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 2010-10-18 12:14 PM in reply to: #3158230 |
Elite  4108   Calgary,AB,Canada |  Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!!kt65 - 2010-10-18 11:06 AM Thanks, Doug, it finally let me submit at about 8am PST. I thought I was going to have to call on John again to sign me up!  Trevor, Kyla was so kind to post the picture after 24 miles? Is your filter on at work again?We want a picture of you doing the stretch after your next long run! 31k?  Crap, i think I need to go home asap. I do not see a picture on Kyla's post. |
| 2010-10-18 12:32 PM in reply to: #3158137 |
Champion 7163  Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! cadmus - 2010-10-18 11:43 AM sdalessio - 2010-10-18 8:41 AM TrevorC - 2010-10-16 9:11 PM TRAINING QUESTION So I got my 17.38 miles run in.(or 28k) Just what was in my plan. The last 5k was super hard on me. So for all you marathon vets....How do you know if you're running is improving? Or how do you know when/if you are ready for the distance? And out of curiosity, how many calories an hour do you take in running the distance? Honestly today, I feel like running is starting to kick my a$$. Volume is really starting to pick up, and I'm starting to get a bit concerned about being ready. I really struggled with it. I really had to push myself through it. I mean I happy getting it in today, but it was super slow. I don't know. I really thought during the last bit of the run today about dropping down to the 1/2 in Vegas. I think this is all pretty normal. I recall feeling pretty sore towards the end of my long runs especially when I hit a new distance milestone. So the first time I did 15, 17, 18, 20 miles - it hurt the last few miles but when I ran that distance again it wasn't so bad. I also think it's good mental training b/c there will come a point in the marathon that everything is hurting. And with your training runs, you know you can push through. Also if you are feeling beat up take care of the body. Massages, compression socks, ice baths (or go sit in the snow - it's snowing now if your world, right ;-) ), etc. I also use this goofy stretch/yoga pose after my ice baths. Not sure if it did that much good but it sure felt good. Lay on the floor facing a wall, move your bottom as close to the point where the wall and the floor meet and put your legs straight up the wall so your body is in a "L" shape, flex toes. It felt good on my back and on the legs. Was that recommended by your coach? I don't know the answer, but instinctively I'd think that stretching before the ice bath, while your muscles are warm and pliable would be safer and more beneficial. Again, I don't know that to be true - just seems like a better order in my mind. On a strecthing note - there is an article in the current RW issue about stretching and foam rollers. It said to use the foam roller post-run, pre-stretch. I'd been stretching and then rolling (if I rolled at all). I tried this order after Friday's run and it did seem to give better results. (Sorry John, no controls were used, no empiracal measurments taken - purely anectdotal evidence from a guy that hasn't even been using the roller much recently). You definitely want to stretch muscles when they are warm, not cold. I think that pose is more to recirculate blood flow back into the body, but I would still do it warm. It was one of the things Steve told me to do as soon as I finished IM. |
| 2010-10-18 12:39 PM in reply to: #3158253 |
Master 1478 Horseheads, NY | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! TrevorC - 2010-10-18 1:14 PM kt65 - 2010-10-18 11:06 AM Thanks, Doug, it finally let me submit at about 8am PST. I thought I was going to have to call on John again to sign me up! Trevor, Kyla was so kind to post the picture after 24 miles? Is your filter on at work again?We want a picture of you doing the stretch after your next long run! 31k? Crap, i think I need to go home asap. I do not see a picture on Kyla's post. x2!! I spend a LONG time in this position after long runs. I stretch the hammies, make my legs into a V and get the groin area, cross one leg over the other to get the glute, do a pigeon, curl up legs and twist from side to side... It feels sooooo good to put your legs up on the wall after a long run!! (This is me after 24 miles...) Fortunately, it is not a pic of her doing a pigeon...not sure I would want to see a picture of that |
| 2010-10-18 12:51 PM in reply to: #3138641 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! Some nice numbers from this weekend! I am truely impressed... I guess there is no OFF SEASON?!! Man do I feel lazy! |
| 2010-10-18 2:47 PM in reply to: #3158137 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! |
| 2010-10-18 2:53 PM in reply to: #3138641 |
Expert 1797 CHARLOTTESVILLE, Virginia | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! cadmus - 2010-10-18 12:43 PM sdalessio - 2010-10-18 8:41 AM TrevorC - 2010-10-16 9:11 PM TRAINING QUESTION So I got my 17.38 miles run in.(or 28k) Just what was in my plan. The last 5k was super hard on me. So for all you marathon vets....How do you know if you're running is improving? Or how do you know when/if you are ready for the distance? And out of curiosity, how many calories an hour do you take in running the distance? Honestly today, I feel like running is starting to kick my a$$. Volume is really starting to pick up, and I'm starting to get a bit concerned about being ready. I really struggled with it. I really had to push myself through it. I mean I happy getting it in today, but it was super slow. I don't know. I really thought during the last bit of the run today about dropping down to the 1/2 in Vegas. I think this is all pretty normal. I recall feeling pretty sore towards the end of my long runs especially when I hit a new distance milestone. So the first time I did 15, 17, 18, 20 miles - it hurt the last few miles but when I ran that distance again it wasn't so bad. I also think it's good mental training b/c there will come a point in the marathon that everything is hurting. And with your training runs, you know you can push through. Also if you are feeling beat up take care of the body. Massages, compression socks, ice baths (or go sit in the snow - it's snowing now if your world, right ;-) ), etc. I also use this goofy stretch/yoga pose after my ice baths. Not sure if it did that much good but it sure felt good. Lay on the floor facing a wall, move your bottom as close to the point where the wall and the floor meet and put your legs straight up the wall so your body is in a "L" shape, flex toes. It felt good on my back and on the legs. Was that recommended by your coach? I don't know the answer, but instinctively I'd think that stretching before the ice bath, while your muscles are warm and pliable would be safer and more beneficial. Again, I don't know that to be true - just seems like a better order in my mind. On a strecthing note - there is an article in the current RW issue about stretching and foam rollers. It said to use the foam roller post-run, pre-stretch. I'd been stretching and then rolling (if I rolled at all). I tried this order after Friday's run and it did seem to give better results. (Sorry John, no controls were used, no empiracal measurments taken - purely anectdotal evidence from a guy that hasn't even been using the roller much recently). I usually did this stretch after my bath but not as soon as got out. It was more once I had gotten dressed, eaten something, and put my compression socks on. Then I'd lie down in the LR and do it while watching TV. :-) |
| 2010-10-18 2:58 PM in reply to: #3158684 |
Master 2501 | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! I do The Stretch almost as soon as I walk in the door after a long run (pre-shower). I make sure I've consumed a few recovery calories first, but then I just do The Stretch for a long time. So funny that we all do it!! Love the reading of bedtime stories that way, Tracy. I have been known to grab a book or a crossword puzzle or an iphone when I am in The Stretch for awhile. It's easy to stay there for a very long time when your legs are trashed!!! |
| 2010-10-18 3:00 PM in reply to: #3158673 |
Elite 4108 Calgary,AB,Canada | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! |
| 2010-10-18 3:06 PM in reply to: #3158695 |
Expert 1797 CHARLOTTESVILLE, Virginia | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! TrevorC - 2010-10-18 3:00 PM dalessit - 2010-10-18 1:47 PM Thanks for the post Sam HA HA I think Tracy described it perfectly that it feels so awesome to feel all of the blood rush out of your legs. |
| 2010-10-18 3:14 PM in reply to: #3158361 |
Extreme Veteran 362 | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! swbkrun - 2010-10-18 12:51 PM Some nice numbers from this weekend! I am truely impressed... I guess there is no OFF SEASON?!! Man do I feel lazy! There's an off season???? |
| 2010-10-18 3:24 PM in reply to: #3158361 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! swbkrun - 2010-10-18 12:51 PM Some nice numbers from this weekend! I am truely impressed... I guess there is no OFF SEASON?!! Man do I feel lazy! Me too. I AM doing the off season thing, but not embracing it very well. I miss my 6 hour bike rides and 90 minute runs. |
| 2010-10-18 6:45 PM in reply to: #3138641 |
Master 2621 Almaden Valley, San Jose, California | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! Boston. CLOSED. I may cry. |
| 2010-10-18 7:25 PM in reply to: #3158752 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! SSMinnow - 2010-10-18 4:24 PM swbkrun - 2010-10-18 12:51 PM Some nice numbers from this weekend! I am truely impressed... I guess there is no OFF SEASON?!! Man do I feel lazy! Me too. I AM doing the off season thing, but not embracing it very well. I miss my 6 hour bike rides and 90 minute runs. I guess it's triathlon off-season but it's right in the midst of cyclocross season (2nd race this weekend) and starting to get ready for marathon season. |
| 2010-10-18 7:28 PM in reply to: #3159117 |
Master 2501 | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! |
| 2010-10-18 7:40 PM in reply to: #3159117 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! |
| 2010-10-18 7:45 PM in reply to: #3159117 |
Elite 3072 san francisco | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! velcromom - 2010-10-18 4:45 PM Boston. CLOSED. I may cry. So sorry, Linda (and Kyla)... Maybe Jeff can re-qualify at Boston and then you guys can run it together in 2012? 8 hours. That is crazy. |
| 2010-10-18 8:24 PM in reply to: #3159201 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! fattyfatfat - 2010-10-18 7:40 PM velcromom - 2010-10-18 7:45 PM Boston. CLOSED. I may cry. that sucks. Linda--really sorry that Boston closed so soon.  |
| 2010-10-18 8:25 PM in reply to: #3138641 |
Master 2621 Almaden Valley, San Jose, California | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! Jeff didn't get my sense of urgency this morning....he's not in, either. And his time won't be good in 2012.  |
| 2010-10-18 8:33 PM in reply to: #3138641 |
Master 2621 Almaden Valley, San Jose, California | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! We took the dog for a walk, with a glass of wine. I'm still gonna run SV, you never know. Maybe there's glitch, and it'll reopen! Or maybe Jeff will run another one and re-qualify for 2012. Maybe I won't qualify anyway. Dang - was so planning on this. Jeff would run, I would run or cheer. Either way would be good. Jeff's really bummed - he hasn't done Boston yet, and he just didn't get to the registration this morning. |
| 2010-10-18 9:26 PM in reply to: #3159283 |
Master 2501 | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! So are you guys in, Kim and Suzy?? So sorry for you guys, Linda. I didn't even know that happens with Boston. But don't let it hold you back from your SV Marathon, because if you Q then you can use it for 2012, can't you?? Chin up, girl!! I'm half tempted to plan a trip to SJ to cheer you on!! Only the MG would be mad at me because I'm not planning a trip to Vegas. (But I am planning a weekend way with my non-athlete gals in a few weeks!) |
| 2010-10-18 9:45 PM in reply to: #3159283 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! velcromom - 2010-10-18 9:33 PM We took the dog for a walk, with a glass of wine. I'm still gonna run SV, you never know. Maybe there's glitch, and it'll reopen! Or maybe Jeff will run another one and re-qualify for 2012. Maybe I won't qualify anyway. Dang - was so planning on this. Jeff would run, I would run or cheer. Either way would be good. Jeff's really bummed - he hasn't done Boston yet, and he just didn't get to the registration this morning. Bummer, sorry to hear that, seems like it caught quite a few by surprise. |
| 2010-10-19 7:32 AM in reply to: #3138641 |
Expert 1797 CHARLOTTESVILLE, Virginia | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! Sorry ladies and related hubbies - I am very sad for all those who missed the entry. I really want to be there someday too. I wonder why so fast this year. It took over 2 months last year. I'm also scared now they are going to change the qualifying times and my AG will really be hit since it is "apparantly" so easy. Oh well I guess it is one of those things that is out of my hands so all I can do is worry about me and train harder. |
| 2010-10-19 8:17 AM in reply to: #3138641 |
Master 1478 Horseheads, NY | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! Heard this piece on the radio yesterday morning about PF. Some info on ultrasound treatment that is seeing a higher level of use in the US (with questionable effectiveness). Not sure if it is new info to everyone but it was new to me... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130573337 |
| 2010-10-19 8:38 AM in reply to: #3138641 |
Elite 3395 Raleigh | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! OK Suzy and MG peeps: (Drum roll......) I am in for Rev3 in Knoxville! Has anyone registered yet? My friend Harold Liles is going to race it too (Tracy knows him). Doug |
| 2010-10-19 8:42 AM in reply to: #3159751 |
Master 2436 Apex, north carolina | Subject: RE: swbkrun Mentor Group II- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! gdale - 2010-10-19 9:17 AM Heard this piece on the radio yesterday morning about PF. Some info on ultrasound treatment that is seeing a higher level of use in the US (with questionable effectiveness). Not sure if it is new info to everyone but it was new to me... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130573337 I haven't listened to the link, but speaking on ultrasound treatments, my physical therapist has used them on my calf muscle when it was in really bad shape and on my achilles tendon when I tweaked my ankle. It helped me. However my P.T. did say that is works for some but not others. Guess I'm in the some catagory. And so very sorry about Boston |
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