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About 3 years ago, I was in a similar situation. I had symptoms indicating ovarian cancer and needed to have tests done. I didn't want to discuss this with my boss for a variety of reasons. But I did need to take the time off to have these tests done, and it was important that they were done immediately. (Ie: I couldn't afford to wait a few weeks, or months.)

My HR department said that I was only required to tell my boss information that would specifically impact my job, such as dates and times when I wouldn't be there.

I was also told that I had "earned" both sick leave time and vacation time. And it was up to me to determine when I would take these. (In other words, my boss couldn't dictate that I wasn't allowed to use this "earned benefit" to see a doctor.)

I told my boss that I was having some medical issues, and the doctors wanted me to undergo some testing.... I did schedule my appointments at the "best times" that I could. And I did come in early/stay late when I could. When letting my boss know, I'd phrase it like, "My doctor has scheduled a test for me at noon on Tuesday. I expect to be back around 2 PM."

As it turned out, I did need surgery. I went to my boss and said something like, "I have a suspected case of ovarian cancer and need surgery. I'll be out for approximately 3 1/2 weeks. The surgery is scheduled for next Wednesday. What do I need to have finished before I leave?"

Doing it that way allowed me to focus on work (rather than health) issues. And, at this time, I wasn't ready to discuss the health aspects with many people, especially not my boss.... (It wasn't until well after the surgery that I could discuss it, actually.....)

Good luck. I hope your medical issues are resolved quickly....



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wurkit_gurl - 2009-06-30 1:08 PM

Just a question about the "medical terms" thing - what I am being treated for is a "complex ovarian cyst". That is pretty obvious as to what the condition is - instead of using some random medical term that no one really knows anything about. Wouldn't that fall into the "gory details" category? Many men don't know the names of half the stuff women are afflicted with, but they know what ovaries are and what a cyst is - I feel like that's too much information right there. Thoughts? Sorry, I know this sounds dumb, but I am not comfortable discussing the state of my ovaries with my 40-something year old male boss...

(PS - yes, I get that saying it on an internet forum is odd, but since I know none of you, do not have a professional relationship with any of you, and will probably never meet any of you in my life, it's a little different)



You think that saying you are dealing with a "complex ovarian cyst" is too much information?  Really?  I think the problem here is your comfort with letting someone know what is occuring in a medical sense. 

I'm not bashing you, but *I* think it's something you need to get over.  It's biology nothing more.  You have 2 options, be upfront and let him know what is going on or have him guess.  I suggest you let him now because people are always going to guess incorrectly.

The fact that you are covering your time and doing your work says that you are NOT slacking, so there you go.  Just walk in there and say, "Bossman (insert name here), just wanted to let you know that the reason I am taking some time during the day is because I am dealing with a comlex ovarian cyst.  Just wanted to let you know.  And I'm sure you've noticed, but I have been covering my time by coming in early and staying late so my work is being done.  Just wanted to give you a heads up"

As a boss, I would appreciate this conversation WAY more than one about female problems or anything else.  We are big girls and boys and we need to have open communication.  Shyness about something like this has no place IMHO.



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wurkit_gurl - 2009-06-30 12:08 PM

Just a question about the "medical terms" thing - what I am being treated for is a "complex ovarian cyst". That is pretty obvious as to what the condition is - instead of using some random medical term that no one really knows anything about. Wouldn't that fall into the "gory details" category? Many men don't know the names of half the stuff women are afflicted with, but they know what ovaries are and what a cyst is - I feel like that's too much information right there. Thoughts? Sorry, I know this sounds dumb, but I am not comfortable discussing the state of my ovaries with my 40-something year old male boss...

(PS - yes, I get that saying it on an internet forum is odd, but since I know none of you, do not have a professional relationship with any of you, and will probably never meet any of you in my life, it's a little different)



Since you told COJ what it is maybe you should just send your boss this thread.
2009-06-30 1:21 PM
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Marvarnett - 2009-06-30 2:05 PM You think that saying you are dealing with a "complex ovarian cyst" is too much information?  Really?  I think the problem here is your comfort with letting someone know what is occuring in a medical sense. 

I'm not bashing you, but *I* think it's something you need to get over.  It's biology nothing more.  You have 2 options, be upfront and let him know what is going on or have him guess.  I suggest you let him now because people are always going to guess incorrectly.

The fact that you are covering your time and doing your work says that you are NOT slacking, so there you go.  Just walk in there and say, "Bossman (insert name here), just wanted to let you know that the reason I am taking some time during the day is because I am dealing with a comlex ovarian cyst.  Just wanted to let you know.  And I'm sure you've noticed, but I have been covering my time by coming in early and staying late so my work is being done.  Just wanted to give you a heads up"

As a boss, I would appreciate this conversation WAY more than one about female problems or anything else.  We are big girls and boys and we need to have open communication.  Shyness about something like this has no place IMHO.

Look, part of the issue here is how much information SHOULD an employer really need to know about something like this. It may very well be cancer. It might not. I sure as hell hope it's not. And if it IS, I'm only 28 years old and ovarian cancer is very, very serious, so I hope you will pardon my hesitation about sharing this information with someone of the opposite gender who's not a doc, not a friend and not a spouse - someone who couldn't possible fathom the implications of something like this. This has nothing to do with my being "shy". This has to do with how much my BOSS needs to know about the inner workings of my anatomy. I'm not having a tooth pulled here. Yes, it's just biology, but I think certain things don't really belong in the workplace - which is why I was wondering how I should best handle this, without adding to any speculation. Sharing private information can have certain legal ramifications in the workplace, so I wanted to make sure I wasn't off-base by withholding information from my supervisors.

I have decided not to tell them specifically what it is, except that if in the event, it becomes very serious, I will let them know as soon as possible, if I feel as though any details need to be released, esp. if I am required to miss a lot of work. Otherwise, they will be notified as soon as possible when I schedule appointments, and my hope is that it should be all taken care of in a couple of months tops, depending on scheduling. At this stage in the game, I am hoping everything is benign and it will be done after that. But you just never know.

Thanks to everyone for your help and insights.



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Marvarnett - 2009-06-30 1:05 PM

wurkit_gurl - 2009-06-30 1:08 PM

Just a question about the "medical terms" thing - what I am being treated for is a "complex ovarian cyst". That is pretty obvious as to what the condition is - instead of using some random medical term that no one really knows anything about. Wouldn't that fall into the "gory details" category? Many men don't know the names of half the stuff women are afflicted with, but they know what ovaries are and what a cyst is - I feel like that's too much information right there. Thoughts? Sorry, I know this sounds dumb, but I am not comfortable discussing the state of my ovaries with my 40-something year old male boss...

(PS - yes, I get that saying it on an internet forum is odd, but since I know none of you, do not have a professional relationship with any of you, and will probably never meet any of you in my life, it's a little different)



You think that saying you are dealing with a "complex ovarian cyst" is too much information?  Really?  I think the problem here is your comfort with letting someone know what is occuring in a medical sense. 

I'm not bashing you, but *I* think it's something you need to get over.  It's biology nothing more.  You have 2 options, be upfront and let him know what is going on or have him guess.  I suggest you let him now because people are always going to guess incorrectly.

The fact that you are covering your time and doing your work says that you are NOT slacking, so there you go.  Just walk in there and say, "Bossman (insert name here), just wanted to let you know that the reason I am taking some time during the day is because I am dealing with a comlex ovarian cyst.  Just wanted to let you know.  And I'm sure you've noticed, but I have been covering my time by coming in early and staying late so my work is being done.  Just wanted to give you a heads up"

As a boss, I would appreciate this conversation WAY more than one about female problems or anything else.  We are big girls and boys and we need to have open communication.  Shyness about something like this has no place IMHO.



Edited because it already looks like you made your decision. But I will say this. My wife has gone through ovarian cysts with the possibility of it being cancer, having to go to fertility treatments to conceive and we are now faced with the possibility of her having MS (Although things are looking on the positive side now, it's just a waiting game) through all this, she has always been open with her boss. Now it's a female, but during the cyst and fertility it was a male. She asked that her boss didn't share it with anyone in the workplace, but she felt that openness was the best policy and her employers were always more then accommodating. Just because your boss can't know what it's like to possibly face infertility at 28 doesn't mean he can't have compassion. If a women has never gone through what you are going through, how can she know any better then a male?

You don't have to respond. What you are going through is rough and the only people, male or female, who can know what you are facing are the ones that have been there. I think you if are open you might be surprised at the support you receive.

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Marvarnett - 2009-06-30 1:05 PM

wurkit_gurl - 2009-06-30 1:08 PM

Just a question about the "medical terms" thing - what I am being treated for is a "complex ovarian cyst". That is pretty obvious as to what the condition is - instead of using some random medical term that no one really knows anything about. Wouldn't that fall into the "gory details" category? Many men don't know the names of half the stuff women are afflicted with, but they know what ovaries are and what a cyst is - I feel like that's too much information right there. Thoughts? Sorry, I know this sounds dumb, but I am not comfortable discussing the state of my ovaries with my 40-something year old male boss...

(PS - yes, I get that saying it on an internet forum is odd, but since I know none of you, do not have a professional relationship with any of you, and will probably never meet any of you in my life, it's a little different)



You think that saying you are dealing with a "complex ovarian cyst" is too much information?  Really?  I think the problem here is your comfort with letting someone know what is occuring in a medical sense. 

I'm not bashing you, but *I* think it's something you need to get over.  It's biology nothing more.  You have 2 options, be upfront and let him know what is going on or have him guess.  I suggest you let him now because people are always going to guess incorrectly.

The fact that you are covering your time and doing your work says that you are NOT slacking, so there you go.  Just walk in there and say, "Bossman (insert name here), just wanted to let you know that the reason I am taking some time during the day is because I am dealing with a comlex ovarian cyst.  Just wanted to let you know.  And I'm sure you've noticed, but I have been covering my time by coming in early and staying late so my work is being done.  Just wanted to give you a heads up"

As a boss, I would appreciate this conversation WAY more than one about female problems or anything else.  We are big girls and boys and we need to have open communication.  Shyness about something like this has no place IMHO.



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wurkit_gurl - 2009-06-30 2:21 PM

Marvarnett - 2009-06-30 2:05 PM You think that saying you are dealing with a "complex ovarian cyst" is too much information?  Really?  I think the problem here is your comfort with letting someone know what is occuring in a medical sense. 

I'm not bashing you, but *I* think it's something you need to get over.  It's biology nothing more.  You have 2 options, be upfront and let him know what is going on or have him guess.  I suggest you let him now because people are always going to guess incorrectly.

The fact that you are covering your time and doing your work says that you are NOT slacking, so there you go.  Just walk in there and say, "Bossman (insert name here), just wanted to let you know that the reason I am taking some time during the day is because I am dealing with a comlex ovarian cyst.  Just wanted to let you know.  And I'm sure you've noticed, but I have been covering my time by coming in early and staying late so my work is being done.  Just wanted to give you a heads up"

As a boss, I would appreciate this conversation WAY more than one about female problems or anything else.  We are big girls and boys and we need to have open communication.  Shyness about something like this has no place IMHO.

Look, part of the issue here is how much information SHOULD an employer really need to know about something like this. It may very well be cancer. It might not. I sure as hell hope it's not. And if it IS, I'm only 28 years old and ovarian cancer is very, very serious, so I hope you will pardon my hesitation about sharing this information with someone of the opposite gender who's not a doc, not a friend and not a spouse - someone who couldn't possible fathom the implications of something like this. This has nothing to do with my being "shy". This has to do with how much my BOSS needs to know about the inner workings of my anatomy. I'm not having a tooth pulled here. Yes, it's just biology, but I think certain things don't really belong in the workplace - which is why I was wondering how I should best handle this, without adding to any speculation. Sharing private information can have certain legal ramifications in the workplace, so I wanted to make sure I wasn't off-base by withholding information from my supervisors.

I have decided not to tell them specifically what it is, except that if in the event, it becomes very serious, I will let them know as soon as possible, if I feel as though any details need to be released, esp. if I am required to miss a lot of work. Otherwise, they will be notified as soon as possible when I schedule appointments, and my hope is that it should be all taken care of in a couple of months tops, depending on scheduling. At this stage in the game, I am hoping everything is benign and it will be done after that. But you just never know.

Thanks to everyone for your help and insights.



About the bolded above:

Looks like you have already made your decision, and that's great.  It's your decision after all. 

But I always find it odd that people think because someone isn't in their exact situation they couldn't possibly fathom something like this.  Is it because he's male?  Because he's 40+?  Because you know for a fact that his wife, mother, sister, female BFF has never has an ovarian cyst?  Or is that an assumption on your part?

By keeping the information close to your chest, you are adding to the speculation, like it or not.  So basically, you've decided to go to your appt's, and then if the worst happens (which I hope doesn't) you'll drop a bomb shell.  Instead of letting them know and having them support you along the way.

Gotcha.  Like I said, I'm not bashing you, just trying to give you an outside perspective.  Kinda like those that give advice to parents when they don't have kids.  Not having kids does not make the advice null and void.

I wish you the best and hope it turns out to be nothing.
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I think that how D001 handled it is an excellent example to go by. 

I had a similar situation in that I had just started my job when I discovered I might need to see a chiropractor on a regular basis.  I said "I need to take care of a medical condition where I may need to make a few regular appointments over the course of the next few months.  I am mentioning this because I don't want you to think regular absences are normal for me, since we don't know each other very well yet.  I anticipate it will be taken care of within about 3-4 months.  I will use the sick time I have earned for time I am way from the office and will be as accommodating as possible to take care of any pressing work situations." 

As I manager I would be thrilled to hear this, because frankly I would be worried the employee was interviewing for another position.  I think they will be humbled enough by your candor that they will be very nice about it.

I think following up with an e-mail is also a great idea.  You can frame it as a thank you.

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maggyruth - 2009-06-30 10:09 AM I would suggest talking to an HR person and looking into intermittent FMLA.  It's designed to cover situations like yours where there is a medical condition that requires intermittent (as opposed to continual...ie a hospital stay) absence from work.  I know you are making up the time, but filing for it would not hurt.  You get up to 12 weeks/year.


I would also. You can get your surgery and the days you need to deal with appointments or whatever "protected" thru FMLA.

When I had my knee surgery I had it protected. I was only out for 3 days, but it was a protectable (is that a word?) condition.

You do have to apply for this benefit, though.

Edited to add: HR people can correct me if I'm wrong, but due to privacy laws, it's my understanding that employers are not ENTITLED to know anything -- at all -- about your medical condition/history. I'd go right to HR and deal with someone there that knows the laws for your particular state. In Illinois, if I call in sick, my supervisor is not ALLOWED to ask me what's wrong. If I'm sick for more than 3 days, I need to have a doctor's note to get me back into work, but I deal with HR directly. Not my supervisor.

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I agree with Marvarnett.  It's a disease.  Nothing to be ashamed off. 
Say if you break your collar bone and had to call in to tell your boss you wouldn't be able to come to work would be be so vague as well? 
I bet your office would not pester you if you said something along the line of what Marvarnett wrote a few posts ago. 

In the end, it's your decision of what (not) to say.  Good luck, and hope it's not cancer. 

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I had to have a plastic surgeon remove a severely dysplastic (spelling?) mole from my girlie parts.  I work in an extremely male dominated profession...I'm a freaking MILITARY PILOT for crying out loud.  Do you REALLY think I wanted them to know what I was having surgery for?  I never would have heard the end of it!

But in order for my supervisor to have my back, he had to know the details.  If I just said I was having a mole removed he would not have been able to defend me to his bosses because they would have said, "and why can't that wait?"

Okay, yes...can you maybe say, "it needs to be taken care of now" and that might be the end of it?  Maybe.  But as others have pointed out...being secretive about it does start to look like you are hiding something.  And if you are concerned about your job, the last thing you want to do is appear secretive like you are hiding something.  That's the whole point.

Granted, I can't get fired from my job...but they can (and do) tell me what to do ALL THE TIME.  They expect me to schedule my appointments around their whims and bend over backwards to make it work FOR THEM.

In this case I needed it to work for ME because it was a very sticky situation.  But if I'm asking someone to go to bat for me and defend my multiple appointments, they need to know WHY.  Honesty goes a LONG way in my opinion.  I agree with Marvarnett...it's biology, it's an illness...they should be grown up enough to handle that.  If them knowing more of the nature of the situation gets my health taken care of and keeps them from labeling me a slacker for not being around, then I would tell them the nature of the situation.  Perception is 99% of reality.  And having your immediate supervisor going to bat for you is HUGE.  But he can't go to bat for you if he doesn't know what is going on.


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jldicarlo - 2009-06-30 2:50 PM I had to have a plastic surgeon remove a severely dysplastic (spelling?) mole from my girlie parts.  I work in an extremely male dominated profession...I'm a freaking MILITARY PILOT for crying out loud.  Do you REALLY think I wanted them to know what I was having surgery for?  I never would have heard the end of it!

But in order for my supervisor to have my back, he had to know the details.  If I just said I was having a mole removed he would not have been able to defend me to his bosses because they would have said, "and why can't that wait?"

Okay, yes...can you maybe say, "it needs to be taken care of now" and that might be the end of it?  Maybe.  But as others have pointed out...being secretive about it does start to look like you are hiding something.  And if you are concerned about your job, the last thing you want to do is appear secretive like you are hiding something.  That's the whole point.

Granted, I can't get fired from my job...but they can (and do) tell me what to do ALL THE TIME.  They expect me to schedule my appointments around their whims and bend over backwards to make it work FOR THEM.

In this case I needed it to work for ME because it was a very sticky situation.  But if I'm asking someone to go to bat for me and defend my multiple appointments, they need to know WHY.  Honesty goes a LONG way in my opinion.  I agree with Marvarnett...it's biology, it's an illness...they should be grown up enough to handle that.  If them knowing more of the nature of the situation gets my health taken care of and keeps them from labeling me a slacker for not being around, then I would tell them the nature of the situation.  Perception is 99% of reality.  And having your immediate supervisor going to bat for you is HUGE.  But he can't go to bat for you if he doesn't know what is going on.


The military is an entirely different animal from just a random company. There are privacy laws that apply to those of us in the civilian world that might not apply to the military. My job cannot dictate my every move... unless I'm at work... so it's a little different.

I don't think she's obligated to say anything, and if she'd like to have the matter handled confidentially, I believe she's entirely entitled to that confidentiality.

Some things just don't need to be blasted all over the workplace. Especially if the employee is sensitive about it in the first place. It's the employee's option to determine if he/she wishes to share medical information. It's not the employer's right to be informed of specifics.
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I am mentioning this because I don't want you to think regular absences are normal for me, since we don't know each other very well yet. 


Good statement.

However, this doesn't address the issue she noted about how they asked her to change an appointment to fit their needs.  Hence why they need to know the "serious nature" so that if you say you have an appointment because it needs to get take care of NOW they will understand that NO she can't change the appointments all the time to fit their whims.
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Whizzzzz - 2009-06-30 2:59 PM
jldicarlo - 2009-06-30 2:50 PM I had to have a plastic surgeon remove a severely dysplastic (spelling?) mole from my girlie parts.  I work in an extremely male dominated profession...I'm a freaking MILITARY PILOT for crying out loud.  Do you REALLY think I wanted them to know what I was having surgery for?  I never would have heard the end of it!

But in order for my supervisor to have my back, he had to know the details.  If I just said I was having a mole removed he would not have been able to defend me to his bosses because they would have said, "and why can't that wait?"

Okay, yes...can you maybe say, "it needs to be taken care of now" and that might be the end of it?  Maybe.  But as others have pointed out...being secretive about it does start to look like you are hiding something.  And if you are concerned about your job, the last thing you want to do is appear secretive like you are hiding something.  That's the whole point.

Granted, I can't get fired from my job...but they can (and do) tell me what to do ALL THE TIME.  They expect me to schedule my appointments around their whims and bend over backwards to make it work FOR THEM.

In this case I needed it to work for ME because it was a very sticky situation.  But if I'm asking someone to go to bat for me and defend my multiple appointments, they need to know WHY.  Honesty goes a LONG way in my opinion.  I agree with Marvarnett...it's biology, it's an illness...they should be grown up enough to handle that.  If them knowing more of the nature of the situation gets my health taken care of and keeps them from labeling me a slacker for not being around, then I would tell them the nature of the situation.  Perception is 99% of reality.  And having your immediate supervisor going to bat for you is HUGE.  But he can't go to bat for you if he doesn't know what is going on.


The military is an entirely different animal from just a random company. There are privacy laws that apply to those of us in the civilian world that might not apply to the military. My job cannot dictate my every move... unless I'm at work... so it's a little different.

I don't think she's obligated to say anything, and if she'd like to have the matter handled confidentially, I believe she's entirely entitled to that confidentiality.

Some things just don't need to be blasted all over the workplace. Especially if the employee is sensitive about it in the first place. It's the employee's option to determine if he/she wishes to share medical information. It's not the employer's right to be informed of specifics.


Military/civilian/whatever.  If someone is working for me and they are not perceived as performing to standards and they are not honest enough to share with me even at least vaguely why ("sensitive medical issue" would be enough for me), then I don't have any ammo to go to bat for them if I have to.  I won't stake my reputation on someone else unless I can back it up.  I don't need to tell my leadership the details, but if I'm going to fight for someone I had better know the details.

Bottom line, the OP is worried about how her absences will be PERCEIVED and that her work seems to think she should rearrange her medical appointments to suit their needs.  IMHO it's time to offer up at LEAST a little more information to her supervisor if she wants/expects support.

Edited to add: believe it or not there are privacy protectors in place in the military too...I don't have to tell anyone why I'm seeing a doctor either.  I did in this case for the EXACT reason stated above...if I didn't have my supervisor's support it was 1. Going to look bad and 2. The squadron was going to tell me to move my appointment.  The easy solution was to tell my supervisor what was going on so he could tell my bosses that it really was important and that they needed to back me up on this one.  That is what supervisors are for...

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Glad you made your decision! As a sort of disclaimer for my previous statement regarding a docs note...I work in the healthcare field and am regularly around immunocomprimised patients. Because of this I have to make sure that when I am at work I will not pass something on to them (In this case think of it like AIDS where people do not typically die of AIDS but instead because they get a simple cold or infection and have no immune system to fight it off.) So if I was going to be gone a lot for random medical appointments I have to let my superviser know why and I have to have a doctors note basically saying what I am getting tested for is not contagious and I am ok to be at work. I realize after reading through some more of this thread your situation is a lot different. Heck working in Healthcare I know for a fact that details are important to my bosses and to an extent the more they know the better because they will be able to plan coverage that way. Good luck with the Cysts, they are nothing to wait around on.
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Your employer does not need to know the nature of your medical condition. A medical excuse is all that is required. I would tell them it is a female issue and leave it at that. period.

To the poster who said it is like a broken collar bone, would you describe medical problems with your penis to an all female office? May be you would, but it is not necessary.

And to those who said get a note from the doctor, most doctors are very aware of HIPA and will not list your detailed info in a note.

I would tell your supervisor that you have the upcoming appointments that you are aware of and that further follow on may be required. These appointments are medically necessary and let him know you are willing to do what is required to do what is necessary to make up the time and be available in crisis situations at the office. period. Do not elaborate.

 

 



2009-06-30 6:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Sharing Medical Issues with Employer?

The general default should be that you inform your supervisor of the situation and document it.. if they don't know they'll just assume that you are being slack..

2009-06-30 8:02 PM
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As a supervisor who's dealt with very similar situations, be very careful about presenting yourself in a non-adversarial way.

I have a former employee who chose to take a belligerent stance regarding some issues, and gave little to no notice when they were going to be out of the office.  They are now a 'former' employee.

I have another employee who had to deal with some rather serious issues, who came and talked to me very openly and made it clear they willing to be as flexible as they could be, gave as much advance notice as possible so projects could be reallocated and work continue.  I've gone to bat for them several times, and have gone out of my way to be as accommodating as possible.

No, you have no legal obligation to provide any details, but if *you* turn this into an adversarial relationship with your direct supervisor, then you will reap what you sow.

 



Edited by coredump 2009-06-30 8:03 PM
2009-06-30 8:42 PM
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jmk-brooklyn - 2009-06-30 12:26 PM I strongly disagree with the suggestion that you should tell your boss specifically what’s wrong with you. In the first place, he’s not entitled to know, and, in the second place, if he’s smart, he won’t want to know. Neither is it necessary to get a letter from a doctor unless your employer specifically requests it, and, again, if they’re smart, they won’t. You should explain that you are undergoing treatment for a medical condition that may require you to miss work occasionally, but that you will make every effort to schedule appointments before or after work or during lunch hours. If there is the possibility of having to miss extended time, like for surgery or whatever, you should be up front about the possibility, but say that it’s not a sure thing at this point. If anyone asks you specifics, you’re under no obligation to reveal them. I would just say that you’d rather not discuss it. You can tell them that it’s neither contagious or life-threatening, if that will put them more at ease. If you want to be more specific with HR, you can, but, again, it’s not necessary. Personally, If an employee comes to me and starts to go into detail about their medical condition, I always shut them down immediately. I don’t need to know and I don’t want to know the specific condition or prognosis in order to help them. You should be sure you understand fully their policies about sick days and short-term disability insurance, which you’d be eligible for if you are out of work for an extended amount of time (usually between 7 and 180 days). Unless you’re missing a ton of work and your employer has reason to think that you’re making it up, there’s no reason to volunteer any confidential medical information. You’re under NO obligation to reveal your medical condition to anyone, but once you volunteer the information to anyone outside of HR, it’s no longer private.


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Labor laws and privacy laws are on your side and this is all you need to tell your boss.  Also don't feel like you need to disclose anything specific to HR, if they know their job they aren't going to want to know unless you need to fill out disability leave request or similar.  I am a member rights advocate for me union and this is the advice given to any member undergoing a medical condition, and smart bosses will be happy with that information and not as for more.  Just make sure to check in with them if treatment changes happen where you are going to miss several days, but you don't need to be specific.  Also protect yourself by logging any conversations or emails you send to your boss regarding your medical issues. Union work makes me paranoid about issues like this.
2009-06-30 11:22 PM
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I hope everything turns out ok, obviously you first then the job. Micromanaging bosses are horrible.
2009-07-01 2:58 AM
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Aw wurkit, that just SUCKS! I hope it's nothing more than a stupid little cyst making trouble for you. Got my fingers crossed for you.

As for sharing, I am so right there with you. Anyone who reads my blog on here knows I am dealing with a major ickiness. Long term. Rest of my life. Job compromising. And I absolutely 100% refuse to tell my workplace. I had to tell HR that I was "facing serious medical issues" in order for them to let me have ONE sick day for the entire rest of the year. I was very upset about having to disclose that much, but given that I will likely have a spinal tap at some point which will potentially require me being flat on my back for three days, I HAD to fight for that sick day. They wouldn't even let me have two sick days, they forced me to lengthen my vacation and take a day I didn't want to take rather than have a floating sick day. Trust me, I know about disgusting work practices.

I hope you can figure out the best way to phrase this to your boss right now, and keep the lines of communication as open as you can. Good luck - and don't underestimate the power of support. It comes from the most unlikely places.


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