don't have that amount of time to put into it this year. I'd love to be able to do another one this year but might be lucky to get 8-10 hours of training in during a week. My goal would be to just finish the race.

Last year's plan had 10-14 hours of training per week (plus of course the inevitable extra hours of set-up, gear-up, laundry, etc.). The same book (https://www.amazon.com/IronFit-Secrets-Iron-Distance-Triathlon-Success/dp/0762792930) has a "just finish" plan that looks more modest and might be possible for me with respect to the training.

Just curious what experiences others here have had.

Adam


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I decided to start doing triathlon in late Oct 2014. I did Galveston 70.3 April 26 2015. I started following a BT HIM plan in January. Just looking back through my data I trained 28 hrs in January, 30 hrs in Feb, 35 hrs in March and probably 25 hours in april before the event. There was definitely some walking going on in the run, but I finished fine. With you already having way more base than I went into that with you'll be more than fine imo.
2017-01-06 2:16 PM
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Originally posted by Jet Black

Originally posted by awm007

Starting a new thread here with a question for the pod:

What's the least amount of training you have done to finish a HIM without extensive suffering? Follow-up, based on your experience, what's the least amount you might recommend?

I did my first HIM last year and really loved it but thanks to some life changes I really just don't have that amount of time to put into it this year. I'd love to be able to do another one this year but might be lucky to get 8-10 hours of training in during a week. My goal would be to just finish the race.

Last year's plan had 10-14 hours of training per week (plus of course the inevitable extra hours of set-up, gear-up, laundry, etc.). The same book (https://www.amazon.com/IronFit-Secrets-Iron-Distance-Triathlon-Success/dp/0762792930) has a "just finish" plan that looks more modest and might be possible for me with respect to the training.

Just curious what experiences others here have had.

Adam


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I decided to start doing triathlon in late Oct 2014. I did Galveston 70.3 April 26 2015. I started following a BT HIM plan in January. Just looking back through my data I trained 28 hrs in January, 30 hrs in Feb, 35 hrs in March and probably 25 hours in april before the event. There was definitely some walking going on in the run, but I finished fine. With you already having way more base than I went into that with you'll be more than fine imo.


What was your time on that one. Just curious since you kicked my a*s at Buffalo Springs!
2017-01-06 2:24 PM
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Originally posted by TXTriRook

Originally posted by Jet Black

Originally posted by awm007

Starting a new thread here with a question for the pod:

What's the least amount of training you have done to finish a HIM without extensive suffering? Follow-up, based on your experience, what's the least amount you might recommend?

I did my first HIM last year and really loved it but thanks to some life changes I really just don't have that amount of time to put into it this year. I'd love to be able to do another one this year but might be lucky to get 8-10 hours of training in during a week. My goal would be to just finish the race.

Last year's plan had 10-14 hours of training per week (plus of course the inevitable extra hours of set-up, gear-up, laundry, etc.). The same book (https://www.amazon.com/IronFit-Secrets-Iron-Distance-Triathlon-Success/dp/0762792930) has a "just finish" plan that looks more modest and might be possible for me with respect to the training.

Just curious what experiences others here have had.

Adam


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I decided to start doing triathlon in late Oct 2014. I did Galveston 70.3 April 26 2015. I started following a BT HIM plan in January. Just looking back through my data I trained 28 hrs in January, 30 hrs in Feb, 35 hrs in March and probably 25 hours in april before the event. There was definitely some walking going on in the run, but I finished fine. With you already having way more base than I went into that with you'll be more than fine imo.


What was your time on that one. Just curious since you kicked my a*s at Buffalo Springs!


Had to go look it up. Now this bike course is way faster than buffalo springs. Especially this day, I think I had a tailwind both directions lol. That bike split is at least 10-15 minutes faster than it deserved to be.

Sean........00:34:05......02:38:56......02:04:43......05:22:13

And McManus kicked my arse that day with a 4:49


2017-01-06 3:11 PM
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INFO FOR NEW AND RETURNING MANATEES

If you haven't figured it out, we talk a lot. :-)  Fasten your seatbelts!  Also, we tend to be an inspiring bunch (as in, we use the "inspire" feature of the site a lot).  If you are not familiar with inspires, note that you can reply to them by clicking Reply.  This pops out a new window for you to type your response so that the original poster can see it. Please try acknowledge inspires, at least occasionally!  They can really help us to get to know each other.

Most of us use the training log on the site (It's required: "Keeping up your training log here on BT and opening it to other group members is mandatory.").  This makes it a lot easier for us to help each other when training questions come up.   Here's a few shorts article on training logs:  http://running.competitor.com/2013/12/training/why-you-should-keep-... http://www.active.com/triathlon/articles/10-reasons-to-keep-a-train... If you're not going to log or blog or whatever here on BT, please put a link to your training log in your BT Dashboard.

If you list your upcoming races and events on your training log  -- by adding to My Races or listing them in Dashboard.

We have a Bike Gallery as well.  Post a picture of your racing steed and draw Chris' attention to it.  He'll get you added.

We have a Strava group.  Let Chris or Janyne know and we can add you.

We also have a TrainerRoad group that Darren manages for us.  (Darren has said that he will be joining us but I have not seen him around this thread yet.)

Oh, we're on Twitter too.  Janyne manages a Twitter list -- Order of the Racing Manatee

Please be active!  Inactive Manatees make us sad!

Thanks for posting these links, I had no idea there was a bike gallery, twitter site, etc.

I just added Karen's bike to the bike album. Send me pix of yours and I'm happy to add them as well. PS, we need more gravel grinders!

Are we still doing the pet album?  On Google?

2017-01-06 3:26 PM
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Janyne, we have one that is out of date. I'm heading out, so maybe Saturday I can post the link. The link may be in here somewhere though.
2017-01-06 3:37 PM
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Originally posted by Jet Black

Originally posted by TXTriRook

Originally posted by Jet Black

Originally posted by awm007

Starting a new thread here with a question for the pod:

What's the least amount of training you have done to finish a HIM without extensive suffering? Follow-up, based on your experience, what's the least amount you might recommend?

I did my first HIM last year and really loved it but thanks to some life changes I really just don't have that amount of time to put into it this year. I'd love to be able to do another one this year but might be lucky to get 8-10 hours of training in during a week. My goal would be to just finish the race.

Last year's plan had 10-14 hours of training per week (plus of course the inevitable extra hours of set-up, gear-up, laundry, etc.). The same book (https://www.amazon.com/IronFit-Secrets-Iron-Distance-Triathlon-Success/dp/0762792930) has a "just finish" plan that looks more modest and might be possible for me with respect to the training.

Just curious what experiences others here have had.

Adam


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I decided to start doing triathlon in late Oct 2014. I did Galveston 70.3 April 26 2015. I started following a BT HIM plan in January. Just looking back through my data I trained 28 hrs in January, 30 hrs in Feb, 35 hrs in March and probably 25 hours in april before the event. There was definitely some walking going on in the run, but I finished fine. With you already having way more base than I went into that with you'll be more than fine imo.


What was your time on that one. Just curious since you kicked my a*s at Buffalo Springs!


Had to go look it up. Now this bike course is way faster than buffalo springs. Especially this day, I think I had a tailwind both directions lol. That bike split is at least 10-15 minutes faster than it deserved to be.

Sean........00:34:05......02:38:56......02:04:43......05:22:13

And McManus kicked my arse that day with a 4:49



Still pretty solid although based on some of your Strava workouts I get the impression you'd be disappointed with a 2:04 nowadays. Pet/bike gallery? I'm in for the latter.
2017-01-06 4:20 PM
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Originally posted by awm007

Starting a new thread here with a question for the pod:

What's the least amount of training you have done to finish a HIM without extensive suffering? Follow-up, based on your experience, what's the least amount you might recommend?

I did my first HIM last year and really loved it but thanks to some life changes I really just don't have that amount of time to put into it this year. I'd love to be able to do another one this year but might be lucky to get 8-10 hours of training in during a week. My goal would be to just finish the race.

Last year's plan had 10-14 hours of training per week (plus of course the inevitable extra hours of set-up, gear-up, laundry, etc.). The same book (https://www.amazon.com/IronFit-Secrets-Iron-Distance-Triathlon-Success/dp/0762792930) has a "just finish" plan that looks more modest and might be possible for me with respect to the training.

Just curious what experiences others here have had.

Adam


In my first year into running, cycling and swimming (seriously) I signed up for the Muskoka 70.3. For 9 months I was hard at it but dropped to almost zero when my dad was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer 3 months before the race. I put in the odd work out here and there but obviously my heart and thoughts were elsewhere. I did the race, the run was super tough on me as there were a lot of hills but I did make it. It was a 7 hour effort though. I wouldnt recommend what I did obvioulsy but I think 10hrs/week is doable you will just need to really make all those work outs count. Is there any possibility of lunch runs or biking in to work? I found those we easy ways to add time in that was pretty much already lost anyways.

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2017-01-06 4:24 PM
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[Pet/bike gallery? I'm in for the latter.



Pics of bikes are always strongly encouraged.


2017-01-06 4:32 PM
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Racing Manatee!!!

January 7-8
Chris - Piggy's Revenge (MTB) on Sunday

January 7 is Ben's birthday

Welcome to the new Manatees!  Welcome back all returning Manatees!

It's actually today, but thanks all!

2017-01-06 4:35 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Racing Manatee!!!

January 7-8
Chris - Piggy's Revenge (MTB) on Sunday

January 7 is Ben's birthday

Welcome to the new Manatees!  Welcome back all returning Manatees!

It's actually today, but thanks all!

Well, then, Happy Birthday!!  I should have guessed you were a fellow Capricorn. 

2017-01-06 4:36 PM
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Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by johnthecat
Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by jmkizer

I'm pretty sure that I am not alone in this but

What's with the wacky weather?!

Today I ran in short and a short sleeved shirt.  This weekend I will need to wear All The Things.

Tell me about it. This morning was the first time I've worn a shirt on a run since last Friday. I'm not sure I have enough clothes for what they're predicting here Sunday morning.
It's not going to be that cold!
28!!!!!!!! #texascold

The harder you run, the more heat you'll produce!

Sunday is LSD day

This almost got away.

More seriously though, that is cold enough to where you do want to pay attention to things. 40's can be funny as usually so long as you're moving you'll be ok, but that can change quite a bit just a little lower. You going to be ok with it? 30' of 28F just around my neighborhood isn't anything to worry about, but think your long runs are at least several hours now. Quite a bit different.




I'm mainly just joking. But when I run with my wife on her long runs in chilly weather I do have to wear a lot more than I normally would as it's more like a walking pace for me now. She's only running 8 Sunday with her marathon a week out at that point, and then I'll tack on another 7 solo but will speed up for those so not worried about temp.

I am a bit confused as to what to wear cycling tomorrow. It's supposed to be 26* at the start of our ride and just about above freezing by the time we're done. Sunny & N wind at about 10 mph.

I'm guessing the additions I'll want to make will be some hand warmers over the toes of my shoes under the neoprene shoe covers, face mask, and some hand warmers in my gloves.

I'll have on a cycling beanie, thick long fingered cycling gloves, long sleeve thermal top, bibs, short sleeve jersey, arm warmers, leg warmers, tightish pants & a cycling vest.

Thoughts?


do you have an actual jacket or just a vest? My toes were always the biggest issue when cycling in the cold but your plan of shoe covers plus toe warmers is probably good. Just be sure that the toe warmers dont make your shoes too tight - if too tight toes will get very cold. Also make sure your ears are covered.

Worst ride I ever did I was an hour from home, no shoe covers and it started to rain/snow so I was sopping wet. By the time I got home my toes were on the way to frost bite and it was hard to walk up the stairs. In the shower my toes were tingling badly and it hurt quite a bit. Good times!
2017-01-06 4:40 PM
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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by jmkizer

Racing Manatee!!!

January 7-8
Chris - Piggy's Revenge (MTB) on Sunday

January 7 is Ben's birthday

Welcome to the new Manatees!  Welcome back all returning Manatees!

It's actually today, but thanks all!

Oops!  I hope that being close counts!  Happy birthday!

2017-01-06 4:49 PM
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Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by johnthecat
Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by jmkizer

I'm pretty sure that I am not alone in this but

What's with the wacky weather?!

Today I ran in short and a short sleeved shirt.  This weekend I will need to wear All The Things.

Tell me about it. This morning was the first time I've worn a shirt on a run since last Friday. I'm not sure I have enough clothes for what they're predicting here Sunday morning.
It's not going to be that cold!
28!!!!!!!! #texascold

The harder you run, the more heat you'll produce!

Sunday is LSD day

This almost got away.

More seriously though, that is cold enough to where you do want to pay attention to things. 40's can be funny as usually so long as you're moving you'll be ok, but that can change quite a bit just a little lower. You going to be ok with it? 30' of 28F just around my neighborhood isn't anything to worry about, but think your long runs are at least several hours now. Quite a bit different.

I'm mainly just joking. But when I run with my wife on her long runs in chilly weather I do have to wear a lot more than I normally would as it's more like a walking pace for me now. She's only running 8 Sunday with her marathon a week out at that point, and then I'll tack on another 7 solo but will speed up for those so not worried about temp. I am a bit confused as to what to wear cycling tomorrow. It's supposed to be 26* at the start of our ride and just about above freezing by the time we're done. Sunny & N wind at about 10 mph. I'm guessing the additions I'll want to make will be some hand warmers over the toes of my shoes under the neoprene shoe covers, face mask, and some hand warmers in my gloves. I'll have on a cycling beanie, thick long fingered cycling gloves, long sleeve thermal top, bibs, short sleeve jersey, arm warmers, leg warmers, tightish pants & a cycling vest. Thoughts?

That might work, depending on the stuff. Think I've used a cycling jacket more at those temps and less of the individual pieces. General idea tends to be blocking wind more from the front and giving heat and sweat an out from the back. That and at least covering skin up with something as the windchill will be much higher. With the heavier shoe covers, careful of also putting in lots of or extra thick socks. Bunching everything up too tight can make it more difficult for sweat to get out.

It's still going to take some experimentation and can change considerably with wind presence, speed, and effort. Good luck!



2017-01-06 4:55 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by jmkizer

Racing Manatee!!!

January 7-8
Chris - Piggy's Revenge (MTB) on Sunday

January 7 is Ben's birthday

Welcome to the new Manatees!  Welcome back all returning Manatees!

It's actually today, but thanks all!

Oops!  I hope that being close counts!  Happy birthday!

A friend of mine did the same thing for decades. We were only like a week apart too! 

2017-01-06 4:59 PM
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Originally posted by awm007 To be fair, this was taken in Raleigh with 2 inches of snow

This is what driving North Carolina looked pretty much the whole way across. In the summer. Trip out to Cape Hatteras a long time ago, 7 separate accidents in 1 hour!

2017-01-06 4:59 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by ceilidh

Originally posted by awm007
Originally posted by Rileyvb91
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by melbo55

Oh my...a combination of being busy at work and a new manatee thread with chatty manatees makes it very, very easy to fall behind and look like a bad manatee...

I am currently finishing the last mint that was in a bag that my mom bought me at least 7.5 years ago (she passed away in July 2010), I found it as I was cleaning out a desk drawer at work.  It formerly was a 'puffy' mint but completely lacks those qualities now.  I don't care, I'm eating it anyway and thankfully so far didn't break a tooth!  Yup, I'm a bit of a sentimental sap.

Hockey practice tonight and maybe a little snow.

OMG! As was mentioned earlier, they are predicting snow for the Raleigh area -- "as much as 6 inches." I stopped by the store today to pick up a few things (not storm related) and the place was cleared out!  The lines were a zillion people long.  It's not even supposed to start snowing for more that 24-hours!

Complain about people not being prepared, complain about too many getting prepared, sheesh!

I guess snow turns us all into a bunch of monkeys!
To be fair, this was taken in Raleigh with 2 inches of snow

That is exactly the reason we are NOT going to Raleigh today. We were headed for the governor's inauguration festivities. I will take Christmas down and ride the trainer instead. The combination of Southerners not knowing how to drive in snow, Yankees who think they know everything about driving in snow, road clearing that just doesn't happen (why spend money when it doesn't happen that often) and the black ice that always happens before snow all added together, make driving in snow in the south just plain stoopid. I had to drive in it all across the state for years when it was awful. Where I live now, I don't even go out to run or walk when it ices/snows. Cars sliding into you on the road is a real possibility (we have no sidewalks).

Hope you find some nanners!

Driving in snow is one thing.  Driving in ice is something else.  Driving around people who think that having an SUV makes you a good driver...

Also, most of the inauguration stuff was cancelled/postponed.

We are expecting bad black ice from this because it's going to be so cold (Northern peeps, feel free to skip ahead).  It's expected to be -1F/-18C on Monday morning (totally unheard of here) but back to 60F/15C for a high on Wednesday. 

THIS!  ^^^^

I'm as good a driver in the snow as just about anyone (lots and LOTS of practice during hockey and ski racing seasons over the years), and I won't venture out on icy roads anymore. 

Yet I see many a monster-pickup-truck-driving-yahoo bombing along in icing conditions, confident in their F550 King Ranch Edition Dually's ability to see them through the apocalypse - and just about as many off the road when the ice actually hits...  lolz.

M

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Originally posted by Jet Black
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Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by johnthecat
Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by jmkizer

I'm pretty sure that I am not alone in this but

What's with the wacky weather?!

Today I ran in short and a short sleeved shirt.  This weekend I will need to wear All The Things.

Tell me about it. This morning was the first time I've worn a shirt on a run since last Friday. I'm not sure I have enough clothes for what they're predicting here Sunday morning.
It's not going to be that cold!
28!!!!!!!! #texascold

The harder you run, the more heat you'll produce!

Sunday is LSD day

This almost got away.

More seriously though, that is cold enough to where you do want to pay attention to things. 40's can be funny as usually so long as you're moving you'll be ok, but that can change quite a bit just a little lower. You going to be ok with it? 30' of 28F just around my neighborhood isn't anything to worry about, but think your long runs are at least several hours now. Quite a bit different.

I'm mainly just joking. But when I run with my wife on her long runs in chilly weather I do have to wear a lot more than I normally would as it's more like a walking pace for me now. She's only running 8 Sunday with her marathon a week out at that point, and then I'll tack on another 7 solo but will speed up for those so not worried about temp. I am a bit confused as to what to wear cycling tomorrow. It's supposed to be 26* at the start of our ride and just about above freezing by the time we're done. Sunny & N wind at about 10 mph. I'm guessing the additions I'll want to make will be some hand warmers over the toes of my shoes under the neoprene shoe covers, face mask, and some hand warmers in my gloves. I'll have on a cycling beanie, thick long fingered cycling gloves, long sleeve thermal top, bibs, short sleeve jersey, arm warmers, leg warmers, tightish pants & a cycling vest. Thoughts?

At first I read this (quickly) as for a run, and my thoughts were that you're going to be tender from slow roasting...  For a ride, though, that sounds about right to me for 26*.  I might wear lobster riding mittens, as my hands get cold (frostbite a few times when younger skiing - racing with too thin gloves), but otherwise good.  Likely would drop the arm and leg warmers at it goes over freezing, but they're easy enough to stuff in a pocket later in the ride.  That should work even with a breeze blowing, I'd think.

Enjoy!  I used to love those long, cold rides (especially cuz they made the first spring rides so awesome!).  I'll be on Zwift tomorrow. 

Matt

ETA - Ben hits the nail on the head with wind blocking.  Should have mentioned that my cold weather long sleeve undershirt has a wind blocking panel in the front only and makes a HUGE difference.  I have 2 pair of cold weather riding tights - one is thick, and one is thick and windproof (for single digit to twenties - I no longer will road ride in single digits, though - or maybe even teens... my blood has thinned!).

M



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Originally posted by awm007 Starting a new thread here with a question for the pod: What's the least amount of training you have done to finish a HIM without extensive suffering? Follow-up, based on your experience, what's the least amount you might recommend? I did my first HIM last year and really loved it but thanks to some life changes I really just don't have that amount of time to put into it this year. I'd love to be able to do another one this year but might be lucky to get 8-10 hours of training in during a week. My goal would be to just finish the race. Last year's plan had 10-14 hours of training per week (plus of course the inevitable extra hours of set-up, gear-up, laundry, etc.). The same book (https://www.amazon.com/IronFit-Secrets-Iron-Distance-Triathlon-Success/dp/0762792930) has a "just finish" plan that looks more modest and might be possible for me with respect to the training. Just curious what experiences others here have had. Adam

Only done 3 HIMs, so YMMV.  First after a good Oly training block as a "let's see."  Second after specific HIM training.  Third (Galveston - with a gent who could easily CRUSH me now - looking at you Sean) as a "warm up" for a triple Oly a few months later, so didn't peak specifically for it.

Training hours per month were about the same for each of them, averaging ~45 (low of 37 early in the Oly run up, high of 55 before the second one, as I was also riding a lot in prep for the B2B ride later that year).  Fastest was the second one, but only by a couple minutes IIRC.

As for no suffering, I haven't done one without suffering.    With that many hours (10-12/week on average), I was able to actually race them, though, and not glide, coast or walk.  I think it comes down largely to what you want out of the race.  To finish without injury or perhaps a specific time, etc.  FOR ME, I'd not want to try an HIM on a lot less than say 8 good hours a week, and at that would adjust my expectations on effort I could hold significantly (is my guess - haven't tried it).  Again, YMMV with age, recent and longer term base, etc.

To turn Greg LeMond's awesome quote upside down, it doesn't get harder, you just go slower. 

Enjoy the ride.

Matt



2017-01-06 5:39 PM
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And GO CHRIS!!

Happy birthday Ben (today)!! <insert birthday cake emoji here>  Hope you have a great day.

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2017-01-06 5:50 PM
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Happy to report that I am back in Saigon as of 2 AM this morning and we no longer have weather. You may all commence hating me again. Was planning to sleep in longer but the cats meowed and jumped around on the bed until I got up, even though their bowls are full. Now waiting not very patiently for me to unpack. Worse than kids, sometimes!
2017-01-06 7:40 PM
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Originally posted by Hot Runner Just realized that my steed Red Rover isn't in the bike gallery. Here he is (the red and white Cervelo with lucky elephant sticker), waiting for my disastrous ride into the Twilight Zone at Worlds. I think I have a better picture with Smudgee in his pet carrier riding the aerobars, but that is on my I-pad and was just after purchase, before I tricked him out with pedals, sticker, black roses bar tape, etc. Do we still have a Pet Gallery?

At one point I think I had this:

https://goo.gl/photos/HQdz43BBuxQHpV5a9

But I'm not sure how up to date it is.

I thought I had this somewhere. This should work for those that like pets and such.

2017-01-06 8:28 PM
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Racing Manatee!!!

January 7-8
Chris - Piggy's Revenge (MTB) on Sunday

January 7 is Ben's birthday

Welcome to the new Manatees!  Welcome back all returning Manatees!

It's actually today, but thanks all!

Oops!  I hope that being close counts!  Happy birthday!

Happy Birthday Ben!

Thanks for the well wishes. This came from the RD:

"Don’t touch the Feral pig traps you will encounter, it’s against the rules. If you see pigs just let them be and they will get out of your way, some riders like to bark at them. The Alligators won’t be very active, and if it’s cold they might be lounging close to some trails to get warm, so give them some space."

Good Times.

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