Bolt is out of this world (Page 2)

For the same reason 100 pitches is the magic cutoff for a MLB pitcher...it's a easily remembered, round number for us morons.

A couple of things:

1) It's not a current events forum.

2) Saying "Bolt is out of this world" in the thread title pretty much gives away what the thread is about *without* clicking on it. You don't have to be a genius to immediately discern, based onthe time the thread was posted and the olympic schedule that Bolt did something extraordinary in his race.

And if people are going to immediately assume Bolt is doping, why don't we immediately assume Phelps does as well?

Dude...can I see your copy of God's playbook when you're done with it?

Well I don't know about scientific proof, but i do know something about statistical analysis. Before the 60's the dream of every 100m runer was to break the 10 second mark, why?? Because it was just that a nice round number and it seemed like the almost impossible goal. If you actually take the time of every world record holder and trend it on a timeline, you will see a steady decline with the slope of the line still being fairly steep the further down the WR you go. In theory, that slope is supposed to flatten as athletes continue to get closer to the limits of what is humanly possible at 100m.

And while the 60's might not have been the high time for sports enhancement research, I think we can all agree there were experiments starting to take place. So while i cannot say with 100% certainty, I will say that you can be fairly safe in saying anyone running less than 10 seconds is doping.

 You see it all the time in cycling and track of athletes that are not even top level getting caught for doping. You mean to tell me that someone like Bolt as good as he is can actually beat an athlete that trains full time and dopes on top of that too? Nahhh I'm sorry that makes no sense he is doping also.

So there is no place in your mind for (1) the extraordinary athlete that is the total package or (2) improvements in research that have lead to significantly better training programs?

Maybe it has more to do with their single-minded approach to training. Like it or not, but when you sequester kids from a very young age and all they know is the sport they do, without the distractions of school, friends, peer pressure, TV, cell phones and myspace...is it really so hard to believe why they do so well?

I agree--I hope no doping was involved. I do think genetics definitely helps some of these guys and I'm not going to assume doping unless it's proved.  I find it interesting, in regards to the Jamaicans, that as we talk here about "their country" that while they are in fact Jamaican...I think each and everyone of them attend an American University and competed in NCAA competition....if doping is involved (and I'm not assuming it is), is American influence (cause we've had our share!) a factor? Just something to chew on...I'm just going to watch, rejoice for the winners, feel sad for the agony of defeat and work harder to be better myself (without doping of course! )

When a population the size of Kansas starts producing a rash of world class sprinters, it gives one cause to wonder where they're getting the help.

Kinda like when half of your women's gymnastics team hasn't even gone through puberty...

^^^^^this

YAMS!

 Plus with Jamacia and their whole laid back attitude I really don't see this being some form of widespread thing.  I think they are happy they are winning but if they quit winning they wouldn't care much either.

Yeah, it does.  Especially since the Jamaicans were upset a couple of Olympics ago, when their women were getting routinely beat, so they trained harder.  The woman beating them?  Marion Jones of the USA.  So, I guess we can thank her for making the Jamaicans better.  She gave them goal times to beat, so they worked to do so, not knowing for years of course they were working to beat an artificial time. 

I fully acknowledge that he is a genetic freak and no doubt trains very very hard to achieve what he does. But let us assume for a second that he is clean, that means he ran the 100m almost .2 seconds faster than Ben Johnson who we know was doping for sure, unless you believe his that somebody put dope in his drink. Not only did he smash his record, but he hardly even tried for it. If you believe that to be possible without doping then there is really no way I can argue with you since i honestly think your blinded.

Even though i believe he dopes, tell truth i can't hate him for it I would too. If i spent the better part of my life training in a sport and I knew I was the best in the world at it but couldn't prove it because the top athletes were doping, then hell I would take the drugs too. The truth is way more money and science goes into preventing detection of drugs then actually detecting. So although I think Bolt is worthy or praise, let's not fool ourselves into thinking he is clean.

So, because you would, you believe everyone else would as well?

How sad. 

the only reason nobody's accusing Phelps is because he's American...

you didn't hear anybody accusing Marion Jones when she was dominating...