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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey guys, can I join? I would have been here earlier but I was out looking for my motivation.... |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed I didn't put two and two together when I first read the report. I will be racing primarily on pavement but will keep an eye out for insole slippage. On another note, you mentioned "Fast is certainly a component, but so is strong. The two are distinctly different.". I didn't realize how true that is until running that hilly, trail HM. I actually talked to quite a few runners about that as I was blown away by the strength folks who excelled on the hills but the speed folks who would gain on the flats. It is very different indeed and it was apparent to me that my training put me at a big disadvantage because I do not train (nor race) with strength but train (and race) for speed. I thought about you and your XC work and how in your world it seems like you would have to train for both to some degree. Very hard work to support both. Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by Asalzwed It's been awesome weather though I had ice on my windshield this morning for the first time so things are a changing. I'm been trying to get out every day I can and enjoy the sun because Daylight Savings time is just around the corner. I hate going to running at night. My night vision is not as good as it used to be. By the way, I thought the RC5000's were so cool I got a pair. I was going to wait until I earned them with a 5k PR but I couldn't resist. Originally posted by popsracer Today is Q1 day (primary quality workout of the week). wu,4x200, 4x400,4x200, cd. Had a great buildup run to this yesterday. 5 miles through a tunnel of Fall foliage. I felt strength in my legs that I haven't felt in years. I am really starting to enjoy the plan I'm following and my weakness (running speed) is beginning to change. I think I am going to progress through this plan (JD 5k to 15k, page 244 of his book) through January before starting marathon build for race in March. Awesome, Steve! Excited to keep track of your progress. BTW we are getting a little spoiled with this "fall" weather, aren't we? Oh boy. Be careful! Those shoes are not for everyone! They are fantastic though. Although ... did you read my last RR? The whole insole thing .... RW just sent me a brand new pair because of it. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by msteiner How much does race pace differ from Z3? I am always wondering whether I'm doing my long runs too fast or too slow.Welcome back, Switch! I mapped out the remaining long runs (or scheduled races depending), and here's what I got: 1:35 (1:15 @ race) 12.55 2:10 (2:00 @ Z3) 16.81 2:20 (2:10 @ Z3) 18.11 12K 1:50 (1:30 @ race) 14.6 2:40 (2:30 @ Z3) 19.22 Half Marathon 2:50 (2:40 @ Z3) 21.8 3:00 (2:50 @ Z3) 23.09 2:00 (1:50 @ Z3) 15.35 Marathon The notation is total run time (main set time) and estimated mileage. The 19, Half Mary, 21.8 and 23 will probably make up the hardest 4 weeks I've ever trained. I look at it, and the first feeling is fear, but if I can get through it, then anything I do in preparation for tri season will seem like a cake walk. There's a quote that I've been thinking about as I approach this phase of my training. It's Will Smith's quote from After Earth: "Fear is not real. It is a product of thoughts you create. Do not misunderstand me. Danger is very real, but fear is a choice." Just got to push and believe in myself. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by msteiner How much does race pace differ from Z3? I am always wondering whether I'm doing my long runs too fast or too slow. Welcome back, Switch! I mapped out the remaining long runs (or scheduled races depending), and here's what I got: 1:35 (1:15 @ race) 12.55 2:10 (2:00 @ Z3) 16.81 2:20 (2:10 @ Z3) 18.11 12K 1:50 (1:30 @ race) 14.6 2:40 (2:30 @ Z3) 19.22 Half Marathon 2:50 (2:40 @ Z3) 21.8 3:00 (2:50 @ Z3) 23.09 2:00 (1:50 @ Z3) 15.35 Marathon The notation is total run time (main set time) and estimated mileage. The 19, Half Mary, 21.8 and 23 will probably make up the hardest 4 weeks I've ever trained. I look at it, and the first feeling is fear, but if I can get through it, then anything I do in preparation for tri season will seem like a cake walk. There's a quote that I've been thinking about as I approach this phase of my training. It's Will Smith's quote from After Earth: "Fear is not real. It is a product of thoughts you create. Do not misunderstand me. Danger is very real, but fear is a choice." Just got to push and believe in myself. For me, Z3 is 7:30-8:00. For race pace I hold more of a 7:10-7:15 pace during this training, and it sucks. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Actually I found a 10K instead of a 12K that I can race that's a couple of weeks earlier, so instead my schedule is more like this: 1:35 (1:15 @ race) 12.55 10K 2:10 (2:00 @ Z3) 16.81 2:20 (2:10 @ Z3) 18.11 1:50 (1:30 @ race) 14.6 2:40 (2:30 @ Z3) 19.22 Half Marathon 2:50 (2:40 @ Z3) 21.8 3:00 (2:50 @ Z3) 23.09 2:00 (1:50 @ Z3) 15.35 Marathon |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by caffer Switch said anyone is welcome so I guess jump right in. What is your weakness that you are going to focus on for the next couple of weeks?Hey guys, can I join? I would have been here earlier but I was out looking for my motivation.... |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Yay I got up and swam today. My legs felt great no real soreness after yesterday's run. We will see what I'm like tonight cause I had some biggish kick sets in my swim today. |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() Well, I'm working on swimming and for the first time I've made a tiny time gain. I started swimming last winter and have been discouraged by slow times. I try to do a set of 50 m with 30 sec rest in between in the middle of my workout. They are not all out but fast enough that I couldn't keep up that pace forever. Today I averaged 1:09 which is a few seconds faster than I usually do. I'm working on Sheila Taormina's book. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() It was dark before I could get my workout in so I went to the University's lit track for my speedwork. It was an amazing experience. There were two other groups doing workouts so a lot of activity. I LOVE RUNNING ON THE TRACK. I spent a lot of time there years ago and didn't realize how much I missed it. I had a great workout hitting all my paces and felt very strong and comfortable. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by popsracer It was dark before I could get my workout in so I went to the University's lit track for my speedwork. It was an amazing experience. There were two other groups doing workouts so a lot of activity. I LOVE RUNNING ON THE TRACK. I spent a lot of time there years ago and didn't realize how much I missed it. I had a great workout hitting all my paces and felt very strong and comfortable. Sounds like a great experience. I love the track, too. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by b2run Well, I'm working on swimming and for the first time I've made a tiny time gain. I started swimming last winter and have been discouraged by slow times. I try to do a set of 50 m with 30 sec rest in between in the middle of my workout. They are not all out but fast enough that I couldn't keep up that pace forever. Today I averaged 1:09 which is a few seconds faster than I usually do. I'm working on Sheila Taormina's book. Awesome...it's always great to get an incremental improvement in swimming. It can be so elusive and then BAM!, an improvement. As for that 50M mini time trial, is that your "barometer" of your swim fitness at this point? Just curious...and was also wondering how everyone else measures this. -edited to fix the formatting I wrecked with my fat fingers Edited by jmhpsu93 2013-10-30 6:35 AM |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by caffer Hey guys, can I join? I would have been here earlier but I was out looking for my motivation.... Welcome! What's your weakness du jour? |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by b2run Well, I'm working on swimming and for the first time I've made a tiny time gain. I started swimming last winter and have been discouraged by slow times. I try to do a set of 50 m with 30 sec rest in between in the middle of my workout. They are not all out but fast enough that I couldn't keep up that pace forever. Today I averaged 1:09 which is a few seconds faster than I usually do. I'm working on Sheila Taormina's book. Great job! Have you been working with the book you cited long? How do you like it? I've made some pretty good strides in my swimming in the last year just by myself, but I'm looking for some extra help to push me below the 2:00 mark. I started at 3:30, so I feel great about my current 2:05, but really have an itch to keep improving. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Solid nutrition day yesterday, even if I did give in and order Thai for dinner. Hit all of my nutrient goals for the day and I didn't wake up ravenous this morning, which I did yesterday. That is always a clue to me that I didn't eat enough of something the day before. On those days, it is difficult to get regulated. Today is going to be rough. I finally have to break down and buy some Halloween candy for tomorrow. I've avoided it all month because if I buy it early and it is in the house, it disappears. It is almost like magic, but dark magic. I have a plan this year though. I'm not going to open the bag until the first trick-or-treater rings the bell and then I'm going to bring everything left to my students the next day. That way I can at least limit the amount of time the temptation is in the house. Last year (and the year before) we didn't get any visitors, so maybe I won't even have to open the bag! Training plan calls for a swim and strength training today, which I will do later this morning. I did my first weight session since last winter on Monday. I forgot how much I love to weight train! It makes me feel like Super(wo)man!! Have a great day everyone! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by drfoodlove Hi Gretchen Solid nutrition day yesterday, even if I did give in and order Thai for dinner. Hit all of my nutrient goals for the day and I didn't wake up ravenous this morning, which I did yesterday. That is always a clue to me that I didn't eat enough of something the day before. On those days, it is difficult to get regulated. Today is going to be rough. I finally have to break down and buy some Halloween candy for tomorrow. I've avoided it all month because if I buy it early and it is in the house, it disappears. It is almost like magic, but dark magic. I have a plan this year though. I'm not going to open the bag until the first trick-or-treater rings the bell and then I'm going to bring everything left to my students the next day. That way I can at least limit the amount of time the temptation is in the house. Last year (and the year before) we didn't get any visitors, so maybe I won't even have to open the bag! Training plan calls for a swim and strength training today, which I will do later this morning. I did my first weight session since last winter on Monday. I forgot how much I love to weight train! It makes me feel like Super(wo)man!! Have a great day everyone! I get you on the candy, the chocolate, the biscuits, the ... Oh I digress. Is there some sort of candy that you an get that the kids will happily take but that you don't like? For me it's anything with peanuts in it, I just don't like them so if I need stuff like that and don't want to eat it I get stuff with nuts in it. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Since we have a lot of swimmers here, I was going to share my experience with my new toy today. I purchased a Garmin Swim, so that I can analyze my swims along with my running and cycling. Here's a link to the data from my swim this morning: https://connect.garmin.com/activity/397481149 It's pretty cool info. Pretty funny that it thought two of my 25 yard sprints at the end was butterfly. Maaaaybe lost some form there. |
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![]() | ![]() Hmmmm, I like my personal challenge of laser focus/pushing my limits while racing but I think I am going to need something else to work on in between. And it's not that I don't have a world of issues to address, I am just not sure which one to tackle. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by caffer Hey guys, can I join? I would have been here earlier but I was out looking for my motivation.... Chris!! Jump in and pick a weakness! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by StaceyK Yay I got up and swam today. My legs felt great no real soreness after yesterday's run. We will see what I'm like tonight cause I had some biggish kick sets in my swim today. I usually always find swimming to be restorative for my legs (sometimes not so much for my shoulders or low back). Hope you find the same to be true and the legs still feel great tonight! |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Yes, Caffer/Chris, welcome! Are you still plugging away at core or are you going to give us 9me) something new to harp, errrr, I mean encourage you on? Matt—that looks like a tough schedule. I’m excited to see how this goes for you. Have you told us your goal time? Btw, I totally laughed at the Garmin/butterfly comment. Then I looked at your Garmin data and was not laughing. Daaaaaayum, you’re fast! Steve—you’re inspiring me to give the track another go. It has been a long time since I’ve been there, but hearing you describe how much you love it makes me want to give it a go. Thanks for the inspiration. Gretchen—sounds like the nutrition focus is going well. The Halloween candy can be my undoing. I had four pieces yesterday—stupid emotional eating—and they made me feel terrible. I have to remember that my body really does not like that crap. I like Stacey’s suggestion of buying a kind you don’t like—if there was a nuclear holocaust I would probably eat cockroaches before sweet tarts or Nerds. So, there’s that;) Stacey—Look at you be all consistent—woot woot! Super strong work there. After I post this message I’m going to go do your swim set and I have a feeling on the 100s with 5 sec RI I will indeed be cursing you;) Kim—Sounds like you’re on track and getting it done. Lots of people swear by Barry P. Nice job J Mike—Congratulations to your daughter! As others have said, I have a feeling she’d be well in the FOP on the swim. Hope your running and yoga have been going well. B2run—Have you considered a private session or two with a coach? Sometimes finances or schedules are prohibitive, but it could be just a bit of feedback that could help a ton. I did this a couple of times last year (right when I started swimming as a part of a single time group session and then a few months later with a private coach for a couple of sessions) and it really helped. More than anything doing a focus that gets me in the water 4-6x/week has been the most remarkable thing. Focusing on short intervals like you’re doing with the 50s is, from what all the fishies say, the way to go. Also, I know a lot of “real swimmers” are not keen on the pull buoy for triathletes, but I felt that some judicious use of that really helped me feel things with my catch/EVF. Noelle—hope you’re finding ways to get yourself all stretched out. Ahem... Salty—Maybe you should focus on Yanti’s suggestions for healing??? We don’t want a sick Salty J Dale—Are you there? How’s it going busy guy? Nicole—How’s the running? ------------------------------------------------------------ I had two pretty bleh days both with food, travel and lack of training impetus. I am going to do my best to get myself back on track today. The dark, dark mornings make it hard for me to get going… |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by StaceyK Hi Gretchen Is there some sort of candy that you an get that the kids will happily take but that you don't like? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! This presumes that there exists a candy on this planet that I don't like!! There isn't. I even know exactly what is in a Reese Peanut Butter Cup and I still eat those (hint: it isn't peanut butter OR chocolate). My best strategy is to keep it out of the house. Fortunately for me, tomorrow is date night, so after trick or treating hours are over, before we head out to dinner, I'm going to drop the candy off at my office to avoid having it in the house overnight. I just have to resist from 5-8pm. I can do it. edit: Thanks for the suggestion Stacey! Didn't want to sound like a jerk, but I lol when I read that, cause really, there isn't anything I don't like. Even Nerds and SweetTarts, Switch! Edited by drfoodlove 2013-10-30 11:37 AM |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by Asalzwed I didn't put two and two together when I first read the report. I will be racing primarily on pavement but will keep an eye out for insole slippage. On another note, you mentioned "Fast is certainly a component, but so is strong. The two are distinctly different.". I didn't realize how true that is until running that hilly, trail HM. I actually talked to quite a few runners about that as I was blown away by the strength folks who excelled on the hills but the speed folks who would gain on the flats. It is very different indeed and it was apparent to me that my training put me at a big disadvantage because I do not train (nor race) with strength but train (and race) for speed. I thought about you and your XC work and how in your world it seems like you would have to train for both to some degree. Very hard work to support both. Originally posted by popsracer Originally posted by Asalzwed It's been awesome weather though I had ice on my windshield this morning for the first time so things are a changing. I'm been trying to get out every day I can and enjoy the sun because Daylight Savings time is just around the corner. I hate going to running at night. My night vision is not as good as it used to be. By the way, I thought the RC5000's were so cool I got a pair. I was going to wait until I earned them with a 5k PR but I couldn't resist. Originally posted by popsracer Today is Q1 day (primary quality workout of the week). wu,4x200, 4x400,4x200, cd. Had a great buildup run to this yesterday. 5 miles through a tunnel of Fall foliage. I felt strength in my legs that I haven't felt in years. I am really starting to enjoy the plan I'm following and my weakness (running speed) is beginning to change. I think I am going to progress through this plan (JD 5k to 15k, page 244 of his book) through January before starting marathon build for race in March. Awesome, Steve! Excited to keep track of your progress. BTW we are getting a little spoiled with this "fall" weather, aren't we? Oh boy. Be careful! Those shoes are not for everyone! They are fantastic though. Although ... did you read my last RR? The whole insole thing .... RW just sent me a brand new pair because of it. Yeah, I don't believe the insole issue was from the terrain. It was just a weird thing. I'm hoping I don't have the same issue with the new pair. It's quite annoying when you are trying to focus on a race. But yeah. Fast and strong. VERY true that you need to train for both in XC. I am definitely a strength-runner. Defined by my coach. And my teammates call me the goat. lol. It's crazy. I am not "fast" and do my workouts with a specific group based off of my VDOT or whatever but when we do combo workouts where we do hill repeats at the end , I am nearly keeping up with our elite men. I have NO idea why this is a strength of mine. I guess that suggests I should be working on my speed. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by drfoodloveSolid nutrition day yesterday, even if I did give in and order Thai for dinner. Hit all of my nutrient goals for the day and I didn't wake up ravenous this morning, which I did yesterday. That is always a clue to me that I didn't eat enough of something the day before. On those days, it is difficult to get regulated. Today is going to be rough. I finally have to break down and buy some Halloween candy for tomorrow. I've avoided it all month because if I buy it early and it is in the house, it disappears. It is almost like magic, but dark magic. I have a plan this year though. I'm not going to open the bag until the first trick-or-treater rings the bell and then I'm going to bring everything left to my students the next day. That way I can at least limit the amount of time the temptation is in the house. Last year (and the year before) we didn't get any visitors, so maybe I won't even have to open the bag!Training plan calls for a swim and strength training today, which I will do later this morning. I did my first weight session since last winter on Monday. I forgot how much I love to weight train! It makes me feel like Super(wo)man!!Have a great day everyone! When I go for Thai food I usually think of that as a healthier option. But then again I had McDonald's for lunch AND dinner yesterday. Life has been so busy lately that it's just been too easy. As I get busy too, I have less time to feed my son properly and he loves McNuggets so it has been almost a daily thing. I think I need a vacation. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Monday was a non-running night, so I did some stretching, foam rolling, eccentric heel drops, and eccentric wall squats -- hoping all this will keep me on the right path to continue running! Last night, I did 2.2 miles with the dogs -- warm and humid, so the pace was a little slower for the same effort....but seriously, I'd give up a bit of time if the weather could always be like that ![]() Planning for a 30 minute run tonight....supposed to be dumping down rain all day today, but it looks fairly decent out right now, so I'll just have to hold out hope that it'll be decent tonight. I should be smarter and have a pair of shoes in the car so I could hit up a treadmill on the way home for days with crap weather....but apparently I'm not! |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ligersandtions Monday was a non-running night, so I did some stretching, foam rolling, eccentric heel drops, and eccentric wall squats -- hoping all this will keep me on the right path to continue running! Last night, I did 2.2 miles with the dogs -- warm and humid, so the pace was a little slower for the same effort....but seriously, I'd give up a bit of time if the weather could always be like that Awesome! All those supplemental things you listed above are soooo good for running. Keep it up! And look at the rain as an adventure ![]() ![]() |
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