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 2017-01-10 8:47 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master  7712     Orlando |  Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 EditionOriginally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Hot Runner What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. hahaha! I think that there are several Manatees who employ this strategy! I know that Hands does and I've seen Anne post some might early workouts as well! Yep, I am an early morning work out person - at least when it comes to running. In fact, I'm so early my warm up usually is identified by Garmin/Strava as a night one! Since I've been on running shut down and have not had anyone to do long early morning walks with, I've actually been sleeping in every morning (6 am) and staying up til after 10 or 11! It's weird and may end Thursday if I get out to walk 6-8 miles. |
| 2017-01-10 8:49 AM in reply to: ceilidh |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by ceilidh I ride outside so rarely, except to MB, that Strava seems silly. Strava will also upload your running and swimming. Like Janyne, I am on it more as a social tool; with the easy upload from Garmin it is easy peasy. |
| 2017-01-10 8:50 AM in reply to: ceilidh |
| 812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by ceilidh I ride outside so rarely, except to MB, that Strava seems silly. that's not what it's about. it displays all of your workouts, not just outdoor rides. heck, I only ride outside once a week at most and maybe only once every couple of weeks right now. it's fun. |
| 2017-01-10 8:58 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Hot Runner What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. hahaha! I think that there are several Manatees who employ this strategy! I know that Hands does and I've seen Anne post some might early workouts as well! I wouldn't say I'm a morning person but I do prefer to get my workouts done in the AM if I can. I'm more of a "don't talk to me until 8am" kind of person - which means "don't talk to me at all at the gym or the pool" LOL |
| 2017-01-10 8:59 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Hot Runner What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. hahaha! I think that there are several Manatees who employ this strategy! I know that Hands does and I've seen Anne post some might early workouts as well! Yep, I am an early morning work out person - at least when it comes to running. In fact, I'm so early my warm up usually is identified by Garmin/Strava as a night one! Since I've been on running shut down and have not had anyone to do long early morning walks with, I've actually been sleeping in every morning (6 am) and staying up til after 10 or 11! It's weird and may end Thursday if I get out to walk 6-8 miles. Lockdown taper?! |
| 2017-01-10 9:09 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Hot Runner What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. hahaha! I think that there are several Manatees who employ this strategy! I know that Hands does and I've seen Anne post some might early workouts as well! Yep, I am an early morning work out person - at least when it comes to running. In fact, I'm so early my warm up usually is identified by Garmin/Strava as a night one! Since I've been on running shut down and have not had anyone to do long early morning walks with, I've actually been sleeping in every morning (6 am) and staying up til after 10 or 11! It's weird and may end Thursday if I get out to walk 6-8 miles. Lockdown taper?! In theory yes, I am at the end of the ortho prescribed lock down - Saturday will be the day (5 weeks from when I shut myself down, 1 month from when the Dr did), but I am still having pain, so I don't think I will be able to get back at it. Happily, the last few days has seen some good improvement, so fingers crossed it won't be too terribly long before I can start slowly ramping things up. |
| 2017-01-10 9:12 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Taking my mind of things here in Orlando to ask, who uses Training Peaks? If you do, which version -free or paid? What do you use it for and what do you like or not like about it? Thanks! I use Training Peaks with . I had the free version for a while to play with it partly because I knew that my next coach was likely to be on TP. I got frustrated with the free version because it was difficult to plan ahead. With the free version you can record what you did but not plan what you are going to do. USAT members get a 20% off discount for TP.
ok, one last (maybe) question. If you have your own plan I assume you can manually input the entire thing ,or some portion thereof, and then work off it. I guess that was more of a statement than a question, so ... Right? |
| 2017-01-10 9:31 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Taking my mind of things here in Orlando to ask, who uses Training Peaks? If you do, which version -free or paid? What do you use it for and what do you like or not like about it? Thanks! I use Training Peaks with . I had the free version for a while to play with it partly because I knew that my next coach was likely to be on TP. I got frustrated with the free version because it was difficult to plan ahead. With the free version you can record what you did but not plan what you are going to do. USAT members get a 20% off discount for TP.
ok, one last (maybe) question. If you have your own plan I assume you can manually input the entire thing ,or some portion thereof, and then work off it. I guess that was more of a statement than a question, so ... Right? Yes. In fact, that is exactly what I did between the time that Maija retired and I started to work with Jackie. |
| 2017-01-10 9:32 AM in reply to: amd723 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Hot Runner What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. hahaha! I think that there are several Manatees who employ this strategy! I know that Hands does and I've seen Anne post some might early workouts as well! Yep, I am an early morning work out person - at least when it comes to running. In fact, I'm so early my warm up usually is identified by Garmin/Strava as a night one! Since I've been on running shut down and have not had anyone to do long early morning walks with, I've actually been sleeping in every morning (6 am) and staying up til after 10 or 11! It's weird and may end Thursday if I get out to walk 6-8 miles. Lockdown taper?! In theory yes, I am at the end of the ortho prescribed lock down - Saturday will be the day (5 weeks from when I shut myself down, 1 month from when the Dr did), but I am still having pain, so I don't think I will be able to get back at it. Happily, the last few days has seen some good improvement, so fingers crossed it won't be too terribly long before I can start slowly ramping things up. I'm sorry to hear that you are still experiencing some pain. Hopefully you will see some continued (and rapid) improvement! |
| 2017-01-10 9:38 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I wouldn't say I'm a morning person but I do prefer to get my workouts done in the AM if I can. I'm more of a "don't talk to me until 8am" kind of person - which means "don't talk to me at all at the gym or the pool" LOL Originally posted by Hot Runner What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. hahaha! I think that there are several Manatees who employ this strategy! I know that Hands does and I've seen Anne post some might early workouts as well! There's a video here of a Manatee trying to wake up: https://www.facebook.com/OceanRealityTV/videos/805508809532928/ 1. No, I'm not just here to occasionally post adorable manatee things ... I'm a little out of commission right now but will be back as soon as possible. 2. SEVENTEEN PAGES?!?! |
| 2017-01-10 10:00 AM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I wouldn't say I'm a morning person but I do prefer to get my workouts done in the AM if I can. I'm more of a "don't talk to me until 8am" kind of person - which means "don't talk to me at all at the gym or the pool" LOL Originally posted by Hot Runner What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. hahaha! I think that there are several Manatees who employ this strategy! I know that Hands does and I've seen Anne post some might early workouts as well! There's a video here of a Manatee trying to wake up: https://www.facebook.com/OceanRealityTV/videos/805508809532928/ 1. No, I'm not just here to occasionally post adorable manatee things ... I'm a little out of commission right now but will be back as soon as possible. 2. SEVENTEEN PAGES?!?! Good to see you here, Yanti! I hope that you are feeling at least a little bit better about things and that Mutti has improved. I know that you were planning to get to Perth about this time. I hope that you are headed there soon if you are not in Perth already. We're all thinking of you! |
| 2017-01-10 10:20 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Question. Is there a way to get zwift rides to auto post on BT? It pushes to Strava but not sure to get them to here... Thx! It sounds like maybe a third party tool is needed so that you can go Zwift > Strava > BT. What can Swift automatically connect with? Since I started using Tapiriik I find that info from my band gets loaded to BT twice |
| 2017-01-10 10:22 AM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Question. Is there a way to get zwift rides to auto post on BT? It pushes to Strava but not sure to get them to here... Thx! It sounds like maybe a third party tool is needed so that you can go Zwift > Strava > BT. What can Swift automatically connect with? Since I started using Tapiriik I find that info from my band gets loaded to BT twice How frustrating! |
| 2017-01-10 10:32 AM in reply to: ceilidh |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by ceilidh Originally posted by cdban66 Shorter than usual RR up for Piggy's Revenge. http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=545449 Fun stuff, learned a bunch, and will do more of this in the future. But not until I figure out bike handling in the woods. Riding in the woods there would be way different from lots of places. Was there much sand? The benefit of the previous day of rain was a packing down of the sand in many places. Except in the places where it was loose, which is where I crashed and managed to tumble down a creek bank towards wetness. I did not end up there, because adrenaline and fear can be helpful. Actually, at least 40%-50% of the course was either prairie grass or Jeep trails covered in pine needles. |
| 2017-01-10 10:39 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by ceilidh I ride outside so rarely, except to MB, that Strava seems silly. I find the somewhat social aspect of Strava to be nice. Also, I found people that cut the course this weekend using "Fly-by" so it can be disappointing as well. As for silly, I am a firmly entrenched MAMIL. Expensive not really part of it for me. Edited by cdban66 2017-01-10 10:43 AM |
| 2017-01-10 10:40 AM in reply to: IndoIronYanti |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by IndoIronYanti 2. SEVENTEEN PAGES?!?! What, a little slow for you???? I hope all is well. |
| 2017-01-10 10:52 AM in reply to: jmkizer |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Since most every workout I do can be recorded on a Garmin (not swimming much and soon not at all again), I'll let Garmin Express take care of that, putting it into Garmin Connect and from there they will load to Training Peaks, Strava, and BT. This doesn't hurt anything. I go back and forth between using Strava and BT as the primary one. Think I've been leaning more towards Strava the past few months though. TP does have a lot of power to it, but can also be rather intimidating or overwhelming with all the metrics and stats available. I've only ever used the free version. I've tried to make it the primary one, but don't think it offers enough of what I'd like. They seem to tease with some metrics to draw you in and really want to subscribe. They are a business though. Things like lumping TSS all together regardless of sport were a bit annoying. It's not all the same per the creators of the metric. Trying to get details of intervals was frustrating. I still have the connection in place just in case something ever does become important enough for me to want a coach for. It hasn't happened so far, but it may, and there is no cost to it. Zwift sounds fun, but I don't plan to use it. I try to avoid monthly costs as much as possible as those can really eat away over a longer period of time. Another reason I don't pay for TP or Trainer Road. Another option is Golden Cheetah. I don't know how it handles coaches viewing or loading in training plans, but it's very much as powerful as TP for training analysis. I don't use that one myself, but some of the most knowledgeable people on the boards do. |
| 2017-01-10 11:21 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I wouldn't say I'm a morning person but I do prefer to get my workouts done in the AM if I can. I'm more of a "don't talk to me until 8am" kind of person - which means "don't talk to me at all at the gym or the pool" LOL Originally posted by Hot Runner What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. hahaha! I think that there are several Manatees who employ this strategy! I know that Hands does and I've seen Anne post some might early workouts as well! ^^^^^This. Times like 100000000. |
| 2017-01-10 11:31 AM in reply to: IronOx |
Expert 4952 Middle River, Maryland Silver member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by IronOx Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by jmkizer I wouldn't say I'm a morning person but I do prefer to get my workouts done in the AM if I can. I'm more of a "don't talk to me until 8am" kind of person - which means "don't talk to me at all at the gym or the pool" LOL Originally posted by Hot Runner What works for me is doing the workouts so early in the morning that I'm not really awake enough to realise what I'm doing. Then by the end of the day, I can hardly remember doing them. I generally don't end up sore, either, just really tired by about 8 PM. I don't know if this strategy works for other people, though. It does if you have cats who forcibly get you out of bed at 4:XX AM, and if you can do brainless things like hard running and trainer rides on autopilot. (Used to be able to swim like that, too, but no early pool access now.) For me, the anticipation of hard workouts is generally far worse than actually doing them. The hardest thing about a tough afternoon workout is that you (well, I) have to spend all day thinking about it. With a 5 AM workout, it's over before anything else happens and before the caffeine even hits the brain to wake it up. hahaha! I think that there are several Manatees who employ this strategy! I know that Hands does and I've seen Anne post some might early workouts as well! ^^^^^This. Times like 100000000. I've conditioned myself over the years to do what my wife tells me to do, which is exercise in the morning like she does. |
| 2017-01-10 11:37 AM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Expert 4952 Middle River, Maryland Silver member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition I think I mentioned my ongoing back issues in my profile earlier, but I'm finally going to do something more aggressive about it as I've exhausted all of the more conservative treatment options. I had an MRI on my lumbar spine last week and met with my spine surgeon this morning. We reviewed the results and I've got a bunch of stuff going on from L3 down to S1, but the worst stuff is a herniated disc at L4/L5 and a pretty big bulge at L5/S1, plus some disc degeneration from L3 down and some bone spurs here are there. This has been going on for 5 years but we've seen additional issues show up since my last MRI back in April 2015. So at least we know what we're up against. I've tried all of the conservative treatments: PT, rest, medication, injections, yoga, etc over the past several years and I've been somewhere between 90% (just some occasional soreness that could be managed) and 10% (like I am now, severe nerve pain). I went through about two years from fall 2012 to fall 2014 where I had it really well managed and even ran about 700 miles in 2014, but it's been going downhill since. There are two surgical options and my spine doc spent a long time talking to me today about them: lumbar decompression, and then lumbar decompression with fusion. He said I'm about smack in the middle between the two as to what he would recommend, and he could make an intelligent argument for either. After careful consideration (I've been researching this stuff for months...) we're going to go with the more conservative "nip and tuck" decompression vs the "rip the spine out" fusion surgery, even though long-term the fusion might provide the best results. The recovery is considerably easier from the first one, and if it doesn't work we can always do the fusion down the road if I can tolerate (mentally) an additional surgery. He really went back and forth on what to recommend, and eventually landed on what he would do himself (we have pretty similar age/activity/health profiles). Doc thinks I should see significant relief from the nerve pain, but I'll still have some of the soreness that presents from the "bone on bone" problems. Those are much more easily treated conservatively (and tolerated, for that matter, from my perspective). Surgery is two-level disc decompression. It's an outpatient surgery (hell, aren't they all now LOL?). I'll come home the same day with reduced activity for the first month until all the surgery inflammation dies down, the sutures heal, etc.. I'm taking a couple of days off work but it shouldn't be an issue since I work from home. I think I'll be able to cycle pretty quickly and swim pretty soon, too. Running will probably depend on how well the surgery goes, but probably like 3 months and a slow build up from there. Surgery is the 25th. I'm actually looking forward to it. |
| 2017-01-10 11:42 AM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by jmhpsu93 I think I mentioned my ongoing back issues in my profile earlier, but I'm finally going to do something more aggressive about it as I've exhausted all of the more conservative treatment options. I had an MRI on my lumbar spine last week and met with my spine surgeon this morning. We reviewed the results and I've got a bunch of stuff going on from L3 down to S1, but the worst stuff is a herniated disc at L4/L5 and a pretty big bulge at L5/S1, plus some disc degeneration from L3 down and some bone spurs here are there. This has been going on for 5 years but we've seen additional issues show up since my last MRI back in April 2015. So at least we know what we're up against. I've tried all of the conservative treatments: PT, rest, medication, injections, yoga, etc over the past several years and I've been somewhere between 90% (just some occasional soreness that could be managed) and 10% (like I am now, severe nerve pain). I went through about two years from fall 2012 to fall 2014 where I had it really well managed and even ran about 700 miles in 2014, but it's been going downhill since. There are two surgical options and my spine doc spent a long time talking to me today about them: lumbar decompression, and then lumbar decompression with fusion. He said I'm about smack in the middle between the two as to what he would recommend, and he could make an intelligent argument for either. After careful consideration (I've been researching this stuff for months...) we're going to go with the more conservative "nip and tuck" decompression vs the "rip the spine out" fusion surgery, even though long-term the fusion might provide the best results. The recovery is considerably easier from the first one, and if it doesn't work we can always do the fusion down the road if I can tolerate (mentally) an additional surgery. He really went back and forth on what to recommend, and eventually landed on what he would do himself (we have pretty similar age/activity/health profiles). Doc thinks I should see significant relief from the nerve pain, but I'll still have some of the soreness that presents from the "bone on bone" problems. Those are much more easily treated conservatively (and tolerated, for that matter, from my perspective). Surgery is two-level disc decompression. It's an outpatient surgery (hell, aren't they all now LOL?). I'll come home the same day with reduced activity for the first month until all the surgery inflammation dies down, the sutures heal, etc.. I'm taking a couple of days off work but it shouldn't be an issue since I work from home. I think I'll be able to cycle pretty quickly and swim pretty soon, too. Running will probably depend on how well the surgery goes, but probably like 3 months and a slow build up from there. Surgery is the 25th. I'm actually looking forward to it. Wow, that's a lot to digest! Sounds like you have been thinking about and researching it for awhile though. Hope all goes well and you recover quickly! |
| 2017-01-10 12:13 PM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Champion 14677 Bronze member | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by jmhpsu93 I think I mentioned my ongoing back issues in my profile earlier, but I'm finally going to do something more aggressive about it as I've exhausted all of the more conservative treatment options. I had an MRI on my lumbar spine last week and met with my spine surgeon this morning. We reviewed the results and I've got a bunch of stuff going on from L3 down to S1, but the worst stuff is a herniated disc at L4/L5 and a pretty big bulge at L5/S1, plus some disc degeneration from L3 down and some bone spurs here are there. This has been going on for 5 years but we've seen additional issues show up since my last MRI back in April 2015. So at least we know what we're up against. I've tried all of the conservative treatments: PT, rest, medication, injections, yoga, etc over the past several years and I've been somewhere between 90% (just some occasional soreness that could be managed) and 10% (like I am now, severe nerve pain). I went through about two years from fall 2012 to fall 2014 where I had it really well managed and even ran about 700 miles in 2014, but it's been going downhill since. There are two surgical options and my spine doc spent a long time talking to me today about them: lumbar decompression, and then lumbar decompression with fusion. He said I'm about smack in the middle between the two as to what he would recommend, and he could make an intelligent argument for either. After careful consideration (I've been researching this stuff for months...) we're going to go with the more conservative "nip and tuck" decompression vs the "rip the spine out" fusion surgery, even though long-term the fusion might provide the best results. The recovery is considerably easier from the first one, and if it doesn't work we can always do the fusion down the road if I can tolerate (mentally) an additional surgery. He really went back and forth on what to recommend, and eventually landed on what he would do himself (we have pretty similar age/activity/health profiles). Doc thinks I should see significant relief from the nerve pain, but I'll still have some of the soreness that presents from the "bone on bone" problems. Those are much more easily treated conservatively (and tolerated, for that matter, from my perspective). Surgery is two-level disc decompression. It's an outpatient surgery (hell, aren't they all now LOL?). I'll come home the same day with reduced activity for the first month until all the surgery inflammation dies down, the sutures heal, etc.. I'm taking a couple of days off work but it shouldn't be an issue since I work from home. I think I'll be able to cycle pretty quickly and swim pretty soon, too. Running will probably depend on how well the surgery goes, but probably like 3 months and a slow build up from there. Surgery is the 25th. I'm actually looking forward to it. A little different, but I had a C5-7 fusion 17 years ago. It was absolutely the best thing I ever did. After the fusion fused and the PT (where I learned to do everything the doc/PT told me to do) I have NO pain and Full ROM! Actually, I woke up from the surgery with zero pain. I hope your surgery goes as well and easlily as mine and you are back to it ASAP. |
| 2017-01-10 1:03 PM in reply to: ceilidh |
| Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Oh man I wish I were an early morning workout person. For me, the agony (haha) of getting up so early essentially ruins the rest of my day, so it's not worth it most times. There are times of the year when it's 100+ degrees outdoors in the afternoon where I have to weigh ruining my morning with an early workout or ruining my evening with a dangerously hot workout - it's a toss up at that point. Anyone else under the weather? Looking forward to feeling better, that's for sure. |
| 2017-01-10 1:13 PM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by jmhpsu93 I think I mentioned my ongoing back issues in my profile earlier, but I'm finally going to do something more aggressive about it as I've exhausted all of the more conservative treatment options. I had an MRI on my lumbar spine last week and met with my spine surgeon this morning. We reviewed the results and I've got a bunch of stuff going on from L3 down to S1, but the worst stuff is a herniated disc at L4/L5 and a pretty big bulge at L5/S1, plus some disc degeneration from L3 down and some bone spurs here are there. This has been going on for 5 years but we've seen additional issues show up since my last MRI back in April 2015. So at least we know what we're up against. I've tried all of the conservative treatments: PT, rest, medication, injections, yoga, etc over the past several years and I've been somewhere between 90% (just some occasional soreness that could be managed) and 10% (like I am now, severe nerve pain). I went through about two years from fall 2012 to fall 2014 where I had it really well managed and even ran about 700 miles in 2014, but it's been going downhill since. There are two surgical options and my spine doc spent a long time talking to me today about them: lumbar decompression, and then lumbar decompression with fusion. He said I'm about smack in the middle between the two as to what he would recommend, and he could make an intelligent argument for either. After careful consideration (I've been researching this stuff for months...) we're going to go with the more conservative "nip and tuck" decompression vs the "rip the spine out" fusion surgery, even though long-term the fusion might provide the best results. The recovery is considerably easier from the first one, and if it doesn't work we can always do the fusion down the road if I can tolerate (mentally) an additional surgery. He really went back and forth on what to recommend, and eventually landed on what he would do himself (we have pretty similar age/activity/health profiles). Doc thinks I should see significant relief from the nerve pain, but I'll still have some of the soreness that presents from the "bone on bone" problems. Those are much more easily treated conservatively (and tolerated, for that matter, from my perspective). Surgery is two-level disc decompression. It's an outpatient surgery (hell, aren't they all now LOL?). I'll come home the same day with reduced activity for the first month until all the surgery inflammation dies down, the sutures heal, etc.. I'm taking a couple of days off work but it shouldn't be an issue since I work from home. I think I'll be able to cycle pretty quickly and swim pretty soon, too. Running will probably depend on how well the surgery goes, but probably like 3 months and a slow build up from there. Surgery is the 25th. I'm actually looking forward to it. I'm happy that you are taking steps to ease your pain and hope all goes really well and exceeds your expectations. Good luck!! |
| 2017-01-10 1:33 PM in reply to: lisac957 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by lisac957 Oh man I wish I were an early morning workout person. For me, the agony (haha) of getting up so early essentially ruins the rest of my day, so it's not worth it most times. There are times of the year when it's 100+ degrees outdoors in the afternoon where I have to weigh ruining my morning with an early workout or ruining my evening with a dangerously hot workout - it's a toss up at that point. Anyone else under the weather? Looking forward to feeling better, that's for sure. Sorry you are feeling poorly. I have been dodging sick people for 2 weeks now -both at home and at work. There is a lot of yuck going around! |
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