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2013-06-26 2:43 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by ChrisM Yes it does. I like doing them (more so the bike), but it's more fun without that additional pressure of needing them. When it stops being fun, then maybe it's time to reconsider as that was the point of doing all this in the first place.Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ChrisM Tab says she enjoys me doing the HIM distance much more than IM - both from a spectator POV and how much the race beat me up. I think I agree with her, I can see it becoming my race distance of choice. Weird. My wife has said exactly the same thing. She calls it the perfect distance. Training isn't horrible. Spectating is only a few hours s. 12, recovery is easy and you can actually do stuff that night/the next day I'm sure we would all feel the same way as spouses/SO, supporters, or spectators. My GF is actually doing Cycle to the Sun (Haleakala) again this weekend. She signed up at the last minute since some of her coworkers are doing it (also their second time). They moved the race up to late June which totally took it off my race schedule (too close to Honu), but since she didn't do Honu this year she figured she would give this race another go. I won't be making the trip since it was such a last minute decision, but it would have been cool to drive SAG for them. Being in the midst of IM training again, can't say I disagree. I don't mind the long rides and runs, I just don't like the pressure of having to do them, if that makes sense |
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2013-06-26 3:02 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by brigby1 [Yes it does. I like doing them (more so the bike), but it's more fun without that additional pressure of needing them. When it stops being fun, then maybe it's time to reconsider as that was the point of doing all this in the first place. And that's what I'm trying to keep in mind while going through my IM training. I feel a lot less pressure to nail every single workout when I know that no matter what I do, I'm still going to finish in the bottom 20-30%...LOL. |
2013-06-26 3:16 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN PSA alert. For anyone that doesn't know, Dcrainmaker is giving away some serious gear on his website today. He is doing a draw every 3 hours for some crazy giveaways. 910xt, Quarq PM, Wahoo kickr..... |
2013-06-26 3:24 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Payson, AZ | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by brigby1 [Yes it does. I like doing them (more so the bike), but it's more fun without that additional pressure of needing them. When it stops being fun, then maybe it's time to reconsider as that was the point of doing all this in the first place. I agree. There is a big difference between needing to do the ride and just wanting to do the ride |
2013-06-26 3:35 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by brigby1 [Yes it does. I like doing them (more so the bike), but it's more fun without that additional pressure of needing them. When it stops being fun, then maybe it's time to reconsider as that was the point of doing all this in the first place. And that's what I'm trying to keep in mind while going through my IM training. I feel a lot less pressure to nail every single workout when I know that no matter what I do, I'm still going to finish in the bottom 20-30%...LOL. That's where I go to as well. I am 100% fine being a completer and not a competer. When I satrt worrying about volume and pace and blah blah blah I remember no one really cares if I go 10, 11, 12, 13, or even 20 hours. Or at least, what's that saying, the people that matter don't care and the people that care don't matter |
2013-06-26 3:39 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by ChrisM OK, havng saddle issues. When I got the fit, my LBS said that the rails could be an issue as the saddle was slammed forward and pressure was being put on the rails in front. It's a fairly cheap PX saddle. Fitter said it "could be an issue" The issue is the rails breaking, tho they are steel. So that, coupled with a little numbness (tho not that bad) on recent 5 hour rides tempted me to try an adamo. Tried before, didn't like it. First two times used a friend's prologue on the trainer. Seemed ok, not bad, more comfortable than before. 3d try was an attack I bought on ebay based on a slowtwitch rave review. 75 mile which, um, may not have been "smart." painful by the end. At the risk of TMI, I am getting cysts on the skin where the sitbones meet the saddle and exert the most pressure. Resolved enough to get on the trainer today, and wasn't bad, but sitting here afterards. Well, ouch. A bit lost. Should I go back to my original saddle and risk the rail issue (which I am not sure is much of an issue), and the minor numbness??? try a different adamo model (why do they have so damn many???) .... gut it out with the attack??? It doesn't seem to be a "fit" issue as I can on occasion find a comfortable spot, and it's pretty good in aero (it's sitting up and climbing that I think is the worst). But it's more of a skin reaction to the pressure issue, which I am not sure I can adapt to...... Oh, and this comes on the heels of a temporary foray from Infinit to on course nutrition to see if I can live off the course. Why the F do we (I) try all these new things training for an IM, can't leave well enough alone. Not sure if I'll be much help, but I've dealt with many of the same issues you're dealing with just recently... My fitter has this neat technology called GebioMized, which shows real-time saddle pressure analysis. The technology is fairly new and I know not a lot of fitters in the US are using it yet -- assume there's no one local to you that has it?? About a month ago, I noticed a swollen, tender spot where the saddle contacts near (but in front) of my sit bone. I tried to ignore it, but it got bad enough that I had to go to a GP and get it drained (embarrassing...). I had also had some saddle sore issues in the recent past, and though I also could occasionally find a "comfortable" spot, I knew something needed to be changed. So while it might not be a fit/positioning issue per se, it might well be that the saddle is no good for you. Do any of your local shops have a decent saddle demo selection? Maybe your fitter has a number of saddles? Would your fitter be willing to let you come back in and have him swap out a number of saddles until you find one that you like? Obviously you could do this on your own, but a) it's a lot easier to have someone doing it for you so you don't have to keep getting off to put new saddles on the bike, and b) with the dimensions of some saddles (like nose-less Adamo's versus ones with noses), it's not always as easy as just plopping it back in the same place.
Unfortunately for me, my most recent fit session was not at all a success. Turns out I seem to have a "functional" leg length discrepancy (not a real one, but one that is due to some tightness in my hip/lower back -- probably a result of my accident, and possibly what's still hindering my knee recovery), so he was not able to get me balanced out and comfortable on the saddle. Hoping that between stretching/rolling/physical therapy, I'll be able to take care of it and maybe be healthy for the first time in over a year! P.S. If you end up deciding you don't like the Attack, shoot me a PM....I might be willing to buy it from you to give it a try myself. |
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2013-06-26 3:42 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Yeah, my fitter is at the velodrome so it's not a shop, and he does not have supplies. Thinking I should probably go back to the old saddle for IM and think about changing later. Heck,. I've got two, so if one breaks I can use the other I'll let you know about the attack. |
2013-06-26 3:44 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by axteraa PSA alert. For anyone that doesn't know, Dcrainmaker is giving away some serious gear on his website today. He is doing a draw every 3 hours for some crazy giveaways. 910xt, Quarq PM, Wahoo kickr..... Thanks for the info! Missed out on the Quarq, but posted a comment for the Wahoo. |
2013-06-26 4:26 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN BTW, on the saddle, i know you're not supposed to go out and crank out 75 miles on a new saddle (especially an adamo....) but yeah. I did. Not interested in switching the saddle between trainer/outside ride every 3 days, which changes the fit I have to recreate etc.....So I either have to suck it up and ride long or go back to the old one.... leaning towards the latter and then re-evaluating in Sept, |
2013-06-26 4:46 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by ligersandtions Originally posted by axteraa PSA alert. For anyone that doesn't know, Dcrainmaker is giving away some serious gear on his website today. He is doing a draw every 3 hours for some crazy giveaways. 910xt, Quarq PM, Wahoo kickr..... Thanks for the info! Missed out on the Quarq, but posted a comment for the Wahoo. I'm in for the Wahoo as well. I think I was like the 3300th comment. I swear...if there was ever such a thing as the Triathlon Hall of Fame...Ray belongs in there as a contributor to our sport. |
2013-06-26 4:52 PM in reply to: axteraa |
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2013-06-26 5:15 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Pro 4482 NJ | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ligersandtions Originally posted by axteraa PSA alert. For anyone that doesn't know, Dcrainmaker is giving away some serious gear on his website today. He is doing a draw every 3 hours for some crazy giveaways. 910xt, Quarq PM, Wahoo kickr..... Thanks for the info! Missed out on the Quarq, but posted a comment for the Wahoo. I'm in for the Wahoo as well. I think I was like the 3300th comment. I swear...if there was ever such a thing as the Triathlon Hall of Fame...Ray belongs in there as a contributor to our sport. I'm in for the Wahoo as well. He's still going...just put up a Garmin 810/510. Your choice. Even if I don't win anything it's fun to play. His site has been one of my go-to's for all things garmin related. I didn't realize he had an Amazon link and will try to support the site there. |
2013-06-26 6:17 PM in reply to: kcarroll |
Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Huge shoutout to Xterra Wetsuit customer service. After losing 40# my XL suit collected more water than kept it out, so I was looking at buying a new one. I actually ordered one, then went and read that they have a two year warranty on seams. Mine had some seam separation under the armpit, sent it back to them for warranty replacement. They just called to tell me they are sending me a warranty replacement in the correct size, which is unbelievably a Medium-Large (yes, it was that big....) They could have just sent another XL and made me deal with it. Have to say, not sure their suits are the best out there, but they're pretty darn good, and the customer service can't be beat. |
2013-06-26 7:26 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by ligersandtions Unfortunately for me, my most recent fit session was not at all a success. Turns out I seem to have a "functional" leg length discrepancy (not a real one, but one that is due to some tightness in my hip/lower back -- probably a result of my accident, and possibly what's still hindering my knee recovery), so he was not able to get me balanced out and comfortable on the saddle. Hoping that between stretching/rolling/physical therapy, I'll be able to take care of it and maybe be healthy for the first time in over a year! P.S. If you end up deciding you don't like the Attack, shoot me a PM....I might be willing to buy it from you to give it a try myself. Glad to see you have something to work with. Had a feeling it was something about motion being off, but wasn't sure how to say it and give you somewhere to go with it. |
2013-06-26 9:17 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN I've come to a decision. I need to correct my stroke - I'm sure there are lots of things wrong with my swimming in general, but specifically I drop my lead arm when I breathe, and rather than pulling, it just sort of "floats" back and I pull with the other arm when not breathing. I kind of get away with this because I bilateral breathe, but if I was only breathing to one side, it would be even more pronounced. I know I do this, but I also know that it's really uncomfortable and awkward when I try to fix it - my ability to roll and breathe gets messed up. In other words, I've been avoiding it since it's going to be a difficult process to fix it (based on half hearted attempts in the past). But looking at race results, the swim is holding me back - I've just been too lazy to put in the effort to fix it. |
2013-06-27 5:02 AM in reply to: 0 |
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2013-06-27 5:26 AM in reply to: 0 |
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2013-06-27 5:42 AM in reply to: GoFaster |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by GoFaster I've come to a decision. I need to correct my stroke - I'm sure there are lots of things wrong with my swimming in general, but specifically I drop my lead arm when I breathe, and rather than pulling, it just sort of "floats" back and I pull with the other arm when not breathing. I kind of get away with this because I bilateral breathe, but if I was only breathing to one side, it would be even more pronounced. I know I do this, but I also know that it's really uncomfortable and awkward when I try to fix it - my ability to roll and breathe gets messed up. In other words, I've been avoiding it since it's going to be a difficult process to fix it (based on half hearted attempts in the past). But looking at race results, the swim is holding me back - I've just been too lazy to put in the effort to fix it. Personal experience on changing strokes : be very sure you are correcting the right thing. I spent months correcting something wrong, ended up probably getting .5sec/100m and losing 4 because i was so obsessed with it. It will never do major stroke correction again unless under the supervision of someone who really really knows his stuff. |
2013-06-27 6:19 AM in reply to: Fred D |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by Fred D As far as racing Ironman versus half Ironman I have a few thoughts. Ironman training tends to be somewhat onerous in my current work and family lifestyle and also tends to result in more frequent injuries. I still would like to do an Ironman in a few years from now but I must say it's nice to not have the responsibility of the long bikes especially long run. I think most of us have a romantic attachment to the idea of doing Ironman, but after doing five of them I really only feel that I've raced 1 of them decently to my potential. Never say never but as I get busier at work and get older it gets tougher to justify going to the Ironman process. My wife and I are looking into 2015 at the next potential time to consider this. What's funny is that my desire to race Kona is actually fairly minimal at this stage. It's more the desire to see if I could execute properly trained for and raced Ironman. I bet some people would doubt that I've lost interest in Kona but truly I have. I'm much more person who likes to see if they can properly prepare for train for and execute a good race plan regardless of overall ranking at this stage of the game for me. Just my thoughts. Interesting topic Personally I believe I will only do full IM if I believe I could eventually KQ. This does not mean my goal would be to KQ on the first try. I believe you need a certain amount of experience to get it right, but I wouldn't even start the process until I believe I have a legit, eventual shot at a KQ. If anything, I am tending to want to go shorter (Olympic) rather than longer |
2013-06-27 6:46 AM in reply to: marcag |
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2013-06-27 7:38 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by Fred D Originally posted by GoFasterI've come to a decision. I need to correct my stroke - I'm sure there are lots of things wrong with my swimming in general, but specifically I drop my lead arm when I breathe, and rather than pulling, it just sort of "floats" back and I pull with the other arm when not breathing. I kind of get away with this because I bilateral breathe, but if I was only breathing to one side, it would be even more pronounced.I know I do this, but I also know that it's really uncomfortable and awkward when I try to fix it - my ability to roll and breathe gets messed up. In other words, I've been avoiding it since it's going to be a difficult process to fix it (based on half hearted attempts in the past). But looking at race results, the swim is holding me back - I've just been too lazy to put in the effort to fix it. . Masters or a swim coach. X2 No experience with a coach, but masters has made a substantial difference and I can see how things will continue to improve instead of just hoping for it. For me, the sets weren't as gut-busting as so many make it sound in the main forums. Intensity matched up better with how I'd expect in the other two disciplines for a type of workout. Sets were designed better, and executed even more so. And there was some instruction from the coach on stroke and I can regularly see what decent swimmers do quite a bit. I'm swimming right with them or in the next lane over. It wasn't so much the motivation of keeping up (though that is present), but in getting more immediate feedback that my stroke was slipping ever so slightly as I'd fall behind a touch. I could see how more relaxed & stable the better swimmers were, and would try to do that myself. And would make sure to do that the entire time. Edited by brigby1 2013-06-27 7:38 AM |
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2013-06-27 7:54 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Very proud of myself this morning I put my big girl bike shorts on and did a ride that has intimidated me since I started training with (virtual) power -- the dreaded 2x20 @ FTP. It actually wasn't as bad as I was expecting. I held my FTP for both of the 20 minute intervals....legs were a little tired by the end of the intervals, but heart rate still had room to go up a bit. It was more of a mental game to not stare at the time! |
2013-06-27 8:15 AM in reply to: GoFaster |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Originally posted by GoFaster I've come to a decision. I need to correct my stroke - I'm sure there are lots of things wrong with my swimming in general, but specifically I drop my lead arm when I breathe, and rather than pulling, it just sort of "floats" back and I pull with the other arm when not breathing. I kind of get away with this because I bilateral breathe, but if I was only breathing to one side, it would be even more pronounced. I know I do this, but I also know that it's really uncomfortable and awkward when I try to fix it - my ability to roll and breathe gets messed up. In other words, I've been avoiding it since it's going to be a difficult process to fix it (based on half hearted attempts in the past). But looking at race results, the swim is holding me back - I've just been too lazy to put in the effort to fix it. Neil, Get a eyes/hands on swim coach. Master swim is another option provided they have a good leader/coach that knows stroke dynamics. I will say you can do it on your own. It may take longer and definitely more pool time. The other thing I will say is, don't give up one day it may just click. |
2013-06-27 8:22 AM in reply to: BrotherTri |
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2013-06-27 10:36 AM in reply to: Fred D |
Elite 3779 Ontario | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia Season II - OPEN Thanks for the feedback all. Unfortunately for me, Masters does not fit with my life schedule, although swimming with a Tri group (simply by chance) for a few weeks really seemed to push me along, better than I could manage on my own. A swim coach would be ideal, but I can't justify the dollars at the moment - I feel like I need a bike fit more than swim coaching. I did try to get away with bargain dollars swim coaching a couple of winters ago and got what I paid for. What I may try to do is film myself swimming again, and see what feedback I get online. It's less than ideal, but better than nothing. Besides, I haven't seen myself swimming for a while, and I feel it's good to see how you actually look compared to how you think you look. |
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